YTSEJAM Digest 2833

Today's Topics:

  1) Vancouver Jammers/Dickinson show/YNM - RA
 by Mark Smeets <email_address_removed>
  2) Re: YNM
 by yzzy <email_address_removed>
  3) Ibanez Lo-Pro Tremolos
 by "Paul Matthews" <email_address_removed.au>
  4) Terminal Things
 by "S. Borzilleri" <email_address_removed>
  5) Where in Atlanta would prog bands play?
 by Phil Carter <email_address_removed>
  6) "You Not Me"
 by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <email_address_removed>
  7) Desmond Theater
 by Uncle Dave <email_address_removed>
  8) I've been bitching, now I'll have to pay for it ! (But still more
 by gra@provida.no
  9) What's the name of that song again...?
 by Steffen Barabasch <email_address_removed>
 10) The Thalhead and the pebble.
 by "Korg Eksthrey" <email_address_removed>
 11) Sellouts
 by Davidjon Sabetai <email_address_removed>
 12) Did my message look f@#$ed up to yall
 by "John Hough" <email_address_removed>
 13) In the high court of FATES WARNING.............
 by "Carlo D'Angelo" <email_address_removed>

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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 21:22:20 PST
From: Mark Smeets <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Vancouver Jammers/Dickinson show/YNM - RA
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


** Reply to note from email_address_removed 08/06/97  5:31pm -0700  
  
To all Vancouver Jammers,  
  
(The few that there are) If any of you are planning on going    
to see the Bruce Dickinson/Adrian Smith/Accident of Birth    
concert on the 28th at Studabakers, email me. So far, I've got    
a decent little group together and maybe we can all hook up or    
somethin like that. Nice cheap tickets too. And for that matter,   
anyone going to the Vancouver Indy the following day (like me)   
and/or the other days, lemme know, hang out at the track. 
 
Anyone have an RA file of YNM? 



Mark Smeets/Stranger0/HTML Guild Member  
---------------------------------------  
http://www.smartt.com/~jsmeets/stranger/ - personal page  
http://www.smartt.com/~jsmeets/stranger/Front.htm - Megadeth F.A.Q.  
  
A Bridge is not a high place  
The fifty-second floor  
Icarus would nkow  
A Mountain isn't too far to fall  
When you've Fallin' from the Moon - Marillion, Brave - Fallin' from the Moon 




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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 23:41:35 -0500
From: yzzy <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: YNM
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


>And to think, they use Unix operating systems on the space shuttles, but
>they'ev never used Win95...geez, the government really sucks.

*yzzy ponders the situation*

severly handicapped on OS knowledge and... wrong newzgroup(s), too.
<did the ump just shout, "Steeriiiiiike Three!"?!?>

YNM rocks!  caught myself singing it while at work the other day.  can't
seem to shake the tune from my thoughts and wouldn't want to.  i can hardly
wait to hear the CD.  just a simple request:  maybe that 25M wav file can
be converted to 44kHz (vice 22k) with a higher bitrate???

yzzy

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Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:49:07 +1000
From: "Paul Matthews" <email_address_removed.au>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Ibanez Lo-Pro Tremolos
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.au>


Hey there,

Sorry about the lack of musical content.

Could anybody please email me if they have had problems/experience 
with Ibanez Lo-Pro tremolos.

Your wisdom will be much appreciated.

Thanx,

Paul

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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 22:02:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Borzilleri" <email_address_removed>
To: Falling Into Infiniti J30 <email_address_removed>
Subject: Terminal Things
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


> From: Chris Ptacek <email_address_removed>
> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2825
>
> Sarwhat?  Is that terminal? 

Sarlac. He said Sarlac. It's a merciless living pit lined with teeth and
tentacles. If you fall into it you are slowly digested over a million
billion years. It's excruciatingly painful and escape is impossible. 

George Lucas thought of it after reading one of your posts. 

> As in "Bite me, ya fraggin' fanboy"?  (Only older DC comix fans will
> comprehend that) 

DC comics suck. Wolverine could kick Lobo's ass. 

> Sit down, son.  You're trying too hard.  You might get hurt. 

Yeah. Try some battery-powered devices, skip all that unnecessary shoulder
cramping! 


----
> From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <email_address_removed>
> Subject: Hmmmm
>
> No fuck you's
> No dies
>
> is this reall the ytsejam?

GO SKADZ!! No more George Farber! Does it get any better than this! 

Skadz has single-handedly taken out the meaningless lists of obscenities
posted by a satist maniac and replaced them with assorted posts full of
obscenities written by hostile ytsejammers! Way to spread the wealth,
Skadz! :) 


And you can be my cowgirl. 


Bafu Vai



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Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 01:18:39 -0400
From: Phil Carter <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Where in Atlanta would prog bands play?
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Greetings ye 'jamanoids...

Hm, seeing all the fuss about Fates playing here and Angra possibly coming
to there and so on has made me wonder: is there anyplace at all in Georgia
that would actually support a prog band?

Living in the South is absolute hell sometimes because, aside from Rush,
nobody around here is willing to give any prog music a second listen. I've
never seen DT in concert, nor Fates, nor Angra, and was just curious (if
there are any other Georgia-dwelling jammers out there -- you listening,
Pellaz?) where DT or Fates or whoever might play. Now that the Omni's
trashed, I'd have to guess the Fox Theatre...

Side note: It's fun having a large collection of CD's. Coming to work with
seven or eight different ones a day for weeks on end is really making my
coworkers wonder when I'm going to run out of music...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Bafu: That bit about the Thalhead on the loose was great. Keep 'em comin,
man. 

Let me add my voice to the small (but vocal) group that's keeping away from
all the new material till the album's released. I don't *want* to hear the
new songs in a format that's been compressed, twisted, forced into 3
channels, and played through a tinny pair of computer speakers. I'll wait
till the album's released, THEN I'll blast it through my stereo.

I find all the complaints about YNM's sound quality and mixing to be rather
amusing. I mean, what'd you expect? It's like expecting a bootleg to be
studio-quality...(woops, sorry, Mike, no offense meant)...err, I mean like
expecting a EP-speed videotape dub to be as high-quality as the original
release. Not gonna happen.

Trust the band; I think all of them have too much pride in their work to
let a piece of trash be released to their hordes of crazed fans. (They know
we'd flatten them like a FUCKING PANCAKE, BOYEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!). 

Cheers,
Phil

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Phil Carter -- email_address_removed        http://www.negia.net/~carter 
"Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life."
			-- Berthold Auerbach
"Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who
no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired,
gain new confidence and love."      -- Pablo Casals


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Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 00:41:20 -0500
From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: "You Not Me"
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


YNM is coming off my page within the next few hours. Everyone that wants
it already has it, I hope.
-- 
***********************************************************************
* Mark Peters -- email_address_removed -- Auburn University, Class of '99 *
* Ytsejammer, tape trader at http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/index.html *
* Progressive tape swap - http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/tapeswap.html *
*                                                                     *
* "America's not satisfied with forcing Russia to destroy its nuclear *
*    weapons and recant its ideology. Now we're really going to get   *
*  even: we're sending experts to show them how to run their economy. *
*  Am I missing something? A country with a 5 trillion dollar debt is *
*           giving advice on handling money?" - George Carlin         *
***********************************************************************

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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 22:43:52 -0700
From: Uncle Dave <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Desmond Theater
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


you know for all you whiner's about desmond child's input on ynm, i would
really like for you to imagine the absurdity:  im very sure that when jp
was writing it that if desmond's feelings on the song and it's meaning that
jp would have agreed to change anything.  could you imagine the same guy
that wrote the mindblowing songs that we all love said "Sure, Desmond....i
would love it for you to fuck up the song....no really your songwriting
skills are far better than mine.....how about laying down some guitar tracks?"

i mean come on people like some jammers have said in so many words:  USE
YOUR FUCKING MIND!!!

and yes i am in the crowd that doesnt care what dt puts out because i will
own it and love it because damnit this world is falling into (ummmmmmmmm
heehehee...) the realm of just following their feelings on almost
everything but not using their damn mind.  

personally i think ynm rocks (just like everything dt has put out and
anything they _will put out_ e.g. their first country, rap, folk, reggae.....)

the album's gonna rock folks:

	MP has been working out with Arnie
	JP has been bench-pressing MP.  recent test results have shown him to
               	   have grown an extra set of balls for some reason 
	JM is learning to sign
	DS still upset from not getting his debut star role in "Shine" but
 	   rests easy at night knowing he can play faster with his toes than 
	   that damn guy.  
       JL well what can be said...the guy sung his first operatic (sp?!?) note
          when the doctor smacked him on the ass.  all the male caribou
within 
          a 5 mile radius seemed to be missing something after that day.  
          today he simply commands worlds and hearts with his voice.  in
his           spare time he is a ringmaster
          


REMEMBER YOUR ROOTS JAMMERS, REMEMBER YOUR ROOTS
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  Rick McMahon * College of Business * Arizona State University * YtseJammer
		    Member Html Writer's Guild * A Nice Guy
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            ~~~  D  R  E  A  M         T  H  E  A  T  E  R  ~~~

       "The label rep says to me, 'nobody's gonna pay $100 for the new 
        (7-10 cd box set) album.  So I slam his face into the desk and say 
	 'you make this (frigging) album or i'll break your (frigging) head!
	  Yeah, I think that got their attention."
				--John Petrucci, the Jerky Boy

		"THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME TO LIVE"  -- #1 YtseJammer Song by DT

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Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 07:40:53 +0100
From: gra@provida.no
To: email_address_removed
Subject: I've been bitching, now I'll have to pay for it ! (But still more
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.no>



Me wrote:
>> I sense a bit of "If I met this dude IRL i'll kick his but" kindda thing
>> going on here !
>    Oh, come on!  First off, that was totally a joke, and second, I'D
FLATTEN HIM LIKE A
>FUCKING PANCAKE, <long pause> BOYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEE!
Sorry, I didn't direct it to your tiny thread, I meant the YNM is the
best/worst thread !
Again, lack of correct grammar caused an incorrect interpretation. Boy, no
wonder there are
wars going on ..............


>From: Pedro Filipe <email_address_removed.pt>
>To: email_address_removed
>Subject: DIE, YTSEJAMMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hmmm, and I thought the YTSEJAM was a perfect place to state your opinions
on DT material !!


-.profile



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Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 01:09:04 +0100
From: Steffen Barabasch <email_address_removed>
To: Ytsejam <email_address_removed>
Subject: What's the name of that song again...?
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.de>


Aw fuck...

Either I can't write or some of you can't read. I never said YNM sucks...
well, ok, I did, but I didn't write that because it's too commercial or
something.

What I felt was, and now read carefully, that the original demoversion was
simpler, and for that reason more accessible (better). I thought that the
final version became too complex for a radio single! ;-) And I thought the new
chorus doesn't fit at all.

I really tried hard, and now I think I finally managed to get used to the new
version. It's more catchy as I first thought, and as I said, DT did their best
to rearrange Child's version, however that sounded, back to a DT song.

Hey Mark, what's this shit about Lines... as the first single? Did I ever say
I wanted that? Please read my posts more carefully, even the stupid ones ;-)

To all those who dislike wah-guitar-sounds: You might have a problem with the
new album. JP always used the wah-pedal, but I think he did even more on the
new material. I like it, it let's the guitar "speak" in a way.

U2 seems to be another big influence on this album, even though they left out
the most U2-ish songs. There's a problem for me, because I dislike U2, and I
generally don't want to see DT just copying another band. You could hear other
influences, like Pink Floyd on LITS and Trial Of Tears, or even some UK!?

Anyway, though this album will be very different from their previous albums,
it's still DT. And I'm glad it is...

>NOW, LET'S STOP TALKING ABOUT THE FUCKING YNM SONG,
>PRODUCTION AND 1'S AND 0'S - OR ELSE........

The first time for months this list is about DT again and this guy immediately
starts complaining. Go figure.

Steffen

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Steffen Barabasch - THE MIRROR                          email_address_removed
Deutscher Dream Theater Fanclub              http://www.westend.com/TheMirror
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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 23:59:22 -0600
From: "Korg Eksthrey" <email_address_removed>
To: <email_address_removed>
Subject: The Thalhead and the pebble.
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


>>it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks.
>>I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate
>>it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks.
>
> "I see a pattern...there's structure there."

Yeah, it's all in 4/4.  And this guy calls himself a fan.  He could've at
least changed time sigs a bit.

>Could anybody please email me if they have had problems/experience
>with Ibanez Lo-Pro tremolos.

Simple, don't use one.  Next?

>Skadz has single-handedly taken out the meaningless lists of obscenities
>posted by a satist maniac and replaced them with assorted posts full of
>obscenities written by hostile ytsejammers! Way to spread the wealth,
>Skadz! :)

Hrm.  So Skadz is either...
a) George Farber
b) email_address_removed
c) The missing Thalhead
d) All of the above
e) Some of the above
f) None of the above
g) Taking a dump
h) About to boot my ass of the jam...

Aesop
email_address_removed




What're ya waitin' for, a fucking moral to the story?  Go to Hell!




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Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 06:35:38 +0000
From: Davidjon Sabetai <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Sellouts
Message-ID: <19970807063525.AAD20049@LOCALNAME>


Hey Jammers,

I want to know how many of you don't like your job or your boss or your
working conditions, but still hold that job because you need to pay the rent
and prevent yourself from starving. Are you a sellout with no integrity? 

Isaac 


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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 23:59:40 -0700
From: "John Hough" <email_address_removed>
To: <email_address_removed>
Subject: Did my message look f@#$ed up to yall
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


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email_address_removed
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Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 03:18:45 -0400
From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: In the high court of FATES WARNING.............
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Hello people,

I have just returned from one of the greatest shows I've seen in a LONG
time and wish to praise the glory that is FATES WARNING.

  To start with I wasn't sure what to think of APSoG when I first got
it...I am now convinced it is a masterpiece.  It is the FASTEST
55-minute song I've ever heard; and LIVE it all meshes wonderfully into
one continous journey through pleasant shades of gray's with varying
intensities.  Ohhh how my love for all that is FATES WARNING has grown
immensely since seeing them just hours ago at Tuxedo Junction in
Danbury, CT!

Tight?!?!? "Tight" isn't strong enough a word to describe what I saw;
truly amazing.  
The band was in GREAT spirits (glad to see it since I've been reading
about some horror shows here and there...) I even caught Jim Matheos
crack a smile here and there!  Joey Vera kicks ass (cool prescence and
great backup vocals!).  Alder was dead on and hit every note in sight
(including EVERYTHING on "Eleventh Hour") and Ed Roth was great too (I
would have loved to hear some shred stuff from him cuz he tears up the
keys on IMPELLITTERI)..and ohhhh yeah, by the way, MARK ZONDER has 4
invisible arms (in addition to the visible 2)!  I kept screaming "ZONDER
is God" but I think everyone already knew that :-)

In honor of my musical elation with FATES WARNING I'm posting my "IGoD"
.sig twice in a row.  

Why twice you ask?  Because once is not enough!

All Hail FATES WARNING!!!!!  Support them and see them as many times as
you can!

cheers,
   Carlo (aka Fates, aka YtseMatheos)





          /\                    "THE IVORY GATE OF DREAMS"
         /__\               
        /____\              
   /\  /__{}__\  /\        Enter ivory gates through midnight skies
  /**\/________\/**\       Daylight dreamers in private parades
 /__________________\      Perform before perpetual dawn
 |       []       []|      As dusk engulfs the gate of horn   
 |   []        []   | 
 |]        []       |      Ivory towers appear beyond the gate
 |     []        [] |      Invisible fortresses of escape
 | []        []     |      Traversed by ramparts made of hopes and fears
 |       []        [|      Impervious to reality
 |   []        []   |
 |]        []       | 
 |     []        [] |      A cold daze plagues the air
 | []        []     |      Driven by aging winds
 |_______[]_________|      The walls give way to the rush
   |//*//*//*//*//|        and let reality in
   |/*//*//*//*//*|
   |*//*//*//*//*/|
   |//*//*//*//*//|      ////////  //////  ///////////  //////  ///////
   |/*//*//*//*//*|     //        //  //       //      //      // 
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   |/*//*//*//*//*|  //        //  //       //      //////  ///////


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 // // // //  //  //  //  \\   //  / //  //  //  / //  //    //
///// /////  //  //  //    \\ //   ///  //  //   ///  //////// 









          /\                    "THE IVORY GATE OF DREAMS"
         /__\               
        /____\              
   /\  /__{}__\  /\        Enter ivory gates through midnight skies
  /**\/________\/**\       Daylight dreamers in private parades
 /__________________\      Perform before perpetual dawn
 |       []       []|      As dusk engulfs the gate of horn   
 |   []        []   | 
 |]        []       |      Ivory towers appear beyond the gate
 |     []        [] |      Invisible fortresses of escape
 | []        []     |      Traversed by ramparts made of hopes and fears
 |       []        [|      Impervious to reality
 |   []        []   |
 |]        []       | 
 |     []        [] |      A cold daze plagues the air
 | []        []     |      Driven by aging winds
 |_______[]_________|      The walls give way to the rush
   |//*//*//*//*//|        and let reality in
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