YTSEJAM Digest 3099 Today's Topics: 1) Chicago Help! (also Milwaukee Help!) by "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" 2) Translation Made Easy by Lobsterback 3) Cast by "Juan Fco. Quintero" 4) imports, Divine Regale, GnR? by "Parker" 5) imports, Divine Regale, and GnR? by "Parker" 6) Someone else likes Magma??? by Jay Omega 7) g3 by email_address_removed (Ernesto Schnack) 8) oops by "Dale R. Newberry" 9) WDADU by "Andrew Fors" 10) MiniDisc by "Andrew Fors" 11) Killing Hand by "Andrew Fors" 12) WDADU... Import? by "Andrew Fors" 13) Live in Tokyo by "Andrew Fors" 14) Musical tastes continuation by "Brown, Neal Patrick" 15) 5 Reasons Why I Think FII is a Great Album / Derek's playing by email_address_removed.mx (Marcelo Martinelli ) 16) Metal/Rock Radio Show Survey by Chris Aitken 17) Toad's place... by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:04:02 -0400 From: "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" To: YtseGods Subject: Chicago Help! (also Milwaukee Help!) Message-ID: Hi... I hoping one of you Chicago ytsejammers might be able to help me out. I'm planning and going out to see the DT show Nov 1 in Chicago at the House of Blues. One problem! I live in PA and will be flying out to stay at my brother's place in Mukwonaho, Wisconsin. I'm looking for someone that might meet me before the show and either help me find the show and or maybe give me a little tour of Chicago..I've only ever drove around it. This would be a GREAT HELP....because obviously I'll be absolutely lost and it looks like the House of Blues in the thick of things in Chicago. Please email privately if you are interesting in helping a fellow ytsejammer. Also if there is going to be a a show in Milwaukee I will be going there too...so if this show is happening I would also ask for some help from any Milwaukee fans too. thanks, Bruce Duesterhoeft ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:43:53 -0400 From: Lobsterback To: email_address_removed Subject: Translation Made Easy Message-ID: >Somebody said: >>Honci, >> Megvettuk a papanak a CD-t: Barenboim (vagy valami ilyesmi) con- >>ductolja a Rheingoldot, es Bayreuth-i felvetel, ugyhogy nagyon rossz >>nem lehet. Harmincharom dollar volt, ugyhogy tizeneggyel kellene be- >>szallnod. ><> > >haha. I bet I am the only person who is not Hungarian who understood this. Pshaw. Any schmoe can translate that... "Honey, Large Friar Tuck a pineapple and CD: Baron Munchausen (vaguely salami miasma) conducted a Golden Rhinoceros, in Beirut - I fallaffel, big hoagie nagging rose name the hat. Harmonica-robot dollar volt, big hoagie Tiger Woods kerosene sleeping-beehive." Which, obviously means, if you read a little into it, that every Ytsejammer is supposed to mail me $10. Or was that $20? That big hoagie metaphor is throwing me off a little bit. Brian Henderson email_address_removed "Nodnol, Bulgaria -- rich in animal produce and mineral wealth, just south of Bosnia." -- D. Lister ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 23:48:16 -0600 From: "Juan Fco. Quintero" To: email_address_removed Subject: Cast Message-ID: Ernesto wrote: >BTW, this Tuesday a prog band from Mexico called 'Cast' is playing here in >Panama. Has anybody heard of them? According to their webpage they've >played in the States before...and they're listed at progrock.com too. Cast is a band from Baja California, Mexico that has been making prog music for more than 18 years! . They make good prog music with two singers. I've five albums of them and all are very good CD's. They have a Live album which contain live cuts from Argentina and Los Angeles. They are definetly one of the best prog bands from Mexico. Just don=B4t miss the show!! :) Also check some reviews of them at: http://prog.ari.net/prog/GEPR/gepr.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 22:49:29 From: "Parker" To: email_address_removed Subject: imports, Divine Regale, GnR? Message-ID: > Ah, wouldn't it be nice if that were the case here? If imports > were cheaper than domestic releases? Oddly enough, I've been trying to get in a cd of a certain French band (anyone know Magma?), apparantly released or rereleased a couple of months ago on cd for $10. $10! You can maybe find an old cassette of theirs for that much. > Subject: Divine Regal/TI's Black Umbrella > A fairly new Metal Blade band called Divine Regal caught my eye > in a magazine add saying that they are progressive > Metal...Anyone know anything about this band? Divine Regale has been around since at least the time I made up my old prog-band list. The official web page I have is http://pubpages.unh.edu/~reyancik/index.htm but that may be seriously out of date. > Continuing the "does anyone hear" stuff: > -does anyone hear Guns n' Roses in the chorus of NM? I hear Alice in Chains in the opening, Ozric Tentacles in the soloing, indutrial in the "Keep your head up" part... The GnR is probably from the fact that they actually used 'baby' in their lyrics. The closing chorus has a bit of GnR's vocal harmonics to it, but I don't think it's prevalent throughout the rest of the tune... ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 22:55:13 From: "Parker" To: email_address_removed Subject: imports, Divine Regale, and GnR? Message-ID: > Ah, wouldn't it be nice if that were the case here? If imports > were cheaper than domestic releases? Oddly enough, I've been trying to get in a cd of a certain French band (anyone know Magma?), apparantly released or rereleased a couple of months ago on cd for $10. $10! You can maybe find an old cassette of theirs for that much. > Subject: Divine Regal/TI's Black Umbrella > A fairly new Metal Blade band called Divine Regal caught my eye > in a magazine add saying that they are progressive > Metal...Anyone know anything about this band? Divine Regale has been around since at least the time I made up my old prog-band list. The official web page I have is http://pubpages.unh.edu/~reyancik/index.htm but that may be seriously out of date. > Continuing the "does anyone hear" stuff: > -does anyone hear Guns n' Roses in the chorus of NM? I hear Alice in Chains in the opening, Ozric Tentacles in the soloing, indutrial in the "Keep your head up" part... The GnR is probably from the fact that they actually used 'baby' in their lyrics. The closing chorus has a bit of GnR's vocal harmonics to it, but I don't think it's prevalent throughout the rest of the tune... ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:38:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Omega To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Someone else likes Magma??? Message-ID: On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, Parker wrote: > [...] a cd of a certain French band (anyone know Magma?), Yeah, they're cool! What's been re-released? I've got Ko:hntarko:sz and Udu Wudu. (pardon the ascii-clean umlauts.) To tie into the 'pour your soul into your music' bit that's been here the past couple'a days... ..You've gotta appreciate someone so into his music that he invents a new language to sing in! (And he's a kick-ass drummer, too.) --Jay "that's Christian Vander, for the uninitiated" Omega --NP: Caravan - Canterbury Tales (the Best Of Caravan) Disc 1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:58:38 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Ernesto Schnack) To: "That Darn Mailing List Thingy" Subject: g3 Message-ID: so apparently they broadcast a g3 concert on the net...and nobody posted it to the jam? waddup wit dat?:) Anyhoo the page is at http://www.audionet.com/concerts/g3 however it doesn't seem to work...it doesn't seem to be archived, but the page is still up there. I dunno, it didn't work for me, maybe it'll work for someone else. Ern ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:14:32 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" To: email_address_removed Subject: oops Message-ID: Damn, I sent that last message from my dad's address. Oops. I also didn't necessarily mean to send it to the jam, either. Sorry. Dale R. Newberry "People think I'm insane because I am frowning all the time." - Ozzy Osbourne "Bein' crazy is the least of my worries." -Jack Kerouac ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:23:38 -0600 From: "Andrew Fors" To: email_address_removed Subject: WDADU Message-ID: On 11 Oct 97 at 9:05, email_address_removed wrote: > Definitly!! Tou see, i had all the official releases, and a > bootleg, but i didnt wanted to buy WDADU because some friends told me > that the singer had a horrible voice, and i was kind of waiting for a re > release with JB on vocals. As you can see, the long wait between ACoS and > FII made me buy it, and IT RULES, even though that album might be the > "immature" one. Well, I found out FII was coming out and had a DT resurgance and bought it, and the more I listen to it, the more I like it. I have no problems with Dominici's voice. In fact I like it. He reminds me of a cross between Geddy Lee, Steve Perry and the singer from Stryper. All stuff I like. Especially on "Only a Matter of Time." I LOVE that track. I doubt they will re-record it, as that would eb a step backwards..... Andrew Fors email_address_removed http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119 ----------------------------------- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes Centers our perspective And pacifies our cries Sometimes the anguish we survive And the mysteries we nurture Are the fabrics of our lives "Lines in the Sand" Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:23:38 -0600 From: "Andrew Fors" To: email_address_removed Subject: MiniDisc Message-ID: On 11 Oct 97 at 9:05, email_address_removed wrote: > > Whoo hoo! Another MiniDisc owner it's hard to find another person > > with a MiniDisc player! Can you e-mail me a list of good downloads > > for DT so I can record to MD as well? I LOVE my MD Player! :) > > Andrew Fors > > yes but isnt the minidisc that comes with dt's cd playable on a regular cd player? > whereas the actual "MiniDisc" is the thing that looks like a floppy? Well, that technically is not a minidisc. It's just a 3 inch CD. and yes they are playable in a regular player, except magazine-style changers and some car players. Yeah, MiniDiscs look like floppy discs, but smaller. I love mine! :) Theya re wonderful things. SOOOOO much better than a casette, and more convenient than a CD burner, with re-write capabilities. NP: Another Hand-The Killing Hand Andrew Fors email_address_removed http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119 ----------------------------------- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes Centers our perspective And pacifies our cries Sometimes the anguish we survive And the mysteries we nurture Are the fabrics of our lives "Lines in the Sand" Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:23:38 -0600 From: "Andrew Fors" To: email_address_removed Subject: Killing Hand Message-ID: On 11 Oct 97 at 9:05, email_address_removed wrote: > Indeed. This version is amazing. When I heard the "when I go back > again..." part I couldn't speak. Not a single mistake in the whole > song... I agree, I love the "Another-Hand" part at the beginning as well. I haven't gotten my "When Dream and Today Unite" yet, so I can't totally compare James to Charlie, but in "Fortune in Lies" and "The Killing Hand" I think James sings with more feeling than Charlie did, but that's just me. I do think Dominici was an excellent singer in the studio, I've heard his weak points were live though. I'll see soon. "Only a Matter of Time" is one of my fav. DT songs, and I'm yeat to hear LaBrie sing it. Hopefully soon. Anyway, that's my 2 cents. NP: Cover My Eyes - Dream Theater Andrew Fors email_address_removed http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119 ----------------------------------- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes Centers our perspective And pacifies our cries Sometimes the anguish we survive And the mysteries we nurture Are the fabrics of our lives "Lines in the Sand" Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:23:38 -0600 From: "Andrew Fors" To: email_address_removed Subject: WDADU... Import? Message-ID: Does hte import of WDADU have the liner with lyrics and stuff? Andrew Fors email_address_removed http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119 ----------------------------------- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes Centers our perspective And pacifies our cries Sometimes the anguish we survive And the mysteries we nurture Are the fabrics of our lives "Lines in the Sand" Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:29:22 -0600 From: "Andrew Fors" To: email_address_removed Subject: Live in Tokyo Message-ID: On 11 Oct 97 at 9:05, email_address_removed wrote: > Ohh yeah!! I just remembered now! And do you notice that in that > same video, on UaGM james skips one word in the passage that says: "i > argue with the clouds (here he stops) beauty from my eyes" > stealing Don't forget the intro to a Pantera song in the YtseJam! Andrew Fors email_address_removed http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2119 ----------------------------------- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes Centers our perspective And pacifies our cries Sometimes the anguish we survive And the mysteries we nurture Are the fabrics of our lives "Lines in the Sand" Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 02:16:08 CST From: "Brown, Neal Patrick" To: Subject: Musical tastes continuation Message-ID: Regarding the musical taste thread....my take on it is this. Last year, I discovered Yes. I'd been a big Kansas and DT fan for a while, but I was completely unaware of the whole progressive subgenre. I found Yes' double-live album (Yessongs) and after I got used to it I played it constantly. My roommates listened to a bunch of pop stuff--Bush, Everclear (barf!!), Nine Inch Nails, Filter, shit like that. So whenever they'd walk in the room and hear, say, "Close To The Edge," they'd be like, "what the fuck IS that??" I tried so many times to explain to them why Yes beats the hell out of Tupac....but it didn't work. Now what I do is I tell everybody that the stuff I listen to is weird (well, they'll think it's farkin' loony if all the ever listen to is Sheryl Crow) and obscure, but it's really complicated and thoughtful. I also keep my CD collection split into four sections: the King Crimson/DT/ELP/Phish prog stuff, classical, jazz, and the few pop bands I feel have merit--Metallica, Zeppelin, U2, Hendrix, Soundgarden, etc. And people look at the prog section (considerably larger than the other three ;) ) and say, what the hell is this? Oh...that's a Jethro Tull album...it's pretty cool, but there's only one track on the whole damn thing! If all somebody ever listens to is three-chord nonsense, they can't comprehend more complex music. (I'm trying not to sound snobbish, but I think I'm failing miserably.) It's like with religion. You can argue all you like about it, but talking about it doesn't change anybody's mind ever. Even getting out something amazing like OFB's Metropolis or anything by the Mahavishnu Orchestra (!--now there is some damn fast playing!) doesn't change anybody's mind. In response, they'll just ask you to listen some track off the new Spice Girls record. (*pardon me while I retch*) You see what I mean? You have to just kinda play the good shit while they're doing something else and then they realize how stoopid they've been =P. One of my roomies this year is actually starting to like a couple of Crimson tunes--even the psychotic ones, like "Fracture" and "Sex Sleep Eat Drink Dream" (!). (This guy listens to Enya's "Memory of Trees" all the fuckin' time....not really a bad album, believe it or not, if you on once,ly have to listen to it once....he plays it at least once a day!!! arrgh!) Anyway, you get the idea.... P.S. If DT does decide to play in St. Louis, you can bet yer left you-know-what that I am gonna be there!! If they are and you wanna hang out/need a ride/whatever, e-mail me: email_address_removed....especially if you're a jammer from Mizzou...I'll be coming down I-70 to get home anyway, so I can give ya a ride into town. =) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 03:00:50 -0500 From: email_address_removed.mx (Marcelo Martinelli ) To: email_address_removed Subject: 5 Reasons Why I Think FII is a Great Album / Derek's playing Message-ID: I've found several reasons why I think that FII is a great album and how you can appreciate it better : 1.- If I want to listen to heavy songs , I listen to The Mirror/Lie 2.- If I want to listen to prog at its best , I listen to ACOS 3.- If I want to listen to time sig changes , I listen to Take the Time 4.- If I want to listen to complex instrumental arrangements , I listen to Metropolis 5.- If I want to listen to anything else , I listen to Falling Into Infinity. By this I mean to say that I don't need what's already been done in previous DT albums to be done again , it's there and I can listen to it whenever I want. FII gives us fresh music , an evolution in DT's style and the opportunity to diversify our musical tastes. Hear FII without comparing and accepting what's been done and you shall enjoy the music of DT! I would also like to know everybody's opinion on Derek in FII because ever since Kevin left DT there has been all this talk about Derek and how will he fit in the band. Well the album is out and it hasn't been discussed much and I would like to see some talk about it. Personally I think that Derek is amazing on FII and I really like his style. Marcelo Martinelli Monterrey , Mexico -It dawned on me one day that I should not be making sandwiches for a living- --- John Petrucci --- -I may have wasted all these years But they're not worth their time in tears- "Trial of Tears" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:00:41 +1000 From: Chris Aitken To: email_address_removed Subject: Metal/Rock Radio Show Survey Message-ID: All righty peoples :) The latest results are now up on the web. Remember, if you are on any other mailing lists, please feel free to post this survey so EVERYONE can get a chance to help this survey & have their say. http://www.ideal.net.au/~aitkenc/metalsurveyresults.html Also, if you would like to give the Survey a plug on your own web site, there are now 4 different graphics to do that with. You can still vote if you havent already. http://www.ideal.net.au/~aitkenc/metalsurvey.html Thanks to everyone who has voted. Cheers ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Aitken Web Page email_address_removed.au http://www.ideal.net.au/~aitkenc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Very funny Scotty - Now beam down my clothes !!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 07:51:17 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Toad's place... Message-ID: hey peoples, I emailed Toad's Place to see about the DT show and they said... Subj: **Dream Theatre** Date: 97-10-12 04:11:37 EDT ]From: TOADS PLAC To: DragynLMC3 DEAR DRAGON, There are plenty of tix left but going fast. You can buy them at any strawberries or ticketmaster outlet or charge over the phone here at Toads between 11am and 6pm Monday through Friday. call 203-562-5589. Check out our website at www.toadsplace.com See You, The TOAD well dammit, whats wrong with these people??? arg, its just very very annoying.... Yes, i plan on going :} whoo hoo! see yall there! ~Lisa the annoyed jammer(et?) email_address_removed ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3099 **************************