YTSEJAM Digest 3237 Today's Topics: 1) RE: New I Mother Earth News. by "Joshua B. Wingell" 2) Live music by "Joshua B. Wingell" 3) Re: New I Mother Earth News. by "Christopher R. Merlo" 4) Re: HELP : I need a good tab editor !!! by Rogerio Brito 5) DT on German radio! by Alex 6) Angra & DT guitar tabs.. by perix 7) Pantera & Anthrax by "Vincent G. LuPone" 8) 2nd DC show Dec 26 by Pat Daugherty 9) Re: New I Mother Earth News. by Cappy 10) re: ***My Opinions by email_address_removed (Pat Sullivan) 11) Yep, it's the time to vote! by Syrinx 12) Objective overrruled! BWAHAHAHAHAH by Jon Parmet 13) Shadow Gallery by Lars Hellsten 14) I&W songs/To Live Forever by Rogerio Brito 15) Newbie Alert! by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 13:20:31 EST From: "Joshua B. Wingell" To: email_address_removed Subject: RE: New I Mother Earth News. Message-ID: >Rest assured he has all the talent, voice and charisma we could >have hoped for and more. Oh no! James LaBrie is going to be singing for I Mother Earth!?!? ;-) Hmm, actually...I don't think that JL's voice would work in IME. :) Josh Hey guys...come back to New England! 3;^)> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 13:30:39 EST From: "Joshua B. Wingell" To: email_address_removed Subject: Live music Message-ID: I have seen Dream Theater live 4 times. Rochester, NY (I&W) in a big tent in the city Buffalo, NY (Awake) in the armory Long Island, NY (ACOS/Awake) free concert New Haven, CT (FII) Toad's Place But I have never seen them play my 3 favorite songs live. Surrounded, Wait For Sleep, and Learning To Live! Have they ever played these songs live (well, I know Surrounded is on LATM)? Are there any boots of these songs live? Am I just unlucky? :) Thanks, Josh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:50:01 -0500 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: New I Mother Earth News. Message-ID: > Okay Kids! This is it! The news you've all been waiting patiently > for! That's right, we've found our new singer. > >Sorry we can't tell you any specific details at the moment but he's >definitely the right guy. Oh, God, I hope it's not Sammy Hagar or something. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough email_address_removed "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates email_address_removed /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:01:36 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: HELP : I need a good tab editor !!! Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Arash Ashouriha wrote: > BTW, my top 10 albums of the week : (...) > 10)Angra - Holy Land (2CD) That's really cool. I only know 2 of 3 of the live songs on the 2nd disc. In fact, I saw this 2CD set being sold here, but my budget was not enough to get a copy of it. Could you please tell me how does "Chega de Saudade" sounds like? I know that it is a popular folk song (popular?? Not so popular I think -- I don't know it), but I'm curious to know how does this live/acoustic version sound like. BTW, I think it was a shame that they have not included these songs on "Holy Live". > ARASH []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:37:59 +0100 From: Alex To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: DT on German radio! Message-ID: <01BCF06F.CEF48A20@IBANEZ> Hi all today, one of the biggest radiostations in germany, SWF3, plays "Hollow years". I can't remember, how often i wrote, fax or call SWF3 to play DT, but nothing happens. And now, they play it in the afternoon program. Wow, it's incredible....! Greetings Alex DREAM THEATER "Falling into Infinity" "...sometimes a view from sinless eyes centers our perspectives and pacifies our cries sometimes the anguish we survive and the mysteries we nurture are the fabrics of our lives...." - LINES IN THE SAND by John Petrucci - ************************************************** Alex Honnef Email: email_address_removed.de Tel: 02644-981242 Fax: 02644-981241 ************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:09:55 +0100 From: perix To: "email_address_removed" Subject: Angra & DT guitar tabs.. Message-ID: <346B5083.EAF1040E@cyberg.it> Where can i find DT and Angra ' s guitar tab? I' m looking expecially for To live forever by DT. Thank you ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:34:22 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" To: email_address_removed Subject: Pantera & Anthrax Message-ID: heheh, Deja Vu, Dale ;) If any of you get a chance to go to a show on the Pantera/Anthrax tour, GO!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!!! First, imagine Anthrax playing TONS of their old (I mean VERY old) stuff, their best songs, AND one of their new songs for the upcoming album (they're going back to all-out thrash, by the way). Also, imagine Anthrax with a skilled lead player :) Then imagine Phil and Darrell from Pantera coming out on stage during Anthrax's show and doing shots of some booze with Anthrax and some guys in the crowd :) Then imagine Rob Halford singing a Priest song with the guys in Pantera. THEN, think of Scott Ian playing rhythm guitar for "A New Level". Finally, imagine Pantera's set lasting 2 and a half hours! Great show. Kinda makes you think, "What on earth is Metallica DOING?! Friggin' nimrods." Thrash is back :) The show was sold out at Mesa Amphitheater (about 6,000 people, I think). Oh yeah, get this...Megadeth is throwing us all a New Years' Eve party in Tucson with Machine Head and Life of Agony. I LOVE ARIZONA!!! "Old school metal is alive and well." -John Bush "Headbang like it's nineteen eighty-six." -Phil Anselmo ~Vince ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:43:05 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Daugherty To: Dream Theater Mailing List Subject: 2nd DC show Dec 26 Message-ID: At the web site for Jaxx Nite Club it has Dec 26-Dream Theater down. I just wish the band would say it is official... I did notice that the day before the Fates show, Sebastian Bach is playing. Anyone know who he is on tour with? The next 1 1/2 months should be good concert wise for the DC area... Nov 23:DT at capital ballroom Nov 28-30:Powermad festival in Baltimore Dec 12:Fates at Daytonas Dec 13:Fates/Division at Jaxx Dec 26:DT at Jaxx (unconfirmed by DT, confirmed by Jaxx) |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty email_address_removed | |===================================================================| | Washington Redskins 6-4 | | Upon the murder scene of a NY Yankee fan at Camden Yards: | | "I didn't know that was illegal in Baltimore"-Munch on Homicide | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:48:14 -0600 From: Cappy To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: New I Mother Earth News. Message-ID: On Thu, Nov 13, 1997 at 11:01:35AM -0800, Christopher R. Merlo wrote: > > > Okay Kids! This is it! The news you've all been waiting patiently > > for! That's right, we've found our new singer. > > > >Sorry we can't tell you any specific details at the moment but he's > >definitely the right guy. > > Oh, God, I hope it's not Sammy Hagar or something. :) How 'bout Charlie Dominici? heh heh.... ;) -- Mike Jones, email_address_removed __________ Cappy _________ email_address_removed ProgMetal.Org - Progressive Metal Web http://www.progmetal.org Fates Warning Mailing List ( // ) http://www.progmetal.org/fateswarning ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:51:43 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Pat Sullivan) To: email_address_removed Subject: re: ***My Opinions Message-ID: > In such context FII is a musical regress: lack of killing melodies > (guitar's an vocal's) Whoa....for a minute I saw "harmonies" instead of "melodies" and I was ready to pounce. :) But to be truthful, I don't see your point - and I don't see how you would view that as a "regression". For the band to regress to something, they would have to have done it before. I hear nothing on FII that DT has done before. > weak work of keys, Then you must be listening to a different version of FII than me. I hear great lead key work on BMS and ToT, and just great lead/background stuff on JLMB and LITS (everyone suffering from acronym overload yet? :)) Like D-Man, I find myself playing "air keys" to this album a lot, which is particularly dangerous when I'm driving. > conventional ballads (just like The Beatles' or R.Marx'S ones ;), Once again, what is the problem with the band writing ballads. This album is very emotional. If you write a song with "soft" emotion, you don't end up with BMS, right? So yes, there are ballads on the album...there are also quite a few ass-kickin' moments as well. > some problems with arrangement (esp. in "Peruvian Skies" and "Trial Of Tears") I can't really reply to this, since you don't point out the alleged errors or the qualifications that enable you to determine that they are, in fact, errors. You are absolutely entitled to not the this album. I know many people that were disappointed with it, and for the most part, we just agree to disagree. Personally, I am slowly coming to believe that for me, this is *the* best DT album. But if you are going to make personal observations about the album and call them facts, you can expect some, err, "polite dissention" from me. :) ----- _____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________________ E-mail: (psull)-(at)-(ici)-(dot)-(net) IRC: DDictator WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html NP: Dream Theater - "Falling Into Infinity" ______________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:55:27 -0500 (EST) From: Syrinx To: A Ytse Besides Itself Subject: Yep, it's the time to vote! Message-ID: Hello, all! It's that time of the year again. It's time to pick your top 5 releases of the year. Last year we had over 300 people from the ytsejam who picked their favorites and i hope to have that many responces this time. DIRECTIONS: email me (either respond to this or email me at the address below) with your top 5 CD's of 1997. THIS MEANS: the cd MUST have been released in 1997. Any Mike Bahr CD released in 1997 counts. Hell, ANY CD counts - but it has to have been released this year. Send them to me with the subject: ytsejam top 5 - and we'll be on our way. HOW THE SCORES WORK. You send your top 5 IN ORDER of how you want them. For every 1st place vote, that CD gets 5 points. For 2nd place, 4 point, and etc. For example, this is what I picked for last year's top 5: 1. I Mother Earth - Scenary And Fish (this got 5 points) 2. Tool - Aenima (this got 4 points) 3. Rush - Test For Echo (this got 3 points) 4. Lemur Voice - Insights (this got 2 points) 5. Swamp Terrorists - Killer (this got 1 point) seem easy? it is! so, send your choices away. THIS WILL BE VALID UNTIL DECEMBER 31, 1997. * * * * * * * e-mail: email_address_removed / email_address_removed erotomania!: http://www.mindspring.com/~syrinx/ offical lemur voice homepage: http://www.mindspring.com/~syrinx/lemur.htm (c) 1997 Happy Fun Ball, Inc. All Rights Reserved. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 21:28:18 +0000 From: Jon Parmet To: Ytsejam Subject: Objective overrruled! BWAHAHAHAHAH Message-ID: > I remember that one of Ytsejammers wrote, several weeks ago, > that he was afraid of new DT's album (contrary to lots of hopeful > opinions about approaching DT's CD other memebers of our list) Afraid? Fear is a powerful emotion, which can cloud one's judgement. > He noticed that DT gradually depreciating its standard. One or two :) Persoanlly, I'm not too worried what other people think of my musical tastes. Therefore, there is nothing to admit, except, perhaps that they are continuing to uphold my standards (of a high degree of professionalism in their music). There's a good reason a certain guitar magazine wants JP to write articles again. There's a good reason MP is prominently displayed in a certain drumming magazine. The rest of the world (meaning outside yours :) apparently recognizes them as upholding some sort of pretty fucking high standard! Perhaps DT is just not meeting YOUR standard. I highly doubt they are failing to meet their own, if no one elses :) In any event, it is quite fortunate that there are MANY people who absolutely love the new stuff. They don't need to waste time worrying about whether they are being objective about anything: They're too busy just enjoying it!!! Perhaps their next release will win you back, then? > Unfortunately, one should admit that He's right :( I'm sorry you are "very disappointed" with this one. It's your right. Many, quite simply, are not. I won't attempt to get you to admit you're wrong, if you promise not to admit I'm right. I know you'll hold up Context, shmontext. Have a nice day :) -- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | email_address_removed | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------* "Funny feeling, everything's gonna be allright now!" -- One of them there, uh, 'hopeful' groups. Yeah, that's the ticket! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:42:18 -0500 (EST) From: Lars Hellsten To: email_address_removed Subject: Shadow Gallery Message-ID: Now that I've got wads of spare cash, I finally ordered SG's "Carved in Stone". Got it a couple weeks ago, and have had time to digest it... I know people have posted countless reviews of SG before, but I just HAVE to share my thoughts... WOW!! This CD totally blew me away. Not on the first listen (I was actually a little disappointed at first... but that was because I had been listening to FII for a month straight, and the two are so different), but the last couple of weeks it's grown on me, and lately I've been listening to it non-stop. In fact, I like it better than FII (which hasn't been aging as well with me as Awake/ACOS/I&W did). Really the only thing that's lacking a bit is the drumming. IMHO, the drummer sucks (all he does is play fast, and use a lot of double-bass - BFD)... the drumming is rather boring and uncreative. And the guitarist can definitely shred, but I wish some of his playing was a bit more tasteful. BUT... the vocals and keyboard work on this album are just so FUCKING INCREDIBLE that I'm able to completely overlook those things. I love the huge classical influence in their music, a something DT seem to be (unfortunately) straying away from... almost all of the other prog-rock bands I've heard who've tried to incorporate a lot of classical sounding stuff into their music have failed abysmally IMO (Yngwie and Savatage are two that come to mind), but SG are just awesome! A lot of the other prog bands I've checked out that have been mentioned here, such as Ivanhoe, Echolyn, etc. I found were either just DT wannabes, or didn't like at all. But this stuff is just some awesome shit. Anyway, if you haven't checked out SG yet, and songs like Eve, WFS, OAMOT, the original ACOS, TKH, etc. are among your favourite DT songs, I'd highly recommend SG... ie, don't be like me, and get off your butt and spare no expense to get your hands on it! BTW, am I the only one who didn't realize for like 2 weeks that there's actually music on the last track? :) After hearing nothing for 2-3 minutes the first time I was liistning to the CD, I just skipped to something else, and since then I had always assumed there was nothing there... ** Lars Hellsten (email_address_removed.ca) ** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:46:41 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: I&W songs/To Live Forever Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Joshua B. Wingell wrote: > But I have never seen them play my 3 favorite songs live. > Surrounded, Wait For Sleep, and Learning To Live! > > Have they ever played these songs live (well, I know Surrounded > is on LATM)? Are there any boots of these songs live? Yes. The famous ones contaning these songs are: - The Dance of Eternity; - Lost in the Sky; - Lords of Sound. Well, it's interesting that I thought that I knew much more boots with these songs, but I just can't remember more bootlegs... BTW, there's also the "Live in Tokyo" video with WFS "connected" with Surrounded (aha! no acronyms here! :-) ). > Am I just unlucky? :) I think so. :-) Well, in fact, I saw they perform Learning to Live here in Brazil, on 9/12. It was incredible (one of my preferred songs). And it was also amazing to see they playing the new "extended" Metropolis. > Thanks, > Josh BTW2, I just saw a video from the I&W tour (Warfield, I think -- it was on 5/Jun/93, with the Galatic Cowboys) where they played "To Live Forever" with yet another ending solo (funny that James forgets the name of the song). Do you know how many ending soloes did this song have?? I know at least three (the one from this video, one from Mike Bahr's "When Dream and Today Unite" and one from the "Live in Tokyo" video). I think that I'll put all these versions together... :-) BTW3, could you people with contacts with the band ask them to put "To Live Forever" on their setlist. I think that many people might be interested in hearing this song (you know, D-Man loves the harmonies :-) ). Hope this helps, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:53:42 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Newbie Alert! Message-ID: Hello. I'm new to the list. I just subscribed this morning, but I got a digest. Is there any way to switch from the digest to a regular version with e-mail messages? I would prefer that to a text file every day. Well, I'm a fairly new Dream Theater fan. I just got into them in July, when I spied a friend who works at the same summer camp as I did's copy of "Awake" in his CD collection. The band's name intrigued me from the start, as did the song lengths. I know, I'm a stats junkie, but still: it impressed me. I initially thought they were a neo-hippie band, but I was soon proven wrong. We had our weekly pizza night, and he brought up his CD player, so I asked him to play Dream Theater, because I had never heard them before. The first DT song I heard was 6:00, and I was a little surprised by the style, frankly, having expected hippie jams. (I once made the same mistake with Soundgarden) I loved it, though. I bought Images and Words a week later, since that was the one with the earliest copyright date. (I usually like to go chronologically when buying a band's CDs) Originally, I thought it was a little too 80's hair metal, but it soon grew on me. Liking Jethro Tull, I got into the prog-rock aspect of it right away. I borrowed the aforementioned friend's copy of Awake and listened to it the whole way through, and I was blown away! Such instrumental (and vocal) skill! Such songwriting prowess! I knew I had to buy it as soon as possible, and I did. I posted a message to alt.music.dream-theater regarding A Change Of Seasons, and it was pretty much unanimously recommended, so I got that, too. I loved the half-concept album. I, of course, heard rumblings about a new Dream Theater album, and pledged to get that, too. So, here I am! ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3237 **************************