YTSEJAM Digest 2806 Today's Topics: 1) Various stuph about groups by Jonathan Case 2) by email_address_removed 3) Fates Warning in Phoenix. by "Vincent G. LuPone" 4) One last Arizona jammerz note by "Vincent G. LuPone" 5) !!! Current Ytse-Survey Int'l II Standings - TWO days left !!! by "Steven C. Young" 6) Naomi's Solar Pumpkin (NDTC) by "Steven C. Young" 7) New album purchases by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." 8) Wheelin' and Dealin' by Brian Henderson 9) Posers and stuff. by "Korg Eksthrey" 10) Dream Theater MP3 File - Yes Medley by Scott Fuller 11) Prog/Death by "Ollila Marko" 12) Trail of Tears by "Matt Lamoureux" 13) cherokees and the trail of tears by Raivo Hool 14) 8-p by Pedro Filipe 15) spiritual DT by "Ville Rassi" 16) Another day in Norway... by "Iumentum" 17) NWOBHM SOD.... by Hein Vandenabeele 18) gone fishi--Silverchair, and crappy DT songs by email_address_removed 19) apocalyptica by Carlos Alfaro 20) Fantasy football and DT questions... by "Blevins, Mike" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:47:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Case To: email_address_removed Subject: Various stuph about groups Message-ID: Just some comments about some CDs I have. Agree or disagree, but these are my opinions. ENCHANT: A Blueprint of the World is GREAT! Wounded is good, but doesn't live up to their first CD. SAVATAGE: How many of you agree that Dead Winter Dead is a true masterpiece, both lyrically and musically? A Handful of Rain is awesome as well. Therefore does anyone have other Savatage recommendations for me if I REALLY like the above two CDs? I'm terribly impressed with these 2 CDs by Savatage... Galactic Cowboys: I haven't heard their latest one yet, but have read some mixed reviews. Some say it sounds like Nirvana?! YUK!!!! Anyway, I would totally believe it, because I just heard Machine Fish for the first time, and I think it absolutely sucks compared to their self-titled and Space in your face CDs. Stratovarious: I recently acquired my first Stratovarious CD "Visions", their new one. It's fairly ordinary as compared to say, Superior or Shadow Gallery, but still impressive. I like their aggression and Yngwie-esque sound! However, I think they still maintain their own identity from Yngwie. Any other recommendations as to which Stratovarious CD is best to get? I've ordered one more, but cannot remember the name now. Well, that's it for now, Jon Case ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:01:01 -0700 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed, metallica-request@thinkage.on.ca, email_address_removed, Message-ID: You may be a poser if you go to a guitar shop, pick up a new guitar and then play the opeing riff of [insert Nirvana song here]. -ryan email_address_removed "it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye. Then it's just as fun, but ya can't see!" -James Hetfield ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:15:37 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" To: email_address_removed Subject: Fates Warning in Phoenix. Message-ID: Eckie said it best. It was a great show. The entire band seemed very into the music, especially the bass player. Everything was tight, focused, and audible :) I especially liked the different electronic drum sounds that Zonder was using. They made the music sound very ethereal, especially when intertwined with the keyboard parts. Anywayz, It was great to meet all of you local jammerz here, and I can't wait to see you all again this fall for DREAM THEATER. This goes out to Jake, Chris, Fernando, Mike, Nathan, Ed, Scott, Rick, Huichi, and anyone else that I may have missed...thanks for making my first "prog" night a great one :) Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/6933 | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:30:11 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" To: email_address_removed Subject: One last Arizona jammerz note Message-ID: About all of us jammerz at Guitar Center last night, it was great to have the first actual Ytse JAM :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:02:29 -0700 From: "Steven C. Young" To: email_address_removed Subject: !!! Current Ytse-Survey Int'l II Standings - TWO days left !!! Message-ID: Salutations from the management and staff of Ytse-Survey II (me): We're REALLY almost finished! We only lack 9 entries to reach the goal of 150, but there are only 5 DAYS LEFT! PLEASE, for the final time, for those of you who have been waiting until the last minute, and we're there, e-mail me at email_address_removed with your 10 favorite 'non-Dream Theater' bands/artists -- Entries will be accepted until 11:59 p.m., July 31st; at that point, the entries will be compiled and a Ytse-Survey II champion crowned. Current statistics are as follows (as of 7/29/97, 10:00 p.m. AZ time): Number of entries: 141 Number of different bands/artists mentioned: 336 Current Survey Top 10 (with number of entries): 1) Rush (77) 2) Queensryche (68) 3) Fates Warning (53) 4) Savatage (51) 5) Metallica (36) 6) Megadeth (33) 7) Angra (29) Iron Maiden 9) Steve Vai (28) 10) Yes (27) It looks like QR will be stripped of the title, folks. Rush has now built a 9-point lead, and I seriously doubt that the lead is in jeopardy, considering that the survey is over in two days. Could it be that 'Test For Echo' has been more favorable to 'Jammers than 'HitNF'? FW and Savatage flip-flopped places again. FW now has a slight lead for 3rd...must be the outstanding (I hear) tour. Once again, the same 10 bands/artists occupy the Top 10 slots, though, once again, the order has changed. Yes is teetering perilously on the edge of the Top 10. These last two days should be interesting. Other bands/artists making the 'honorable mention' list (14 entries or more -- in no particular order): Tori Amos, Helloween, Lemur Voice, Marillion, Pantera, Pink Floyd, Joe Satriani, Shadow Gallery, Stratovarius, and Superior. We have just 2 days to go, y'all -- we need just NINE more entries. I know that there are at least nine of you out there who haven't submitted. Let's have a huge push here at the end and go over the top. Steve Y email_address_removed "KILL MY BOSS?!? Do I dare live out the American dream?" -- Homer Simpson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:19:14 -0700 From: "Steven C. Young" To: email_address_removed Subject: Naomi's Solar Pumpkin (NDTC) Message-ID: No Ytse-Survey Int'l II content, either (that's elsewhere in the 'Jam). I received my copy of Ty Tabor's (the incredibly gifted guitarist/vocalist GENIUS from King's X) solo CD, 'Naomi's Solar Pumpkin', yesterday. All of you 'Jammers who profess to be true King's X fans (and judging by the survey, there are at least 13 of you) really need to order this disc, if you haven't already. It is thoroughly enjoyable, and a great holdover until we get some new King's X, in the very NEAR future, hopefully. It has a wide range of music on it, all of which Ty performed and recorded himself (guitars, bass, drums, and the coolest harmonies). From the powerful "Had To Move" to the mesmerizing "Hollow Eyes (From A Disturbing Novel)" (my two personal favorites) to the folksy "That's All", this is just a great disc; quite possibly the most 'enjoyable' new disc for me this year (right up there with the new GC, anyway). The disc is only $14 (postage & handling INCLUDED), and arrived at my door in less than a week (my check was actually made out to 'Ty Tabor' -- that is too cool). Check out the details on the KX website (http://www.compassnet.com/grump/index.htm). I guess I'm doing a lot of advertising for Ty, but I kind of felt like I had to. The public, particularly KX fans, must know about Mr. Tabor's efforts (and Mr. Pinnick and Mr. Gaskill's). Okay, that's about it. Steve Y email_address_removed "I can't believe I ate the whole thing." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 01:00:05 -0500 From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." To: email_address_removed Subject: New album purchases Message-ID: Hello all! I picked up 2 new discs today. One is the new Pantera live album. It's got 2 new studio tracks that sound more like Far Beyond Driven than Trendkill, which is good, IMO, and the 13 live tracks are excellent. The other is a double live Deep Purple from the David Coverdale era. Whoa! It's got Burn (my all-time favorite DP song), and a 20-minute version of Space Truckin' (it still ain't prog, though ;) Overall, there's 11 tracks covering over 2 hours of live Purple. A must-have for fans of the MKIII lineup. Prog tape swap approaching fast. Sign up today at the URL below. Take care, Mark -- *********************************************************************** * Mark Peters -- email_address_removed -- Auburn University, Class of '99 * * Ytsejammer, tape trader at http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/index.html * * Progressive tape swap - http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/tapeswap.html * * * * "Isn't it interesting that only sex and excretion can be found * * legally obscene in the USA? Not violence, not neglect, not abuse of * * humans. Only shitting and fucking, two of nature's most necessary * * functions and irresistible forces. We're always trying to control * * and thwart nature, even in our language. Fuck that shit!" * * - George Carlin * *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:20:55 -0400 From: Brian Henderson To: email_address_removed Subject: Wheelin' and Dealin' Message-ID: >So that means they do have the "Lie" single on-hand I wish *I* had the "Lie" single on-hand... New deal: "Lie" single for a 2nd row center Queenryche ticket (8/5, Philly, PA) plus an added $10 -- that's $51.50, folks -- what a deal! A steal, even! And I might even throw in a complementary barbecue brush and deluxe chamois car-washing set... As always, the above ticket is still for sale. Mail me, we'll talk. $20? Okay, fine, sure... Brian Henderson, Ronco Cyberburlap email_address_removed "'Jingle All The Way' to the bank..." -- P. Hartman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:18:10 -0600 From: "Korg Eksthrey" To: Subject: Posers and stuff. Message-ID: >You may be a poser if you go to a guitar shop, pick up a new guitar and >then play the opeing riff of [insert Nirvana song here]. Possibly so. I just met one tonight, my friend's cousin. Let me honestly say I have never met a poser till today. I usually try to avoid contact with them. It was kinduv funny actually, since I was in my room playing guitar and he started asking me if I can play Metallica so I said I used but I've forgotten how to play most of their stuff. (Now keep in mind I really haven't been worrying about playing other people's stuff for about 2 years, so I've forgotten most of it). He keeps pestering me to play Enter Sandman so I finally start and he just starts wowing and commenting what a great guitar player I am (I quite honestly admitthat I suck leg, but that's beside the point. Praise is praise) :) Anyway, I start into Motorbreath and he just maintains a blank stare. I play One he freaks. I play Fade to Black. Blank stare. I see the pattern. I try again. I play Silent Lucidity he freaks, I play I Don't Believe in Love, blank stare. Of course he really freaked when I started playing Wait for Sleep so I guess there still might be hope. :) And I thought you guys were just being overdramatic about this. :) Anyway, I saw Air Force One tonight. Great flick. Used quite a few too many cliche parts (like the wire crossing trick from Space Camp and various other movies). It did keep my attention the whole way through so it must have been pretty good. ;) Anyway, you guys enjoy your Fates show, since I won't be able to see em. Buy me a T-Shirt or something and I'll send you the cash (honest!) Take care! KorgX3 email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 23:25:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Fuller To: email_address_removed Subject: Dream Theater MP3 File - Yes Medley Message-ID: I recently found a copy of a Dream Theater MP3 file: Yes Medley (Dream Theater w/Steve Howe) Machine Messiah/Heart of the Sunrise/ Close to the Edge/Siberian Khatru/Würm (instrumental; 31 Jan. 1995) This file is 5.46M/Bytes in size, and CD quality.(of a live performance, that is). If anyone would like the file, I can E-mail it to you. email_address_removed http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/3079/ _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com ------------------------------ Date: 30 Jul 97 09:52:21 +0200 From: "Ollila Marko" To: Ytse Jam (Dream Theater Mailing List) Subject: Prog/Death Message-ID: Greetings ye 'jamanoids... Vilzu wrote concerning a band called Damnatur: >guys were 16-17 years old!Has anyone else heard of a band mixing death >metal and prog? >-Vilzu- Lemme see, Cynic (US), Atheist (US), Sadist (ITA), Nocturnus (US) and Pestilence (HOL) come into mind instantaneously....then there's some dark/black metal bands with some prog influences like Arcturus (NOR). I hope this helps. _Mape_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:07:28 -0400 From: "Matt Lamoureux" To: Subject: Trail of Tears Message-ID: Carlos Alfaro wrote: >Umm i was in class today and the teacher said something about "trail of >Tears" being someting that had to do with the cherokee (sorry if i wrote >it wrong) .. i wonder..is the DT song Trial or Trail of tears? .. and >would it be related??!? There was a song about the Trail of Tears by Europe on "Final Countdown" album. IMHO - a pretty decent band with good, thoughtful lyrics. It was about the Cherokee being moved from their land to a reservation. I don't remember the particulars but it was a cool song. I don't know if the DT song is of a similar vein. I'd be interested to know also. Anyone? - Matt Matt Lamoureux E-mail: email_address_removed Site: http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/matt_l IRC: Swordsman "Angel in our pocket, devil by our side, It's time to be Immortal, 'cause heroes never die!" - adaped from Megadeth's "Blood of Heroes" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:50:56 +0300 (EET DST) From: Raivo Hool To: email_address_removed Subject: cherokees and the trail of tears Message-ID: > Umm i was in class today and the teacher said something about "trail of > tears" being someting that had to do with the cherokee (sorry if i wrote > it wrong) .. i wonder..is the DT song Trial or Trail of tears? .. and The Trail of Tears was what Indians called the long road to the Oklahoma reservation, where they were pushed away to make room for white folks. I've no idea as to where the Cherokees came into the picture. Maybe they thought up the term... Even if the song isn't connected to the Trail Of Tears (it being Trial Of Tears), it's still quite well put title... Raitz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:24:50 +0200 From: Pedro Filipe To: email_address_removed Subject: 8-p Message-ID: Does anyone have the sound bytes of the JP instructional video in .wav/real audio format? Is there a site where I can get these? Is there any intructional video from Portnoy? |-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-| | We are: FleXable (Francisco Miguel) & Apicultor (Pedro Filipe) | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | "Practice, practice, practice" - Michael Angelo | | "Hello me, it's me again..." - Dave Mustaine | | "We may be human, but we're still animals" - Steve Vai | | "Happy Happy Happy Joy Joy Joy" - Ren & Stimpy | |-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:32:24 PDT From: "Ville Rassi" To: email_address_removed Subject: spiritual DT Message-ID: Hello jammers! >Does it talk to you spiritually? Yeah,definitely.When I want to mellow out,I always listen to Space dye vest,Lifting shadows off a dream,and Wait for sleep. Those songs touch me deep inside.Also Surrounded has kind of a religious message in it."Let light surround you" -Vilzu- "I can learn to resist,anything but temptation" Rush:"Resist" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 16:16:14 +0200 From: "Iumentum" To: "Ytsjejam" Subject: Another day in Norway... Message-ID: <199707301417.QAA12798@online.no> A couple of years ago a cd called "More Power Ballads" came out in Norway. It contained DT's Another Day. This could have given DT a lot of attention, but no one ever tried to play anything on the radio to make it a hit. The interesting ting is this.. Whenever I play DT for girls they just say it is to heavy, and they don't like James vocals... But when I show them Another Day, they love that song... I actually had to copy that song to one of them to... She didn't want anything else that that song... A month ago I heard a nation wide radio station play ACOS ... Only the first ten minutes... But it made me fall of the chair and nearly crush my guitar ! :) Alexander ------------------------------ Date: 30 Jul 97 17:06:33 EDT From: Hein Vandenabeele To: ytsejam Subject: NWOBHM SOD.... Message-ID: SOD consisted of Charlie Benante and Scott Ian from Anthrax, Danny Lilker (Nuclear Assault) and Billy Milano (Anthrax roadie ???)......... Other NWOBHM: Raven, Tank, Diamond Head, BlitzKrieg, Satan, ... Lars Ulrich of Metallica was a huge NWOBHM fan and he made a double (?) compilation CD with only NWOBHM songs... Must be very interesting. CU H. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:30:38 -0700 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: gone fishi--Silverchair, and crappy DT songs Message-ID: Hi everyone, > From: email_address_removed > Subject: Oh yeah, I forgot > We were expecting some new DT material to be played while Fates was > getting set up.... > but we got Silverchair instead. :P Maybe the new DT sounds like Silverchair... ;-) ___ Hey could somebody be so kind as to tell me what songs have only been released as b-sides? DT songs that is! :) I know Eve and TLF but any others? John McCabe email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:46:46 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro To: El Jam Subject: apocalyptica Message-ID: has anyone purchased this cd... apocalyptica.. its some acclaimed celloists playing metallica songs.. ive read very good reviews about it and im very interested in it.. does anyone haveit.. that can send me a wav or something?? -- "At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur. The risk to survival is severe." Ian Malcolm http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:48:17 -0400 From: "Blevins, Mike" To: "'ytsejam'" Subject: Fantasy football and DT questions... Message-ID: OK, first off - let's have some more participation here! We have a big FOUR people in the Ytsejam Fantasy Football League at ESPN's Sportzone. We need ten, I believe, to keep it in the family. There have to be six more people on this list that are interested... Now for some DTC: (oh my god - from me!) Does anyone out on this here list know whom it is that manages and or books our beloved DT? An acquaintance of mine is interested in booking them for a show (in MD - yeah!), but doesn't know how to get ahold of their representatives... Anyone out here know? TTFN Mike (I feel like a sig today...) Division - The clock is ticking - nine days until Fates in Springfield... http://www.crosslink.net/~division or human email email_address_removed ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2806 **************************