YTSEJAM Digest 3077 Today's Topics: 1) Hollow Years, tour by email_address_removed (Ernesto Schnack) 2) Dream Theater tour dates: NJ, NY, PA by "Marshaleck, Joseph T." 3) Alan Estrada wishes to contact you on the ICQ Network. by ICQ Account 4) Contacting DT? by Jeremy Aaron Smith 5) UNCLASSIFIED:-The Priest Is Back ? by email_address_removed.au 6) Re: Paul Cashman's most by "Paul W. Cashman" 7) Re: Alan Estrada wishes to contact you on by Eckie 8) Re: DT concert gatherings web site by "Brian Hayden" 9) NDTC by "Trevor W. Hoit" 10) Quarky timing & Frickin VT radio by JB 11) Live In Tokyo... by email_address_removed 12) ITALY: the prog nation ! by "Luca Benni (studente 150 ore)" <> 13) YEEEEHA!! DreamServer online! by durnik 14) ANGRA Mailing List by Marco Nuno da Silva Goncalves 15) Is Olli out there ? by "Luke B." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 22:42:48 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Ernesto Schnack) To: Subject: Hollow Years, tour Message-ID: I learned HY today on guitar, but the chords in the intro still don't seem to sound right, so if any music mofo out there knows it already, lemme know if this is what ya got: Dm Dm/C Gsus2 Gm7/(Bb) A/(Bb) Dm Am7 That first Dm, I thought it was a Dm7, but when I play it, it just didn't sound right. And the Bb's are in paranthesis because they're only played by the bass. Now about the tour...I just find it extremely odd. Something tells me there's going to be a lot rescheduling. I mean, from what ppl have said, it seems these places are simply too small for DT. Didn't somebody say one of the clubs had like a capacity of 300? Puh-leez, DT can fill up a larger venue than that. Do the guys even know what's goin' on? Maybe they haven't been informed since theyre on that promo tour and stuff. Ernesto ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 00:24:05 EDT From: "Marshaleck, Joseph T." To: Subject: Dream Theater tour dates: NJ, NY, PA Message-ID: When is DT coming to any of these places. Let me know. I am dying to find out. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 00:35:24 -0400 (EDT) From: ICQ Account To: email_address_removed Subject: Alan Estrada wishes to contact you on the ICQ Network. Message-ID: Alan Estrada has tried to contact you on the ICQ network but was unable to do so.
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email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 00:43:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeremy Aaron Smith To: email_address_removed Subject: Contacting DT? Message-ID: Hey 'jammers, I have the opportunity to write an article for my school's newspaper covering the October 29 Toronto Dream Theater show. Does anyone know the specifics of getting touch with DT's management (Focus, I believe) for press passes, tickets, etc.? If so, please e-mail me back at email_address_removed with any info you have. I'll keep everyone posted as to what happens. Thanks in advance! Jeremy P.S. This came about because, a couple of weeks ago, I asked our paper's features editor to list FII in the upcoming releases box, but he said he'd never heard of DT before. When I told him tonight that they debuted at #52 in the U.S. and much higher in other countries, and that they were touring soon, he thought it might make for a good article. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. :) Just wish they were coming to Rochester, so I wouldn't have to travel for 3-4 hours to see them. -- * Jeremy A. Smith "42!" --Douglas Adams * * a.k.a. Wonko the Sane "Heh heh heheh heh!" --Beavis * * University of Rochester "Huh huhuh huh huh!" --Butt-Head * * Internet:email_address_removed "I will choose Freewill." --Rush * ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:13:06 +1000 From: email_address_removed.au To: email_address_removed Subject: UNCLASSIFIED:-The Priest Is Back ? Message-ID: I can't say that the news of a new JP album is exactly earth shattering for me, after all the delays and the years that have passed by since their last studio album 'Painkiller', my question is does anyone really care in 1997 about Priest ? Sure I'll give it a listen, it will be interesting to see if they can come up with a new sounding metal album for the 90's. Let's hope it isn't a rehash of some of their earlier efforts, it will be different hearing Priest without Halford. BTW what is 'ol leather lungs up to these days ? Let's hope there is some life in the old dinosaur's yet ! gRaham_ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 22:08:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Paul W. Cashman" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Paul Cashman's most Message-ID: Yep, I'm the, err, hostess with the mostest.. :) > Paul, You made me wanna post something I was thinking about > since the night before. Did you get any sleep AT ALL? Get a life, duder. :) > Everyone here is waiting to hear Metropolis Part 2, correct? > Of course, who wouldn't want to. It's THE most anticipated DT > song right now. The way I see it, is that, Paul is right it > comes down to money and the reason there is no tour is > probably also because the label just doesn't see any cash ops > in it. More likely, they don't see the potential. What really fuckin' slays me is that they will -probably- draw audiences at least as big as on the Awake tour, yet they're playing cesspits and garderobes. I saw them at the State Theater in downtown Detroit (and escaped with my life), a great venue with a good-sized crowd. Two balconies; it looked like it was 80% sold out. Call it c. 4,000 people. Where are they playing this time in Detroit? Apparently somewhere smaller..... > Well, if DT was smart, and we all know they are, don't > bother recording it. Put out another EP, get a new label (I > believe they just have 1 more recording to do then they are > free from all contract obligations) Give the new label the > song, well, don't GIVE them the song but record it and then > that basically tells the current label "Ha, we screwed you > over". So, theres that little logical bit, why record Met 2 > under Elektra, thats what elektra is waiting for. At least get > a label that can do some good for the band. Easier said than done. Sure, someone like Metal Blade or Roadrunner might like them, but they don't have the moxie (read: money) that Elektra has IF THEY WANT TO COMMIT IT. An example of What Money Can Buy: we've been talking about the nice coverage DT got in METAL EDGE. What? Did you think the magazine did that out of the goodness of their hearts? Out of a sense of duty to the prog movement? Hardly! The reason for the coverage is on page 7.... > As for touring, do what Iced Earth does, do it yourself. Might work if Jammers in individual cities could help with promotion, getting the word out, scouting venues, etc. But who pays for the radio ads? Etc..... Hint: if ya buy radio ads for a show and offer free goodies to the station, they JUST might add your song for a few spins. -- +-- I know it's easier to walk away than look it in the eye.... ---+ | I would raise a shelter to the sky... (Dream Theater, | | And here beneath this star tonight I lie.... "Surrounded") | +-- Paul W. Cashman email_address_removed http://www.crl.com/~vanyel --+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 23:15:59 -0700 From: Eckie To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Alan Estrada wishes to contact you on Message-ID: Alan MUST DIE!!!! ~Eckie didn't need that, did you? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 97 01:55:33 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" To: email_address_removed, email_address_removed, email_address_removed, email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT concert gatherings web site Message-ID: Some people have mailed me saying that they can't get into the site. I checked into it, and it turns out the FTP server was having trouble when I uploaded the files. I've re-uplaoaded them, and it should all be working fine. Sorry about the delay. http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/3771/dt.html -Brian ******************************************************************************** "I may have wasted all those years, but they're not worth their time in tears." -John Myung of Dream Theater ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 00:07:41 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" To: "'DT'" Subject: NDTC Message-ID: FYI If you like Artension (page down, Rick), thier vocalist John West just came out with a solo cd called John West's Mind Journey. It's on Shrapnel and features Shrapnel solo artist George Bellas on guitar, Barry Sparks (Malmsteen, MSG) on bass, drummer Mike Terrana (Malmsteen, MacAlpine) and keyboardist Matt Guillory (?). IMO it's pretty good with lots of neo-classical (barouque), odd time sigs and noodling guitar and keyboard solos. I think the average Jammer would like it. (Not you stuck-up, elitist Yste-snobs. You know who you are.) :) Trevor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 02:35:19 -0400 From: JB To: email_address_removed Subject: Quarky timing & Frickin VT radio Message-ID: 2 things... first on a lighter note... looked at the song listing (for FII as of a year ago...), now of course some of the songs aren't on there, but for the one's that are... the time has gone down in every case.... Song Original time FII time TAMP (6:35) (6:03) YNM (5:55) (4:59) AL (6:35) (5:52) BMS (9:00) (5:29) LitS (13:40) (12:05) JLMB (5:15) (5:29) now I can understand the BMS (Hell's kitchen spawning), but it just makes you wonder how much the label made them "trim the ...." well, I was going to say trim the fat, but I doubt that applies, since DT said it was "finished" at the time (with those playing times)... probably more like "trim the Grade A beef!!"... anyway, for metropolis2, I'd like to see some of those songs which were pushed off FII for an EP... i.e. Raise the Knife, Where are you Now, and The Way it Used to Be, plus a few others here and there... *******SECOND... This part pisses me off....********** Seems that the musically inept program director here at WUVT (Va Tech radio) has come to an amazing revelation... that Progressive Rock/metal has no place on the VT radio... yep, after 3 shows, I've been cancelled because, "what you play doesn't fit right with the station as a whole"... WTF??? First off, I was given this show in an "open disc" format (basically whatever you want... we have people using it for Cultrual music, rap, alternative, metal, etc.), yet playing prog doesn't fit in with these OPEN times... (I've been playing DT (of course), Rush, Savatage, Fates Warning, Satch, Vai, Johnson, Genesis, Yes, Nouveaux, etc.), been doing my (required) rotations (of crappy music) to schedule... just so something like this wouldn't happen (don't want to give em an excuse)... Second, I'm playing it at 2 in the morning... a time when only Prog listeners are awake to care.... I've been a DJ for over 6 years now, and have never had any sh!+ like this happen before... time to go back to some real radio (i.e. my 5 disc changer). JLMB reatlly applies here. I'll post the guy's email as soon as I get it.. then maybe y'all can help me get my slot back (or an even better one... 2-4 am's not reaching many, AND I **DO** have classes in the morning!!! :) Plus a few hundred emails in his box might make me feel better. Pissed off at the fu**ing program director (who I have never seen move from the chair he sloths/oozes in at the station in the hours that I'm there)... Later, Jason -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jason Brindel Computer Engineering '97 Virginia Tech email_address_removed http://www.vt.edu:10021/B/beamup (540)961-7262 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 97 09:02:35 -0800 From: email_address_removed To: Subject: Live In Tokyo... Message-ID: Hi, Got the Live In Tokyo Video last night - just slightly awesome! It's good that half the songs aren't listed on the cover - made it much more enjoyable. Wifey got rather excited and tried to work out what she's gonna wear when we see them - I'm gonna be gutted if they don't come to the UK. Tour dates anyone? Dave (a UK Jammer). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:22:20 +0100 (BST) From: "Luca Benni (studente 150 ore)" <> To: email_address_removed Subject: ITALY: the prog nation ! Message-ID: Yes, in Italy many good bands that play progressive metal or only progressive. I'm DJ in a small radio station (my program is called RADIO ALTERNATIVE) and some labels and bands send me promo stuff and so I listen many prog bands... do you want some names ?? COERCIVE (only one incredible demo) ELDRITCH (you know, isn't it ?) SKYLARK (I see good reviews in Italy. They are with UNDERGROUND SYMPHONY, a great italian label that have in the catalogue also a good double CD compilation with many italian prog & power metal bands) MYSTERY DE NOTRE DAME ( techno prog metal ) !! ARKHE' (like D.T. sound ! They are with U. SYMPHONY) EXAWATT (my band !! true progressive metal !!!) GOLEM (a great "died" band !!!) TIME MACHINE (strange guitar sound but good !! Last Ep is the best !!) NOVA MALA STRANA (old influences) RHAPSODY (they are with LMP Management, the manager of Angra and others. Filippo from LUCRETIA RECORDS will send me a promo and he tell me that they are great !!) and other bands that I forgot (about 10/12 !!!!) These bands are young, but if you want we have also some great progressive bands in '70 !!! If anyone want some material, we can trade with other good bands or I can dub you some tapes !!! My address is email_address_removed.it If anyone want to send me some promo stuff for my radio my address is: LUCA BENNI, via dei GERANI, 10 06019 - UMBERTIDE (ITALY) (I also write reviews and interviews for some italian zines !) BYE BYE !!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:39:53 -0700 (MST) From: durnik To: email_address_removed Subject: YEEEEHA!! DreamServer online! Message-ID: Well, it's a glorious day in CD-Land. The Dream Server "Rand" is now up and running, and CD production has never been so fast. My regular system "Mat" is cranking as always, and I'm netting on the laptop, "Perrin". Got me some blanks, got me some time... shit, I'm gonna run out of liners before I can even finish out tomorrow's run. :) double 4x4 burners means Mike shall be catching up in the very near future. Take care all!! Also got the 3" Japanese CD bonus of FII. The TAMP demo is much heavier than the final song, and has full metal-style drumming rather than the Latino beat on the album version. It's also too slow. I like both versions for their own sakes, but the album version, even if the only difference were the stunning solo, takes the prize. Also "Speak to Me" isn't _bad_, but it's weak compared to the FII crop. I can tell why they left it off. Still well worth the listen, both of them, if they ever release the BMS single so it can be had for cheap. -Mikey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:21:35 +0000 (WET) From: Marco Nuno da Silva Goncalves To: DT mailing list Subject: ANGRA Mailing List Message-ID: Hello everybody. Anyone can tell me if there is any Angra Mailing list. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 20:13:14 +1000 From: "Luke B." To: email_address_removed Subject: Is Olli out there ? Message-ID: I am to believe that someone named Olli posted on the Jam a message that appeared Oct 5th about DT touring in Australia. If 'Olli' is out there and sees this post then could he mail me privately with all the info available on DT touring Australia. OR, if anyone knows anything about DT touring in Australia, then could they foward me any info. Thanks, Luke - (A devoted Aussie DT fan). ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3077 **************************