YTSEJAM Digest 2994 Today's Topics: 1) Re: DT's progability by The Phoenix 2) Zildjian day with Dennis Chambers by "Peter Tatischev" 3) RE: YTSEJAM digest 2993 (Rush) by "Emerson, Michael" 4) Re: Bruce by Graham Borland 5) Re: Domain name advice? by email_address_removed 6) Re: DT Album Covers by Rogerio Brito 7) DT on the radio! by Misha Horowitz 8) Seven Wonders, etc. by "David Whitaker" 9) Matt's Right by DaveH 10) Rush albums by Mark Jeffrey McEuen 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2993 (Rush) by Albert Balkiewicz 12) a short first listen FII review/ Megadeth in Budapest by Szilagyi Bela 13) CD reviews.....bumper sticker of the day by Albert Balkiewicz 14) Richard Johnson guitar clinic by Glover 15) New Elektra site! by Brian Wherry 16) Song titles reflected in the cover artwork... by Seroussi ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 10:12:49 -0500 (CDT) From: The Phoenix To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT's progability Message-ID: Ernesto said: > Satriani, Extreme, Rush, and most recently Tool. And that's what I'm > looking for in DT's music. Not odd time sigs and difficult solos. I don't > care if they write simple songs, change the logo, shave their heads, > whatever. As long as they have undesbribable thing they will remain my > favorite band. Anybody else feel the same way? I know exactly what you mean. I was obsessed with DT long before I realized how talented they had to be to pull off some of the stuff they did. Does anyone else feel the same sense that time has no meaning when listening to DT? I can listen to ACOS or WFS and barely notice the difference in time. All right, that's an extreme example, but I first got I&W on cassete. The times are not listed for the individual song on the tape. I didn't realize how long the songs were till I got the CD a year and a half later. I seriously didn't even notice the 9 minute difference between WFS and LTL. I just sort of space out when I listen to DT, I guess. And what is also strange is that even today, after hundreds of listens to each album, I hear something new everytime. -~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_- | Robert Taylor The world may seem flown away | | email_address_removed Almost as if it cannot be saved | | The Phoenix Will we be able to rise | | From these ashes we've sown | -~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 19:17:13 +0400 From: "Peter Tatischev" To: Subject: Zildjian day with Dennis Chambers Message-ID: Hello there in the jam!!!! Although this message is not connected with DT in any way, but still.... Anyway, those who are interested only in DT can simply skip it...... Yesterday I was to the Zildjian day over here, actually the first part of the show was not very interesting - there were local drummers, who were very good, but comparing to what was later, they were simply poor. But, when Dennis came out to the stage and started playing - wow!!!!! To be honest, never before I heard a drum player playing alone for that long, he played for more than 30 minutes without having a second break. He is unbeliviebly fast - the things played using only ONE bass drum were that fast that everybody thought that he must probably using the double bass, but he really played it with only one bdrum and one pedal. I am not discussing his hands technique here, cause there are no words I can say about it, only - that is really fast, and unlike many fast drummers he doesn't use the snare only, but he plays all over the kit, and that is a thing to look at. Hey!!! If there is a Zildjian day in the city where you live - go and see it!!! That is a must! Ok, that's all for now.. Please, if anybody knows any records where Dennis plays, please, email me. ======================================= Untie these strings, I'm climbing down I won't let them push me away Change Of Seasons, lyrics by Mike Portnoy Peter Tatischev tatisch@glasnet.ru ======================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 12:02:54 -0400 From: "Emerson, Michael" To: email_address_removed Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 2993 (Rush) Message-ID: <71384B73B76AD0119FE900A024C9E09E1AB3EB@MAIL> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCC74F.76EE3E00 Content-Type: text/plain > YTSEJAM Digest 2993 > > 6) FII First impression > by "Benny Dell'Ariccia" > > P.S. 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Yes. Bruce and co. are supporting Lynrd Skynrd on their upcoming UK tour . . . is it worth paying 17 pounds for 45 minutes of Bruce and Adrian? I think so. During the interval, I will probably leave the concert and go to the pub, with no intention of returning for the Skynrd set. Only four weeks until Falling Into Infinity is released. Whoopy Doo. Graham -- Graham Borland Email : gborland@apsoft.co.uk WWW : http://www.apsoft.co.uk Alternative Publishing Ltd Tel : 0141 418 0881 30 Clyde Place, Glasgow G5 8AQ Fax : 0141 418 0889 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 18:30:50 +0200 From: email_address_removed To: , , , Subject: Re: Domain name advice? Message-ID: > Jason Breitweg, email_address_removed.de, http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg > "Heavy Metal ist nicht tot!" - Kai Hansen (September 17,1997 Hamburg, Germany) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ No. It is reborn again. And even better than It was reborn on my birthday ??? :-) it was before... Bye... Andreas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 14:01:44 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: DT Album Covers Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Sep 1997, Marcelo Vanzin wrote: > Aside from that, there's another thing I've not seen (if that picture > in Mike Bahr's page is the album cover, I'm not sure of it =) ): the > "cover puzzle" thing, the "coincidences" between the artwork in the > cover and the songs names/lyrics... Sure... Both "Images & Words" and "Awake" covers have references to the songs or objects from the songs. Images and Words: - the sparrow falling; - the bed; - the portrait frame the little girl is holding; - the moon... Well, I'm not with the CD right here at the University, but I think that I could find more. Awake: - six o'clock :-); - the mirror; - the silent man; - the web; - some planets (as a reference to space-dye vest, I think); - some shadows, if I'm not mistaken. Again, I'm sure I've not listed all the things and I'm sure that other people will complete my list... Having seen just one time the new cover, I think that it matches at least elements from two songs: "Hollow Years" and "Lines in the Sand", but I'll tell you more when I get my own copy of "Falling into Infinity". :-) See ya, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 13:16:55 -0400 From: Misha Horowitz To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: DT on the radio! Message-ID: Nope, not BMS this time...TWO DT songs in two days! Last night, on WGIR = NH, I heard the very end of YNM, which was pretty damn cool, from what I = heard...then, this afternoon, at 1:00 on WAAF Boston, they were playing = the "Lost Song" thing where they bring back a song that used to be = played a lot, and whoever gets it wins two tickets to WCW Monday Nitro. = SO ANYWAY, I thought, no way, they're never going to play DT...then, = there it was, PMU, on WAAF! I never thought that they would play = something cool ever again. After an incorrect guess of "Whitesnake," = Mike Hewitt from NH got it...so Mike, if you're on the 'jam, enjoy WCW = action! Misha Horowitz "What's the matter, Colonel Sanders...CHICKEN?" --Rick Moranis ..T-1 'til Judgement Day... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 12:11:43 -0500 From: "David Whitaker" To: Subject: Seven Wonders, etc. Message-ID: <19970922171250.AAA1356@hombre> Anyone who e-mailed me in the past day (and haven't received a reply from me) needs to e-mail me again, because I lost everything in that time span. "Seven Wonders" shipping is continuing right on schedule! I'm picking up 100 more liners from the printer today, so things will continue on smoothly without delay. For ordering information on "Seven Wonders", nine complete discs of Dream Theater heaven on one disc in CD-quality MP3 format, please visit: http://www.geocities.com/soho/2236 That page also houses daily status updates on your order. D. Ryan Whitaker email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 13:54:28 -0400 From: DaveH To: email_address_removed Subject: Matt's Right Message-ID: >From: "Matthew Lamoureux" >We all know DT kicks a$$ but how would 'Joe Q. AlternaGrunge' know >unless they lure him in with a song closer to what he currently listens >to? My first DT experience was hearing PMU (a 'commercial' DT song) on >the radio. It was close enough to what I liked so that I didn't change >stations, yet it was different enough to get me interested. The result >was that I bought I&W and was blown away. > My point: I would never have heard them if they had only recorded >'100% ALL-NATURAL PROG'. None of my friends listened to them. Would >that radio station (WAAF-Boston) have played songs like 'Metropolis'? >No way!! By shunning the 'commercial' songs, you're denying other >people the chance to fall in love with the dream that is Dream Theater. >You're also denying the band the opportunity to get the widespread >recognition and popularity they deserve. Sorry to get corny near the >end, but it had to be said. > > - Matt Sorry to quote the whole thing, but I think what Matt says is worth reading. In addition I think many of us get to caught up in critiquing the music we listen to with our predisposed opinions, rather than just listening to the band and giving them the freedom to produce what is right for them. Dream Theater doesn't have to write songs just for us, they should write what *they* want to play. It sure is nice of them to share it with us though ;) Too often people like us tend to confine our taste in a bands style and then panic when that band shows any sign of change, and you know what happens then... buster http://users1.ee.net/buster/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 13:03:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Jeffrey McEuen To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Rush albums Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, Benny Dell'Ariccia wrote: > P.S. I would buy the best Rush album, can you help me? This is a surefire way to start an argument, but what the heck.... I personally feel (and I think a lot of Rush fans would agree) that Hold Your Fire and Moving Pictures are their two best albums. If you prefer a more electronic sound with lots of keyboards, go for HYF. If you prefer a more guitar-oriented sound, go with MP. If you have lots of money, buy them both and see which you like better :). Something else you might want to consider is buying Chronicles, which is a two-CD set featuring songs from all of their albums (except the last three, which are newer). It doesn't show off the "progressive" side of Rush as well as I would like, but it's a good way to get an idea of what their different albums sound like. Hope this helps.... Mark McEuen email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 15:16:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Balkiewicz To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2993 (Rush) Message-ID: > > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. god, is this a pain in the ass........ > > > P.S. I would buy the best Rush album, can you help me? > > > hmmm...tough choice...if i _had_ to pin it down to just one album, it > would probably be "Hold Your Fire" (although "Grace Under Pressure" is a > _very_ close second and "Power Windows" is slightly behind at third...) > Hey, I would just say go out and buy "Chronicles", which is their 2-CD "Best of" of sorts. That way, you can see which types of songs you like the best, what album they're from, and then go on from there....... -Al -- ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ I inhale the sun...........I exhale the absence of light I am the number One..........burning. ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ email: email_address_removed email_address_removed HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 97 21:45:47 PDT From: Szilagyi Bela To: email_address_removed Subject: a short first listen FII review/ Megadeth in Budapest Message-ID: FII is a 78:20 long musical orgasm. To all Hungarian Ytsejammerz: Ha jossz a Megadeth koncertre, kuldj nekem egy sort a kov. cimre: bszyl@elender.hu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 15:52:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Balkiewicz To: email_address_removed Subject: CD reviews.....bumper sticker of the day Message-ID: Ok, two CD reviews, kinda non-prog..... Maxwell's Suite of.....(I don't have the CD on-hand) Wow....this is VERY R&B-ish, but this album kicks my ass beyond belief in some sort of way. The is very cool and mellow, the musicianship is good and grooves very nicely. But above all, this CD exudes sex like craazy. Move over, Barry White. The whole time I listened to this CD, all that was thought about was sex. Definitely a CD to have sex to. man, oh man. I don't know if it was the CD or maybe cuz I might be hard-up (as a typical male), but I'm pretty sure the CD had a lot to do with it...... Tori Amos - Under the Covers This CD is a bootleg of basically most of the covers she has done on tours, from REM's Losing My Religion, to the infamous "Smells Like Teen Spirit", to "American Pie", to "A Little Help from my Friends", etc.......indeed a very cool buy for me. Man, does she rock the more and more I buy stuff by her..... And the Bumper Sticker of the Day: "Guns don't kill people........I do" -Al -- ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ I inhale the sun...........I exhale the absence of light I am the number One..........burning. ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ email: email_address_removed email_address_removed HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 15:53:56 -0500 From: Glover To: email_address_removed Subject: Richard Johnson guitar clinic Message-ID: Hey, Has anyone here ever heard of a guitarist named Richard Johnson? I saw him in clinic at "Morrell Music" in my home town. His speciality is an extremely unique "percussive guitar technique". Not that he just bangs on his guitar. He does do some of that, but it's mostly actual playing, although in a really weird way. He claims to not know the names of any of the chords and to never have his guitar actually in tune. Anyway, he did some really amazing things on 6 and 12 string Taylor, hand-made, $12000, acoustic guitars, for he hates electric. He had a few releases on tape and CD. Using a soundboard, some employees of the shop filmed it with (I think) two cameras. I'll try to get a hold of copy. If any YtseJammer can give me more info on this guy, please email me privately. -C. Glover ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 15:57:19 -0400 From: Brian Wherry To: email_address_removed Subject: New Elektra site! Message-ID: <9709221957.AA10978@binky> There's a whole new sentence on the DT page: "With their new album Falling Into Infinity, the hailed standard-bearers of progressive hard rock Dream Theater, once again show they are in top form. Check out their first single Burning My Soul. (Soming Soon) ... and then there's the same old stuff that's been there since ACoS. FII tonight! Yeah!! Wacky ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 22:21:15 +0200 From: Seroussi To: email_address_removed Subject: Song titles reflected in the cover artwork... Message-ID: <3426D33B.20EDF1@algonet.se> This one is for all the people that were bitching about how the cover artwork doesn't contain song titles... New Millennium [note the double n, lots of people (including me) tend to misspell it...] The sea symbolizes infinity, and the flow of time is infinite. Millennium is a period of time. You Not Me The two people sitting there, are gazing at each other. From each person's point he's seeing you (the other person) not me (himself). Peruvian Skies err...you can see the sky in the picture. Hollow Years Years symbolize the theme of time, like in NM. Hollow might be the space which is unseen through the binoculars. Burning my Soul Burning, as in using fire, which is opposite to the water that stop the fire. Also, fire is timed, unlike the sea which is infinite. The human soul, or spirit, might be considered timeless. Hell's Kitchen Hell is supposedly timeless, like the infinite sea. Lines in the Sand Sand -> beach -> sea. There is a very distinct line separating the sea and the sky. Take Away My Pain Sometimes, for the pain to disappear, or to at least wane, a person might want to go to a deserted island (yes, in the infinite sea). Just Let Me Breathe If you're drowning in the sea, you will need to breathe. Also, if you are flying very high in the sky, you might experience the feeling of lack of air. Anna Lee Two proper nouns...you don't really expect me to find this in the picture, right? On a second thought, anna is some kind of a coin and lee means a shelter from winds. A coin is the shape of the lens in the binoculars (a major theme in the art work) and the particular place at sea that is shown in the picture is some kind of a lee since there's apparently no wind at all... Trial of Tears Tears -> water -> sea. Sea of tears? I - It's raining ..and what fills the infinite sea, but the infinite cycle of nature? II - Deep in Heaven Deep usually refers to the sea. The sky in the picture give a somewhat "heavenly" feeling. III - The Wasteland The wasteland is opposite to the sea. This presentation was to show you all how you can find secret meanings where you didn't expect to find them... ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2994 **************************