YTSEJAM Digest 3130 Today's Topics: 1) SPOILERS: Providence Show by Michael Burstin 2) Petrucci falling off stage? by Brian 3) DT concert in Toronto by "II Stephane Fortin" 4) help by The Phoenix 5) Any info on the WHJY Set? by Ryan Good 6) 2nd LA SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by Conrad Chi 7) *PRomo for DT* by VAIMAN 8) what's happening by "Emiliano " 9) DT FAQ update by "Christopher R. Merlo" 10) All right, another review (hey, its DTC) by "Metzger, Mark" 11) TAMP demo and STM demo lyrics by NightCast 12) Cool pics... by John Gilbert 13) UNCLASSIFIED:-Finding Angra CD's On The Net by email_address_removed.au 14) UNCLASSIFIED:-Re: wtf? by email_address_removed.au 15) Luke by "Parker" 16) No messages for a whole day. by Christopher Bellardine ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:54:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Burstin To: email_address_removed Subject: SPOILERS: Providence Show Message-ID: Wanted to get this posted sooner, but did not have time... Well, some spoilers here, some other stuff. First, for non spoilers... DT did announce at the Provicence show that they would be back for a full show. DT also did manage to get 1.5 hours on stage, rather than the hour they were announcing For the person who asked about problems with the .mp3 files, the problem is the web server not having .mp3 as a proper entry in the mime.types file, and the admin needing to make a change to that file (and probalby send a HUP to the web server) now, for the ***********SPOILERS*************** Well, got back from the show, and what a show it was. Started with New Millenium, which sounded good... Myung had the Stick, which really was a funky looking thing... great sound, though... They played a good deal of FII, but skipped HK/LitS, which is one of my favorites as well as YNM and ToT. The show had no WDADU, and very light on I&W (it was a shortened show, though). They played PMU, UaGM, and closed with Metropolis. Metropolis I think is becoming the permanent encore, with good reasons... you just don't get much better than it for a closer... really gets the crowd going. They expanded out the added jam from the Fix shows, and Metropolis ended up being about a 20 min song by the time they finished... During Just Let Me Breathe, James used a megaphone for some of the lyrics, sorta gave it a different sound than on the CD. One problem I had was that HY was played with electric guitar, and sounded very muffled, would have sounded much better w/ accoustic, IMO. Lets see... what else... well, the moshers were really annoying here, way too many of them... I was close to a pole for part of the show, and was squished against it, but that might be better than having been in a mass of motion, that happened. There was some asshole who decided to run up on stage, and do a cannon ball right into the crowd, right were alot of us were standing, I think most of us made it out of the way, and he almost went straight to the ground, but got some cushioning... Also, some moron tried to climb up on one of us to start crowd surfing, but also go no support, and went straigt down to the ground. It was interesting looking at these moshing morons. They were just sorta standing around with bored looks on their faces when complex songs such as Voices came on... Also, they actually managed to stop during JLMB, and evne Lie, I was soooo happy about that... I kept on tirning around every 10 or 20 seconds, to make sure I wasn't about to be kicked in the head from crowd surfers, and actually saw calmness... Anywa, thats a quick revoiew of the show from my end... -- +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ | A daily dose of eMpTyV | Dream Theater | | will flush you mind right down the drain | Falling Into Infinity | | --- taken from: Just Let Me Breathe --- | In Stores NOW!! | +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ Michael Burstin: email_address_removed Oh my God, they've killed Kenny!! http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/ Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:23:42 -0700 From: Brian To: email_address_removed Subject: Petrucci falling off stage? Message-ID: Hey, everyone, someone found my address on "The Trade" and e-mailed me asking if I had a DT bootleg video where John P fell off the stage and broke his guitar. Anyone ever heard of this before? Irvine Plaza!! Nov 22!! KICK ASS!!! Anyone else going? ======================================================================== "Are you gonna bark all day, little ----- doggie, or are you gonna ---- ------------- ---- bite?"-Micheal Madsen, ---- - ---- Reservoir Dogs -- - - - - - - - -- "Years of pain I will take and hone - - - - - - - Manifest with your broken bones - - -- - -- - - My heart bleeds for none but my -- - - - - - - - -- own"-Machine Head ---- - - - ---- "None But My Own" ---- ------------- ---- Brian ----- email_address_removed ======================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:56:51 -0400 From: "II Stephane Fortin" To: Ytsejam Subject: DT concert in Toronto Message-ID: <344A49E3.BA6872F3@rmc.ca> Hi jammers! I wanted to know if anyone knows if DT are gonna come back to Toronto by '98 for another concert. Stef Le Dragon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:17:46 -0500 (CDT) From: The Phoenix To: email_address_removed Subject: help Message-ID: First, could someone send me the last digest or so because I haven't gotten any messages in ack mode for over 24 hours, unless it just so happens that no one has written to the jam in that long, but I doubt that. Second, is there a kind soul out there who could dub me a tape of the following: Lie CD single Majesty demos Christmas fan club CD from last year I would be forever grateful!!! If you have all these, chances are I might not have anything to trade (but I might), but I would definitely pay for the tape and shipping and everything like that, if a trade could not be arranged. Thank you so much!!! -~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_- | Robert Taylor The world may seem flown away | | email_address_removed Almost as if it cannot be saved | | The Phoenix Will we be able to rise | | From these ashes we've sown | -~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 00:33:05 -0500 From: Ryan Good To: email_address_removed Subject: Any info on the WHJY Set? Message-ID: Just checking out rsabbs. and saw that DT recently played a set in Rhode Island. And info from this set?? _____________________________________________________ "Pessmism protects me; limp hope won't let me down" -Enchant _____________________________________________________ Ryan Good - Music Stapher from WSUM - Madison's idea of College Radio! - The Unofficial-Official Madison Progressive Rock Monster Home - 608-285-8695 Radio - 608-262-1206 "Madison Student Radio: It's coming!" WSUM/MSR Homepage: http://msr.wisc.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:48:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Conrad Chi To: email_address_removed Subject: 2nd LA SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: check todays LA times, another show was added at the Galaxy theater NOV 9 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 14:52:54 -0400 From: VAIMAN To: email_address_removed Subject: *PRomo for DT* Message-ID: >Important request from DT to the fans all over: >Please keep the phone call to your local radio stations coming! >DEMAND to hear Dream Theater. >Let them know there's a record buying audience out there that doesn't >neccessarily >want to hear Bush, Prodigy or No Doubt for the 2000th time. >(Although they'll swear that that's all anybody wants to hear.....) > >Remember, >Tours are booked by interest in a particular market usually based upon radio >play. >If you can get your radio stations to crank DT, chances are that the radio >play will spark enough demand for a gig in the future.... >(That's why the Images & Words tour hit every city in America) > >Carpe Diem, >Mike Portnoy > >------- End of Forwarded Message RIGHT NOW.... yes..this very second. CALL YOUR LOCAL RADIO ROCK STATION AND REQUEST DREAM THEATER. I think I will go out a purchase a second copy of FII. What a good idea. Anyone with me? see ya todd s email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 22:45:39 +0200 From: "Emiliano " To: "ytse jam" Subject: what's happening Message-ID: In the last two days i didn't receive the ytsejam....why?? The last number i have found in my mail box is the 3127...anyone can tell me what's happened? Thanks for your time.... BYE BYE Emiliano ___________________________________ 같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같같 email_address_removed.it ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:09:34 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" To: ytsejam@ax.com, voices@arastar.com Subject: DT FAQ update Message-ID: Hi folks. The DT FAQ has been updated to version 5.03 including ALL confirmed tour dates. This is much more than has been kicked around on Voices. I mailed the dates to Ytsejam, but the list seems to be down, so no one has seen them yet. The FAQ has all the current tour dates. You mirror folks know where to get it. Thanks! -Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough email_address_removed "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates email_address_removed /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:29:01 -0400 From: "Metzger, Mark" To: "'(ytsejam)'" Subject: All right, another review (hey, its DTC) Message-ID: I have one word = "un-fucking-believable" !! Although they had to do a mini setlist, it was still 90 minutes. JP was completely on top of his game. Every time I see him I am more impressed. On at least three occasions, I was left completely in a state of shock. I was probably drooling some serious slobber. It seems as if some jammers seem to take his playing for granted. Every review should open up with "JP rules" !! This is the consummate progressive rock guitar professional playing in a medium which allows him to fully exploit his talents. And remember, he's a nice guy also. Mike was a monster as we have all come to expect. JM = also cool. He played that Chapman Stick thing on NM. Looks really weird and somewhat uncomfortable to play in a live setting but of course he was up to the task. DS kept a somewhat low profile but seemed to be into things. Didn't try to provoke a fight by taunting James. James was basically on for the whole night although he did forgot the words in the middle of Metropolis. Doh !! Not that at work, I dont ever charge out of my office on a "mission" under a full head of steam and promptly forget where the hell I am going. Hey, its the second thing to go, right ?? (I forget the first .....) On a very positive front, they decided to keep the volume at a very loud level instead of attempting to break the Who's record of something like 170 db. Definitely loud enough. You felt the bass thumping at the chest but the ears wont ring until next next week. Quite tasteful. The only thing that didn't seem to work for me was Hollow Years. The instrumentation, especially at the beginning, just didn't seem to sound right. Sounded mushy. I dont claim to know what to suggest though. I dont know if they could pull it off using an acoustic guitar as crowds tend to not be quiet when they should be but it may be worth a try. I love the song so I hope that they keep it in their rotation. The crowd was pretty rowdy including the requisite crowd surfers and stage crashers which could easily be done without. To his credit, James took it in stride when a young female "joined him" for the ending of Metropolis. Basically the most intense 90 minutes of live music that you could hope to experience. I hope that this bodes well for this next Saturday. Later, Mark Metzger email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 15:24:40 -0600 From: NightCast To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: TAMP demo and STM demo lyrics Message-ID: <01BCDCA3.51991C60@tron> For those of you who were interested in the lyrics on the Japanese version of TAMP... The first and second verses are the same. The third goes like this: I was sitting on the edge of my bed Staring at the paper through my tears It read: Say Goodbye to Jesus The world he left will never be the same The Speak to Me lyrics (as best I can make out) are... I remember when we were so young You embraced my fears and made me strong Never did you actually hold my hand Your silence no one else would understand Did you fall? Did you crawl? Will you open up at all? Did you hear things you fear? Did I make it clear? Tell me what you're thinking Tell me what you're thinking Tell me what you're feeling inside Tell me what you're thinking Tell me what you're thinking Tell me what you're feeling inside Do you like the clothes she wears today Could lie a love affair against a shade (I doubt this is right.. anyone got a better idea?) Often times I wish you'd speak to me Through the open book the world revealed to see (again, not sure about this line) Did you fall? Did you crawl? Will you open up at all? Did you hear things you fear? Did I make it clear? Tell me what you're thinking Tell me what you're thinking Tell me what you're feeling inside Tell me what you're thinking Tell me what you're thinking Tell me all you're feeling inside So easy, easier If you spoke to me So easy, easier Speak to me Tell me what you're thinking Tell me what you're thinking Tell me what you're feeling inside Tell me what you're thinking Tell me what you're thinking Tell me all you're feeling inside ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:14:59 -0400 From: John Gilbert To: email_address_removed Subject: Cool pics... Message-ID: Everyone check out my homepage...and go to pictures, I have some cool stuff most people haven't seen..Like an ad that ran in my local St pete paper that was in memoriam for Criss Oliva....Sorry for the shameless plug :) But i'm sure some of you people will like to see it.. John Gilbert jg on dreamt.org http://home1.gte.net/mawyatt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:34:27 +1000 From: email_address_removed.au To: email_address_removed Subject: UNCLASSIFIED:-Finding Angra CD's On The Net Message-ID: Okay try CD Universe, CDU are cheaper and they have actuall stock, you can check before you order to see if the CD's are in stock and the prices are better than German Music Express (hah, great name, Express my ass!) Even stuff I had on backorder from Japan, 'Evil Warning' EP only took three days extra. gRaham_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:49:10 +1000 From: email_address_removed.au To: email_address_removed Subject: UNCLASSIFIED:-Re: wtf? Message-ID: > From: Rogerio Brito > Subject: New Metallica album (NDTC) >Now that's something that doesn't belong on the jam...metallica has its >own newsgroup and countless webpages, thus I'm sure anyone here that >cares will look for the information, there's no need to post it here... So who the fuck are you telling Roger what he can and can't post to the list ? Only one guy can do this and you are not him so how bout you pull your head in ? I am sure their are fans of Metallica like myself, who don't subscribe to the Metallica newsgroup or spend hours trying to find a decent web page from the band. I am grateful for this information. If you don't like, stiff shit mate, page down or delete. gRaham_ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 22:12:55 From: "Parker" To: email_address_removed Subject: Luke Message-ID: > From: Luke > I need from some help from the wiser of you jammers out there > who know of the bands I am about to list. > ANGRA > ENCHANT Can't help ya out here :/ > SPOCK'S BEARD One of Spock's Beard members used to be a Jammer, so they are fairly well known here (along with Mastermind and Inferno). Spock's Beard has a page, as does Mastermind, and I highly recommend you check them out. Do a search for "Michael Backof" using your web progam and you'll find a good list of prog bands reviewed. > If there are any other bands you know of that you could also > reccomend, then please do. Of the ones that I think would appeal to you, I can tell you about the following: - Anekdoten: You've got to hear Vemod, though it will take you some searching and mail-order to get your hands on it. The music is definitely a spin-off of King Crimson, but its different from most other prog-metal in that the bass is what carries the tune (think Chris Squire on steroids). They have a very heavy sound, using guitar, bass, cello, drums and mellotron. Their second album is supposed to be different, so I don't know if they stuck with it. - Tad Morose: This is heavier than Dream Theater, but they lose a lot that DT has - subtlty and melody being the main casualties. They also use keys, and the progressive edge is there, but it isn't as intricate. - King Crimson: Probably one of the first prog bands, these guys have also gotten heavy in recent years. Check out Thrak (not Thrak Attak) or B'Boom to see what they're about. Robert Fripp makes good use of dissonance and grunge, and there aren't many other bands that make as complex music as this band does. - Magellan: These guys are one of the more prominent Magna Carta bands, and they sound like a lighter form of DT. It would probably be more appropriate to call them prog-rock than prog-metal; their music is mainly synth-driven and somehow Californian. - Arsin: and lastly, this is a trio from Canada that sound remarkably like another better-known trio from California, except that Arsin is a bit heavier. Hope ya enjoy :) Dom'ny ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 97 3:17:24 EDT From: Christopher Bellardine To: email_address_removed Subject: No messages for a whole day. Message-ID: This must be the first day in a very long time that I received zero messages from the jam. Am I missing something here? Take the Time ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3130 **************************