YTSEJAM Digest 2934 Today's Topics: 1) Re: uncovered by Rogerio Brito 2) Re: Cryptic Writings (was Re: ...) by Rogerio Brito 3) Re: new songs by Rogerio Brito 4) just a quick reminder .... by "Ryan P. Skadberg" 5) Re: Satriani & White Men Can't Thump by Alexandre Lymberopoulos 6) Re: Metallica Covering a CCR Song by email_address_removed 7) Re: Drums by Andrew Berry 8) Eckie's comments... by Nick Giannotti 9) Re: Metallica Covering a CCR Song by Rogerio Brito 10) by "Jeremy C. Hallum" 11) Eckie's rant by The Phoenix 12) The 3 songs on Hardradio by David Di Tivoli 13) Psychological Effects of Album Sleeve Design by David Di Tivoli 14) Re: uncovered by Michael Kizer 15) Satch ranking by Marcelo Vanzin 16) Re: Eckie's Rant... by Michael Kizer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:47:40 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: uncovered Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, Joshua P. Walkowicz wrote: > I was hoping to get some opinions on the "Uncovered" cd. A local > store has it, and it sounds like it would be good, however, they want > 60 bucks for it. Does anybody think that it is worth that much, or > are all the highlights already on ACOS? Don't get this album from them. Get the album from someone else that charges you less. It is definitely not worth the 60 bucks (I think that we are talking about the Kobra Records release, right?). It has a very high hiss, very noticeable on the first song (the Elton John cover). Summarizing: great material, poor recording/sound quality. It is worth up to 40, but nothing more than this. Get it from Mike Bahr. > Thanks, > Josh > email_address_removed Hope this helps, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:53:06 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Cryptic Writings (was Re: ...) Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, Andrew Berry wrote: > I think Cryptic Writings is the best album of the year so far. It's not > as heavy or fast as, for instance, Rust In Peace, but the melodies, > musicianship and overall arrangements of the songs are second to none. Well, I think that most of the songs have not that good melodies, but overall, it is a good album. Much better, with much better melodies is Opeth's (aha! I found out about this band, thanks to Ernesto Schnack!) "Morningrise". Simply incredible. But I don't know if it was released this year. But Cryptic Writings has one of the best songs that I have ever heard "She Wolf" (the chorus part is soo catchy that it gets playing in my head without any effort). Of course, that "A Fortune in Lies" intro helps the song to have its great effect. :-) And I have not even touched the subject of "Motorbreath". :-) > -- > +--Andrew Berry (webmaster, Metal Links) ----------------------------------+ > | 4700 links to metal pages - http://www.aberry.demon.co.uk/metallinks/ | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ So, it seems that you like (or at least, listen) to some darker/extreme metal, righ? :-) []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:57:00 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: new songs Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, Pat Daugherty wrote: > Is it just me or does the beginning part to Peruvian Skies sound like > something on Metallica's black album? If they (DT) haven't changed from the Fix for '96 shows, then the beginnig is *very* similar to Metallica's "Bleeding Me". Interesting. :-) []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:01:50 -0400 From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" To: email_address_removed Subject: just a quick reminder .... Message-ID: Hi All ... Just a quick reminder to everyone. Sunday, September 7th is D-Man's birthday. Everyone make sure to send him birthday wishes. His email address is email_address_removed Skadz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 13:09:52 -0300 (EST) From: Alexandre Lymberopoulos To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Satriani & White Men Can't Thump Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, Vincent G. LuPone wrote: > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 21:31:02 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Vincent G. LuPone" > Reply-To: email_address_removed > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Satriani & White Men Can't Thump > > > The Eckmeister wrote: > >> I would like to know what are the best Satriani's cds......tnx for help... > >> > >All of them!!! Well, 'cept for that "blues" album.... > >He helped prove white guys can't do blues...but boy do we try! > > Yeah, just too bad Stevie Ray proved white guys can do the BEST blues :) > Heheh, well, aside from Ralph Macchio ;)~ > Yeah, just add Jonny Lang and Kenny Wayne Shepherd. They have 16 and 20 years old respectivelly, and their sound rules!!! []s, lymber. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexandre Lymberopoulos - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~lymber Undergraduate Mathematics Student - University of Sao Paulo - Brazil Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~lymber/bootleg.html "We are so human, we are so small" - Peter Garret - Midnight Oil "I'm your dream, make you real / I'm your eyes when you must steal I'm your pain when you can't feel / sad but true" - James Hetfield - Metallica =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:32:40 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Metallica Covering a CCR Song Message-ID: << Just a question, who is this Creedance Clearwater Revival?? I never heard of them before. []s very curious, Roger... >> I seriously hope you're kidding!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 12:31:04 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Berry To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Drums Message-ID: In on Wed 03 Sep, Pat Sullivan wrote: > > > The snare sounds on IaW and Awake were both perfect, so I'm hoping > > the snare on the new album is along those lines. > > That is quite possibly the first *positive* comment I have ever heard > about the snare sound on I&W. I know it's not to everyone's taste, but I still think it's great. All the sounds on that album are perfect, IMHO. Cheers, -- +--Andrew Berry (webmaster, Metal Links) ----------------------------------+ | 4700 links to metal pages - http://www.aberry.demon.co.uk/metallinks/ | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "Some wounds may never heal (the light confines the shadows), | | Some secrets can't be sealed, | +--But no-one cares about the tears you cry."--------- Conception ---------+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:46:26 -0400 From: Nick Giannotti To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Eckie's comments... Message-ID: >> Yeah, just too bad Stevie Ray proved white guys can do the BEST blues :) >> Heheh, well, aside from Ralph Macchio ;)~ > >HE was 1/8th black. He HAD to be! Yeah, but what about Stevie Ray ? :) >***WARNING! WARNING! HUGE LONG RANT!!! ECKIE'S LETTING IT LOOSE!!!*** You should seriously mail-bomb record company execs with this. I'm not talking about 100 times or so, I mean, set the thing on "Write an Opera and come back and I'll still be bombing" mode. This was brilliant, IMHO, and expresses my opinions far more eloquently than I could. Maybe if they get it crammed down their throats the way they cram their alternative shit down ours, they'll get the hint. Yeah, yeah, I know, wishful thinking on my part, but hey, I can dream, can't I ? I just don't know why you even bothered turning MTV on in the first place. :) -Nicholas P.S. Any Boston area jammers looking for a bass player? My band broke up yesterday night, and I'm lonely.... :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:36:58 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Metallica Covering a CCR Song Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Sep 1997 email_address_removed wrote: > << Just a question, who is this Creedance Clearwater Revival?? I > never heard of them before. > > > []s very curious, Roger... >> > > I seriously hope you're kidding!!!! No, no. I'm serious. I have never heard of them. Don't know what style of music they do and such. But it wouldn't surprise me if Metallica were covering techno bands right now, after the Spawn soundtrack... I have not heard it yet, but I bought the Die Krupps CD and I must say that "For Whom the Bell Tolls" never sounded so weird. []s hearing to some noisy-industrial now, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 13:42:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jeremy C. Hallum" To: "Yzerjam: the Mailing list for DT/Red Wing Fans Worldwide" Message-ID: Highlights of the Ytsejam Fantasy Football League, Week 1. SCHEDULE WEEK 1 WEEK 2 Liquid Shadows 50, Lines In The Sod 35 Liquid Shadows vs. Northeast Storm Predators 98, Ultraviolence 55 Predators vs. Hampshire Hounds Hounds 50, Birds of Prey 23 Blazars vs. People Eaters Northeast Storm 69, People Eaters 59 Ultraviolence vs. Birds of Prey Blazars 72, Musicsnobs 54 Musicsnobs vs. Lines In The Sod The Glen Burnie Liquid Shadows had a strong showing from Packers QB Brett Farve (12pts) and the Dolphins D(15 pts) to defeat the Alabama Lines in the Sod, led by a 17 point effort by Jacksonville WR Jimmy Smits. The Patsville Predators won their game with the dominating running game of Terry "Thunder" Allen, and Eddie "Lightning" George (37 pts combined), and a superb aerial attick by Drew Bledsoe (22 pts) to shatter the London Ultraviolence, who had strong showings by Ricky "Running" Watters (12 pts), and Vinny "I look good in Purple" Testaverde (12 pts). The Hampshire Hounds improved to 1-0, mainly due to the tough showing of Jeff "Blackie" George (17 pts), and the ever strong Cowboy D (11 pts). The Mill City Birds of Prey had an anemic attack, but had a good showing from Scott Mitchell (8 pts), and Larry Centers (6pts). Augie's Northeast Storm narrowly defeated the Purple People Eaters by 10 in the closest game of the week. The Storm had the largest offensive showing by a single RB in Lawrence "The Convict" Phillips (24 pts), and a 2TD effort by Herman "Where's Perriman" Moore (17 pts). The Eaters used a balanced 4 pronged attack by Terrell Davis (11 pts), Michael "Hee-Hee" Jackson (13 pts), Adam "I'm from South Dakota" Vinatieri (11 pts), and the Broncos D (12 pts). In the final game, the Boston University Blazars, withstood a Monday Night onslaught by the Cape St. Claire Musicsnobs to win their first. Led by the Minnesota Vikings offensive combinations of Brad "The Backup" Johnson (10 pts), Robert "The Bow-legged" Smith (14 pts), and Chris "The Rev'rend" Carter (18 pts), the Blazars held on after the Packers D only scored 12 pts on Monday night against the surprising Bears offense. Also contributing was the most productive WR Tim "All I can do is catch touchdowns" Brown (25 pts). Standings West East B. U. Blazars 1-0 Patville Predators 1-0 Hampshire Hounds 1-0 Augie's Northeast Storm 1-0 Cape St. Claire Musicsnobs 0-1 Glen Burnie Liquid Shadows 1-0 Alabama Lines in the Sod 0-1 Purple People Eaters 0-1 Mill City Birds of Prey 0-1 London Ultraviolence 0-1 Next week brings several good matchups. Two undefeated teams face off as the Predators face the Hounds in a cross conference matchup. Can the Purple People Eaters eat up the Viking attack of the Blazars? In a division matchup, the Liquid Shadows face off against the Northeast storm in another battle of undefeateds. After this week there may be only 2 winless teams, as the Ultraviolence face off against the Birds of Prey, and the Musicsnobs face the Lines in the Sod. See you next week. -jeremy +=====================================================================+ # grad student, Boston U. # "Lots of people go to college for seven # # Boston, MA 02134 # years." # # Astronomy # "Yeah, they're called doctors." # #<*> Jeremy Hallum <*># --Tommy Boy # #<*> email_address_removed <*># Vikings Fan since 1979 # #<*>email_address_removed <*># http://bu-ast.bu.edu/~jhallum/ # +=====================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:56:35 -0500 (CDT) From: The Phoenix To: email_address_removed Subject: Eckie's rant Message-ID: I agree with Eckie. It is overwhelming with certain types of music being crammed down our throats. We should all call the radio staions and tell them that we are the listeners and we want to hear DT. As pessimistic as it may sound, though, I don't know if it will ever work. I don't know about any of you, but I am just going to listen to what I want to and let others do the same. If they want to buy into what's popular just for that reason, it's their life, I guess. It's unfortunate, too, because I know that there are those out there who would like DT a lot if they didn't worry about the popularity of the music. But on the plus side, I am hearing of more and more DT fans. Back in 1993 when I first started listening to them, I didn't know any other fans. -~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_- | Robert Taylor The world may seem flown away | | email_address_removed Almost as if it cannot be saved | | The Phoenix Will we be able to rise | | From these ashes we've sown | -~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 14:40:51 +0200 From: David Di Tivoli To: email_address_removed Subject: The 3 songs on Hardradio Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970904144051.00882100@pronet.it> I don't like very much Burning my soul,I like You not me...but that is very repetitive,but of course i like a lot Peruvian skyes.....but that's not incredible.I hope these are the less good in the album.If that is not true....the album will be very commercial....... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 14:35:40 +0200 From: David Di Tivoli To: email_address_removed Subject: Psychological Effects of Album Sleeve Design Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970904143540.00883820@pronet.it> I agree,I think that the cover reflect the way to hear the album....I hate WDADU because I hate the cover.I love I&W also because when I take the album I see his cover...and for me Awake's cover is appropriate to that kind of music....aggressive.And finally when I hear ACOS I always have in my mind the cover.... +--------------------------------------------------+ | David Di Tivoli | | "DREAM" Undernet:#italia | /) E-mail:dream@pronet.it (\ / ) UIN #2549487 ( \ ( (+-------------------------------------------------+) ) /| (((\ \) /_) /^) / /)) (\\\\ \_/ / \ \_ / / // \ / \ / \ __/ \__ / | | | | ******* ******* /*******\ /*******\ ************************************************************** http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2549487 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 11:51:31 -0700 From: Michael Kizer To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: uncovered Message-ID: Joshua P. Walkowicz wrote: > > I was hoping to get some opinions on the "Uncovered" cd. A local > store has it, and it sounds like it would be good, however, they want > 60 bucks for it. Does anybody think that it is worth that much, or I just got this disc a week ago... it's pretty cool to have the whole show on CD, the sound quality is just OK and the "bonus" tracks have all been on other boots before (some it appears have been taken right form some Bahr boots)... I wouldn't pay $60 for it, but you can probably still find it for around $40 (or Mike Bahr can do a CD-R copy of it for $40 I believe..check out http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik for more info)... -- .-------------------------------------------------------------------------. | ~Michael Kizer -----<***>----- Tucson, Arizona | email_address_removed | | URL: http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer | email_address_removed | | /\/\_ Fates Warning - Island in the Stream _/\/\ | email_address_removed | | \/\/ Dream Theater - "Unofficial" Song Book \/\/ +----------------------| | * Sola sapientia est qui me in merda posuit * | ICQ UIN# 2070538 | *-------------------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 08:51:28 -0300 From: Marcelo Vanzin To: Freaks R Us Subject: Satch ranking Message-ID: Hey jammanoids! I don't know who started this, but I decided to give my $.02. My fave is Surfing with the Alien, followed close in its heels by Flying in a Blue Dream, another incredible album. The Extremist is quite good too (probably the album where Joe sounds most like a band, not just a guitarist with some guys playing behind), and the double Time Machine is a must have too (the Live Album kicks serious ass!). Not of this Earth has a kinda weird sound, but I like it a lot. =) Dreaming #11 has only 4 songs, but it's cool. And his last self-titled one, well, I don't like that one pretty much... Hope Joe gets back to old rocking guitar in the new album. :) -- []'s /**********************************************\ |* Marcelo Vanzin *| |* email_address_removed *| |* http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/ *| \**********************************************/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 12:20:42 -0700 From: Michael Kizer To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Eckie's Rant... Message-ID: email_address_removed wrote: ** A ton of stuff that is rather sad but true (not a direct Metallica reference )... yes, the state of the music industry (I hate calling it an industry, makes it sound like we are making cars or something) is in truly bad shape. The mighty dollar is king right now, and it will only get worse before it gets better. Eventually, I imagine there will be a big backlash against all this nonsense...it seems like everything occurs in waves. I think the underground music scene is going to keep getting bigger, with more and more talented bands, pressing and selling CDs over the internet, fans of these bands will discover all kinds of new music via word of mouth (mainly the net) and support will surely grow. As soon as it gets big enough (i.e., making enough dollars) some big cheese at Trendy Records, Inc. will come up with some hip way to market the underground scene, thus bringing it above ground, saturate the market with it (eventually killing it). Then it'll start all over again. Let's face it, music like prog, prog/metal, etc. will never be mainstream...certain bands in this genre will get popular and hit the big time, but I don't think you'll ever get to be on the Spice Girls mailing list and hear people complain that MTV never plays any SP videos anymore, just a ton of 20 minute videos by these long haired, instrument wielding show offs ... I was surprised (and then again not so surprised) that the mainstream media didn't jump on the story about the Marillion tour fund. I mean, if a bunch of crazed fans can donate $45,000 to get a band over to the states for tour, just think of all the "other stuff" they can buy... I thought for sure there would be a little coverage of this story and maybe that would spark some interest in the actual tour... The shows were phenomenal (and it seems fairly well sold, ticket wise), even non-fans would be impressed (I think anyway)... Anyway, Eckie, I agree with you completely and think I've ranted on a bit myself ... I guess we all have to start voting with our wallets... the next time a radio station says they won't play DT, just tell them fine, I won't listen to your station, patronize any of your advertisers and I am telling everyone I know to basically boycott your radio station until you come to your senses and start playing music that a large chunk of the population wants to hear. After they laugh at you (which they will do), just laugh back and say, sure my lone absense won't affect much, but after a few hundred or thousand people boycott you and your advertisers feel the pinch, guess who'll be laughing then... ~Mike -- .-------------------------------------------------------------------------. | ~Michael Kizer -----<***>----- Tucson, Arizona | email_address_removed | | URL: http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer | email_address_removed | | /\/\_ Fates Warning - Island in the Stream _/\/\ | email_address_removed | | \/\/ Dream Theater - "Unofficial" Song Book \/\/ +----------------------| | * Sola sapientia est qui me in merda posuit * | ICQ UIN# 2070538 | *-------------------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2934 **************************