YTSEJAM Digest 3254 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Powermad by Albert Balkiewicz 2) Hollow Years video by Arash Ashouriha 3) Re: Ytsejam Prog Listing by Cappy 4) (NDTC) Queensryche "LIVEcrime" box for sale by email_address_removed (Dan Temmesfeld) 5) Re: ytse photo gallery by "Dale R. Newberry" 6) Re: Mid Term Review by email_address_removed 7) FW: mmo... by "Michael J. Emerson" 8) Liver! Someone said liver?!!!! by KillMary 9) tea party by email_address_removed 10) Re: plastic people by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 11) I missed DT in Denver! by "email_address_removed" 12) Re: Mid Term Review by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 13) Delayed Reaction, Almost Always, Megadeth, Ytselove by Seth Hatlelid 14) Re: Mid Term Review by Eric Rodger 15) Nothing too important. by Jon Kretschmer 16) Re: ytsefems by email_address_removed 17) RE: YTSEJAM digest 3251 by "Tedesco, Matthew" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:51:56 -0500 (EST) From: Albert Balkiewicz To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Powermad Message-ID: > > > > >anybody who lives on the east coast better be going to POWERMAD. > > this could be the ticket to seeing ANGRA, GAMMA RAY, etc. in the > > US > > Last I checked their page, those bands were not listed... does anybody have > the URL? I lost it. > Maybe he means that if Powermad gets a good showing, that will bring attention to the people responsible for booking Angra, Gamma Ray, etc,. to get their asses in gear and book 'em in the States. -Al -- ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ I inhale the sun...........I exhale the absence of light I am the number One..........burning. ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ email: email_address_removed email_address_removed HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:10:52 -0800 From: Arash Ashouriha To: email_address_removed Subject: Hollow Years video Message-ID: Hi What about the Hollow Years Video ? Is it ready now ? ------------------- BTW, my top 10 albums of the week : 1)Shadow Gallery - Shadow Gallery 2)Dream Theater - Falling Into Infinity 3)Shadow Gallery - Carved In Stone 4)Fates Warning - Parallels 5)Enchant - A Blueprint Of The World 6)Royal Hunt - 1996 7)Europe - The Forgotten Tales 8)Arena - The Cry EP 9)Yngwie Malmsteen - Facing The Animal 10)Royal Hunt - Paradox ARASH -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PROG OR DIE - The Progressive Music Page | | | | DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING - ROYAL HUNT - SHADOW GALLERY | | | | http://lionel.kr.fh-niederrhein.de/~ashouria/index.htm | | OR | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1748/ | | | | by Arash Ashouriha | | | | email_address_removed.de | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:28:04 -0600 From: Cappy To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Ytsejam Prog Listing Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 18, 1997 at 12:50:20AM -0800, Ryan Good wrote: > > Hey all- I think I have a good idea. You know how we all seem to know > about at least 1 band that no one else knows about? Do you think we should > post our lists of Prog cd's to the jam just to see what's in people's > collections? It would give us all a good idea of what else is out there and > is a good thing to have. Go to a used CD store and bring the list and there > you are...spending hours and hundreds of dollars.. Or go to a CD place that > has a computer database for looking up their CD's. If you think It's a good > idea...then just do it. I'm going to do it in a second. This is a VERY dangerous idea! (Speaking as a man who has spent a few hundred dollars in CDs in the last month from recommendations of mailing lists). :) -- Mike Jones, email_address_removed __________ Cappy _________ email_address_removed Parallels - Official Fates Warning Mailing List | Progressive Metal Hub http://www.progmetal.org/fateswarning | http://www.progmetal.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:47:29 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Dan Temmesfeld) To: email_address_removed Subject: (NDTC) Queensryche "LIVEcrime" box for sale Message-ID: Sorry to bug up the list (well, i'm not really sorry, at least this is music related)... I have the Queensryche "Operation:LIVEcrime" boxset for sale. It has the Video and CD of their complete O:M performance (edits from three shows) in May 1991. Also included is a cool 50pg (or so) booklet with all of the lyrics and live photos and pieces of the storyline to the epic concept Operation:Mindcrime. The entire boxset is in impeccable condition. I watched the video once, and never listened to the CD. I bought it new, as well; so it really IS in MINT to NEAR MINT condition. I bought it last Xmas season, but since then it has pretty much sat on my shelf. $35 firm, with priority shipping included. If interested, email me... email_address_removed Thanks, Dan ---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - dantemm (at) erinet (dot) com Galactic Cowboys on the Web...muh!? http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm ---+ +--- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:52:51 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: ytse photo gallery Message-ID: Hey, I was just wondering if the Ytsejam photo gallery thing is still up. I seem to have forgotten the URL for it. Just curious. Dale R. Newberry "Do not give me any of that Zen and some art of motorcycle maintenance stuff. Just ride your bike." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:24:44 +0000 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Mid Term Review Message-ID: > Every time I listen to FII, I end up questioning how good this disc could > have been if the production didn't suck so bad. > my mouth. I gotta give the thumbs down to Shirley, and Storm (because I > still don't like the cover - it seems so UN-DT). I love the songs, I just > wish they sounded better. This album still sounds great to me, by any standard. I only hear a production screw up once on the whole album (A distortion in the delay on one of the vocal lines at one particular point in LitS). So again, I don't believe this isn't something you can really debate. Chris Ptacek email_address_removed http://www.prognosis.com/madsman Go Home and Practice! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:38:50 -0500 From: "Michael J. Emerson" To: "'Ytse Jam'" Subject: FW: mmo... Message-ID: <01BCF427.4E8C9830@EMERSON> howdy, all... i posted this a week ago, and i got _no_ response to it, so i'm = re-posting it verbatim... m. NP: DT - Awake p.s.: just got my tix for Tradewinds on Fri. - woohoo! (doors open at = 8:00 (according to the tickets, anyway...), and i'll prob be there in = the 7:00-7:30 range (5'7", brown hair, will have on either a DT-I&W tour = shirt or a DT-'Home for the Holidays' tour shirt)) -- m. greetings, jammers... anyone know where i can get my hands on music by some of our favorite = bands (DT, Rush, Pink Floyd, Queensryche, etc.) in a 'Music Minus One' = format (a.k.a.: entire piece of music minus a specific instrument (the = drum parts...fyi...))? please let me know if you have any suggestions... thanx! m. ____________________________________________________________ Truism: Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk? Truism: Black holes are where God divided by zero. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:45:48 -0500 (EST) From: KillMary To: email_address_removed Subject: Liver! Someone said liver?!!!! Message-ID: >FII leaves me >feeling like I just ate liver, and had no desert to get that taste out of >my mouth. =20 LIVER! I LOVE LIVER! Maybe that's it! Maybe that's why I like the CD! >I gotta give the thumbs down to Shirley, and Storm (because I >still don't like the cover - it seems so UN-DT). I love the songs, I just >wish they sounded better. LIVER! LIVER! LIVER! K. :-) "The faces that you show have everyone concerned. But if they turn their backs to you, trust in you, they'll learn. Whatever happened is over now for you. With you there's nothing that you wouldn't do. Now it's time to get a life." - Queensr=FFche, "Get a Life" -= the Metallica song???? :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:49:29 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: tea party Message-ID: >Hey guys, there is a great band playing in Chicago tonight called the >Tea Party. I know that there are a couple of other people on this >list who listen to them and they will back me up when I say this band >is great. They are playing at Thurstons at 7pm (I guess it is on W. Yup. This band is great. The best way I can describe them would be to say they're a cross between Tool and...and...I don't know. And they use this really cool "egyptian" motiff. You have got to give them a listen. They were playing in montreal a few weeks ago and I would have gone without a doubt but I was involved with a production of Macbeth all that weekend. josh email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:12:31 -0800 From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: plastic people Message-ID: On the Eve of Destruction, Anna & Heike Boedeker said: > >though probably not the way most kids approach it... Try e.g. dancing to >Watchtower's Control & Resistance, there you really have something to *feel >& express* with your body (other than boredom like in case of the Spice >Girls :-)) Did she just say DANCE with Watchtower in the same sentence? You must be triple jointed... -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: email_address_removed #$%#$#$% _+_+_+_+ Unix, Internet, Intranet Engineering _+_+_+_+ [][][][] Dr. Mosh's Progressive Feast [][][][] #$@#$#@# http://progmetal.gmsnet.com @#$@##@$ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:16:20 "GMT" From: "email_address_removed" To: "." Subject: I missed DT in Denver! Message-ID: Hey jammerz, I know it's been a while, but I thought I'd relay my tale of woe= . . . I was scheduled to fly to Denver on Oct. 25th - the day 30" of= snow hit my old neighborhood there. The flight was canceled,= and I was able to reschedule it for Nov. 6th - the day DT hit= town - woohoo! BUT - tickets were sold out. My son's g/f said= she knew the security people at the Ogden and could get us in,= but it never happened. So I drove around the damn theatre= trying to at least see or hear something, to no avail. Cops= everywhere - East Colfax is a pretty seedy part of town, ya= know. So . . . that sucked. Now that you all feel sorry for me, (hey! didja notice my new= addy) why doesn't everybody go to www.surfree.com and sign up= for free e-mail, and mention that I referred ya - let's see, 800= jammerz @ $2 each - that would buy me and a significant other= two plane tickets to another DT concert! Cmon, it's the least= you can do! Donning his asbestos jockstrap, Larry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:17:30 -0800 From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Mid Term Review Message-ID: On the Eve of Destruction, Eric Rodger said: > >feeling like I just ate liver, and had no desert to get that taste out of >my mouth. I gotta give the thumbs down to Shirley, and Storm (because I >still don't like the cover - it seems so UN-DT). I love the songs, I just >wish they sounded better. Maybe you should stop listening to FII.... Cause everytime you post, Just Let Me Breathe comes on... -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: email_address_removed #$%#$#$% _+_+_+_+ Unix, Internet, Intranet Engineering _+_+_+_+ [][][][] Dr. Mosh's Progressive Feast [][][][] #$@#$#@# http://progmetal.gmsnet.com @#$@##@$ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:40:09 -0600 From: Seth Hatlelid To: email_address_removed Subject: Delayed Reaction, Almost Always, Megadeth, Ytselove Message-ID: Has anyone noticed the delayed reaction in people's liking\acceptence of Dt's stuff (albums, new members, artwork, etc)? When I first came on to the list (arastar, Ben Laussade, Dt Tribute and all that carpe) people were trashing laBrie, saying that DT should fire him, feed him to the lions, make sushi with him and now everybody is nothing but compliments. Same with Derek. When I met the guy last year at a clinic, his playing really blew me away, but what really got me is that he was so INTO the music. If he wasn't such a player, I'd say he liked his music better than sex (and he really seems like a nice guy when I talked...er, jabbered like an idiot with a speech impediment with him. When I first got Awake, 6:00 came on and I considered returning the CD, same with New Millenium. While I still don't like 6:00 at all, I LOVE Awake and FII (NM is growing on me). After I sat down and played with all of teh comparisons with Storms artwork with Lines in the Sand (there are a lot more than you would think) I started to like it too. Awake's art always grabbed me and I & W was just kind of...it was better than Load's semen and Kool-aid painting. For those who are interested in all-things Echolyn, I just got an email from Greg Kull(somehow related to Brett Kull, guitarist of MFB, Echolyn) and he sasid that Still has changed their name to Almost Always and are releasing their second album in a few months. I WOULD BOIL MY BEST FRIEND IN ORANGE YTSEJAM TO SEE DT OPEN FOR MEGADETH!!!! Megadeth has always had fantastic openers (except for when they were on crack and got Stone Temple Pilots and opened for Aerosmith) like Fear Factory, Flotsom and Jetsom, and Korn. I saw Megadeth with the Misfits (they were pretty amusing for a bung of old potbellied tubs of lard wearing bloody leathers and trying to capitalize on the resurgence of punk, the new singer is pretty good tho) and was blown away. I know that this is a pretty shallow thing to say is that my only complaint is that Davis Ellefson looks like a complete dork with his head shaved. What's up with all these bassists shaving their heads. First Jason Newstead, now David. I hope this doesn't mean that Meagadeth are going to start wearing makeup and writing sequals to their own songs (flame suit on). Mustaine is the quintessential showman, very, very fun to watch. The only problem is that, sadly, Megadeth is no longer as popular as they were and they played a relatively small venue bringing in about as many people in Saint Louis as DT did on their KC date on the Awake tour so I think that DT would do better to open for a bigger band. probably over the estrangement I >see there... maybe it reminds me of my misspent youth practising 5 hours on >bass a day as a 15 year-old and playing in bands w/ guys at least 5 years -Heike A mature girl that loves DT, AND plays bass? Me thinks I'm in love :-) -FFFF,0000,0000Seth (sorry for the overabundence of parenthetical expressions and the length 8-) Seth Hatlelid email_address_removed Check out my web page at http://artsci.wustl.edu/~srhatlel/index.html "Belzebub had a very convincing argument" - Mary Bly, my English Teacher ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:40:25 -0500 From: Eric Rodger To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Mid Term Review Message-ID: At 11:29 AM 11/18/97 -0800, you wrote: > >On the Eve of Destruction, Eric Rodger said: >> >>feeling like I just ate liver, and had no desert to get that taste out of >>my mouth. I gotta give the thumbs down to Shirley, and Storm (because I >>still don't like the cover - it seems so UN-DT). I love the songs, I just >>wish they sounded better. > >Maybe you should stop listening to FII.... > >Cause everytime you post, Just Let Me Breathe comes on... > I know what you're saying. Again, I love the songs for the most part, but even when JLMB comes on, it ALMOST rips my head off. If the drums didn't sound so weak, it would have. I guess it sounds like all I have is complaints, but when Awake came out, I didn't have any complaints. I listen to FII all the time hoping I'll like it more and more, and it's working - so maybe I'll be able to get past the production just in time to find the faults with the Metropolis 2 EP. I think it's human nature to be more vocal about the faults than the credits. Maybe I'll start posting what I love about the album, or maybe I'll just shut up. KAI ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:42:04 -0800 From: Jon Kretschmer To: email_address_removed Subject: Nothing too important. Message-ID: >Well, metallica should do peruvian skies. They did it >before... it's called 'bleeding me'.. ;) hehe, I noticed that the first time I heard PS too. >and, of course, >Green Day doing Metropolis Part I, and II, back to back Dont forget Nirvana doing an instrumental version of ACOS... Jon Jon email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:00:49 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: ytsefems Message-ID: Add another to the counter! :} In a message dated 97-11-18 08:07:24 EST, Madsag pointed out: > we're there, i think maybe we get hidden by you extremely tall guys who > inevitably stand RIGHT in front of me anytime i am at a show. =) > Abolutely! i'm sure that the only way i'll be able to see at the Poughkeepsie show is cause my boyfriend will be there and he'll be able to clear me a little room. :} See yall there! ~Lisa email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:04:00 -0500 From: "Tedesco, Matthew" To: email_address_removed Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 3251 Message-ID: Hello, ]From Richie: > What you call a "current trend" has been in practice since the >genesis of the recording industry. It is merely good business sense to try >to "milk" a product for all it's worth before releasing a new product into >the marketplace. From the label's perspective, you eliminate the risk of Not sure about this, but I think Richie's got it wrong. I mean, didn't Yes' Fragile and CttE come out within 10 or 11 months of each other? (The thought makes me tremble--what an overdose of unbelievable music.) Rush's albums in the 70s were all close together, and I think Cream did all their work in a very short period. So, thnigs have seemed to change. 'Course, with albums back then barely reaching 40 minutes, the explanations for the change are probably complicated, but the long breaks between albums does seem to be sort of current. Maybe someone in the business knows this issue conclusively. Anyone? --MATt ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3254 **************************