YTSEJAM Digest 2813 Today's Topics: 1) experiment by email_address_removed (Ernesto Schnack) 2) ATTN: KAI by King Of The Internet 3) ProgDay, Ytse-Survey II by The Digital Man 4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2811 by "Brian Hayden" 5) Testing by Jon 6) Awake... by Steve Zebrowski 7) 'Penguin Dreams and Stranger Things' by "Matt Lamoureux" 8) JP lessons by Pedro Filipe 9) Re: YTSE-SURVEY INT'L II - FINAL RESULTS by email_address_removed 10) CDs FS/FT by KevMan 11) Penguin Dust by email_address_removed 12) Gakactic Cowboys FS or FT by KevMan 13) Hi :) by "Ryan P. Skadberg" 14) Damn Yannis, and Irritable from Israel by email_address_removed 15) FINAL YTSE-SURVEY INT'L RESULTS by "Steven C. Young" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 22:21:08 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Ernesto Schnack) To: Subject: experiment Message-ID: I want to try a little musical experiment. I'm all you musicians have had this problem: you get really bad-ass riff that you can't stop playing, but you can't go anywhere with it. It's just THE RIFF. Well, I have that problem right now, and I wanted to see if this wonderful thing called the internet could help me. Here's my plan: anybody interested just send me an email to email_address_removed , and I'll send you .wav of that riff, and then if you can think of a riff to add to it, email it to me. Any takers? I think this could bring some pretty interesting results:) later, Ernie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:28:46 -0700 (PDT) From: King Of The Internet To: email_address_removed Subject: ATTN: KAI Message-ID: Hey Kai! When my Hard Drive crashed I lost all my mail, including your email addy. Please write when you get a chance. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 00:52:11 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse Subject: ProgDay, Ytse-Survey II Message-ID: > From: "Frank Benenati" > Subject: My Elusive Mind > > Boo Rah! > > -The MojoMan cometh! I, for one, won't be getting any sleep tonight. :) ---- > From: email_address_removed.il > Subject: few things... > > ONE: why the hell everyone of you jamers,have to write DT lyrics in > the end of it?!?!? why?? i thought that you allready figured out > that DT can't write lyrics,only music! Actually, I think it's fair to say that most of us appreciate the large majority of Dream Theater's lyrics, and that the music wouldn't be nearly as moving with different lyrics. > (except our lost member,kevin > moore,may his soul rest to peace...) He's not dead. He just left the band. > you know,there r other song writers who knows what the hell their > doing,like the great Neil Peart! Yes, there are, and I agree with you (see the .sig). However, this is the Dream Theater mailing list. You know, the NMS would just *love* you. > TWO:there r few people who live in such places(let's say,like israel) > who can't get even one fucking cd of our dear DT,and i'm not even > trying to talk about bootlegs... so whom ever who got bootlegs and an > mp3 program can PLEASE put them in some kind of a site and PLEASE do > some of us a favore!!!! thanx in advance!!!! Um, chill? There are plenty of jammers who would be kind enough to engage in a trade with someone that asked politely. You catch more boots with honey. (And I didn't even flame the stupid sonofa...) ---- > From: Jon Byrne > Subject: Re: finneus gauge not to perform at ProgDay '97 > > Aparently, Peter Renfro, ProgDay organizer, had several CD-Rs pressed from > bands scheduled to appear for promotional purposes. Big problem, it seems > to me, is that the bands had no idea this was going on. I feel that had he > simply consulted fg about the situation none of this would have happened. Yeah, that's the gist of it. But it goes a little deeper than that. To hear FG tell it, Renfro not only violated their rights, but punished them for trying to stand up for themselves. Basically, when FG called Renfro on the violation, he un-invited them. Pretty nasty business, if you ask me. I think if I go to ProgDay 98, it will only be if he apologizes to FG on the web, lets them headline, and basically repents for "being a dick"(tm). ---- > From: "Steven C. Young" > Subject: YTSE-SURVEY INT'L II - FINAL RESULTS > > 1) RUSH (95) Woohoo! > (4 votes) Journey Hi Mojo :) > (2 votes) Lillian Axe Hi Richie :) > Spice Girls Hi Bafu :) > Ron Thal Hi Madsman :) > (1 vote) Altura Hi Syrinx :) > Alice Cooper Hi Derek :) > Lynyrd Skynyrd Hi E-Man :) > Warrant Hi again Richie :) > ZZ Top. Today's factoid: Canadian radio calls these guys "Zee Zee Top" just like Americans. Weird, eh? In other news, I am happy to report that the paperwork is all done and signed, and I am now the proud owner of a brand-spankin'-new Master of Science degree from the University of Vermont. Later this month, I will be a first-semester Ph.D. student at the College of William and Mary. No more New England winters. :) Oh, yeah, and the FAQ will have a new home by September 1st. I'll let you all know when that happens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster email_address_removed "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn email_address_removed /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 97 00:08:10 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" To: email_address_removed, email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2811 Message-ID: > Maybe other people who has these 2-CD set can throw in other comments?? Is > it worth getting?? I don't have it, but a friend does (I talked him into buying it when he said he couldn't afford it ;-) ). It's a great CD (two CDs, actually). There's only one Def Leppard song, so I guess it's the US version. BTW, that song is nothing like the jpower ballads they were known for in the 80's, it's old school speed metal. Pretty cool. There's some really cool tracks from Samson, Maiden, Witchfynder General, Diamondhead....great CD!! -Brian ***************************** Quote of the Day ********************************* "It is one of the blessings of old friends that you can afford to be stupid with them" - Ralph Waldo Emerson ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1981 01:53:21 -0800 From: Jon To: email_address_removed Subject: Testing Message-ID: Hey just testing this thing out. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:09:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Zebrowski To: email_address_removed Subject: Awake... Message-ID: > > DDTT (a serious one, in these dog years ;) ) : Both WDADU's and I&W's > >title > >originated from KevMo songs, but Awake didn't (TSM is JP's, right ) ... > >I guess > >that's why KevMo left ... Well, I dunno. Awake is full of less blatant examples of the concept of "awakeness." For example: "6:00 and the siren kicks in from a dream..." signifying someone waking up. That's Kev's. Also, aren't the samples in SDV supposed to be representative of someone awake late at night, flipping through channels on the TV? Just something to remember. :) > >Def Leppard have two (very early) songs on it. Favorite > >bandname on it: Tygers of Pan Tang. :) > > Da Leps had two songs? I thought it was only one song... can't remember, > really... my brother has a copy, but suddenly black spots appeared on the > second disc for no apparent reason and made the cd jump when played. maybe they're...leppard spots. :D I crack myself up. Steve Z ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 04:29:39 -0400 From: "Matt Lamoureux" To: "Ytsejam" Subject: 'Penguin Dreams and Stranger Things' Message-ID: Various thoughts to share, culled from recent 'Jams: Rogerio Brito wrote: >Why do we seem to love to hear our preferred songs on the radio >instead hearing it from our CD player? The CD player has better sound >quality... Or do we feel amazed to know that lots of people are hearing to >*that particular song* at the same time we are? :-) IMHO, it's more of a 'thrill of the chase' kind of mentality. We know we want to hear the song, but hearing it at random played on the radio is somehow more fun that knowing it is available at the push of a button. There's no 'exploration' (changing stations) and no 'discovery' (hearing it being played without doing it yourself). I presume it is a common enough mindset - after all, they have a 'Random' button on CD players, right? email_address_removed.il blessed us with his opinion: >i thought that you allready figured out >that DT can't write lyrics,only music!( Strong words for this crew, but opinions are like a$$holes - everyone has one! My view: he's so far off base he's no longer in the same dimension. ACOS: Portnoy, Metropolis: Petrucci, etc. Moore was/is good, but he's not the only one who can write! >YTSE-SURVEY INT'L II - FINAL RESULTS Ouch! My score compared to the 'Jam: 3 in the top 10, the rest are below #25 (3 made it to the 'Singles' column). Hmmm - very interesting! That's all for now! - Matt Matt Lamoureux E-mail: email_address_removed Site: http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/matt_l IRC: Swordsman "Angel in our pocket, devil by our side, It's time to be Immortal, 'cause heroes never die!" - adaped from Megadeth's "Blood of Heroes" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 10:35:48 +0200 From: Pedro Filipe To: email_address_removed Subject: JP lessons Message-ID: 1-Does anyone have the complete Chopin etude that appeared in a few Guitar World magazines (in the JP section)? I searched in the GW archives but I found nothing. It must be an old issue. :( 2- How many instructional videos has JP released? 3- Is there any video by Portnoy available? Can I download it somewhere in the .avi/.mov format? Are there transcriptions of the exercises? Help. |-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-| | We are: FleXable (Francisco Miguel) & Apicultor (Pedro Filipe) | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | "Practice, practice, practice" - Michael Angelo | | "Hello me, it's me again..." - Dave Mustaine | | "We may be human, but we're still animals" - Steve Vai | | "Happy Happy Happy Joy Joy Joy" - Ren & Stimpy | |-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 02:42:27 -0700 (MST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSE-SURVEY INT'L II - FINAL RESULTS Message-ID: Oy...that looked like it listed every band in the industry.... at least, in the one-vote category! ;) ~Eckie sighs...Metallica beat out Megadeth eh? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 05:10:20 -0500 From: KevMan To: YtseJam Mailing list Subject: CDs FS/FT Message-ID: That was quick. Looks like I've already sold all the cds below. Thanks for the response and to those buying them, enjoy! Apocalytica-Four Cellos play Metallica Echolyn-As The World Porcupine Tree-The Sky Moves Sideways World Trade-S/T Thanks again, Kevin. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 08:04:22 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Penguin Dust Message-ID: Just got my copy of the new Atomic Opera direct from Frank Hart. Thanks for the info, Dan! It's a great album! Half the band is gone however. Both Jonathan Marshall and Jonas Velasco are not on it. Jonas co-wrote one tune with Frank. Kemper Crabb is in the band now, playing mandolin. It's great to have a follow up to "For Madmen Only". Gonzo ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 08:38:12 -0500 From: KevMan To: YtseJam Mailing list Subject: Gakactic Cowboys FS or FT Message-ID: More cds for sale or trade! Galactic Cowboys-S/T Galactic Cowboys-Space in Your Face Galactic Cowboys-Machine Fish Sed offers to: email_address_removed Thanks, Kevin. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:17:11 -0400 From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" To: email_address_removed Subject: Hi :) Message-ID: just testing skadz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 09:42:18 -0700 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Damn Yannis, and Irritable from Israel Message-ID: Hi everyone, > From: "Frank Benenati" > Subject: My Elusive Mind > > From: David Di Tivoli > > Please list me 15 group like DREAMTHEATER....with the favorited > > ranking..... > Ok...here goes! > * Yanni Survey stuff: > (3 votes) [snip] > Yanni; Well, we know Mojo voted for them, so, who were the other two? ;-) ____ > From: email_address_removed.il > Subject: few things... > ONE: why the hell everyone of you jamers,have to write DT lyrics in > the end of it?!?!? why?? Because, I get off writing DT lyrics at the end of 'it' there you happy! > i thought that you allready figured out > that DT can't write lyrics,only music! This guy is the biggest moron I've ever seen on here(besides myself & remember THAT guy WHO was CAPS locking EVERY other WORD in SEMPTEMBER :). > (except our lost member,kevin > moore,may his soul rest to peace...) Hey, I didn't know KevMo unsubbed from the jam! > you know,there r other song writers who knows what the hell their > doing,like the great Neil Peart! Well...at least he didn't name himself... > TWO:there r few people who live in such places(let's say,like israel) > who can't get even one fucking cd of our dear DT,and i'm not even > trying to talk about bootlegs... so whom ever who got bootlegs and an > mp3 program can PLEASE put them in some kind of a site and PLEASE do > some of us a favore!!!! thanx in advance!!!! Wait, is he even talking about bootlegs or not? Jeez, the time you have to wait for a whole boot to play through MP3, I could walk to..."let's say, like Israel" and beat your ass, and come back and quote every DT lyric that KevMo didn't help write. Actually, someone send him a huge .wav file of some 2 CD boot through email! That ought to shut him up. John McCabe email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 08:42:24 -0700 From: "Steven C. Young" To: email_address_removed Subject: FINAL YTSE-SURVEY INT'L RESULTS Message-ID: Well, we have come to the close of another Ytse-Survey Int'l. It was a lot of fun, and once again, a big thanks to all who participated. We ended up with 164 participants, destroying our goal by 14. 23 contributions came in during the big 'LAST 2 DAYS' push. Good job, y'all. Here are the final Ytse-Survey International II results: (sorry for the ungodly length of this post -- let the flaming begin) Number of participants: 164 Number of different bands/artists mentioned: 372 YTSE-SURVEY INTERNATIONAL II CHAMPION: RUSH Rank) Band/Artist (votes) ------------------------- 1) RUSH (95) 2) Queensryche (87) 3) Fates Warning (64) 4) Savatage (57) 5) Metallica (42) 6) Angra (35) Megadeth 8) Steve Vai (34) 9) Iron Maiden (33) 10) Yes (30) HONORABLE MENTIONS (16 or more votes): Tori Amos, Helloween, King's X, Marillion, Pantera, Pink Floyd, Joe Satriani, Shadow Gallery, and Superior. Not only did Rush win the competition, they destroyed it. They take the survey with a whopping 95 votes, 8 votes over defending champion Queensryche, who themselves broke their own original record. The biggest two improvements over the last two days of eligibility were Angra, who jumped clear up into a tie for 6th place with Megadeth, and King's X, whose 7 votes over the last two days (where were YOU guys?) earned them a spot on the 'Honorable Mention' list with 20 votes. Congratulations to Rush and all of the other bands who made the list. The Top 10 is listed above; here now is the rest of the rankings from #11 and so on: Rank) Band/Artist (votes) ------------------------- 11) Joe Satriani (29) 12) Shadow Gallery (27) 13) Superior (26) (no entry from Bernd Basmer?) 14) Pink Floyd (25) 15) King's X (20) Marillion 17) Tori Amos (18) 18) Helloween (17) Pantera 20) Stratovarius (15) 21) Faith No More (14) Galactic Cowboys Genesis Lemur Voice Yngwie Malmsteen 26) Symphony X (13) Tool 28) Spock's Beard (12) Van Halen 30) Alice In Chains (11) Enchant 32) Blind Guardian (10) Queen 34) Echolyn (9) Extreme King Crimson Led Zeppelin 38) Jason Becker (8) Jethro Tull Kansas Kiss Ozzy Osbourne 43) Anthrax (7) Conception Deep Purple The Gathering Eric Johnson King Diamond Paradise Lost Frank Zappa 51) Black Sabbath (6) Crimson Glory Manowar Steve Morse Nevermore Slayer Soundgarden U2 59) Bruce Dickinson (5) Dio Dokken Eldritch Gamma Ray Guns N' Roses In Flames Living Colour Sarah McLachlan Phish Primus Styx Tesla Threshold Type O Negative Stevie Ray Vaughn Those with 4 votes or less: --------------------------- (4 votes) The Beatles, Finneus Gauge, Fish, Peter Gabriel, Helstar, I Mother Earth, Journey, Judas Priest, Live, Mercyful Fate, Nine Inch Nails, Psychotic Waltz, Ratt, Scorpions, Sepultura, Therion, TNT; (3 votes) Amorphis, Ayreon, Cacophony, Corrosion of Conformity, The Cure, Def Leppard, Fear Factory, Marty Friedman, Tony MacApline, Meat Loaf, Motley Crue, My Dying Bride, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Saviour Machine, Skid Row, Testament, Theatre of Tragedy, The 3rd and the Mortal, 311, W.A.S.P., Yanni; (2 votes) AC/DC, Aerosmith, Anathema, Anglagard, Annihilator, Aphex Twin, The Artist, Asia, Barenaked Ladies, Beethoven, Blue Oyster Cult, Blues Traveler, Bon Jovi, Boston, Candlebox, Cheap Trick, Cradle of Filth, Dave Matthews Band, Miles Davis, Dire Straits, Dixie Dregs, The Doors, Duran Duran, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Gary Hoey, Iced Earth, Ivanhoe, Elton John, Killing Joke, Lillian Axe, Magellan, Overkill, Pearl Jam, Prong, Rage Against The Machine, Rainbow, R.E.M., Renaissance, Saigon Kick, Skyclad, Smashing Pumpkins, Solitude Aeturnus, Spice Girls, Steely Dan, Sting, Strapping Young Lad, Sugar, Suicidal Tendencies, Tchaikovsky, Ron Thal, Tiamat, Toadies, Tourniquet, U.K., Ulver, Voivod, Roger Waters, Weather Report, "Weird Al" Yankovic; (Here they are, folks, your favorite and mine...the 'singles'...no laughing, please -- 1 vote) Accept, William Ackerman, Altura, Namie Amuro, Anekdoten, Aquarium Rescue Unit, Arcturus, Arena, David Arkenstone, Artention, Ashen Dawn, Ataraxia, Barren Cross, Syd Barrett, Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, Nuno Bettencourt, Bizet, David Bowie, Terry Bozzio, Bill Bruford, Buckethead, Kate Bush, Candlemass, Carcass, The Carpenters, Cea Serin, Chicago, Chroma Key, Cinderella, Eric Clapton, Paula Cole, Harry Connick Jr., Alice Cooper, Cowboy Junkies, Crack The Sky, Damn Yankees, Edwin Dare, Dark Reality, Dark Tranquility, Dar Williams, Death, The Deftones, Depeche Mode, Dishwalla, Dissection, Dr. Butcher, Dr. Sin, Drench, Todd Duane, Edge Of Sanity, Einsturtzende Nuebaten, Electric Light Orchestra, Elegy, Empyria, Enya, Eternity-X, Europe, Everon, Don Felder, Flotsam and Jetsam, Freddy Jones Band, Garden Of Delight, Giant, Kevin Gilbert, Gimme's Originals, Phillip Glass, Glass Hammer, Golden Earring, Gotthard, Great White, GTR, Guster, Steve Hackett, Handel, Jeff Healey, Jonas Hellborg, Helmet, Allen Holdsworth, Ice-T, Indigo Girls, Infectious Grooves, I.Q., Chris Issak, It Bites, Michael Jackson, Jackyl, Jewel, Jimmie's Chicken Shack, Billy Joel, Joy Division, Mike Keneally, Korn, Kyuss, Morgana Lefay, Level 42, Ottmar Liebert, Little Feat, Lost Souls, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Machine Head, Ashley MacIssac, Madonna, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Michael Manring, Masquerade, Loreena McKennitt, Mercury Rising, Metal Church, Pat Metheny, Mindwalk, Misfits, Scott Mishoe, Mr. Big, Mr. Bungle, Mr. So and So, Monolith, The Moody Blues, Moonspell, Vinnie Moore, Morbid Angel, Mozart, Mystere De Notre Dame, Napalm Death, New Order, Night Ranger, No Doubt, Oasis, Obituary, Oingo Boingo, Orphaned Land, Parlacanne, Petra, Picque Poque Poetry, Porcupine Tree, Praxis, Prodigy, Rachmaninov, Radakka, Rage, Raison D'Etre, Vernon Reid, Rhymes Of Destruction, Riot, Rollins Band, Rough Silk, Roxette, Rusted Root, Saber Tiger, Sanctuary, Seal, Secrecy, Sentenced, Seven Mary Three, The Sex Pistols, Shadowfax, Paul Simon, Skunk Anansie, Slaughter, Michael W. Smith, Son Volt, Stephen Sondheim, Cat Stevens, Stir, Stravinsky, Supertramp, Survivor, Matthew Sweet, Tad Morose, Tangerine Dream, 10-97, They Might Be Giants, Thought Industry, Johnny Thunders, Time Machine, Timescape, Andy Timmons, The Toasters, Toy Matinee, Tribal Tech, T-Ride, Tuff, Shania Twain, Twisted Sister, Tyketto, Ugly Kid Joe, Vanden Plas, Varga, Vauxdvihl, Venom, Vicious Rumours, Virgin Steele, The Wallflowers, Warlock, Warrant, Warrior Soul, Paul Westerberg, White Lion, Whitesnake, White Zombie, The Who, Winger, Wizards, Zebra, ZZ Top. There you have them. All 372 of them. A strange mix of tastes and interests, wouldn't you say? Again, thanks to all 164 particpants, It will be interesting to see how the list changes between now and next summer when Ytse-Survey Int'l III is held. Can't wait. Steve Y email_address_removed Any questions or requests regarding the survey? Please E-mail me! ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2813 **************************