YTSEJAM Digest 3305 Today's Topics: 1) Re: TSO by Jay Omega 2) Re: Bad DT review, my take : ) by email_address_removed 3) Re: check it out if you have the chance by email_address_removed (Ernesto Schnack) 4) TSO's "Christmas Eve and Other Stories" by Phil Carter 5) Re: TSO's "Christmas Eve and Other Stories" by Jay Omega 6) The Dream Theater by email_address_removed 7) Re: TSO's "Christmas Eve and Other Stories" by Cappy 8) New way to get DT on MTV by "Chung Ng" 9) Realaudio concert by Michael Bahr 10) /me is confused... by email_address_removed 11) For Sale: 80's/90's Rock/Metal CD's and DT: Home Sweet Home CD by Tim Lodge 12) DT fan club question by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." 13) Re: Realaudio concert by Rogerio Brito 14) Re: /me is confused... by Rogerio Brito 15) Cygnus X-I by Len Berkoski 16) 2 new CD's by Deedlit 17) Sod Foy's taste - go for his job by "Agar, Jonathan (CAP, EURO)" 18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3304 by "Jeremy C. Hallum" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 20:39:19 -0600 (CST) From: Jay Omega To: Just Words Subject: Re: TSO Message-ID: On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Rogerio Brito wrote: > Also, I've noticed that some of these songs aren't common here in > Brazil (maybe they are folk/popular songs from the US), but what is the > name of the 8th song? I have heard it before I heard this CD and don't > believe the name of this song is "Sarajevo 12/24" as it is listed in the > tracklist. It's called "Sarajevo 12/24" because it also appears on Savatage's album Dead Winter Dead. As for what song it is, the first 0:55 is "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen," the rest is (approximately) the "Carol of the Bells". --Jay "and the best fucking rendition of CotB ever, IMnsHO" Omega --NP: Cairo - s/t ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 19:50:57 -0700 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Bad DT review, my take : ) Message-ID: My Guess: > Analogy 3: The guy has a chain connecting his belt loop to his wallet. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 22:01:56 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Ernesto Schnack) To: Subject: Re: check it out if you have the chance Message-ID: > Capeman". Performing in it are three of the top Latin American singers out > there: Ruben Blades (which some of you must have seen in quite a few > movies, including Predator 2), Yeah, and he's also panamanian...even ran for president onece:) I'm not much for one-liners, but i juss had to say that. Ern ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 22:43:34 -0500 From: Phil Carter To: Keeper of the Seven Ytses Subject: TSO's "Christmas Eve and Other Stories" Message-ID: Greetings ye 'jamanoids... Rogerio, raving about Trans-Siberian Orchestra's "Christmas Eve and Other Stories," inquired: > Also, I've noticed that some of these songs aren't common here in >Brazil (maybe they are folk/popular songs from the US), but what is the >name of the 8th song? I have heard it before I heard this CD and don't >believe the name of this song is "Sarajevo 12/24" as it is listed in the >tracklist. "Sarajevo 12/24" first showed on Savatage's "Dead Winter Dead," but I don't think that's what you meant. :) The Christmas carol that it's based on is called "Carol of the Bells." It's a really cool song which has seen lots of remakes over the years; one of the more interesting ones (aside from TSO's of course) is by Chip Davis' Mannheim Steamroller. Very cool to see TSO advertised on TV. Anybody wanna place bets on how long it'll take before it sells out this year? :) Cheers, Phil ========================================================= Phil Carter -- email_address_removed http://www.negia.net/~carter "Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired, gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals Currently playing: Yanni -- "Chameleon Days" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 22:39:45 -0600 (CST) From: Jay Omega To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: TSO's "Christmas Eve and Other Stories" Message-ID: > Very cool to see TSO advertised on TV. Anybody wanna place bets on how long > it'll take before it sells out this year? :) To perhaps stomp on a rumor before it gets started, if you're refering to my 'Target ad' post, I meant the little flyer that comes with your Sunday newspaper, not a TV ad. If you know about a TV ad from elsewhere, ignore this message. --Jay "Public Service Announcement" Omega --NP: Live - Secret Samadhi ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:40:50 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: The Dream Theater Message-ID: Hey everybody, go check out my DT web site...it made it on the Lifting Shadows Ring. Take the Dream Theater Quiz and see if you have what it takes... [eriC] http://members.aol.com/MaxArbot/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 22:56:50 -0600 From: Cappy To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: TSO's "Christmas Eve and Other Stories" Message-ID: On Sun, Nov 30, 1997 at 08:55:17PM -0800, Jay Omega wrote: > > > > Very cool to see TSO advertised on TV. Anybody wanna place bets on how long > > it'll take before it sells out this year? :) > > To perhaps stomp on a rumor before it gets started, if you're refering to > my 'Target ad' post, I meant the little flyer that comes with your Sunday > newspaper, not a TV ad. Well, I haven't seen it on TV, but they've been advertising TSO on the radio here in Chicago. :) -- Mike Jones, email_address_removed __________ Cappy _________ email_address_removed Parallels - Official Fates Warning Mailing List | Progressive Metal Hub http://www.progmetal.org/fateswarning | http://www.progmetal.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 97 1:21:34 EST From: "Chung Ng" To: Subject: New way to get DT on MTV Message-ID: I just thought of a new way to get Dream Theater talked about on MTV. Matt Pinfield (the guy who looks like Uncle Fester and hosts 120 Minutes) has this segment where he takes questions from either mail, fax or the internet. He professes to know everything about rock. Maybe we can stump him with some DT trivia and get some discussion about DT going! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 22:43:40 -0700 From: Michael Bahr To: email_address_removed Subject: Realaudio concert Message-ID: Anyone who received/recorded the Realaudio concert, whether into DAT or cassette (DAT obviously preferred)... please get in touch with me if you have the time, as I'd like to make you an offer for your master tape (one that would certainly involve you getting it back as well). I just got back to reality after a blissful 1st anniversary weekend with Melissa. And holy shit, do I ever have a lot of mail to answer. I imagine it will all clear up soon enough. Queensryche: Visions of Another Time is ready to ship; I'm just awaiting the liners. Other than that, it's locked and loaded. I've got about 30 CDs of it already done. I think everyone will really dig this one. With the exception of the tape side/section changes, each track progresses seamlessly into the next, which is something I can do with music now that I have a sufficiently good computer to do it with. I shall continue to "properly" master these CDs to the best of my ability in the future. Yes, this does involve recording the entire thing onto an 800-meg WAV file and manually segmenting it (AECC won't cut it), and without a P-200, I wouldn't even attempt it. (and it's STILL slow!) Props to the fellow who chimed in about Anastasia. I actually went to see it _again_, and I'm now convinced it's superior to most, if not all, of the Disney offerings of recent years. Only Beauty and the Beast rivals it, with a critic's honorary high mark to HOND. i wonder what Dream Theater would sound like playing pseudo-Russian melodies in their prog-rock arrangement? Anyway take care all... I'd better get cracking on replying to all of you. It may be a landslide of mail, but I wouldn't trade it for an empty mailbox, no sirree. :) -- - Mike Bahr / Prism Records - durnik @ goodnet . com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 00:46:06 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: /me is confused... Message-ID: Help me out here. I thought TSO, which stands for Trans-Siberian Orchestra, is a psuedonym for Savatage and their christmas album thing. but , some guy says, ... "but what is the name of the 8th song? I have heard it before I heard this CD and don't believe the name of this song is "Sarajevo 12/24" as it is listed in the tracklist." Welllll, for starters, that's the *12th* song off of DWD. So maybe that's where you heard it. Is all the TSO stuff rehashed? Inquiring minds want to know! josh email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 01:07:51 -0500 From: Tim Lodge To: email_address_removed Subject: For Sale: 80's/90's Rock/Metal CD's and DT: Home Sweet Home CD Message-ID: Just a quick note to all jammers who are into 80's and 90's metal and hard rock: I'm clearing out about 50 of the CD's which either I've : never listened to, or don't listen to anymore. Most of the CD's are around $5 and I'm willing to drop the price (sometimes generously) for multiple CD purchases. For full list of CD's I am selling and other info, please see my website at: http://nw3.nai.net/~axe/cdsale2.htm -----DT CONTENT---- I also have the following DT CD for sale: Dream Theater: Home Sweet Home Recorded Live in Long Island - October 1992 Tracks: Under a Glass Moon, Only a Matter of Time, Surrounded, Status Seeker, Ytsejam, Guitar Solo (Moonbubbles), Another Day, Another Hand/The Killing Hand. I believe this CD was copied for another DT bootleg awhile back (Live in Long Island??)... I'd like $20 shipped for this CD if anyone is interested. It makes a great stocking stuffer! :) :) :) Thanks.. Now back to the Jam. Tim L. email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 03:05:29 -0600 From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." To: email_address_removed Subject: DT fan club question Message-ID: > If anyone needs to know Neil's email addy drop me a note. I don't need to know his address, but the question that I can't seem to find an answer to is: "Can I still send money to the New York address of the fan club?" Any info would be much appreciated by me and many others. Thanks in advance, Mark Peters email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:41:56 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Realaudio concert Message-ID: On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Michael Bahr wrote: > I shall continue to "properly" master these CDs to the best of my > ability in the future. Yes, this does involve recording the entire thing > onto an 800-meg WAV file and manually segmenting it (AECC won't cut it), > and without a P-200, I wouldn't even attempt it. (and it's STILL slow!) Wow, Mike. You're right. It is really a pain in the a$$ to do this. You have to listen to this big WAV a thousand times to see where you should cut the WAV... This takes a lot of computer "power" and if you don't have a fast computer, fast hard disk and lots of memory, you'll have to stop your other activities for a month. :-) If you plan to do some noise reduction, then you're lost... And when we're talking about those bands that do those damn long songs such as Dream Theater, things just get worse. :-) > - Mike Bahr / Prism Records []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:55:07 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: /me is confused... Message-ID: On Sun, 30 Nov 1997 email_address_removed wrote: > "but what is the name of the 8th song? I have heard it before I heard this > CD and don't believe the name of this song is "Sarajevo 12/24" as it is > listed in the tracklist." > > Welllll, for starters, that's the *12th* song off of DWD. So maybe that's > where you heard it. Is all the TSO stuff rehashed? No, no. I actually heard it before Dead Winter Dead (and I only heard this album once, when Marcelo Vanzin brought the CD here at home). But now some kind (thanks Jay, thanks Vinnie, thanks Phil) people told it's called "Carol of the Bells" (I knew it had other title :-) ). Thank you all! BTW, the first time I heard this song was when I downloaded an S3M file from the Internet, I think in 1994 or 1995... It consists of 3 Christmas carols (well, so says the text file that comes with the song) and is very cool. I have it right here with me, if you want to hear (I can put it on my homepage). []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 09:17:48 -0500 From: Len Berkoski To: email_address_removed Subject: Cygnus X-I Message-ID: > >Just wondering if anyone has been pulling this feat of RUSH obsessive >nature lately besides myself. I have FTK and Hemispheres lined up in >the CD changer and just have been playing both books of Cygnus over >and over again...as well as Xanadu... Damn, I don't think RUSH has >ever stunk as a band....although, I am more partial to 2112 to present >when it comes to listening preference. The 3 albums prior to 2112 >are good, but too much like Led Zeppelin for my taste. Oh well, not like >they don't have many albums following the first 3 ;) > > > >Rock on, > >Jeff E. > Funny, I've got the same two discs in my changer now also. After seeing DT in concert the other week in DC, I've been in a prog. metal only mood. The following discs are what I've been listening to in my car: 1. DT - Images and Words 2. DT - Awake 3. DT - A Change of Seasons 4. DT - Falling into Infinity 5. Rush - A Farewell to Kings 6. Rush - Hemispheres 7. King's X - (can't remember title) 8. Metallica - Load 9. Metallica - Reload 10. Fates Warning - A Pleasant Shade of Grey (boy, you've got to love the random mode with a lineup like this!) I agree that when listening to Rush, I tend to lean towards the older albums, although I think they reached a secondary peak in the Power Windows, Hold Your Fire, and Presto era (the more recent albums are somewhat disappointing in comparison). **************************************************************************** Leonard Berkoski III Allied Signal, Scientific Instruments System Engineer Hubble Space Telescope Project Work Number: (301) 286-6949 Fax Number: (301) 286-1726 **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 09:57:22 -0500 From: Deedlit To: email_address_removed Subject: 2 new CD's Message-ID: Back from my turkey day break. Now I'm back at school and way behind on jams.... I happened to pick up 2 new CD's, but they aren't DT, so I will only say a brief word, I promise. :) 1) ReLoad by THAT band. I don't really like it because it's THAT band and this is what they have become, but the recording quality is sweet. 2) Days of the New by Days of the New. KIIIIICKASS! If you like bluesy yet also jazzy acoustic sounds, but with AiC-like vocals, this is for you. It's sweet stuff. I've listened to this CD like 6 times already, whereas I could only listen to the previous CD only twice.... Guess that's all from the guitar-playing freaky gurl today. :) Erica Bonomi, email_address_removed ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Deedlit or Deedo on IRC vacation: email_address_removed ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.skidmore.edu/~ebonomi/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:15:08 -0000 From: "Agar, Jonathan (CAP, EURO)" To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Sod Foy's taste - go for his job Message-ID: <83E9BD6E053FD111B35A0000F6093E27026DDB@LON01XBCAPGE> Changing our new pin-up boy's views short of a brain transplant is pretty much impossible, so: ********* Dear Poets, Artists & Madmen, Your scribbler Mitchell Foy seems to have problems with the purpose of reviewing a CD (Dream Theater, Falling Into Infinity). It seems 'virtuosity', or even a reputation for it, is a bad thing. Apollinaire said 'talent without genius is nothing', but genius without talent is nothing too. If Foy finds talent in a band so off-putting, maybe he should find some other employment. Given that none of GnR, Asia, Cinderella, Extreme and Rush find any favour with him and he doesn't mention any other band he might prefer so we can get a context, maybe he should stick to a form of music he knows something about - presumably talentless, ephemeral, sampled drivel, to take the opposite of what he doesn't like. According to Foy, are you supposed to be 'over-boistrous' with 'cojones', or are you supposed to be 'wimpy'? Where is the pop-rock he mentions? It's hard to take a review seriously which is so inherently contradictory and agenda-driven. What's the point proving that people who don't like prog rock, don't like prog rock? ***endquote*** On another note, does anyone else think that some very good guitarists tend to get worse with age? Why should that be? I'm thinking of: Ritchie Blackmore - peaked 2nd half of 70s Yngwie - Superb debut album, dropped off from 'Eclipse' onwards Tony Macalpine - still good, but doesn't 'grab' me like the older stuff And a lot of guitarists I don't know mentioned on the 'jam whom everyone says are past their prime (Michael Angelo?) Mind you, Joe Satriani just gets better and better... See all the UK jammers at The Forum, I hope Jonathan Agar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:56:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeremy C. Hallum" To: "Yzerjam: the Mailing list for DT/Red Wing Fans Worldwide" Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3304 Message-ID: On Sun, 30 Nov 1997 email_address_removed wrote: > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 19:00:16 -0500 > From: "Jason Birzer" > Subject: Powermad '97 > > Next came on The Quiet Room. These were the only guys who set up their own > drum kit. (everyone else was using the house kit.) They definitly were > the best band of the night. I have their CD as well. Cool. :) Gives me hope that when I get this CD in the mail (in a week or so), that it will be good! > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:49:14 -0200 (EDT) > From: Rogerio Brito > Subject: Re: Maiden on MTV > > On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Dale R. Newberry wrote: > > > Man, I was just watching some of the MTV Sports and Music Festival > > (hey, I dig some of the street and ramp bike riding :), when I > > noticed that they were playing Maiden's "Run to the Hills" as > > background music for part of it. They actually played most of the > > song, too :). > > Well, it is very interesting: yesterday I was watching MTV Brazil > and they played some real cool thing: Through the Never, by "that" band. > :-) Cool :). I only wish MTV US played some of that good stuff! Though I am getting spoiled watching The Headbangers Show on MTV Latino. I only wish they played less thrash and more prog. *sigh*. Though, they did MENTION Dream Theater. One of the bands they interviewed (in Spanish) said the words Dream Theater in a sentence. Now if I only understood Spanish. I'm pretty sure they were talking about the bands influences, though. I think. They could be talking about the bands they hate the most. If only I knew a bit of Espanol (beyond that word), then I could tell you. *sigh* They did play one of Death's more recent vids off of Eternity last week. That was a nifty song. I kinda liked that one(forgot the name of the song totally. Oh, and the most interesting videos played on a heavy metal video show? Led Zepplin's Whole Lotta Love, and Deep Purple's Perfect Strangers. I still think DT does a better version of that than Deep Purple does. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 00:08:03 -0200 (EDT) > From: Rogerio Brito > Subject: Re: TSO > > > On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Jay Omega wrote: > > > Did anyone else notice that last week's Target ad contained > > TSO - Christmas Eve & Other Stories? Nationally-advertised > > prog music... cool. > > Man, I have no words to describe this fantastic CD. I think that > it is one of the best things that I have ever heard. It's up there with > I&W, FII, AJFA (yes, "that" band) and Opeth's albums. Definitely on my top > 6. Thanks, Matt, sending for such a great CD (it's also the only CD that I > have that both my mom and dad like :-) )! You forgot Angra's Holy Land in that list. :) To add to the chorus: GET TSO, IT ROCKS! (and so does Opeth, for that matter, but that's a different animal) -jeremy +=====================================================================+ # grad student, Boston U. # "I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, # # Boston, MA 02134 # and I'm all out of bubblegum." # # Astronomy # "Rowdy" Roddy Piper--They Live # #<*> Jeremy Hallum <*># # #<*> email_address_removed <*># Bleeding Purple since the tender age of 6.# #<*>email_address_removed <*># http://bu-ast.bu.edu/~jhallum/ # +=====================================================================+ ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3305 **************************