YTSEJAM Digest 3280 Today's Topics: 1) Boston date announced by Michael Burstin 2) RE: BMS by David Edwards 3) Re: A Goosebump Moment by email_address_removed 4) King Diamond by "Rosenfeld" 5) Queensryche trade by "Rosenfeld" 6) goosebumps galore by ALI ABBAS 7) re: evolution by Pat Sullivan 8) Re: Megadeth by Rogerio Brito 9) CDs for sale by "Metzger, Mark" 10) Opeth again & Megadeth & "that" band by Rogerio Brito 11) re: revolutionary by Pat Sullivan 12) Chills by Rogerio Brito 13) Tingle, tingle by Buck Stodgers 14) Spinning Years CD by Shai Yallin 15) Goosebump moments, other stuff by email_address_removed (Jeff Taylor) 16) Seeking Pink Floyd Box Set by Brian 17) Re: King Diamond by Cappy 18) Re: Images And Words HARD BOX !!! by jOHN jENS 19) INXS (no dtc) by "Gene Szucs" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 11:31:46 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin To: email_address_removed (Ytsejam Mailing List) Subject: Boston date announced Message-ID: For those of you not on the Boston area list (you really should be), DT has announced a show on Sat Dec 13, 1997 at the ROXY. Tickets are already on sale thgough ticketmaster... it is an 18+ show, according to TM. -- +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ | A daily dose of eMpTyV | Dream Theater | | will flush you mind right down the drain | Falling Into Infinity | | --- taken from: Just Let Me Breathe --- | In Stores NOW!! | +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ Michael Burstin: email_address_removed Oh my God, they've killed Kenny!! http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/ Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 11:59:35 -0500 From: David Edwards To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: RE: BMS Message-ID: > From: email_address_removed > To: email_address_removed > Subject: in Tucson... > Here's an interesting little snippet from our one and only "rock" station > in tucson... This is from their official play list, it's interesting to see > where DT falls in with the pack: > > Dream Theater Burning My Soul ( 9) EastWest Wow. This is starting to make me feel that we have a pretty damn cool radio station here in Maine. I was spent most of yesterday either reading or driving around, and on the same radio station I heard BMS 3 times. Yesterday alone. And I was only listening for a total of maybe 5-6 hours. Mainers must just like the title of the song and listen to it in the hopes it keeps us warm for awhile. Since YNM premiered last Thursday (that was the official radio station "New Music" time) I haven't heard it played. When BMS was premiered several people called up to say how cool it was...there wasn't that response to YNM. Well, there's one good thing about Maine... David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 12:01:53 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: A Goosebump Moment Message-ID: Hey Friends - >Question: If You Had To Pick that One Part Of That One DT Song That Always >Makes You Cream, What Would You Pick? Boy, that's a tough one. There are so many to choose from... Well, off the top of my head (and I'm half awake right now, so I might not be remembering all that I should...), I'd have to say the outro to "Scarred" after James says "I'm inspired and content..." That gets me going (as well as the rest of that song, for that matter) every time! Buh-Bye for now, - Matt T. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 13:15:05 +0200 From: "Rosenfeld" To: Subject: King Diamond Message-ID: Hi! Can anyone recommend me any King Diamond album? I heard that Abigail is pretty good, do you agree/disagree? Thanks, Avi ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 13:31:19 +0200 From: "Rosenfeld" To: Subject: Queensryche trade Message-ID: Hi Everybody! I have a rare Operation Mindcrime CD that i would like to trade. it's a picturedisk. anybody wants it? if yes, then please email me privately. Avi email_address_removed.il ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 17:16:14 +0000 (GMT) From: ALI ABBAS To: email_address_removed Subject: goosebumps galore Message-ID: SURROUNDED -- melodic prog at it's best. (Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!) ( oh shit , where's the Kleenex when you need it ! ) 'Let the light surround you...' - @66@$ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 12:34:53 -0500 From: Pat Sullivan To: email_address_removed Subject: re: evolution Message-ID: >If they kept doing I&W over and over again in the sense that >they kept writing complex, challenging, widely varied, and totally original >compositions that featured alot of tasteful, yet interesting and exciting and >unpredictable guitar and keyboard solos, then I would never get sick of it. Wouldn't we all, though. :) Although, I'm sure many of us think they still are. But, as an example, look back at your own musical "evolution". What were you listening to 10 or 15 years ago? Have your musical tastes changed in that time? I know mine have. Hell, 15 years ago, I was one of those Top-40 listening people that we make fun of all the time. I listened to somebody like Metallica back then, and all I heard was noise. Over time, though, my tastes have evolved/grown/changed, or whatever you want to call it. If you had asked me at any point during that time period if I thought I'd ever get tired of my current fave, I'd have told you "No", just like you did about I&W. I can't picture myself right now ever getting bored of/tired of DT's music, but unless my past history contradicts itself, I probably will. My point is that this happens, to some extent, with everyone. Your tastes may only change a little, someone else may end up with a full 180 like mine, but it always happens - or else we'd all still be listening to "Pop Goes The Weasel" on our Fisher-Price toys - (my daughter's current favorite, although she does headbang a little to FII. Gotta bring 'em up right). And because of this personal change, a person shouldn't be so quick to blame a band when they put out an album of material the fan doesn't like, because they changes are hapeening on *both* sides of the transaction. _____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________ E-Mail: email_address_removed WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html IRC: DDictator ICQ: 2049374 ______________________________________________________ It's not hard to meet expenses, they're everywhere. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 15:41:26 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Megadeth Message-ID: On Sat, 22 Nov 1997, Vincent G. LuPone wrote: > Hey all, I found something...kinda interesting on the thrash song "The > Disintegrators" off of Cryptic Writings. I didn't pick it up until I put > the headphones on last night and went to sleep to the CD. At 0:29 into the > song, you can clearly hear a voice saying "6-6-6" in the right speaker. > Anyone else hear this? I thought it was kinda interesting considering the Yes. I hear this. But I think that it is a mix between sex and six... :-) > religious beliefs some of the members of MD have. Sure. Dave himself said that some songs would have different lyrics if they were written now. Oh, and I just bought "that" album by "that" band. I don't like it very much, I must say. :-( Maybe it will grow on me, but I only like the songs that I listened to before. > Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 12:46:48 -0500 From: "Metzger, Mark" To: "'(ytsejam)'" Subject: CDs for sale Message-ID: CDs for sale: They're new, they're fresh and they have only been played once !! Trust me. Genesis Calling all Stations and ReRoad as they say in Japan. $8 each US postpaid or, let's do both for the special one-time package deal price of $18, US postpaid. Call it the "right brain special". Yankees get first dibs but international orders will be considered if these hot babies dont sell domestically. Random Rumblings: 1) Merry Axemas is OK, but a bit of a letdown. Not enough creativity given the all-star lineup that was assembled. 2) Stratovarius' 1997 release "Visions" is awe-fuckin-some !! Angra fans will get all sorts of excited over this disk. Buy it and ask questions later. 3) >> At 06:23 PM 11/22/97 -0800, Josh wrote: >> Question: If You Had To Pick that One Part Of That One DT Song >> That Always Makes You Cream, What Would You Pick? EASILY, the live version of AH/TKH that was done for the fix and Europe 97 shows. Hearing "the new jazzy part" let me know that DS had arrived in style. Later, Mark Metzger email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 16:01:08 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Opeth again & Megadeth & "that" band Message-ID: On Sun, 23 Nov 1997, Luke wrote: > PS. Opeth - Under The Weeping Moon, when the NON DEATH VOCALS come in > with at about 7:45 [bbrrrrrghhhh - who turned the f**ken airconditioning > on ?]. Not to mention the accoustic guitar section 3:15 with the swirls > over the top [bbrrrrrghhhh X 2]. Wow. I think that the reason why I love this band is that almost every song gives me chills. I just started to play Orchid and the melodies are fuckin' killers, but the interludes are, are, are... I can't describe. It's a mix of subtle with a state of nirvana. Specially "The Twilight is My Robe". It is a 11-minute orgasm. Specially the acoustic part at 3:35. BTW, I just noticed some similarities between Megadeth's "Sin" and the seventh song from the second album by "that" band: go to sin and 2:11. Then, start to sing: "Die, by my hand/I creep across the land/Killing first born men". []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 13:04:56 -0500 From: Pat Sullivan To: email_address_removed Subject: re: revolutionary Message-ID: >> of Tears." While singer James Labrie (sic) proclaims a "New Millennium," >> the music doesn't do anything at all new. > >This always bugs me for some reason. I just don't see why a song has to >be completely revolutionary to be good. Particularly when the reviewer's idea of "revolutionary" is something like Oasis. I get the impression this guy wouldn't recognize a revolution if somebody ran up to him with a tri-cornered hat and a musket. (Sorry for the blatant U.S. reference here. I don't know what other countries wore to their revolutions. So sue me.) ----- _____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________ E-Mail: email_address_removed WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html IRC: DDictator ICQ: 2049374 ______________________________________________________ It's not hard to meet expenses, they're everywhere. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 16:05:32 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito To: email_address_removed Subject: Chills Message-ID: Of course, how could I forget: "To Live Forever". The vocal harmonies. []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 13:00:57 -0800 From: Buck Stodgers To: email_address_removed Subject: Tingle, tingle Message-ID: Hello, As far as tingly stuff, here's one part from each album: WDADU: *OAMOT: The keys over the end section are IMHO inspirational. IaW: *LtL: Though the Whoa does it for me, what reallly gets me is the classical/flamenco acoustic solo. Nearly gets some tears every time... LatM: *AH/TKH: The Another Hand intro MAKES this song Awake: *SDV: This over the Mirror/Lie transition. When the additional instruments kick in over the piano in the beginning. Or just the whole damn song. ACoS: *ACoS: The segue from the acoustic guitar in the intro. When that 7-string kicks in, it's allllllll balls and chunk. FII: *PS: Same as everyone else, that line right before the solo. I think that's quite enough for now, don't you? -- ______________________________________________________________ "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter..." -Yoda, the Jedi Master ______________________________________________________________ Andrew Forcier a.k.a. Buck Stodgers Maintainer of the List of Ytse-Traders of Repute; To submit names or request a copy, mailto:email_address_removed To view the list: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ytselist.txt -------------------------------------------------------------- --List Manager-- The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List for e-mail inquiries, mailto:email_address_removed ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 20:11:22 +0300 From: Shai Yallin To: Ytsejam Mailing List Subject: Spinning Years CD Message-ID: Hi There! Whoa! What a week I had.... 3 tests last week and 3 more this week. I can barely keep up with the jams. Anyway, I just got the Spinning Years CD from Ryan Whitaker. I know everyone said so, but I'll say it yet once again: Awesome CD! Great job Ryan! Every DT fan should have one of those. By the way, is it just me, or the chord progression in the guitar solo to In The Dead Of Night is very similiar to the guitar & keys solo in ToT... like, VERY similiar, like, almost the same? ;-) Laterz, -- Shai Yallin - Kurush on #YTSEJAM "I'm American, honey. Our names don't mean shit." - Bruce Willis on Pulp Fiction "How can you keep your head and not go insane when the only light at the end of the tunnel is another train" - Mike Portnoy Visit my home page at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3247 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 14:23:03 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Jeff Taylor) To: email_address_removed Subject: Goosebump moments, other stuff Message-ID: Hi! My all time favorite DT moment would have to be the dialog in the middle of Voices ("Do you know that reality is immaterial?"). That part sends shivers up and down my spine every time I hear it. Also, the part in Erotomania after JP plays arpeggios up and down the neck and then he just sits on one chord while KM plays a beautiful piano line underneath. That part sounds so simple yet beautiful to my ears. As for non DT songs, APSOG is full of goosebump-y moments, but a couple that stick out are Part IV, after the "Ooooooh" vocals, where the whole band just kicks in on this nasty riff, the "Shoot me!" in Part VII, and "And I know we can't turn back all the years" in Part VI. Savatage also has their fair share of shiver-inducing moments: the vocal section at the end of Chance ("All the time believng that it now came down to nothing but this chaaaaaaance!"), Alone You Breathe (the whole thing), and Not What You See (especially the layered vocals at the end). I can't wait for Wake Of The Magellan! It's moments such as the ones listed above (and many more) that make me listen to the kind of music that I listen to. When I turn on the radio or Muchmusic, I rarely, if ever, hear anything that makes me go "Hey, that sounds pretty cool. I've never heard anything like that before." Consequently, I rarely ever pick up a CD because I heard a song on the radio that I liked. Out of all the CDs I've bought in the past year, I may have heard only 2 or 3 of those songs on the radio or on TV. Mostly I just stick to my favorite bands (such as DT, Van Halen, and Faith No More) or recommendations from the Ytsejam (like Fates Warning and Savatage). Like many of the people on this list, I find myself getting frustrated at the current state of the music industry, and it's great when a band comes out with a song like JLMB that perfectly voices those frustrations. So to the bands I've mentioned above, and all the other bands who stay true to what they believe in, I say "Keep up the great work!". Someday the time will come when this kind of music finally gets recognized for the truly great music that it is. And I'm sure that for many of us, that day can't come a moment too soon! If you've made it this far, thanks for listening! Talk to ya later! Jeff "A daily dose of eMpTyV will flush your mind right down the drain." -some band that a few people on here seem to like or something ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 13:31:56 -0800 From: Brian To: email_address_removed Subject: Seeking Pink Floyd Box Set Message-ID: Hey, all, if anyone has a copy of Pink Floyd's "Shine On" box set that they'd be willing to part with, I'm looking to buy it. The cheapest I've seen it new is $130 and I really don't have that kind of cash. I'd also appreciate it if someone could tell me where I could find it cheaper. ======================================================================== "Are you gonna bark all day, little ----- doggie, or are you gonna ---- ------------- ---- bite?"-Micheal Madsen, ---- - ---- Reservoir Dogs -- - - - - - - - -- "Years of pain I will take and hone - - - - - - - Manifest with your broken bones - - -- - -- - - My heart bleeds for none but my -- - - - - - - - -- own"-Machine Head ---- - - - ---- "None But My Own" ---- ------------- ---- Brian ----- email_address_removed ======================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 12:36:06 -0600 From: Cappy To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: King Diamond Message-ID: On Sun, Nov 23, 1997 at 09:16:14AM -0800, Rosenfeld wrote: > Can anyone recommend me any King Diamond album? > I heard that Abigail is pretty good, do you agree/disagree? I agree. Great album, but better get used to that falsetto :) -- Mike Jones, email_address_removed __________ Cappy _________ email_address_removed Parallels - Official Fates Warning Mailing List | Progressive Metal Hub http://www.progmetal.org/fateswarning | http://www.progmetal.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 13:31:10 -0600 (CST) From: jOHN jENS To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Images And Words HARD BOX !!! Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, KAI wrote: | >i've got this. most Americans call them "long boxes." just another relic. | >prolly not worth much...other than 100DM that you paid for it. so i guess | >mine's worth 100DM too ;) | | I'd open it too, because the music on the CD is worth much more than the | packaging. At first, I thought this was some kind of novelty item, until | it was cleared up that it's just a long box. I don't think there's | anything in it except for the CD. No bother keeping it sealed. duh. who said anything about it being unopened? :) oh yeah, and i'm still working on getting that bassfrontiers article on JM up. john the .sigless NP: thecure - Disintegration ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 14:48:02 -0500 From: "Gene Szucs" To: Subject: INXS (no dtc) Message-ID: <01bcf848$b5be1b80$7ad3430c@geneszuc> My first concert experience came in 1987 at the INXS Kick "Calling All Nations" tour, and it is very sad news indeed to hear that someone who helped kick off (no pun intended) a journey for myself had to take his own life and end his own. He'll be missed by many people, children of the 80's AND 90's. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3280 **************************