YTSEJAM Digest 3063 Today's Topics: 1) Merry Axemas by email_address_removed 2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3051 by "Graham Boyle" 3) Sorry by "Graham Boyle" 4) DT hits it biiiiig by Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wallstr=F6m?= 5) Re: Billboard Position by "James" 6) re: Royal Hunt by Arash Ashouriha 7) Re: Royal Hunt (the corect mail) by Arash Ashouriha 8) Poison-Crack A Smile CD for auction by "Kevin" 9) Blackened by durnik 10) Re: Geddy's nail/Myung in the mix by "Peter Tatischev" 11) Re: Geddy's nail/Myung in the mix by "Peter Tatischev" 12) Peruvian Skies by email_address_removed 13) Erotomania and other stuff... by email_address_removed 14) Meshuggah by Chris Genigeski 15) Re: 6:00 by Jon Veal 16) Toad show/misheard lyric by email_address_removed (Pat Sullivan) 17) Re: **Confirmation on Toad's Place** by "ÞrØgßø¥" 18) FW: Windows 95 themes by Eddie J Cooper 19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3062 by email_address_removed (Barb Battaglia) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 03:18:17 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Merry Axemas Message-ID: What is Merry Axemas? Does it include members of DT? Hell, I was happy to see that JP and MP are doing another project! BTW, if any of you still think Kevin Shirley is a bad producer, I am still inclined to disagree. FII is great, but I am also a HUGE Journey fan. I was raised on Journey because of my older brother and sister. I must say, "The Caveman" is great at producing Journey! If you haven't listened to their latest work TRIAL BY FIRE, get it and listen to it. You will know what I mean by good producing! Later, Jeff E. P.S. Steve Perry is the only guy I can honestly put next to James LaBrie in the vocal section....Steve Perry has one of the best voices to ever come into the music scene (IMHO). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:15:49 +1000 From: "Graham Boyle" To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3051 Message-ID: Evan, I live in Sydney, I have a FF96 CD that I can dub for you, quality is good. Providence 12-12-96 show gRaham_ ---------- > From: Evan Thomson > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3051 > Date: Friday, 3 October 1997 14:57 > > > Hello all, > > I have to been meaning to ask if anyone would be interested in a tape trade. I'm looking for a good copy of the fix for '96 show(s). I have quite a few to offer in return. Somebody email me back if interested. Andy Keegan (are you still around) I've dealt with you before.... > > By the way - I'm in Australia and I don't trade in DATs.. > > > thanks in advance someone... > > > P.S. Brian Cox need NOT apply. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:22:41 +1000 From: "Graham Boyle" To: Subject: Sorry Message-ID: that last note was supposed to be sent privately. My apologies gRaham_ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:32:40 +0100 From: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wallstr=F6m?= To: email_address_removed Subject: DT hits it biiiiig Message-ID: >Just thought y'all might like to know that DT has debuted at #52 on >Billboard's Top 200. Cruise on over to www.billboard.com to see for >yourself. Anyone know how high Awake went? Go DT!!! Then everyone, let us all go out and buy a second album! :) Cool newZ! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 00:58:27 -0700 From: "James" To: Subject: Re: Billboard Position Message-ID: <01bccfd2$21e26c20$message_id_removed> >Just thought y'all might like to know that DT has debuted at #52 on >Billboard's Top 200. Cruise on over to www.billboard.com to see for >yourself. Anyone know how high Awake went? Go DT!!! Great! FII debuted at #52. But its not too hard to debut at 52..... The real test of "popularity" on the charts is a run of many weeks on the chart, like Dark Side of The Moon (hehe thats a little extreme) but you know, at least 20-30 weeks on the chart. I've seen countless albums make the chart the first few weeks and quickly dive off again.... not that it means shit to me. I mean just being realistic, taking into account how fickle the record buying public is...... do you REALLY think FII is going to become very popular? Come on.....be honest. Oh, I did read a fairly long interview in METAL EDGE with the whole band (sans DS) If you have a chance check it out... it was good reading. JLB really made it obvious that he is the one more that anyone else in the band that wants DT to become a real popular group. They talked a lot about how this time around the recording process was a LOT different than on any of their previous albums, and a TON about how Kevin influenced them throughout. gotta go.. peace James ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 10:30:58 -0700 From: Arash Ashouriha To: email_address_removed Subject: re: Royal Hunt Message-ID: Hi Juan Fco. Quintero wrote : >Can someone tell me what is the best album of Royal Hunt, because I was >going to buy Paradox (Magna Carta label) but the store that I visited only >have Clown In The Mirror. >Land Of Broken Hearts >Clown In The Mirror >Moving Target >1996 >Paradox >JFQC- Thank you!! :) All albums are good but PARADOX is the best. After that you should buy 1996 which is live 2CD and contains all good songs before Paradox. Check out my page for some samples from Paradox on Monday. Arash -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PROG OR DIE - The Progressive Music Page | | | | DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING - ROYAL HUNT - SHADOW GALLERY | | | | http://lionel.kr.fh-niederrhein.de/~ashouria/index.htm | | | | by Arash Ashouriha | | | | email_address_removed.de | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 10:32:52 -0700 From: Arash Ashouriha To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Royal Hunt (the corect mail) Message-ID: Sorry I think this is the corect mail. Juan Fco. Quintero wrote : >Can someone tell me what is the best album of Royal Hunt, because I was >going to buy Paradox (Magna Carta label) but the store that I visited only >have Clown In The Mirror. >Land Of Broken Hearts >Clown In The Mirror >Moving Target >1996 >Paradox >JFQC- Thank you!! :) All albums are good but PARADOX is the best. After that you should buy 1996 which is live 2CD and contains all good songs before Paradox. Check out my page for some samples from Paradox on Monday. Arash -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PROG OR DIE - The Progressive Music Page | | | | DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING - ROYAL HUNT - SHADOW GALLERY | | | | http://lionel.kr.fh-niederrhein.de/~ashouria/index.htm | | | | by Arash Ashouriha | | | | email_address_removed.de | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 03:46:08 -0500 From: "Kevin" To: Subject: Poison-Crack A Smile CD for auction Message-ID: Well, I picked up the professional boot (It also has MTV unplugged on it) that is listed as Promotional Use Only and I do know that it is extremely rare. I would be willing to part with it for the right offer. If interested, email me at email_address_removed PS-DT content-FII kicks funky ASS! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 02:10:25 -0700 (MST) From: durnik To: email_address_removed Subject: Blackened Message-ID: The greater part of Metallica's "Blackened" is in 6/4. You can count one...two...three...four...five...six...one...two... etc. This includes the verses. It could be interpreted as 6/8 also depending on how they've tabbed it out. -Mike email_address_removed://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:46:50 +0300 From: "Peter Tatischev" To: Subject: Re: Geddy's nail/Myung in the mix Message-ID: Tedesco, Matthew wrote > Interesting thought here. I was immediately drawn to FII, and being a > bassist, one of the huge attractions was Myung's prominence in the mix. > Somebody a little back posted about how Prater knew how to keep the bass > in its place, and I was pretty horrified at that one. Point is, with > the bass moving up in the mix, and the low end playing a more prominent > role in the music with each album, maybe that's why some guitarists I > know are pining for the I&W days.... > Right, man, I wrote this about Prater. Don't bame me and think that I acn't understand what you feel - I am a bassist myself, so that is great that now Myung is heard so weel, that I can get his lines much easier, but still I consider Awake (and I&W) better mixed because on FII the bass sounds a little bit too loud - I guess that teh rhythm section should not be that loud, as one of the famous bassists said: A good bassist should always be ready to be almost unhearable.... Note, that this is just MHO ======================================= Untie these strings, I'm climbing down I won't let them push me away Change Of Seasons, lyrics by Mike Portnoy Peter Tatischev email_address_removed ======================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:51:13 +0300 From: "Peter Tatischev" To: Subject: Re: Geddy's nail/Myung in the mix Message-ID: Tedesco, Matthew wrote > Interesting thought here. I was immediately drawn to FII, and being a > bassist, one of the huge attractions was Myung's prominence in the mix. > Somebody a little back posted about how Prater knew how to keep the bass > in its place, and I was pretty horrified at that one. Point is, with > the bass moving up in the mix, and the low end playing a more prominent > role in the music with each album, maybe that's why some guitarists I > know are pining for the I&W days.... > Right, man, I wrote this about Prater. Don't bame me and think that I acn't understand what you feel - I am a bassist myself, so that is great that now Myung is heard so weel, that I can get his lines much easier, but still I consider Awake (and I&W) better mixed because on FII the bass sounds a little bit too loud - I guess that teh rhythm section should not be that loud, as one of the famous bassists said: A good bassist should always be ready to be almost unhearable.... Note, that this is just MHO And one more, for the guy, who asked whether JM used a pick - definetely not, I guess that he just had really strong attack there - I can make my Yamaha RBX sound like that if I play really strong and overload the amplifier just a bit. ======================================= Untie these strings, I'm climbing down I won't let them push me away Change Of Seasons, lyrics by Mike Portnoy Peter Tatischev email_address_removed ======================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 06:54:10 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Peruvian Skies Message-ID: This song sounds like a great lost Galactic Cowboys tune, especially the middle section and the harmonies. Gonzo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 06:55:26 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Erotomania and other stuff... Message-ID: Hi everybody, I wanted to post about OFB's glorious entry in the German album charts but Arash beat me at it ;-) , so here's something else (I'm in a posting mood; doesn't happen often, don't worry): MrQ wrote: >Is it just me or does anyone else HATE that friggin wankin' Petrucci does >in the middle of Erotomania? The instrumental is amazing in it's melodies >and textures and does not need that neo-classical shit going off where it >plainly doesn't fit. It sounds like it was lifted right off of an old >Cacophany disc (Jason Becker and Marty Friedman) from the 80's. DT's >"showing off" is usually in good taste and improves the song for the most >part but that part is absolute shit. OK - I'm done now. :P You're not the only one... I wouldn't go so far as calling that part 'shit', but this is the *only* moment in all of DT's songs that I really don't like. I'm just glad that they took it out of PMU where it's originally from... I just hate that neo-classical guitar playing in general. That's probably one of the reasons that I'm not too excited about Symphony X. TDWOT is a good disc (a lot better than The Damnation Game IMO), but some of those parts are still pretty annoying to me... Disclaimer: The above paragraph was not meant to offend anybody who enjoys that neo-classical guitar stuff, so calm down. Something completely different: Does anybody know if there has been any statement from the band about that collaboration with Desmond Child? I think YNM is a great song (although I'm not sure if it will age as well as most of DT's other stuff, we'll see...), but I just can't imagine that DT asked their label for help with the songwriting... My nipple about FII after almost two weeks: It's not perfect. But it's still fantastic. Best album I've bought since, uh, ACOS probably... I like it even much better than Spock's Beard's Beware of Darkness which is saying *a lot*... Ok, posting mood's over... Take Care, Andreas Berger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 07:59:16 -0400 From: Chris Genigeski To: email_address_removed Subject: Meshuggah Message-ID: Any Meshuggah fans around here? No, they're no DT, but definitely #2 on my list. If anyone's got any info on them send it my way. All I know is they're Swedish, and if you like the heavy technical stuff you'll love 'em. They're all really good, but the drummer is killer- and the band is.....dare I say....tighter than DT? They're almost too tight, TOO good. Somethin' must be up... Chris. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:01:49 +0100 (BST) From: Jon Veal To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: 6:00 Message-ID: > Hi, > > Shai Yallin wrote - > > --------- > Am I the only jammer that got converted by 6:00? > --------- > > No, you are not - I did as well! > > I heard them play it live on a late night Radio program (UK Radio 1 - > hosted by Bruce Dickinson no less...). It took my head off completely > and I bought Awake the very next day. This still remains my fave > album (although I haven't heard FII yet!). Umm..me too. Must be a UK jammer thing. Does anyone have the DT bit of the show on tape ? Jon. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 08:59:08 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Pat Sullivan) To: email_address_removed Subject: Toad show/misheard lyric Message-ID: > >New Haven Ct. - Toad's Place Oct 25, a Saturday. All I can say is they better play a show in MA/RI before that one. I'm getting married on the 25th, and if the Toad's show is my first opportunity to see a show on this tour, I'm going to have to blow of^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hdeal with the disappointment as best I can. And if there *is* a show at, say, the Strand a week or two prior to this show, then you are all invited to my bachelor party 'cause that'll be where it'll be. :) ----- >I dunno if any of you can relate, but there's a lyric line in "Trial of >Tears" that has been throwing me off since I bought the CD. After several I've got one that I always hear wrong in "New Millenium"....where James sings "People so cold ruthless"......I hear "People who go through flesh" Again, it doesn't make sense, but what can I say. :) ----- _____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________________ E-mail: email_address_removed IRC: DDictator WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html NP: Dream Theater - "Falling Into Infinity" ______________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 10:24:35 -0400 From: "ÞrØgßø¥" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: **Confirmation on Toad's Place** Message-ID: YtseJim wrote: > Since i was at Toad's Place tonight to see the Dickinson show (which by > the way, kicked major ass) > I saw the advertisement for Dream Theater Oct 25 doors open 6pm, show at > 6:30pm. > Just thought i would confirm the date... > Kinda strange that it is such an early show.... > > YtseJim maybe theyre gonna play for 6 hours :) :) damn you guys are luckY :) -- In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 15:37:42 +0100 From: Eddie J Cooper To: "'Desmond Child Fan Club'" Subject: FW: Windows 95 themes Message-ID: <01BCD012.4C01B3E0.eddie@abacus.co.uk> Sorry, I should have made this clearer ;) Can someone please mail me with an offer of DT Themes for '95 via email ... as we have just had a firewall installed that makes it very tricky for me to browse the web... :( Laterz Eddie };-)~ Eddie J Cooper (Analyst / Programmer) CTL Manufacturing, Waterside, Brunel Way, Stroudwater Business Park, Stonehouse Gloucestershire, GL10 3SW, Tel: (01453) 794128 / Fax: (01453) 825424 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 11:36:56 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Barb Battaglia) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3062 Message-ID: >Since i was at Toad's Place tonight to see the Dickinson show (which by >the way, kicked major ass) I saw the advertisement for Dream Theater Oct >25 doors open 6pm, show at 6:30pm. Hot damn! Now is this the kick off of the official tour or do we need to charter a Ytse bus to the show for everyone? Could someone clarify this for me? >Kinda strange that it is such an early show.... Well it could be because of their children. I know that for several years, I've had to work stuff around my daughter's schedule - so perhaps that's it. Or it could be a misprint. Somebody tell us some dates!!!! Management? I know that you must be reading this (evil grin)... -BABS "I watched you down, but you never came through nothing to declare - like a sign hangin' on my name" - Steve Hogarth "h", Nothing to Declare ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 3063 **************************