YTSEJAM Digest 3233 Today's Topics: 1) Re: TOWHTSTS by jOHN jENS 2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3232 by Jim Suplizio 3) RE: "Cookies" Murphy and Death by "Blevins, Mike" 4) Nightmare Cinema Review by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 5) RE: HELP : I need a good tab editor !!! by "Vaughn, Brandon" 6) Demo *for* berkeley by Stephen Dedalus 7) Two responses by "Tedesco, Matthew" 8) UNCLASSIFIED:-Re: SDV live by email_address_removed.au 9) Re: NDTC space, the final frontier by Zathras live for the One -- but no One hears 10) Re: TOWHTSTS by Shai Yallin 11) Re: fee by Zathras live for the One -- but no One hears 12) strings, JM's humor by Anna & Heike Boedeker 13) you've got it all wrong..... by "Partha S. Mukhopadhyay" 14) ADA MP-1 Preamp inquiry (NDTC) by Brian Wherry 15) Re: Two responses by Eric Rodger 16) Re: Charlie's addy by email_address_removed 17) metropol by email_address_removed (Cathy Tobrey) 18) Re: FII="fee" by "Christopher Files" 19) Power Mad Fest by Kevin Madden 20) UNCLASSIFIED:-Re: Two responses by email_address_removed.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:42:31 -0600 (CST) From: jOHN jENS To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: TOWHTSTS Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Jim Beavens wrote: | -- Jim (who sometimes has to chuckle at these acronyms. Is there anyone | else who gets tired of thinking of the new album as 'fee'? ;) nope. it's "eff two" as in the roman numeral II. man, i bet Portnoy and the boys are getting a massive kick out of these threads: acronyms and spaces after periods... i'm still workin on getting that BassFrontiers article (i *knew* i should have just bought it). j O H N j j e n s @ s h e l l . w e b z o n e . n e t E N S s h e l l . w e b z o n e . n e t / ~ j j e n s / ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:59:32 -0500 From: Jim Suplizio To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3232 Message-ID: Ryan Good wrote: > Now hold on a minute. > John Arch might not have sounded good with Dream Theater, but if you listen > to The Spector Within or Awaken the Guardian by Fates Warning (ATG is their > best with Arch) I promise you will not think John Arch is crap. He deserves > alot of praise for the work he did with FW. There is really no one with his > style, and the melodies and harmonies he sings are outta this world. > Give the man a chance. Check out The Guardian..it's a great tune! I agree, older Fates Warning with Arch is incredible. His voice might not be at the same level as JLB but it was darn good for the music at the time. Beg, borrow or steal a copy of Awaken the Guardian or Night On Broken and give it an honest listen and you'll see that Arch has a definate style of his own. Jim -- "We are all books of blood, as soon as we're open we're red" --Clive Barker ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:09:17 -0500 From: "Blevins, Mike" To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: RE: "Cookies" Murphy and Death Message-ID: >>Okay, ex-member of Testament, Obituary, Cancer, and maybe another band? >>Also formed his own band, Disincarnate, who released an album in 1993, I >>believe. >He was also in "Death" for two albums & I he is definitely now in "Konkhra". >I am curious about his solo album. Any good?? >>For ANY releases James Murphy, Alex Scolnick, Greg Christian, Gene Hoglan, >>or any other ex-Testament member was on, I need catalogue numbers, >>countries of release, track and band listings. >The Death albums are "Spirtual Healing" & "Human". I can get cat no's/track >lists/band members if you like. Actually, James was only in Death for "Spiritual Healing". The lead work on "Human" was handled by the (vastly superior, IMO - not that James isn't a good player) then Cynic - man Paul Masvidal. He was also in Agent Steel and Hallow's Eve, but I'm not sure if he ever recorded anything with either... Mike NP: Vicious Rumors - S/T. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:12:04 -0800 From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Nightmare Cinema Review Message-ID: Ok, Nightmare Cinema played to a sold out set at the House of Blues last night, it was great... :) Got to meet a couple of jammers, can't remember their names.... I got to talk to the man himself, Kevin Moore. :) He said he's shopping for a record contract. Under A Glass Moon was played instead of TAMP last night, awesome shit. This spitting contest between Labrie and Portnoy was interesting. Petrucci should loosen up on drums... :) -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: email_address_removed #$%#$#$% _+_+_+_+ Unix, Internet, Intranet Engineering _+_+_+_+ [][][][] Dr. Mosh's Progressive Feast [][][][] #$@#$#@# http://progmetal.gmsnet.com @#$@##@$ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:28:13 -0600 From: "Vaughn, Brandon" To: email_address_removed Subject: RE: HELP : I need a good tab editor !!! Message-ID: <41303F74D60DD111B56500609778A79C0686B1@chipola.cc.fl.us> >I need a good tab editor. Can anybody help me ? >My friend (who has made the tabs for FII) use a shareware editor which totally >sucks. It's very hard to work with it, so can anybody help me to get a better >tab editor ? I found two programs that I like a lot, and used when doing the ACOS TAB Project. One is called Bucket O'Tab. It allows you to do 7-string TAB, and enables you to input time sigs. It can export as ASCII TAB and does a good job of importing ASCII TAB. It is shareware, and well worth buying (in my opinion). Don't know if that is the program you were using, but it is one of the easiest around. The other is called MusEdit, and I've just started playing around with it. It enables you to do presentation quality TAB very easily. You can put in the TAB and have it automatically put the music notes, or vice versa. Or just do music. Or just do TAB. Very nice program. It won't do 7-string TAB though. You can find the addresses for both sites at the ACOS Project page at: http://www.getaway.net/khammer/acos/ I don't know of any freeware programs. They all are pretty lame to me. These two are worth your money though (and the guys who sell the program really need all the support they can get!). The nice thing about either program is that you can provide the Bucket or MusEdit files along with the ASCII TAB for people. That way, those with the program can print out a nicer quality TAB than just ASCII. Check them out! And looking forward to your TAB! The Mad Tabber ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:55:45 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Dedalus To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Demo *for* berkeley Message-ID: What I wana know is if we can get our hands on the audition tapes of JP, DS, JM, and MP. Wouldn't that rock? I'd want to see just how far JP's come. I want to know what songs they played, if anything. No one offereed me a ticket for any price. I won't be seeing DT. (: Nobody likes me, everybody hates me, guess I'll go eat lunch. Be well. Matt B "No man is an island? Pok. Rubbish! Every one of us is an island. If it were not so, we should go mad at once. Between these islands are ships; airplanes; telephones; wireless; what you will, but they remain islands. Islands that can sink or disappear forever." (John Fowles, The Magus) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:53:00 -0500 From: "Tedesco, Matthew" To: email_address_removed Subject: Two responses Message-ID: Hi all-- (About TOWHTSTS) ]From KAI: >Isn't it obvious? It's "The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun". Ouch. Poor guy asks a question, so it wasn't obvious to him, right? No need for that... ]From Jim: >Well, duh. =) It's just what it says it is. Here, pronounce it out >loud with me: >Toowahatstis And I love how they carry the theme in the next song, Oh-Maht, Toowahatstis' fiercest rival and the great Mayan slayer. (That's OAMOT, that whacky song about some guy in a risky suit going to the back of the line, or something like that) =) --MATt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:11:54 +1000 From: email_address_removed.au To: email_address_removed Subject: UNCLASSIFIED:-Re: SDV live Message-ID: >Exactly. That's why I was so curious when I saw a URL for some guy's >page on alt.music.dream-theater claiming to have an .mp3 of SDV live. >Well, when I downloaded it, not only wasn't it a live version of SDV, it >wasn't even DT! It was the version that was recorded for the tribute >album that hasn't yet seen the light of day. Yeah I went and downloaded this alleged live version SDV, this MP3 is the Kevin Moore demo, the same version that is also found on the 'Uncovered' boot.I believe the vocal is KM too. graham ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:08:47 -0500 (EST) From: Zathras live for the One -- but no One hears To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: NDTC space, the final frontier Message-ID: You can use three spaces for all i care you can put each sentence on its own line and who gives a fuck about punctuation, just like dt lyrics it's communication. who gives a fuck? the only person who will really care is if you try to submit a manuscript. manuscript form is still two spaces after a sentence ender. for the benefit of typesetters, i think. because i think it will be another century or two before magazines and publishers accept electronic submissions ... and by that time the technology will exist to download it directly from your brain, but they'll want 7 bit ASCII. "O dulcissime amator, o dulcissime amplexator, ...nos desideramus ardenter te sequi, ... quod tu desideres gemmam requirere in putredine." --Hildegard von Bingen //// A testament: http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 23:13:48 +0300 From: Shai Yallin To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: TOWHTSTS Message-ID: Christopher R. Merlo wrote: > I never thought of it as "fee," but I still call it "eff-eye-eye." > Even out loud. :) Me too. Does anybody else pronounce WDADU as "WA-DA-DOO"? ;-) -------- Regarding the two spaces after a period: I had no idea this is how you are supposed to type in English. I think I'll stick with one space. (that's better than how my English teacher writes - no spaces after commas and peroids) Richard A. Rivera wrote: > Listen to the verse after the guitar solo in BMS. I've never heard > him sing like that. Well, I love the vocals on BMS, but I don't know what verse you are talking about - there's no guitar solo on BMS... Take it easy - everyone thinks it's guitar. -- Shai Yallin - Kurush on #YTSEJAM "I'm American, honey. Our names don't mean shit." - Bruce Willis on Pulp Fiction "How can you keep your head and not go insane when the only light at the end of the tunnel is another train" - Mike Portnoy Visit my home page at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3247 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:16:00 -0500 (EST) From: Zathras live for the One -- but no One hears To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: fee Message-ID: > -- Jim (who sometimes has to chuckle at these acronyms. Is there anyone > else who gets tired of thinking of the new album as 'fee'? ;) In the cool shade of the banana tree On the rugged trail toward popularity A band of the twentieth century A shrunk down tour and an album named FII "O dulcissime amator, o dulcissime amplexator, ...nos desideramus ardenter te sequi, ... quod tu desideres gemmam requirere in putredine." --Hildegard von Bingen //// A testament: http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:43:01 +0100 From: Anna & Heike Boedeker To: email_address_removed Subject: strings, JM's humor Message-ID: >I can handle .009's perfectly well, thank you! :-) Tsk, tsk! Most of the folks who use nines probably do so b/c it really allows for better bending b/c if you can control it better you're also more in tune :-) If it wasn't for this I'd probably play .013s (on a 25 1/2" scale, a 24" won't count :-)) like SRV b/c they sound better, provide more tuning stability and hardly ever break... I mean it's less about the .013 high E but the .056 low E :-| >006. or 007.'s would be the cauge needed for a high A on the Universe. Geez... where does this all this fascination w/ high As come from? >Many years ago, I tried a set of 008's. I had two problems, the >first one was that the strings are too soft, the second was that the >1st string broke almost at once. (I mean, if you eyeball it, it'll >bend, I swear.) :-) 8-) Good reason to change your strings real often... :-\ But then, what is more important, did you really like the sound??? >However, a high A could be used for straight tapping stuff. I Ok... this answers my above question plausibly... >believe Jennifer Batten has one guitar set up with 008.'s and a >scalloped fretboard, used for tapping only. Dunno... Holdsworth once told in some interview years ago he was using .008s w/a Steinberg and some other guitar into this direction... I mean, I can imagine if you use a high-quality guitar, have it meticulously set up... depending on your technique you could still use it for playing w/a pick, though... >BTW, has anybody tried out the Wahburn 36-fret-guitar?, and, does Oops... I didn't even know that it existed so far... >anybody out there recommend scalloped fretboards? Yeah... but only depending on *your* technique (I was kinda used to the overall approach from playing sitar -- though it has a scale longer than a bass [!!] and the string [tuned to "Ma"] you mostly use is really thin, and accordingly *lax* in tension...) ... it's a step further from just using real large frets, it faciliates bending, and also playing faster, but if you press the strings too hard you're unevitably out of tune, and you may find playing chords somewhat harder in the beginning... is this what you expected from it? >Next Myung interpretation: "Lifting Shadows Off of Big Gay Al's Big Gay >Animal Farm" ... IROTFLMAO :-) I should take some classes in literature w/you!!! Probably the Silent Man has got more humor than usually attributed to him so far, but as we know, still waters run deep :-) Looking forward, Heike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:01:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Partha S. Mukhopadhyay" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: you've got it all wrong..... Message-ID: > -- Jim (who sometimes has to chuckle at these acronyms. Is there anyone > else who gets tired of thinking of the new album as 'fee'? ;) it's "Fie", darnit.....two I's, that's the key..... (now all we need are people who do it "fo" and "fum", and we're off to fairy tale land......) (can you tell I've had no sleep whatsoever???) partha mountains come out of the sky, and stand there......... yes ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:12:39 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Wherry To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: ADA MP-1 Preamp inquiry (NDTC) Message-ID: I know there are several guitarists on this list.... Anyone have an MP-1 and have some good patches? Please email me. Thanks! Brian email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:31:36 -0500 From: Eric Rodger To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Two responses Message-ID: >(About TOWHTSTS) > >]From KAI: >>Isn't it obvious? It's "The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun". > >Ouch. Poor guy asks a question, so it wasn't obvious to him, right? No >need for that... It was saracasm meant in jest. Sorry you didn't take it that way. KAI ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:07:32 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Charlie's addy Message-ID: In a message dated 97-11-12 15:34:39 EST, you write: > AOL demands that at least one of the characters in your user/password is a > number. seriously not true. if i had to guess why theres a 1 on the end it would either have to represent him being the 1st ex for DT (i think he was the first) or because somone had already used XDTVOC... maybe i should ask him next time hes on... ~Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:40:12 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Cathy Tobrey) To: Subject: metropol Message-ID: is any one going to the concert in pittsburgh?? i want to know if there is an age limit i heard you had to be 18 this concert should be about great amusic not about beer sales ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:50:48 -0500 From: "Christopher Files" To: Subject: Re: FII="fee" Message-ID: <01bcefc5$ccd46a80$65fbaccf@default> >> -- Jim (who sometimes has to chuckle at these acronyms. Is there anyone >> else who gets tired of thinking of the new album as 'fee'? ;) > >I never thought of it as "fee," but I still call it "eff-eye-eye." Even out >loud. :) I think of it as "fie", as used in Shakespeare's writings. Eg., "Oh fie, fie, that DT should have put YNM on a perfectly good album. Fie on't!" =) -Topher ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:50:09 -0500 From: Kevin Madden To: email_address_removed Subject: Power Mad Fest Message-ID: I sent in my application for tickets today, so, yes, I am going. I also got my DT ticket for the Ballroom show on the 23rd. Life is good. It would be better if my Acoustic Spirits cd would show up! CD of the Day: Anacrusis - Screams and Whispers Green Bay Packers - The Quest to Repeat - Detroit Red Wings 8-2 12-4-3 at Colts vs Senators Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:18:12 +1000 From: email_address_removed.au To: email_address_removed Subject: UNCLASSIFIED:-Re: Two responses Message-ID: >Ouch. Poor guy asks a question, so it wasn't obvious to him, right? No >need for that... >It was saracasm meant in jest. Sorry you didn't take it that way. >KAI Yep someone needs to invent a sarcasm key and real soon too :) As for the original question, any DT fan worth his salt should know what 'TOWHTSTS' is, unless you are a johnny-come-lately/charlie-hater jammer :) Anyone (D-Man ?) got any 'inside' information on what the Fan Club CD's contenets will be ? graham.. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3233 **************************