YTSEJAM Digest 3110 Today's Topics: 1) -gry words... NDTC by "Andrew Fors" 2) James too good for DT?; page update & CD information by "David Whitaker" 3) hearing silence... by "Brian Hayden" 4) CD-R's and MP3's by "John Hough" 5) Top 10 by "Andrew Fors" 6) MiniDisc by "Andrew Fors" 7) I'm BAAACKKKK!!! by JB 8) MD for bootlegging? by "Andrew Fors" 9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3109 by stephen botic 10) Re: TSO by Jan Ziese 11) Re: Top 10 by Brandon Elhai 12) Kevin Moore by "Andrew Fors" 13) WDATU by "Andrew Fors" 14) Website by "Andrew Fors" 15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3109 by "Richard A. Rivera" 16) TV High Pitched noise by "Matt Mommaerts" 17) by Paul Dyer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:50:44 -0600 From: "Andrew Fors" To: email_address_removed Subject: -gry words... NDTC Message-ID: On 13 Oct 97 at 16:52, email_address_removed wrote: > Can anyone help me with this riddle? I heard it over a year ago and still > can't figure it out. The riddle goes: "There are three words that end in > -gry . . . angry, hungry, and what? It is a word that you use almost > everyday." Another version I have heard is that "if you have listened > closely to what I have said, then you already heard the answer." Does > anybody know what the answer to this stupid riddle is, or is it wrong. Heh heh, the third is.... GRY. :) Look it up. :) I'd give you a definition, but I don't have dictionary handy. Andrew Fors email_address_removed http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119 ----------------------------------- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes Centers our perspective And pacifies our cries Sometimes the anguish we survive And the mysteries we nurture Are the fabrics of our lives "Lines in the Sand" Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:42:57 -0500 From: "David Whitaker" To: Subject: James too good for DT?; page update & CD information Message-ID: <19971014054545.AAA26692@hombre> I played FII for my girlfriend this past weekend on my visit home, and she liked 'Hollow Years'. She also liked 'Just Let Me Breathe' but laughed at James' voice. I quote, "He sounds like he's trying so hard to sound 'rough'! His voice is too good to be in this band. It just doesn't match up." (She did think his voice matched up with HY, though) I've been working on her for nearly two years now, nearly force-feeding her DT nonstop. It sounds as if she might cave in any day now. =) Lately my page has been updated with a lot of new information on the bootleg compilation discs I'm offering. Please go here if you're wondering what "Seven Wonders," "Spinning Years,", and "Caught in Amsterdam '97" are all about: http://www.geocities.com/soho/2236 Later, D. Ryan Whitaker email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 97 00:54:19 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" To: email_address_removed Subject: hearing silence... Message-ID: > Um..doesnt everyone hear this? I can tell easily... same when you get on > a car that has everything closed out.. you can *hear* silence..like a > shirpy noisy kinda shit thats really annonying Silence truly *can* be deafening. I don't know if it's normal, or if it's a combo of years of loud music and firearms, but when it's really quiet, my head is filled with a loud drone...it even keeps me awake sometimes. -Brian ******************************************************************************** "I may have wasted all those years, but they're not worth their time in tears." -John Myung of Dream Theater ******************************************************************************** Dream Theater North American Tour pre-show gatherings info: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/3771/dt.html ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:25:18 -0700 From: "John Hough" To: "Ytsejam" Subject: CD-R's and MP3's Message-ID: <01bcd869$f1631720$message_id_removed> I have a question for anyone with a cd-r drive, has anyone tried to compress a mp3 file in the "WAV mpeg layer3 format" and put it on a music disc and see if it will play on a regular stereo? It compresses the file as a wav file and plays in all wav players on the computer, so I figured I would give it a shot! It would be great if it worked, 4-6 hours worth of stuff on one cd. Just a thought. John Hough email_address_removed http://www.mindspring.com/~jhough GO PADRES!!!!!!! Tony Gwynn wins 8th batting title --- 9/27/97 --- .374 (1st) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 01:51:13 -0600 From: "Andrew Fors" To: email_address_removed Subject: Top 10 Message-ID: > There it is, let me know if you agree Here's Mine: 10. Boston's Greatest Hits 9. Return of the Jedi - SPecial Edition SDTK 8. Johnny Lang - Lie to Me 7. Megadeth - Cryptic Writings 6. Styx - Retrun to Paradise 5. Final Fantasy VII - SDTK 4. Scorpions: The Mercurty Years 3. KMFDM - KMFDM 2.Dream Theater - FII 1. Poison - Crack a Smile bootleg What a variety, eh? Andrew Fors email_address_removed http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119 ----------------------------------- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes Centers our perspective And pacifies our cries Sometimes the anguish we survive And the mysteries we nurture Are the fabrics of our lives "Lines in the Sand" Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 01:51:13 -0600 From: "Andrew Fors" To: email_address_removed Subject: MiniDisc Message-ID: On 13 Oct 97 at 6:31, email_address_removed wrote: > > Whoo hoo! Another MiniDisc owner it's hard to find another person > > with a MiniDisc player! Can you e-mail me a list of good downloads > > for DT so I can record to MD as well? I LOVE my MD Player! :) > > I also own a minidisc , and have recorded the whole fii album from downloaded mp3 > files (I will still buy the album of course when it eventually gets released in the UK). > I got these files from http://citadel.elender.hu/pod/rare.html, this site also has whole > concerts in mp3 and are pretty good quality. One question though , How do you record your mp3's ? I normally just connect the line out from my sound card to the > line in on the minidisc and record "analougly" , but I've heard that there is a card > with a optical line out which can record digitally which would be ideal for recording > to minidisc from a pc. I've never seen such a card, but I do belive it exists. I just use an analog cable for my recording. Even with a digital port, I'd probably still use analog, as I have an 18-foot cable running between my PC and stereo. :) Andrew Fors email_address_removed http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119 ----------------------------------- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes Centers our perspective And pacifies our cries Sometimes the anguish we survive And the mysteries we nurture Are the fabrics of our lives "Lines in the Sand" Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 02:45:27 -0400 From: JB To: email_address_removed Subject: I'm BAAACKKKK!!! Message-ID: >> A moment of silence, please, at the death of the musical genius >>John Denver.... :) > >Yea, John Denver was cool in his own way....I mean I'll listen to >folk music any day over rap and that dance crap.........Too bad he >had to die the way he did.........Dusty you know... this is not a funny topic.. but I just can't help it... when I first heard this news, I was listening to an old Monty Python Recording (Contractual Obligation Album I think). About a minute after the girl on headline news announced the death, the "Death of John Denver" sketch came on... I almost shat myself... I couldn't stop laughing... (callous as I may seem, it was pretty damn funny if you were there -- my roomate was the same way)... and... oh yeah... >> can't fix it, unfortunately. (Unless you have a Turing EQ.) > BTW, I don't know what a Turing EQ is, unfortunately. could this have been a Turing Machine AI joke? ugh, later, (you know you're an engineer when...) Jason -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jason Brindel Computer Engineering '97 Virginia Tech email_address_removed http://www.vt.edu:10021/B/beamup (540)961-7262 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 01:57:10 -0600 From: "Andrew Fors" To: email_address_removed Subject: MD for bootlegging? Message-ID: On 13 Oct 97 at 0:52, email_address_removed wrote: > What it IS is a way to get re-recordable cd quality that you can > use instead of a shitty walkman, so you can hear a bunch of your favorite > tunes without bringing all your cds with you. I think it'd be reasonably > useful as a bootlegging tool too, but there's no advantage I can think of > that it has over the DAT in that respect. Well, an advantage for booting over DATS would be price of a recorder... a portable MD recorder will only run you about $500, not like $1000 that I've seen DAT recorders for... plus they're smaller and more undetectable than a DAT recorder, you could stick it in your underwear if you wanted.... Andrew Fors email_address_removed http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119 ----------------------------------- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes Centers our perspective And pacifies our cries Sometimes the anguish we survive And the mysteries we nurture Are the fabrics of our lives "Lines in the Sand" Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 01:55:51 -0700 From: stephen botic To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3109 Message-ID: Can I please get off of this mailing list please. Thank you ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 97 09:01:43 +0100 From: Jan Ziese To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: TSO Message-ID: At 15:39 13.10.97 -0700, you wrote: >>So they don't want to compete against themselves in December, but they >don't mind in >January? > >Hands up those who are gonna buy a christmas CD in January ? >How many jammers missed out on the CD, try getting it after xmas and >couldn't get a copy ? OK, this doesn't seem to be too easy: Not only will the TSO christmas CD be re-released but a NEW CD will be out in January. This new CD won't be xmas related but will be inspired by popular classic themes. This is why holding back the Savatage CD until January really doesn't make too much sense. All righty? Merry XMas everybody <|8-) Jan ------------------------------------------------------------------ - Jan Ziese = +49 (0) 7738 / 99 858 = jzi@star-ag.ch - ------------------------------------------------------------------ - If you fall from a skyscraper, scream only when you pass - - open windows. The closed windows are usually soundproof - - and you'd be just wasting your breath! - ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 03:16:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Brandon Elhai To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Top 10 Message-ID: On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Andrew Fors wrote: > Here's Mine: One of the biggest ytsejam sins. NO TOP TEN LISTS OF ANY NATURE! Brandon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 02:32:24 -0600 From: "Andrew Fors" To: email_address_removed Subject: Kevin Moore Message-ID: On 12 Oct 97 at 16:04, email_address_removed wrote: > Just a question: > > How come Kevin did not play in ACoS?? Since I'm sure no one else will answer you politely, here's the deal. After Awake, Kevin Moore left dream Theater over mostly personal reasons. Derek Shenirian replaced him and is doing an excellent job. You can hear his real skill on their nre album, Falling inti Infinity. Andrew Fors email_address_removed http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119 ----------------------------------- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes Centers our perspective And pacifies our cries Sometimes the anguish we survive And the mysteries we nurture Are the fabrics of our lives "Lines in the Sand" Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 02:32:24 -0600 From: "Andrew Fors" To: email_address_removed Subject: WDATU Message-ID: On 12 Oct 97 at 11:20, email_address_removed wrote: > Andrew Fors wrote: > > soon. "Only a Matter of Time" is one of my fav. DT songs, and I'm > > yeat to hear LaBrie sing it. Hopefully soon. Anyway, that's my 2 > > cents. > > You know, I was in the same situation 2 weeks ago. Don't expect too > much. > That praticular show was probably one of his worst shows ever.... > Status Seeker has a Myung mistake in the 1st verse, > A Fortune In Lies has a Moore mistake, > And The Killing Hand (Bahr, why did you cut "Another Hand" out?) is > better on LATM.... > > I love Status Seeker and Afterlife though.... Well, I'm expecting my CD soon. :) I'll judge it then. :) I still do like Dominici's "Fortune in Lies" better I think. :) "Another Hand - The Killing Hand" definitely is better with LaBrie I think. :) Andrew Fors email_address_removed http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119 ----------------------------------- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes Centers our perspective And pacifies our cries Sometimes the anguish we survive And the mysteries we nurture Are the fabrics of our lives "Lines in the Sand" Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 02:32:24 -0600 From: "Andrew Fors" To: email_address_removed Subject: Website Message-ID: On 12 Oct 97 at 11:20, email_address_removed wrote: > I haven't seen your site yet, so I don't know how much is there (seeing > as it's under 'heavy daily construction'). What I do know, is that it's > a *total* pain in the ass when people try to get into your webring with > only a main page and a buncha links that say "404 File Not Found", when > you click on them. Pages like *that* simply do not belong in a webring, > until they are finished. So, if anyone on this list is working on their > own Dream Theater site, do not try to join the webring until everything > is working. It sucks having to turn you down. Also, the only person who > can move your site from the queue into the webring is Nuggetman. As far > as I know, there's no need for you to contact anyone, because Nuggetman > *automatically* gets notified when you put your site into the webring's > queue... Just make sure your website is working and also has the proper > webring code and GIF. And for fuck's sake, try to be a bit original :-P I know, Nuggetman wrote me aboutit. :) He'll ad me when it'sreadyI believe. :) Progress is going well. I got my page up for "When Dream and Day Unite" today. :) Also have a link to tour dates courtesy of Ticketbastard. I am trying to make it original! I hate web pages that copy other pages. Use some stuff, sure, but don't copy the design for Christ's sake! :) It'll be nice when the Webmaster gets the damned MIDI to work... *sigh* Damned "Windows is going to start mplayer" shit is pissing me off! Andrew Fors email_address_removed http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119 ----------------------------------- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes Centers our perspective And pacifies our cries Sometimes the anguish we survive And the mysteries we nurture Are the fabrics of our lives "Lines in the Sand" Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 03:37:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3109 Message-ID: On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 email_address_removed wrote: > Also...re the long article about Atlantic....jeez, that's really scary > isn't it? Shit, bands aren't beasts of burden. Good god...."work them > harder?" *barf* that has to be one of the most crass things I've ever > heard anyone say.... I'm not sure if I'm misreading what you said, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there is a misunderstanding. "Work them harder" in this case does not refer to putting the bands to work. When someone is "working" a band, that means that they are actively promoting them. So "work them harder" in this case actually means the desire on the side of the label to promote the bands to a more effective degree. Actually, the part you are referring to as "scary" is actually a good thing. A lot of major labels release a lot of new products per year and while these albums receieve an initial push, if nothing happens after several months, the labels will move on to the next release, leaving the album to either sink or swim on its own (it sinks most of the time). Thus, the statement that Atlantic wants to work harder the bands that they have, as opposed to the "seeing what sticks" method is a good thing because it allows for the current roster and the select new bands to receieve more individual attention, thus increasing the chances for success. Again, I might have taken what you said the wrong way, but I just wanted to clear the air. Richie P.S. BTW, why on earth was that article posted here? I mean, _I_ enjoyed it, but then again I'm into this kind of stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 02:44:24 -0500 From: "Matt Mommaerts" To: Subject: TV High Pitched noise Message-ID: <01bcd874$fde85900$message_id_removed> > With the talk lately of the television noise in SDV, I have a question. Can any > of you tell when a TV is on nearby? I can sense this hum, almost more of a > feeling than a sound. Friends that I've mentioned this to think I'm nuts. I can > walk into a place, and if there's a tv on nearby, even in another room, I'll > know. Just curious if this happens to anyone else. Yes, I can actually hear the sound of a TV screen. It is a very high-pitched noise, and not everyone can hear it (kids are more likely to be able to hear it than adults). Normally it is obscured by background noise, but if it is the only sound in an otherwise silent room, it is VERY annoying. To see if you can hear it, turn your TV on with the audio muted, and eliminate all other sources of noise. If you hear a high-pitched whine, that is the sound of the screen. -Paul Well, as a TV Broadcast Engineer... I can geek out here. The high pitch is actually the Vertical Scan Rate. It is 15,734.266 Hz in the U.S. For color TV's of course. What this comes from is... The more "odd" numbers (ones with decimal points) end up being there because they wanted to make color compatible with the old B&W systems. it used to be all rounded out with 30 interlaced frames per second (60 fields per second, 2 fields interlaced to make one frame). To make color all compatible and stuff, they made it 29.94 frames per second. (Movie film is 24 Frames per second) Each frame is made up of 525 1/2 lines. So if the electron beam scans 525.5(rounded up) lines 29.94 seconds, you get 15,734.266 Hz. And that's that high pitched noise that you hear. If you don't hear it... you should have worn Ear plugs at the last few DT shows you went to. As for this Mini Disc discussion I've been seeing... I did some papers on it when it was first introduced. It is designed to replace cassettes and that's it. It's not here to replace CD's, so they didn't try to make it as good as CD's. As for my opinion... I've only heard them a few times, and I think it's "good enough" I don't have golden ears, so I think it's fine! Sure kicks the cassette's ass!. CD-RW's. I really want one of these! I didn't know they were making regular CD-players that can read these too. But from what I read... these machines will make the normal CD-R's that have been around... as well as with the CD-RW disks, so you can use it like a Jaz drive, or just another hard drive (slower of course) and you can also burn those CD-R's of cool stuff. Well, that was boring, eh? sigh What's up with people not requesting DT anymore? the first week I had the CD, people called and requested stuff, now no one. I still play it, but damn!!! I thought people liked DT on the radio! The other station in town, well, the cool commercial station plays it in regular rotation! But they only play BMS (that I've heard). I played New Millenium 2nite. Back to 'Jam Skim Mode Matt P.S. to Milwaukee people... I called The Rave today, and they had what Mr. Portnoy confirmed... November 3rd for the DT show! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:38:44 +0900 From: Paul Dyer To: email_address_removed Message-ID: >>Yea, John Denver was cool in his own way....I mean I'll listen to >>folk music any day over rap and that dance crap.........Too bad he >>had to die the way he did.........Dusty I don't know that that was a bad way for hJohn Denver to die. I mean he seemed to love flying didn't he? Then he ended up dying while doing something he loved. I'd be happy to do that... Anyway to any Aussie jammers.... i live in Darwin in the NT (where the music shops suck) and i'm interested getting some vinyl. Any guitar based music but mostly prog through to black metal. Some names of stores or private sales would be great. Please email me direct so as not to jam the jam with my problems.... Cheers Paul D. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3110 **************************