YTSEJAM Digest 2984 Today's Topics: 1) Yeahhh! FALLING INTO INFINITY is here!!!!!!!!!!! by "Francesco" 2) Just Let Me Breed :) by Jon Parmet 3) Re: DT turned down Rudess? by Damon Fibraio 4) Lemur Voice update, The gathering by Marcel Coenen 5) Re: Rudess/Morgenstein by Damon Fibraio 6) Morganstein by Damon Fibraio 7) Set list request... by Shane Liebling 8) Indian Homeopathic remedies by "R. Ananda" 9) Rush question by Mike Pontrelli 10) Lifting shadows off a Lurker by email_address_removed (Michael Bradley) 11) Acoustic Spirits! by "David Whitaker" 12) ATTN: Dave (a UK jammer) by "Christopher R. Merlo" 13) Re: APSOG boot.....great idea! by Anton Max 14) More CDs available, etc. by durnik 15) UNCLASSIFIED:-AUSTRALIAN FII Release Date ? by email_address_removed.au 16) UNCLASSIFIED:-New Savatage, Rush 'Mirrors' and other CD bootlegs by email_address_removed.au 17) Jordan Rudess by Isaac Sabetai 18) Anna Lee and HolloW years by Carlos Alfaro ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 17:42:27 +0000 From: "Francesco" To: email_address_removed Subject: Yeahhh! FALLING INTO INFINITY is here!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: Hi guys, I bought few minutes ago a copy of FII just released today here in Italy!! :) The artwork is nice, but the greetings are practically absent.. Anyway.... THEY'RE BACK ! :) Francesco http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lights/5169 e-mail mailto:amendo@tno.it ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:51:44 +0000 From: Jon Parmet To: email_address_removed Subject: Just Let Me Breed :) Message-ID: Mark Metzger: > It may or may not be their best, but that discussion should be left for > at least a few months. Or perhaps left out altogher? :) > this is a GREAT new CD !! "The best" is not necessary. "Great" is both necessary and sufficient. It appears we have met those criteria. Now it's time to ROCK!!!!!!!! Brandon Vaughn: > Or better yet, how about being the first prog group to introduce the > belch and fart as part of the prog arsenal? Too late! Zappa already beat 'em to it, along with a buffet of other interesting sounds :) > I'll be first in line; how about you? Quit fucking cutting in line, asshole! :) I was watching Fantastic Futures last night on The Learning Channel. The subject matter was about Robots and specifically Robot Domination. In the show, they gave sort of an historical account of movies devoted to robots and how they are going to take over the world :) The interesting thing I noticed was a movie done in 1926 called METROPROLIS!!!! Now I have to go find this to see if Metropolis is the name of a robot in it, which would, of course, add new meaning to "Metropolis watches and thoughtfully smiles"..... Buh bye :), JP *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | email_address_removed | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------* "Drifting with the current This stream of life flows on" -- John Myung ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 12:49:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT turned down Rudess? Message-ID: Maybe I was wrong. Maybe Rudis turned DT down. Dont' remember. As far as seeing ELP live, I did. Unbelieveable. Kicked my ass. These two men make me feel so unworthy of the keyboard. Anyway, if you don't like the music of Rudis/Morganstein simply because of lack of vocals, bear in mind that ELP has some songs that don't have vocals either. Either way, both are awesome. Wish there were more bands like those two. Reach Damon Fibraio at email_address_removed keyboardist, vocalist, radio personality Deviant of Reality All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars. Neil Peart of Rush ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 19:10:38 From: Marcel Coenen To: email_address_removed Subject: Lemur Voice update, The gathering Message-ID: Hi Jammers, Long time ago !!!! I've been off the web for a while, I was really busy lately, but I am back now, The homepage is also updated with some things, nothing special, but we are making arrangements for our forthcoming release (second album !!!!!!!!) Well, we did write seven songs now and we are making the eight right now, so when that is done I guess we have enough songs to fill our second CD, the songs are quite different from our first release "Insights", it is heavier (definately !!!!, more chunky guitarparts !!!!), more experimental, more emotional and a lot more experimental, so be warned........ Anyway, we have six titles so far, they are: - Lethe's Bowl - Parvedian Trust - Childhood Facade - Divided - When The Cradle Cries - Universal Roots Anyway, we are planning new gigs at the moment, we haven't played for a few months because of the arrangements for the second CD, we did record a demotape in our rehearsalroom for Magna Carta, but now we are planning more dates, for now just one is for sure and arranged: October 4th: Beneden, Sliedrecht (The Netherlands) About The gathering, it is a great band, they aren't progressive at all, their music is really simple, but it are great songs and the female singer (ANNEKE !!!!!!!!!!) is awesome, her voice is just a gift from heaven, it takes you away into infinity, just listen to their latest release "Nighttime Birds", it is almost like Pink Floyd, but still more beautiful, the female voice is just............., well, no words can describe this, just listen for yourselves, The musicians aren't really technical wonders, espcially not the guitarists, the only thing they do is playing chunky powercords and open chords, but it just fits the music perfectly. Anyway, at Friday, september 19th they are playing in my hometown, SITTARD in Fenix, I will be there, that's for sure..... Well, nice to talk to you all after this long, just keep on watching our page for more news, we will keep you informed. Take Care, Marcel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | +-- - - | | | | | * | | | +--- +-+-+ - - /--+ | / +--+ -+- +--- +--- | | | |-- | | | | | |--| | | | | | | |-- | | +------ +--- - - - +--+ | \ +---+ +--+ --- +--- +--- | | | | Marcel Coenen | | Guitarist LEMUR VOICE | | | | E-Mail: mcoenen@cobweb.nl (home) | | marcel.coenen@liberfone.nl (work) | | | | Lemur Voice Official Homepage: | | | | http://www.cobweb.nl/mcoenen/welcome.htm | | and | | http://www.mindspring.com/~syrinx/lemur.htm | | | | Check out our album "INSIGHTS" available at | | Magna Carta (USA) and Roadrunner (Europe & Japan) | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 13:03:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio To: Rick Barkhouse Subject: Re: Rudess/Morgenstein Message-ID: Two things. I never heard of that Vince guy, but i have a tape copy of the Transformers soundtrack and I think that the instrumental stuff is incredible. The rest of it is retro 80s, which is fine if you are into that stuff, which I am a little, but some of it is outright cheesey for its day. Never heard of any of the guys you mentioned, except Cairo, which I own on CD. I would definitely love some tapes. anyone want to educate me? The jam has done a lot of that for me in the two years I have been here on and off. Hell, I would've never heard of any Magna Carta stuff if it weren't for the Jam, and doing a prog rock show, but all my prog interest outside of Rush came from this list. This list even forced me to rediscover Yes and genesis, whcih only sent me down the spiral into prog rock even more. so, I ask again. Anybody with tapes of keyboard-heavy prog music that wouldn't mind making a copy for a keyboardist who would love to hear more Rudis/Morganstein type material can email me. I have nothing to trade unltess you want a copy of the RM CD. Well, maybe we can talk about things, I'd have to look through my CDs again. Reach Damon Fibraio at email_address_removed keyboardist, vocalist, radio personality Deviant of Reality All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars. Neil Peart of Rush ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 13:06:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio To: email_address_removed Subject: Morganstein Message-ID: To whomever it was who asked, he is the winger guy. Somebody sent me mail, but I torched it by accident. Reach Damon Fibraio at email_address_removed keyboardist, vocalist, radio personality Deviant of Reality All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars. Neil Peart of Rush ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:32:20 -0700 From: Shane Liebling To: email_address_removed Subject: Set list request... Message-ID: Hey all, I was wondering if someone could either send me or repost the set list(s) for the Brazilian shows. Thanks a bunch and take it easy. -Shane ____________________________________________________________________________ Shane Liebling R "All of us get lost in the darkness, email_address_removed U dreamers learn to steer by the stars CAA Layman and Ytsejammer S All of us do time in the gutter, Member of a.m.m.o. since 1997 H dreamers turn to look at the cars." -------------------------------- The Sites --------------------------------- The Short Me - http://www.hotwired.com/members/profile/demolitionman/ The Long Me - http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi Cal's RC5 Mirror Site - http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi/rc5/ Deutch Hall's Webpage - http://www.reshall.berkeley.edu/unit1/deutsch/ ---------------------------------- by Me ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 11:14:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "R. Ananda" To: Clit-see Jam Subject: Indian Homeopathic remedies Message-ID: I'm way behind on jams, but I just had to reply to Al's post from last Friday: > - This Indian guy at the convenience store (surprise) noticed > that I was getting the cough/throat drops, and suggested the > following: > - take a cigarette, take the tobacco out of > of the cigarette, put it in hot water, mix > it up, and drink it........needless to say, > I just took his word for it.... > NEVER LISTEN TO AN INDIAN PERSON WHEN IT COMES TO HOME CURES. I'm dead serious. I've have gotten some of the most fucked up advice from relatives. I was India about seven years ago, and I'm very myopic. At the time, I wore very thick glasses. One of my relatives told me that the way I can cure my near sightedness was to sit and stare at trees for 2 hours every morning for a year while eating radishes continuosly. I'm not kidding. Another one told me that not taking a dump within an hour of waking up in the morning can lead to chronic depression. Another one told me to get rid of a pimple by STARING AT IT IN A MIRROR WITHOUT BLINKING FOR 10 MINUTES EVERY MORNING. I'm fairly certain that Partha has had similar experiences. Just grin and bear the advice when it comes to you. I'm going to India in December and I expect to once again be bombarded by ridiculous advice like this. Wishing you good health, Hassana Krishnaswami Rahul Ananda: email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:50:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Pontrelli To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Rush question Message-ID: OK Jammers... I have a question... I was sitting around eating lunch with some other grad students/friends, and one of the girls there is from Toronto.. so I shyly said.. "Ah.. the home of RUSH" (she smiled =) ). At any rate.. that spurred a conversation about RUSH, and another friend from Seattle (who only listenes to pop stuff) mentioned "rush.. yeah.. my soccer coach helped write a song for them. Some guy.. neil.. neill.. cant remember his last name,.. woudl ride his cycle to the soccer field and hang out with my coach.. peter talbot" This was back in 1980 when he was 8 or 9 years old.. and he also said that it never really meant anything since he doesnt know the music at all. I am, of course, slightly jealous at this. BUT this raised some questions in my own mind. Did Neil ever live in Seattle???!?!? Thats the part that surprised me the most. Help me out here =). Now all i have to do is get my friend to introduce me to his soccer coach =) Cheers! -ponte (email_address_removed) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:38:53 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Michael Bradley) To: email_address_removed Subject: Lifting shadows off a Lurker Message-ID: Hey guys! I've been lurking for way too long, mostly because of school work. I have a question that may have been answered long ago, but here goes: What happened to Raise the Knife? Has it been renamed or scrapped? Thanks. -Mike P.S. -- Mike Pomerleau...if you see this, drop me a line, I lost your address. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:44:17 -0500 From: "David Whitaker" To: Subject: Acoustic Spirits! Message-ID: <19970918194641.AAA7456@hombre> YES! What a surprise! I just received my Acoustic Spirits CD in the mail today! I'm listening to it right now and the sound quality is *AWESOME*. The packaging is excellent, and those new edition Verbatim discs do look pretty slick. I can see why this one of Mike Bahr's favorite productions (if not the favorite). If you haven't ordered this CD yet, do it now, it's definitely worth it. D. Ryan Whitaker email_address_removed http://www.geocities.com/soho/2236 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:20:06 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" To: email_address_removed Subject: ATTN: Dave (a UK jammer) Message-ID: Sorry for the clutter, folks... Dave: I just sent you a response to your question, deleted your mail, and then had my mail bounced back to me because I typed your address wrong. Oops. :) Mail me again, and I'll see if I can't figure out this whole Internet thing. :) -Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough email_address_removed "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates email_address_removed /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 17:07:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Anton Max To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: APSOG boot.....great idea! Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 email_address_removed wrote: > > I asked Mikey Bahr not too long ago if this was a project he had planned. > But seeing as how he was in California at the time, he missed the Arizona > show. I think that with his track record, someone could be real cool > and give him their copy of the show to make a bootleg with. Chances are, > it will turn out real good and the show WAS great! I just wish I was > a DAT-Recording guru, because the Detroit show was great for the fans and > the band...they played 4 encores! So, if anyone does have the show on > DAT, please take the time and consider the options for creating a boot > that I am sure everyone would appreciate. They're going to release a live video. No need for bootlegs. -maximilian Anton Max MadMax+@cmu.edu http://thunderdome.pc.cs.cmu.edu/aepithex.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:23:05 -0700 (MST) From: durnik To: email_address_removed Subject: More CDs available, etc. Message-ID: Hi all! Just a quick note to let you all know the page at: http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik has been updated thoroughly. In addition to bringing you more up to speed on all DT-related issues, I now have available for replica the two best Rush boots ever, "Animated" and "Mirrors", among other new additions to the site (did anyone ask for Queensryche Unplugged? It's there, as "Silent Lucidity). In fact notwithstanding the numerous p/g and esl video copy boots, the archive of available Rush stuff is damn near complete, missing only stuff like Three Magicians, Live Hemispheres, Dances with the Moon, and Superconductor. For DT I have the Caught in Amsterdam show on DAT but not the actual boot CD of it, anyone have that? It's an unbelievable show with a LONG version of Metropolis played as a second encore, which has snippets of One and A Fortune In Lies in it, among other surprises. Sound is _fantastic_. And thanks to those who posted good deals on CDRs to the Jam...I'm heading over to those websites right now to see about placing an order. :) Also, the decision is _really_ near final to offer the SNES CD, Genesis CD, and so forth, as mentioned on the page. This is a blast... just ask the guys who've tried my "betas" of these CDs... Dale Newberry, Vince LuPone, and ~eckie. Take care all! - Mike Bahr - email_address_removed - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 07:57:24 +1000 From: email_address_removed.au To: email_address_removed Subject: UNCLASSIFIED:-AUSTRALIAN FII Release Date ? Message-ID: For all the Aussies on the list, last night my mate who works at Utopia Records in Sydney, told me that it was highly likely that the release date for FII in Australia will be Tuesday 23rd, the same day as the US release, he wasn't 100% sure about tit though, guess we'll find out next week. gRaham_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 08:32:31 +1000 From: email_address_removed.au To: email_address_removed Subject: UNCLASSIFIED:-New Savatage, Rush 'Mirrors' and other CD bootlegs Message-ID: Hi All, I picked up the Jap import of Savatage's 'The Wake Of Magellan' last night, this is only my first impressions of it. Firstly the cover artwork is stunning, the old Savatage name logo is gone, but the old logo wouldn't have fitted in with the rest of the cover concept. Second Jon Olivia is pictued with the band and credited as a band member again. The Music ? Let me first say that I am not a big fan of the band and I don't like any of the albums before Zak joined. But this album really impressed me from the first song to the last. Comparing it only to the other three albums that I have (EoT, HoF and DWD) I'd compare it to the style of DWD. It, to my ears it is more adventurous, dare I say it progressive than anything I have heard from them in the past, more piano/keyboards and some great singing and vocal melodies from Zak. BTW, there are no extra songs credited on the Jap import either. Rush 'Mirrors' boot, picked up the CD a couple of weeks ago from an online store in Singapore, great quality boot and the band's performance is superb too. It is one of the best boots I have ever heard from any band and I have heard quite a few. I don't have the URL handy, I will post that tonight from home, but they have a great selection of boots, including the Fix for 96 Providence show (12/12/96) I have ordered from them a couple of times, only 7 days to ship to me, although the last package arrived with every jewel case smashed. gRaham_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 18:49:20 -0400 From: Isaac Sabetai To: email_address_removed Subject: Jordan Rudess Message-ID: > Hey, I always thought that Rudess turned down DT in order to tour with > the Dixie Dregs. Not that it has any real importance right now. :) > Please correct me if I'm wrong. > Rudess turned DT down to play with the Dregs. To tell you how good he is, he did not have much time to rehearse with DT for the few shows he played, so he sight read all the keyboard parts on stage. Isaac ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 20:13:43 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro To: email_address_removed Subject: Anna Lee and HolloW years Message-ID: Ive just finished listening to both these songs on cd quality mp3.. 44hz and all.. These songs are sooooooo great.. i dont know how people have been putting them down as cheesy.. ..ok anna lee has a bit cheesy part..but..they are really emotional driven..and beautiful..i loved em right frmo the start... im dloading LiTS mp3 as we speak... thanx to a friend of mine.. hehe -- Carpe Diem...Seize the Day... Dream Theater: A Change of Seasons http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229 ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2984 **************************