YTSEJAM Digest 2922 Today's Topics: 1) bad traders list by Mathew and Melissa 2) I want a copy of Subconscious CD I pay by David Di Tivoli 3) crazy koba's blowaway cd sale by email_address_removed 4) R: Stratovarious & JP soundbytes by "Andrea Fabris" 5) Bands playing entire albums on tour by durnik 6) Two new DT songs! by email_address_removed.br (Pedro Prado) 7) Re: KM keyboards by Shai Yallin 8) Mail Viruses by Shai Yallin 9) Marillion Ticket for sale (Boston) by Mark Metzger 10) Albums played in concert by Mike Pontrelli 11) MP3, the making of ... by gra@provida.no 12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2921 by Cliff and Pam Wheaton 13) Skoonk (NDTC) by "W. Brian Henderson" 14) Virus Warning!!!!! by email_address_removed 15) 80's weekend by "Brian Hayden" 16) It's not the size that matters... by "W. Brian Henderson" 17) album cover by Pedro Filipe 18) Re: MP3, the making of ... by Rogerio Brito ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 12:02:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Mathew and Melissa To: email_address_removed Subject: bad traders list Message-ID: hey all, would the person in charge of the bad traders list email me? i've got a name to add. thanks! mathew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 14:35:31 +0200 From: David Di Tivoli To: email_address_removed Subject: I want a copy of Subconscious CD I pay Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970901143531.0087b6e0@pronet.it> I want a copy of that cd I pay...just tell me what you want...if you want we can trade..... +--------------------------------------------------+ | David Di Tivoli | | "DREAM" Undernet:#italia | /) E-mail:dream@pronet.it (\ / ) UIN #2549487 ( \ ( (+-------------------------------------------------+) ) /| (((\ \) /_) /^) / /)) (\\\\ \_/ / \ \_ / / // \ / \ / \ __/ \__ / | | | | ******* ******* /*******\ /*******\ ************************************************************** http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2549487 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 13:19:34 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: crazy koba's blowaway cd sale Message-ID: hey there. it's that time of the year, and i have yet more cd's to unload. the following items are up for grabs. all items include postage. $5 -torman maxt "talking about the inoverse...so far" -jimi hendrix "the ultimate bbc collection 1967" (boot) -fight "immortal sin" (autographed) -megadeth "sweating bullets" (maxi single) $8 -vai "sex and religion" -best of emerson, lake and palmer -korn -tom waits "small change" -symphonic music of yes -guns and roses "use your illusion 2" -the alan parsons project "eve" -public enemy "apocalypse 91..." -megadeth "youthanasia" -prince "an american in paris" (boot) $12 an evening of yes music plus (2 gold cd's) yes "yessongs" (2 cd's) special bonus: ask for the three yes cd's ("an evening of yes music...", "yessongs", and "symphonic music..."), and pay $25, which according to my calculations, would be 8 dollars less. interested parties shall email me and we shall discuss more. thanks. ytsegoon ****************************************************************************** * david y. kobayashi email_address_removed "better to save the mystery than surrender to the secret." -j. petrucci ****************************************************************************** * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 19:39:59 +0200 From: "Andrea Fabris" To: Subject: R: Stratovarious & JP soundbytes Message-ID: -----Messaggio originale----- Da: woot A: Multiple recipients of list Data: sabato 30 agosto 1997 18.25 Oggetto: Stratovarious & JP soundbytes >Which Strat album is better: Visions or Episode? IMHO Vision is far better than Episode and it's Stratovarius' best album: it contains a lot af good music (my favourites sonngs are "Kiss of Judas", "Legions of the Twilight", "Abyss of Your Eyes" and "Paradise"). Qapla' Andrea Fabris (e-mail: ea00628@flashnet.it) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Ne ho viste cose... che voi umani non potreste neanche immaginarvi" -Blade Runner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 10:40:52 -0700 (MST) From: durnik To: email_address_removed Subject: Bands playing entire albums on tour Message-ID: No, Queensryche was not the first. Pink Floyd did it in 1973 when touring for DSOTM. Rush did it in 1978 and 1984 touring for Hemispheres and p/g. Floyd did it again in 1979 touring for The Wall. And I'm sure other bands like the Stones and the Beatles did it too, long before this, but those weren't concept albums so who can really say. Of the 1970s concept albums, other bands like Alan Parsons Project, Kansas, and Genesis probably did a little full-album live performing, one would guess. - Mike Bahr - email_address_removed - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 14:31:16 -0300 From: email_address_removed.br (Pedro Prado) To: email_address_removed Subject: Two new DT songs! Message-ID: Hi there! Yesterday I heard two new DT songs on the radio: "Burning My Soul" and "Hollow Years". As I only heard it once I don't have any formed opinion about it, but my first impressions were good. "Burning my soul" is a little heavy, starts with some simple bass line. The drums are very good but a little more simple than another DT songs. The music is in 4/4 all the time (if there is any change, I STILL didn't realize) with some DT characteristic odd compass finishing (hope you can understand what I mean). The vocals are good. "Hollow Years" is a ballad that starts with a kind of Spanish guitar solo. The vocals are very good, with cool backing. That's it. Maybe I will post some more impressions after I hear it some more times (I recorded it). In general the songs are very good, and, although being a little more "commercial" (I don't know if this is applicable), specially "Hollow Years", I still think there is a lot of DT in it. Hope you, that have already listened, agree with me. See ya'. _________________ Pedro Prado - a.k.a. Beheader Email: email_address_removed.br - ICQ: 1271907 URL: http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/3551 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 19:30:08 +0300 From: Shai Yallin To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: KM keyboards Message-ID: Rick Barkhouse wrote: > > Anders wrote: > > I'm not sure about WDADU (and I would like to find out...) I know he used DW-8000 on WDADU.... The picture of the keyboard he's holding on the booklet is of a DW-8000.... -- Shai Yallin - Kurush on #YTSEJAM "Yauza Yauza Yauza...." - Frank Zappa "You say you want everyone happy. Well, we're not laughing..." - John Petrucci, "Scarred" Visit my home page at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3247 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 20:59:29 +0300 From: Shai Yallin To: email_address_removed Subject: Mail Viruses Message-ID: Well, correct me if i'm wrong, but i think that the MS-OutLook uses MS-word to read mail messages. (I don't use it 'cos i hate it...) Now, It's indeed possible to write a word macro virus that erases a hard drive while the naive user reads the message..... -- Shai Yallin - Kurush on #YTSEJAM "Yauza Yauza Yauza...." - Frank Zappa "You say you want everyone happy. Well, we're not laughing..." - John Petrucci, "Scarred" Visit my home page at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3247 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:25:15 -0400 From: Mark Metzger To: "'(ytsejam)'" Subject: Marillion Ticket for sale (Boston) Message-ID: Due to changing plans, I have an extra ticket for the Marillion concert in Somerville Mass (i.e., Boston). The ticket originally cost over $20, but I will be willing to sell it for $15. Please contact me if you are interested. Time's a passin' and unlike that dumb Tourniquet CD, there will be no fire sale here !! These guys are great live and there is no assurance that they will ever hit this side of the pond again !! Mark Metzger email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:37:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Pontrelli To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Albums played in concert Message-ID: Going back even earlier than Operation: Mindcrime (which several of my friends we lucky enough to see), Pink Floyd used to perform entire albums at their shows. In the 70s they would often perform the latest album in its entirety and in order, followed by the previous album in its entirety and in order, and have an encore of older stuff (for 3 hour long shows). They did this for "dark side of the moon", "wish you were here", "animals", and "the wall" (making for some awesome boots) Also.. the Who performed "Tommy" in order as well. Back to Pink Floyd, even on their 1994 tour they performd Dark Side of the Moon in order for their second set. Also, in the 80s, Marillion played albums such as "Misplaced Childhood" in order. In other words, this is not a new concept =) I tend to like when bands to that, since often the albums are designed to be heard in order, so why not perform them the way they were intended to be heard (albums which are not just a collection of 3 minute pop-singles that is :) ) -Ponte "And I know we're not children anymore Innocence lost in a sea of grey But I often wonder what could have been and I still hold on to yesterday" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 20:35:25 +0100 From: gra@provida.no To: email_address_removed Subject: MP3, the making of ... Message-ID: Does any of you in-the-closet-bootleggers have/know about a program that reads CD tracks digitally through the IDE ATAPI ? I wanna make perfect copies of some songs for a private boot, and this program would really come in handy for such a job. I also need a kick-ass MP3 encoder (maybe one that uses the MMX ?) ... -.profile ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 12:48:50 -0600 From: Cliff and Pam Wheaton To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2921 Message-ID: > Well, I have some CDs that are scratched and then my CD player > > skips some tracks (of course, I hate that). > > So, I'd like to know from you guys: have you ever used those > "CD > repair kits" with success?? I know that there are at least two > products > (but maybe, much, much more) called "CD Saver" and "CDTek" that claim > to > remove every single scratch of your CDs and let them play smothly in > your > CD player. > > Is this truth??? > I've used the one the Allsop puts out-not bad-but a pain to use. It's > white,gluey lookin stuff the dries to a powder. it works ok. I > haven't tried any others:) > > > > > Hi again, > I'm gonna be over in Germany and Holland in October and I was > wondering if there's any music or special european copies of CDs I > should get. I'm already gonna look for Symphony X since their German > import is about $30 I think I'll just wait until I'm over there and > get > it myself. I know I'm gonna be spending a couple of days in Munich, > does anybody have any suggestions for tourist stops? If there's > anything a music lover such as myself can't live without, let me know. Eloy. lots of Eloy!! Actually, If you could look for "Floating" and "Dawn" for me on cd, I'd appreciate it!!The damned things have gone out of print, and I can't order them here at all now.:( Another guy to check out is Klause Schulze-sytheszer new agey stuff! cool!!Pam > > > thanks > todd > > -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton ____/----^----\____ The greatest tool To: email_address_removed Subject: Skoonk (NDTC) Message-ID: >..ska is not that bad... i know lots of ppl here dont dig it but my >brother and i consider ourselves a coupla rudeboys :) :) In my original massage (yet another 'Jam 'inside joke'...), I think I may have conveyed a tone of anti-skaness. For this I apologize. Like I mentioned, I was actually *in* a ska band as a trumpeter up until a few weeks ago, when we all departed for assorted schools. 'Course, just because I was in a ska band doesn't mean I own any ska albums, but, then, just because I don't have a ska record collection doesn't mean I dislike the music... My fingers are hurting from repeated pressings of the "S", "K", and "A" keys, so I will discontinue the post. Brian Henderson email_address_removed "Couldn't we talk about something else instead?" -- N.P. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:46:41 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Virus Warning!!!!! Message-ID: WARNING! If you get an e-mail message from email_address_removed with the subject: SUBSCRIBE YTSEJAM >Your Name< DO NOT OPEN IT! CANCEL YOUR E-MAIL ACCOUNT! RUN AWAY! It's worse than a virus; it means you will now receive 2 to 4 Ytsejam digests per day! AACK! And you'll get even more when DT's new album is available to jammers! The funny thing about this message is that it tells you how to unsubscribe! So instead of wasting bandwidth (like me!), read it and quit bothering us!!! Or is that too easy?......... >>Quick comment on the "perfect" drummers thread, if you want a "perfect" >>drum song, look no futher then the new techno hit "Around the World." I could have made this piece of crap in less than a day. Only in America can an uncreative bastard who thought of three words get his work played on the top 40 radio stations, make a few grand, and then go back to his or her day job. >>We all know that when the new album comes out this place is going to >>erupt into opinion city. I suspect that there will be about 30 posts >>a day c-ya then. At least 30 - more like 75 Any jammers in the real-music barren Beaumont, TX? Or am I the only one? I'm not even going to waste my time with the radio stations here - I just heard Vanilla Ice on the radio - no shit. And that's the BEST station. DTC - can't wait for the new album Pauly Now playing - Suzanne Vega - Luka (good song) -"Friendship for two requires patience by one." -Anonymous quote, but a darn good one ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 97 13:50:31 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" To: email_address_removed Subject: 80's weekend Message-ID: > And x-105 in Minneapolis is doing an '80's weekend'. Which means I've > gotta wait another whole day before I even have a _chance_ of hearing > the new DT. Augh! > > --Jay "but it was kinda cool to hear '18 and life' on the radio" Omega This 80's weekend thing is pretty damn cool...never heard "18 and life" or "Youth Gone Wild" on the radio before, or Anthrax's "Got the Time" and "Among the Living." I already taped "Burning My Soul" off the radio last week, so it doesn't bother me. ;-) -Brian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 14:58:42 -0400 From: "W. Brian Henderson" To: email_address_removed Subject: It's not the size that matters... Message-ID: >> Er...am I stupid or wasn't Queensryche the first band to play an entire= > album=20 >>(during the 1990 "Building Empires" tour they played all of "Operation=20 >>Mindcrime"). So that beats Savatage, Fates Warning *and* Marillion. >> Just my two cents (Dutch cents, not dollarcents). :-) >Well, now that we're on that subject, didn't The Who play the whole Tommy >opera when they first released the album? What year was that... 1273 A.C.? >:-) (probably like 1970, I'm just guessing...) >Let's not forget Pink Floyd's The Wall either... but that was more >recently... like 1979 A.D. ;-) And, always the Tull-head, I must point out "Thick as a Brick" and "A Passion Play", both 40-some-odd-minutes were played in their entirety. Plus, "2112", and all manner of other songs (2112 by Tull - that'd be a trip...). Esentially, as soon as prog came out in the late, late '60s, along came with it the rock epics performed in full. And, if you step out of the rock genre, there's always classical music to contend with. Those Tibettan monks write some long-ass songs as well... Gog-Bar-Og's Stoneage Quartet featuring special guest Grunk-Big-Teeth on mastadon-skull -- I hear they played for fourteen weeks straight before they were killed by a rockslide. Brian Henderson email_address_removed "Doo gop rah bwannah" -- Grunk-Big-Teeth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 20:03:49 +0200 From: Pedro Filipe To: email_address_removed Subject: album cover Message-ID: Can anyone e-mail me privately the URL where I can see the new album cover? I don't know where I put it... >We all know that when the new album comes out this place is going to erupt >into opinion city. I suspect that there will be about 30 posts a day. c-ya >then. Just wondering...what happens if someone sends a mail-bomb to the jam? Does every subscriber receive 1000 jams or so? ___ | Pedro Filipe ___ * | * ___ & | * | * | Francisco Miguel *| \ | / |* (FleXable) * | \ /|\ / | * * | \ / | \ / | * * | \ | / | * * * | / \ | / \ | * * | / \|/ \ | * "Love is the Dance of Eternity" *| / | \ |* _|_* | *_|_ DREAM THEATER * | * _|_ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 16:25:13 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: MP3, the making of ... Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 1997 gra@provida.no wrote: > Does any of you in-the-closet-bootleggers have/know about a program > that reads CD tracks digitally through the IDE ATAPI ? > I wanna make perfect copies of some songs for a private boot, and this > program would really come in handy for such a job. Hint: go to altavista (or your web preferred web searcher) and search for CDDA. > I also need a kick-ass MP3 encoder (maybe one that uses the MMX ?) ... I don't know... Please, can someone (who are involved with the job of bootleggin) tell me the following: - Which softwares you use to copy audio CDs?? - Do they copy the songs digitally or must the songs pass thru the soundboard?? - If they copy the songs digitally, do they copy the extra information that a CD holds, such as start of a song and table of contents etc? I want to copy some live bootlegs and I really don't want to have pauses between the songs, you know. Maybe Mike Bahr can help here... Thank you for any help, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2922 **************************