YTSEJAM Digest 3141 Today's Topics: 1) Mahavishnu/Kansas, St. Louis, Metro II by "Brown, Neal Patrick" 2) Re: Jeremy Spoke by email_address_removed 3) Jaxx by Pat Daugherty 4) That's how the system works by "Matt Mommaerts (Fox 47)" 5) Jaxx show CONFIRMED! by Ryan Andrew Park 6) Is that guy wearing a blouse.....revisted by John Gilbert 7) Re: Bootlegs and my apology to Nick Bogovich by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 8) Re: That's how the system works by The Phoenix 9) Re: Tortune by Albert Balkiewicz 10) Re: Is that guy wearing a blouse.....revisted by Mark Jeffrey McEuen 11) Clarifications and Preaching the Converted by "Jeremy C. Hallum" 12) Hey now... by Michael Bahr 13) YtseContact update by "Brian Hayden" 14) Chicago Show by "Todd O. Klindt" 15) New Haven by Michael Burstin 16) Finally by "Ryan P. Skadberg" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:08:57 CST From: "Brown, Neal Patrick" To: Subject: Mahavishnu/Kansas, St. Louis, Metro II Message-ID: Somebody made a post about the Mahavishnu Orchestra doing the same fantastic unison riffs that DT is known for...hell yeah, One Word is one fuckin wild song...Imagine a bunch of jazz musicians (guitar, bass, drums, keys, violin!) experimenting with electric instruments and prog rock...These guys are as fast as anybody you can think of and it's mostly pretty upbeat stuff...the late great Miles Davis contributed a tune to the Birds of Fire album...Kansas does some of those same things, but they're a little less jazzy and a little more symphonic than Mahavishnu.... DT is now not coming to St. Louis in 97...damn....oh well.... Regarding Metropolis II: anybody know anything about it other than it's going to be "insane"? ;) I mean, what else is going to be on the EP (li ve shit? outtakes from FII? songs cut from FII? more of the Uncovered show??)? When is the band going to record it, and when will it be released? Here's to immaturity. =P ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:11:52 -0700 (MST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Jeremy Spoke Message-ID: Ahhhhhhh, back to the good ol' Ytsejam. :) Anyhoo, are there any guesses on how long it's gonna take for one of 'em new DT videos to air on any sort of medium? I know MTV's been so generous to everything outside of the alternative/rap/fake R&B genres (aka synthetic R&B for those who feel offended by the word "fake" and feel it should be removed from the English dictionary). :P And, after chatting with him on IRC...I hope you're still doin' it buddy... AZ jammers might be interested in emailing Mike Kizer, he's compiling a list of AZ emails so we can communicate better. This might catch all the jammers that we haven't contacted out here yet.... I think his email's on Under a Cyber Moon's Ytseweb page. There's an unconfirmed rumor that some Arizona Ytsejammers who wish to stay anonymous are planning to crash into the California state, around the San Diego area. Scientists report that this strange phenomenon may be due to an unpredicted cancelling of a Tempe tour date. Footage at 5. ~Eckie hopes he can get the cash ready in time, and hopes that his boss will let him miss another day of work...it's hard enough for him to believe I have two funerals to attend in this upcoming week, and a DT show in CA (AND I JUST STARTED WORKING THERE! ARGH!)...damn this is my biggest sig yet! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:47:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty To: Dream Theater Mailing List Subject: Jaxx Message-ID: Merlo wrote: >What a kickass idea! Who's up for hosting a YtseGathering after the Jaxx >show? (I would, but I live 3 hours away. It's a little inconvenient.) I was thinking, hey Mike Blevins lives at Jaxx, (well close enough) and then... Mike Blevins wrote: >I might be convinced to do so, depending on how many attendee's we're >going to have, and which day it comes out on... I live about 10 minutes >away. Ok, Mike nominates himself... |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty email_address_removed | |===================================================================| | Washington Redskins 4-3 | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:59:36 -0500 From: "Matt Mommaerts (Fox 47)" To: email_address_removed Subject: That's how the system works Message-ID: >Dream Theater will start the second leg of the Touring Into Infinity tour >sometime in 1998. No one (not even me) knows where they will go. Get your >radio stations to play DT a lot, and maybe you'll get lucky. (That's how the >system works.) Worked in Madison, WI. WJJO here plays BMS a LOT, and whoa, look, a tentative date in St. Louis got changed to Madison. So, that's true... you get a big station to play them, the big station will bring the band to town. Now I wonder what the next single will be... I'm guessing that it'll be YNM, or TAMP. I stick to the heavier ones on my show...(considering it IS a metal radio show) Matt M. email_address_removed Personal: http://www.inxpress.net/~mattymo Mosh Pit: http://www.inxpress.net/~mattymo/moshpit ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:08:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan Andrew Park To: email_address_removed Subject: Jaxx show CONFIRMED! Message-ID: Hello! I've got good news and bad news. I just got off the phone with the people at Jaxx in Springfield, VA. They have finalized and confirmed the DT concert. It's going to be on Friday, December 26th (yes, the day after Christmas), tickets are $25, and the show is 21+. As far as I'm concerned, that's bad news: I'm going to be in Iowa during my school's Winter Break! (It's double-bad-news, because it's 21+ and I'm only 18. Which means that if they play around here on the second leg -- or play Jaxx again -- it's likely to be 21+ as well...) So if anyone's planning on making the trek from Washington, D.C. to any other shows and wants someone to help pay for gas... let me know. (My schedule's REALLY tight so I probably wouldn't be able to go too far, though...) Ryan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:55:32 -0400 From: John Gilbert To: email_address_removed Subject: Is that guy wearing a blouse.....revisted Message-ID: Listen to 1:13 on jlmb in the right speaker..... Now this is a valid claim because on dreamt.org irc, id agrees with me, so dammit...i dont know why others can't make it out! oh well.....maybe someone else will agree and back me up here too :) john gilbert jg on dreamt.org http://home1.gte.net/mawyatt <----some kick ass page? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:34:33 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Bootlegs and my apology to Nick Bogovich Message-ID: On the Eve of Destruction, Jim Suplizio said: > >correcting me. The letter was originally written >because there are lots of albums out there that >bands don't know about that record stores are making >small fortunes off of and the bands don't see a cent. Are you just jealous cause you don't have any? Or too poor to get some? In case you forgot how to read... we freely trade bootlegs around here. Mike Portnoy is a trader himself... If you've got a problem about it, go bitch somewhere else. Thanks for playing, you lost... -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: email_address_removed #$%#$#$% _+_+_+_+ Unix, Internet, Intranet Engineering _+_+_+_+ [][][][] Dr. Mosh's Progressive Feast [][][][] #$@#$#@# http://progmetal.gmsnet.com @#$@##@$ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:42:21 -0500 (CDT) From: The Phoenix To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: That's how the system works Message-ID: Matt Mommaerts wrote: > Now I wonder what the next single will be... I'm guessing that it'll > be YNM, or TAMP. I stick to the heavier ones on my show...(considering it > IS a metal radio show) I also think TAMP could make for a good single. Now I live in a college dorm and people are always in my room to play my video games. So, what do I do? I play FII repeatedly. And of all the kids who have heard it, they each have different tastes in music from mine and from each other in some cases. And there are a couple who really like TAMP and some who really like HY. Another likes BMS, and one kid said he feels obligated to buy the disc since he has heard it so much that it's engrained in his soul! Anyway, I do find it somewhat interesting that it's DT's mellower songs that they tend to comment on. Especially since none of these guys really listen to mellow music. Any thoughts as to why? -~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_- | Robert Taylor The world may seem flown away | | email_address_removed Almost as if it cannot be saved | | The Phoenix Will we be able to rise | | From these ashes we've sown | -~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:47:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Balkiewicz To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Tortune Message-ID: > > > As for Jeremy C. Hallum, I can tell by your post that > > you're a jerk and no little jerk at that. May you slide > > under a moving gas truck and choke to death on your own > > blood. > > Under a moving gas truck? Huh? I always thought "May you die on > your own blade." was a much better death wish. Or "May you accidently > fall into a swimming pool of broken glass and drown." I guess that's a sign > that the inventiveness has fallen out of the older generation. (Excluding > Jon Parmet of course.) > Actually, the correct quote, from the late Sam Kinison, is: " I hope you slide under a gas truck and taste your own blood, DIE....DIE......DIE....I want my records back...I WANT MY RECORDS BACK>!!!!!!!!!" Now let's get it straight, please.... :P -Al -- ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ I inhale the sun...........I exhale the absence of light I am the number One..........burning. ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ email: email_address_removed email_address_removed HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:47:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Jeffrey McEuen To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Is that guy wearing a blouse.....revisted Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, John Gilbert wrote: > Listen to 1:13 on jlmb in the right speaker..... > > Now this is a valid claim because on dreamt.org irc, id agrees with me, > so dammit...i dont know why others can't make it out! > > oh well.....maybe someone else will agree and back me up here too :) Sorry, no such luck :). I just listened to it two or three times on my headphones, and to me it sounds like someone (MP?) saying "Step right up, folks." And it happens right after James sings "Step right up, folks," so I'm reasonably convinced that I'm hearing it correctly. Mark McEuen email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 19:49:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jeremy C. Hallum" To: "Yzerjam: the Mailing list for DT/Red Wing Fans Worldwide" Subject: Clarifications and Preaching the Converted Message-ID: > From: "Blevins, Mike" > Subject: FAQ Question.... > > Are instructions for acquiring the "Wire Brush Of Knowledge" in the FAQ? > Seems like that would be a survival tool around here... > > Jeremy, can you help with this? :) I just changed brand names. The Shredder brand Wire Brush of Knowledge (tm) looks to be 150% more effective on the clueless than all other brands. Brought to you by Blammo (tm). If that's not your style, there is the Nail Studded Clue Bat (tm), which is for those of the clueless who REALLY don't get it. > ------------------------------ > From: "Christopher W. Ptacek" > Subject: Jeremy Spoke (rather prophetically) > > > just increased the noise > > level of this list with your pitiful cries. > > How could YOU POSSIBLY say this? Re read your post, big guy. Note that I didn't say WHO was going to increase the noise, only that it would increase. As KJLB would say, "Read my post again, eh?" Note you (and I in responding) are increasing the noise level just by continuing this. I think those lines are very prophetic, don't you? > I don't like writing posts like this anymore. Well, then, don't. His attitude pissed me off, he got the clue (rather quickly, I might add), and its over (he and I both consider it so). Perhaps you should do the same. -jeremy +=====================================================================+ # grad student, Boston U. # "You've seen our Moon, # # Boston, MA 02134 # Now see our Johnson!" # # Astronomy # -seen on T-shirts all over Vikingland # #<*> Jeremy Hallum <*># referring to QBs W. Moon and B. Johnson # #<*> email_address_removed <*># Bleeding Purple since the tender age of 6.# #<*>email_address_removed <*># http://bu-ast.bu.edu/~jhallum/ # +=====================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:52:21 -0700 From: Michael Bahr To: email_address_removed Subject: Hey now... Message-ID: Ease down on Jim, folks, really... we've all done crazy stuff on the Jam when we first subscribed... I can't think of what _I_ did exactly, since it was so long ago, but I'm sure we'd all laugh at it really hard today. I probably posted about fifty top-ten lists to start things off, then added in some commentary on religion, politics, abortion, etc. :) Anyway I got _only_ 142 new mails this morning, so I guess a few people saw the announcement about CDs... heh!! You all RULE!!! -- -Mike Bahr/Prism Records email_address_removed -http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 97 19:26:57 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" To: email_address_removed Subject: YtseContact update Message-ID: Well, the YtseContact list has finally been updated again. Sorry for the lag, school got a little crazy with a bunch of exams all at once. Anyway, it's still at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/3771/dt.html and the recently confirmed dates have been added as of tonight. Thanks to everyone who's signed-in, the response has been great and keeps on growing! To those who haven't: What are you waiting for!? =) -Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 19:44:52 -0500 From: "Todd O. Klindt" To: email_address_removed Subject: Chicago Show Message-ID: Hi all, If there's gonna be a get together before or after the Chicago show would someone be so kind as to email me the details? I would greatly appreciate it. thanks todd ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:13:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Burstin To: email_address_removed Subject: New Haven Message-ID: Just for those who dont knwo, there will be a large group of us Boston Jammers coming down to the New Haven show... so for those who have not been uhh... exposed to the Boston group, after the show is over, just sorta hang around near the front of the stage, and you are bound to run into some/all of us... I for one will have on one of my Ytsejam shirts, as will probalby at least one more of us... (I think we're at at least 3-4 full cars for the trip)... -- +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ | A daily dose of eMpTyV | Dream Theater | | will flush you mind right down the drain | Falling Into Infinity | | --- taken from: Just Let Me Breathe --- | In Stores NOW!! | +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ Michael Burstin: email_address_removed Oh my God, they've killed Kenny!! http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/ Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:53:24 -0400 From: "Ryan P. 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