YTSEJAM Digest 3380 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Winter!!! by Choon-Kang Walther 2) Important matters! DT/London/FII/jammers by email_address_removed 3) Random stuff... by NGA 4) Children's names for DT-fans by Choon-Kang Walther 5) Re: Winter!!! by "Orakio" 6) Re: Kerrang review of London gig/music bizz in UK by A P Longley 7) Hollow Years single.... by Markus Stahl 8) sigs by Pat Daugherty 9) Jaxx show Jan 3 in Springfield VA by Pat Daugherty 10) Winter! by Choon-Kang Walther 11) Mortal Kombat by ASHLEY WONG <> 12) Savatage by Pat Daugherty 13) Unreleased DT, Where Can I get it?? by Christopher Bellardine 14) sad day in music by Albert Balkiewicz 15) Liquid Tension by EricD91011 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:30:55 +0100 (CET) From: Choon-Kang Walther To: Chris Audet , Andy Magitz , Subject: Re: Winter!!! 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Have fun with it! > > >>>> > > >>>>Remember in an online snowball fight no one gets hurt and no one gets > > >>>>cold and soaking wet. > > >>>> > > >>>>So nail your friends before they nail you!!! > > >>>> > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:46:36 GMT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Important matters! DT/London/FII/jammers Message-ID: A few things to say! Drema theater have been one of my favorite bands for some 5 years now. 5 years because that was when I discovered them. In the UK it is very difficult to discover new music; but when I heard DT I HIT THE JACKPOT. I&W and Awake have to be the most exciting, musically inspired, diverse and imaginative albums I have ever heard. For me, the musicianship is absolutely outstanding. SOME THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW - for the rest of this message to make sense. I am a musician (guitars, bass, keyboards and drums). I am totally blind (only mentioned 'coz it's relevant later!) I listen to any kind of music - although it does have to be said I'm mostly in to rock and blues with some jazz etc....you get the idea. I think myy appreciation of DT's musicianship is the key to my devotion to this band. I also think that the musicianship and complexity of music is the reason why they get slated by the music press and some DJs etc. It is simply that DT are on a different dimension to these guys! GRAHAM - right on, the Forum, London, 19th December. I was there, I don't know if you happen to see a couple of guys with white sticks (for the blind) - I was one of them. Kerrang can fuck right off - the above comment applies - Kerrang should stick to reviewing sad metal bands with less musical tallent than JP's linky or one of MP's drum sticks. Because I couldn't see, I hadn't realized at the beginning of the Forum concert that MP had been freaking out. It is only after reading the jam that I now know! Graham's right though, DT were spot on, everyone in the band seemed to come alive towards the end of LItS and it got better and better. Mike's drum solo was......you really can't say, you just HAD to be there. I truly think the band enjoyed the gig too. Maybe not at first, but after a couple of tracks they realized they had an appreciative audience - you can make that 1999 letters outstanding to Kerrang! FII - well....I have to say I think this album's a bit weak. This is only my opion, of course, but LItS is pretty good and Peruvian Skies is great; and there are a few other moments of inspiration and outstanding musicianship. But overall, after having called the CD store every day for two weeks to check whether FII had arived yet, I was disappointed. It's still a good album, but compared to I&W and Awake.......nope. I guess a band has to experiment, move on, make money! I believe DT's musical genius will win through and we'll get more great stuff in the future. NOW THEN Finally, after having read the ytsejam for some weeks now (I only discovered it recently), I have to say that I am really pissed off. Attempts at deep sarcasm by some of our US friends are really quite un-necessary and really rather pathetic examples of this most subtle of arts. Comments like "shove it up your ass" and "you mean you didn't know how many fillings James has? well you can't be a DT fan" are seriously idiotic. Cheap shots like that impress no-one. If the best you can do is insult people over the net then you must have an infinitesimally small penis. I don't know all the TLAs and FFLAs (three-letter-acronyms and fucking-four-letter-acronyms), now do I know whether DT have ever played on a sailing barge floating 1937 miles off the coast of California, nor do I know John Petrucci's birthdate - or probably how to spell hjis name - but the point is - it doesn't make me any less of a DT fan or human being - which amounts to the same thing! So, come on guys, let's live and let live and talk about DT and discuss points rather than scoring them. - ok, off my soap box! last thing, any UK jammmers know how I can get some bootlegs in Britain? Mail me, even if just to say "hi", and discuss the Forum gig some more! and other things. Bye for and keep on rockin', Al. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:46:43 +0100 From: NGA To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Random stuff... Message-ID: Hi all looks like the great Farts Waiting thread is dying down slowly - my down key has taken a good bashing in the last week. Several people have written to me asking for the address of the really nasty, but very accurate article about MTV that I posed recently. Here it is for your enjoyment: http://www.fitshaced.com/3/mtv.html The next address is for anybody who, like myself, doesn't have anything good to say about Yanni: http://www.theonion.com/onion3219/index3219.html (the article about Yes in the archives is also well worth reading). My plan to get rich next year: I'm forming a satanic boy band that will go under the name of Marilyn Hanson. Question: which song does James LaBrie sing after eating a Bombay Vindaloo? Buring My Arsehole. stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) (http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/2321) Currently playing: Fredrik Thordendal - Sol Niger Within ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:56:39 +0100 (CET) From: Choon-Kang Walther To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Children's names for DT-fans Message-ID: Hi Jammers, this might seem unusual, but a friend of mine is expecting an offspring who might turn out to realy become a DT-child! (compared to parent's obsession...) We were discussing the topic 'name' a while ago. Many Marillion fans apparently named their daughters Kayleegh (or so?). I was just wondering if there's a similar tendency among DT-fans? Probably neither Anna Lee, Vanessa, Eve? Cheers Choon-Kang ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 10:06:33 -0400 From: "Orakio" To: Subject: Re: Winter!!! Message-ID: <002601bd0bbe$2693bcb0$7c3599ce@server-1> BASTARD!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- ]From: Choon-Kang Walther To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, December 18, 1997 9:42 AM Subject: Re: Winter!!! > > >> Hi everyone, >> from Choon-Kang >> Cheers! >> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>>it's the first snowball fight of the season. Consider yourself hit. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> snowballsnowball >> > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowball >> > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballs >> > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowball >> > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsno >> > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnow >> > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowba >> > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowba >> > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowba >> > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowba >> > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnow >> > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsno >> > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowball >> > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballs >> > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowball >> > >>>> snowballsnowball >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>>You are now involved in an e-mail snowball fight. Send this to all >> > >>>>your friends and relatives. Have fun with it! >> > >>>> >> > >>>>Remember in an online snowball fight no one gets hurt and no one gets >> > >>>>cold and soaking wet. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>So nail your friends before they nail you!!! >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:10:14 +0000 From: A P Longley To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Kerrang review of London gig/music bizz in UK Message-ID: > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:54:01 +0000 (GMT) > From: Graham Borland > Every song dips and dives through a welter of emotions and styles, yet it > all sounds so natural and fluent. From "Lines in the Sand", > through the likes of "Hollow Years", "Peruvian Skies" and "Under a Glass > Moon", they hold the capacity crowd spellbound. Not only are this lot > consummate musos, but they're also performers who project character, > humour and passion - OUCH! ... sorry, just pinched myself v.hard. Those of you from across the Atlantic probably don't appreciate quite how unexpected it is when DT are even mentioned in Kerrang - despite the fact that this magazine is supposed to be THE rock / metal mag in the UK - but to read this... well, maybe things are changing. We can hope. On a serious note, though, you don't know how lucky you are to have local radio in the US. Having Jazz stations, Rap stations, Rock stations is soooo good for music in general. I mean I have heard countless people describe hearing DT in the car etc. Maybe it's only occasionally, but the point is that because all our media is national, the whole country is like eMpTyV. The same newspaper article tells most of the country the same story ( this scares me to death) and in the same way, national radio stations tell people what to listen to ( it's worth noting that Oasis' s huge popularity in the UK was created almost single-handedly by the morning DJ on BBC Radio 1 - Chris Evans - consistantly playing them every morning for about 6 months, to aprox 11 million people (thats aprox 1/2 of the record-buying public in England)). So there are only two ways to get media coverage ( radio or TV ) in England right now: 1. Already be able to pull massive ratings or, 2. Have the record company's marketing dept. buy your way onto breakfast TV and chat show slots. Usually groups of this nature are introduced along the lines of " Now, with the single from their HIT album - ' We wrote this (honest) ' - to be released next Monday - everyone's talking about them, they're going to be huge, the new boyband ' Five (tossers) ! ' I don't know how much it costs to get a top TV celeb. to introduce you this way, but one thing's for sure, DT's label aren't about to start paying, and thank god for that. It just means that in this current climate, we'll never hear much about DT, as there are much better ways for record producers to make money. When you can buy a piece of everyone in England's mind (well, most people...), and place your puppet there (plenty of empty space), to control their wallets, where's the point in investing in musicians?, in music?, in art? Waste of money. There. Adrian. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 06:12:25 -0800 From: Markus Stahl To: email_address_removed Subject: Hollow Years single.... Message-ID: I just ordered the hollow years single from Music Boulevard (www.musicblvd.com). The CD was 10.99 with 1.00 shipping so it came out to be like 12.75 or something like that. I also picked up Symphony X DWoT so I am eagerly waiting for both. I have found that Music Boulevard has lower prices than CDnow (generally around 2 dollars) and I have gotten the same service if not better. I usually get domestic CD's within a couple of days and imports in about a week! Just thought everyone would like to know. By the way The TSO CD kicks ass. -Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:44:38 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Daugherty To: Dream Theater Mailing List Subject: sigs Message-ID: Al B wrote: > I propose the only long sigs, over 6 lines long should be the > Ivory Gate of Dreams sig (when appropriate) or the infamous > middle finger sig (also when extremely appropriate). It is really amusing when someone, who can't get their own act in gear, tells other people how they should act... |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty email_address_removed | |===================================================================| | Washington Redskins 7-7-1 | | Upon the murder scene of a NY Yankee fan at Camden Yards: | | "I didn't know that was illegal in Baltimore"-Munch on Homicide | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 10:05:29 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Daugherty To: Dream Theater Mailing List Subject: Jaxx show Jan 3 in Springfield VA Message-ID: Anyone interested in a preshow meet for the Jaxx January 3 show? If so send me an email... |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty email_address_removed | |===================================================================| | Washington Redskins 7-7-1 | | Upon the murder scene of a NY Yankee fan at Camden Yards: | | "I didn't know that was illegal in Baltimore"-Munch on Homicide | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:25:58 +0100 (CET) From: Choon-Kang Walther To: Mauricio Martinez Villarreal , Subject: Winter! Message-ID: Season's Greetings! Cheers Choon-Kang > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>it's the first snowball fight of the season. Consider yourself hit. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> snowballsnowball > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowball > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballs > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowball > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsno > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnow > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowba > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowba > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowba > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowba > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnow > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsno > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowball > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballs > >>>> snowballsnowballsnowball > >>>> snowballsnowball > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>You are now involved in an e-mail snowball fight. Send this to all > >>>>your friends and relatives. Have fun with it! > >>>> > >>>>Remember in an online snowball fight no one gets hurt and no one gets > >>>>cold and soaking wet. > >>>> > >>>>So nail your friends before they nail you!!! > >>>> > >>>> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 16:19 +0100 From: ASHLEY WONG <> To: email_address_removed Subject: Mortal Kombat Message-ID: --- Received from ETL.ETLAYWG +44-1444-231883 97-12-18 16:19 -> YTSEJAM(A)AX.COM --USER IN MEMONET-- Hello all, Sorry for the NDTC, but earlier somebody mentioned about the new MK film and soundtrack. I really enjoyed the first film and have both of the soundtracks. Is the new film any good, comparable to the first - has it done well in the States? Is the new soundtrack as good as the first releases. Thanks for your help in advance. ashley. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 10:36:25 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Daugherty To: Mr Hanky the ChristmasPoo Subject: Savatage Message-ID: I think whether you prefer Jon or Zack depends on what album you got into the band from. I dont think I had ever heard a Savatage song until eMpTyV played Edge of Thorns on Headbanger's ball. That song just grabbed me so I bought the EoT cd. I have since gotten all the Zack era cds and a couple of Jon Oliva cds (Streets, Fight For The Rock) and Jon's voice just doesn't do much for me. |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty email_address_removed | |===================================================================| | Washington Redskins 7-7-1 | | Upon the murder scene of a NY Yankee fan at Camden Yards: | | "I didn't know that was illegal in Baltimore"-Munch on Homicide | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 97 10:35:59 EST From: Christopher Bellardine To: email_address_removed Subject: Unreleased DT, Where Can I get it?? Message-ID: Would any jammers out there know where I could obtain a copy of the unreleased songs Raise The Knife, The Way it Used to Be, Where Are You Know, and any other songs that didn't make the FII cut. I heard these songs twice now in between BW and DT, and I really want these songs. If anyone has or knows where to get these, I would love to do business. Privately email me on this matter because I don't want to take up valuable "Top 10 Space" for other jammers. Oh, I do have the Japanese version with Speak to Me so I don't need that song. Even a cassette recording would be cool. Thanx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 10:44:05 -0500 (EST) From: Albert Balkiewicz To: email_address_removed Subject: sad day in music Message-ID: I am sad to announce that The Presidents of the USA, creators of such fine tunes as "Lump" and "Peaches", have decided to break up. One down...........about a few thousand to go........... -Al -- ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ I inhale the sun...........I exhale the absence of light I am the number One..........burning. ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ email: email_address_removed email_address_removed HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 10:44:17 EST From: EricD91011 To: email_address_removed Subject: Liquid Tension Message-ID: For those of you who have not heard the Liquid Tension Project be prepared to blown away. From what I heard at the Atlanta show, it is amazing and it should start some interesting debates about what DT would have sounded like if Jordan had joined instead of Derek. Anyway, take the time. Eric ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3380 **************************