YTSEJAM Digest 2714 Today's Topics: 1) Mood songs... by "Jeremy P. Kube" 2) This "jam" has turned to total BULLSHIT!! by Jonathan Case 3) SM by "Dale R. Newberry" 4) Blind Justice by "Jeremy P. Kube" 5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2711 by Chris Ptacek 6) What the F#$K! by "Jeremy P. Kube" 7) Re: Munetaka Higuchi and Dream Castle (NDTC) by "Steven C. Young" 8) Paramaecium/Klank by "Dale R. Newberry" 9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2713 by Chris Ptacek 10) My idea of Mood Songs by "Nicole R. Stachowicz McWatters" 11) Re: Saviour Machine/Klank by "Dale R. Newberry" 12) Re: My idea of Mood Songs by Brandon Elhai 13) Re: Bad mood songs by Gustavo Galembeck 14) My Band's New CD!! by "Brian K. Adams" 15) Chirs Donahue by "Dale R. Newberry" 16) A QUESTION????? by "Randy Shewey" 17) Rush Chronicle by Christopher Bellardine ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 23:52:15 -0400 From: "Jeremy P. Kube" To: email_address_removed Subject: Mood songs... Message-ID: someone wrote: No, this isn't a Pure Moods ad... I'm wonderin' what songs are out there that ppl listen to when they feel they're in the shitter, tha dumps, really low 'n shit. Something to bring you up or just keep your mind preoccupied to prevent the really bad thoughts to start churning. My favorites are: Space Dye Vest Eve (studio version is on Silent Man single) November Rain (Gn'R) Infinity Christmas (Thanks to Gravity, this band will be having a major label debut in Sept. on Capitol, get it, it'll be worth your money) Nobody's Hero (Rush) Right Now (Van Halen) I have more that I can't remember, but I will remember at some point. Lata, J ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 22:55:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Case To: email_address_removed Subject: This "jam" has turned to total BULLSHIT!! Message-ID: Losers: I haven't bothered to post, and it's obvious why!!!!!!!!!! Where is the fuckin' coordinator?!!?? We once "enforced" rules about posting about homosexuality, religion, etc. Now, that's about the only thing that everyone has to argue about. W T F ???!!! I say again: What the Fuck??!! Who cares how we have formed our opinions in that area of life. Just respect everyone else's opinions regardless of what they are. I am a practicing Christian, and yes, some of these remarks are upsetting me, but if I wanted to read about rebuttals against my religion, I would look for another talk group. Nobody should have to be reading crap about bashing Christians, NOR should non-Christian's or whatever you are, have to read preaching, with a certain kind of religion trying to be SHOVED down someone else's throat. CHURCH and community is for that, not our BELOVED DREAM THEATER jam. I am sorry that some fellow Christian's think this place should be used to spread the "Word". I'm also sorry that others have to endure getting their religion and lifestyles bashed. STOP IT YOU SHIT HEADS!!!! Again, I say STOP IT SHIT HEADS! And stop the gay talk. Leave this topic alone..... Who you screw is your OWN business and your privacy!!!!! Finally, I ask again, where is the coordinator (is it Pat?) of this jam. It's gone totally to hell lately. Let's fix this and start talking about Dream Theater material, the new Enchant CD (I'm shocked that I haven't stumbled across any comments on them yet....), What's going to happend to Van Halen? Are they coming out with a new CD sometime?? Also, I've ordered Lemur Voice's CD, Enchant's "A Blueprint of the world", Echolyn's "As the World" (I don't know if I have all these titles correct), and Stratovarious's new CD. Opinion's on these CDs, and NOT on whether I do people up the ass or otherwise, and NOT questions about whether I believe in evolution or if we should live on FUCKING Mars. Who GIVES A SHIT??!! We have a probe there now and it's cool!! God should send people to hell for not talking about music on here!!! Jon "in a shitty mood" Case Now shape up this jam, so I don't have to just delete every message because I look at the titles of the postings and they're all about religion, sexuality, etc. It sucks....So, I'm gonna continue to delete them until it gets better...... ----------------------------------------------------- | Jonathan L. Case | | Graduate Research Assistant -University of OK- | | (Center for Analysis and Prediction of Storms) | | School of Meteorology: (405)-325-6561 | | Office: 1518 in Sarkey's Energy Center | | Norman, OK -73069- | | E-mail: email_address_removed | | Home page: http://rossby.ou.edu/~jcase | ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 23:05:01 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" To: email_address_removed Subject: SM Message-ID: I don't know if this has been posted yet or not (I have a TON of jams to go through), but Saviour Machine is supposed to be touring the US next summer with Spyglass Blue, Eva O, and Wedding Party. I caught Saviour Machine twice at the Cornerstone Festival this past week. The first performance of Legend Pt. 1 ever for the second set, and some stuff from the first two albums for the first set. Met the guys and chatted some. Really cool people. More details on all that later, though :). Dale R. Newberry P.S. The new Tourniquet rocks. Pretty diverse album. I snagged an advance copy. It's due out Sept. 2. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 23:58:29 -0400 From: "Jeremy P. Kube" To: email_address_removed Subject: Blind Justice Message-ID: I pulled a CD out of my rack today that I hadn't listened to in about a year or so. I am glad I did. It was by a "local band" called Blind Justice out of New Haven Ct. It is Heavy metal with some r&b (they have a scratcher) and light positive rap (which if it has a backing band that is cool, can be fun, I like RATM) Anyways, I really dig this band, has anyone out of the New Haven area seen or heard of them? Are they back together, still together etc, etc? Lata, J ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 23:02:31 -0500 From: Chris Ptacek To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2711 Message-ID: >From: Graeme Nicholson >Subject: Re: Ron Thal >Starting with Hermit is kind of the wrong way round! Ron has one other >album, "The Adventures of Bumblefoot", and an eight track demo. Bumblefoot >was before Hermit, and it's entirely instrumental besides a secret comedy >track on the end. There is NOTHING familiar about his style on Bumblefoot >to those other guitarists - that's why he stood out to me. It's as fresh as an Irish Spring, or a Summer's Eve. Ron is a hero of mine, if you can't tell. >There's a lot of phenomenal playing on there, and his tracks are wildly >inventive. Hermit caught me quite off guard with its sound after this, but >I still think it's a brilliant album. The whole of Bumblefoot has a kind >of weird humour about it, and there are things he does on there that you >honestly won't even be able to contemplate what he's doing to the guitar. But if you bother him enough, he WILL tell you what he's doing! And I'm transcribing the title track from Bumblefoot for Ron's page (http://www.prognosis.com/thal MAN I need to work on this page... haven't done anything to it in a while! I could use some help!) (and I'm doing a Becker tune on my page at http://www.prognosis.com/madsman/lessons/becker.htm) so with luck, in about ten years I'll have tab for all of the album up there! >Also, Ron's a very nice guy with plenty of time for his praising fans like >me, he used to write to me a lot. He's been busy working on music, producing some new bands, and playing gigs in France (all for the cheese) even though he's from New Jersey. He is supposedly in a Manowar/Metallica/80's metal tribute band too. :) Sounds like his type of insanity! >I'm wonderin' what songs are out there that ppl listen to when they feel >they're in the shitter, tha dumps, really low 'n shit. Something to >bring you up or just keep your mind preoccupied to prevent the really bad >thoughts to start churning. For me, it's really loud Michael Hedges. The music is so dynamic, that the volume just makes it amazing. If you listen to Aerial Boundaries with headphones, or on the stereo, loud enough that you can hear the man breathe, it will move you. It's just one acoustic guitar track, and an emotionally inspired genius making perfect music for dreaming and thinking about the things that have less than pretty soundtracks in your head. Jason Becker's Perpetual Burn affects me in a similar manner, though dissimilar to Hedges in every aspect but emotion and true passion for the music they play. I would love for everyone to be able to experience these albums in the way that I do. >From: email_address_removed >To: undisclosed-recipients:; Damn. Passed over again! Man... I'm always a Bridesmaid... Chris W. Ptacek Musician and Listener A.K.A Madsman, on IRC "Can we search for inspiration -- those ideas that just come from 'nowhere'? They don't surface when you're tHiNKinG. They just come. What we CAN do is make fertile the ground on which idea seeds fall." - Michael Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 00:01:54 -0400 From: "Jeremy P. Kube" To: email_address_removed Subject: What the F#$K! Message-ID: Some imposter loser wrote: I'm a looser and I listen to the spice girls, Two can play that game fuckface What is this crap? Do we need this? Why is this here? I'm one to talk responding to this bullshit, but something has to be said, COME ON! Let's talk about SOMETHING, not useless bullshit! I'd rather hear someone talk about religion then post something as useless as this! Lata, J ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 21:03:15 -0700 From: "Steven C. Young" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Munetaka Higuchi and Dream Castle (NDTC) Message-ID: 'Jammers -- I found this bit of info on the Dokken page: DIO, Don Dokken, Jeff Pilson, Ty Tabor, Billy Sheehan, Steve Vai and others have made a CD in Japan called "Munetaka Higuchi and Dream Castle". Does anybody know anything about this CD and how to get it? Steve Y email_address_removed "mmmm...desTROY!!!" -- Motley Crue (intro to Generation Swine CD) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 23:24:50 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" To: email_address_removed Subject: Paramaecium/Klank Message-ID: Cool about Paramaecium. I saw the WtAF CD at a booth this past week, but it was something like $25 or $30. Also, if anyone digs the heavy industrial-type stuff, check out Klank if you haven't already. One of the best shows of Cornerstone. Probably the best crowd for any recent show I've been to. Some intense beats there. I picked up the Still Suffering CD, too. I noticed he thanks "Mike and Dream Theatre" in it :). I got the chance to hang out and chat with Daren Diolosa (main man behind Klank) some. Very cool guy. Has a lot of energy (evident in the live show). I think I saw him hanging out at nearly every show I went to, too. Dale R. Newberry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 23:23:54 -0500 From: Chris Ptacek To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2713 Message-ID: >BTW, anyone know why Ron Thal left Shrapnel? I don't think it's completely official yet... but I do know the story. However, I told him I wouldn't tell it, so write him at email_address_removed >From: "Ollila Marko" >To: Ytse Jam (Dream Theater Mailing List) >Subject: Bad mood songs, logic, neo-classical guitar, Mi >[Bad mood songs] >For me the best stuff to listen to while I'm having one of my bad mood swings >is Ulver's "Kveldssanger". It's totally acoustic, utterly depressive and very >monotone yet very melancholic and beautiful. It just takes me so down that >there's nowhere to go but up. Mr. Gallop, I know you have this disc too, have >you used it as a medication for bad mood swings? Lemme second this. If you ever wanted to buy a black metal album, don't buy Kveldssanger. :) Ulver is a sick band, with a really beautiful album there. That album reminds me a lot of Matheos's (Fates Warning) First Impressions (ANOTHER killer mood album!) >[Neo-classical guitar] >We've all heard Yngwie. Forget him, he's gone stale (but I can't wait his >totally classical album). Some of us have heard of Chris Impellitteri. >Granted, he shreds like no one else. Can anyone tell me if "Answer to the >Master" is as good as "Screaming Symphony" and "Stand in Line"? Here's my >tip of the day for the connoiseurs of neo-classical guitar virtuoso: get >Timo Tolkki's "Classical Variations and Themes". You'll be surprised. Well, while I think Yngwies albums have been pretty boring lately, he is not boring live. The man still has it, eve if the songs sound similar. He has a style, and YES, there's no denying that there are some licks that he uses over and over, but live, you manage to forget that. Timo's almost there, IMO... something still doesn't click with his music for me. Impelliteri is only fast. Stand in Line had some blazing emotional solos... but that's where it ended as far as I'm concerned. That 17th Century Chicken Pickin' tune is so simplistic and tired... I KNOW he still has it somewhere in him... I just hope he finds it. >Btw, MICHAEL.ANGELO was here in Helsinki a week ago promoting Washburn >guitars. How low can a former guitar hero get? Yikes. YES! Don't knock MICHAEL.ANGELO.! He is still a MAJOR SHRED MACHINE! :) Later! Chris W. Ptacek Musician and Listener A.K.A Madsman, on IRC "Can we search for inspiration -- those ideas that just come from 'nowhere'? They don't surface when you're tHiNKinG. They just come. What we CAN do is make fertile the ground on which idea seeds fall." - Michael Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 23:35:31 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nicole R. Stachowicz McWatters" To: email_address_removed Subject: My idea of Mood Songs Message-ID: Hey! :) I've got a slightly different spin on what I like to listen to when I'm depressed. Usually, anything by Rush will do it when I want to pick myself up. :) But that goes without saying. But when I want to stay depressed (and kind of wallow in self-pitty), I'll listen to movie soundtracks. Those who know me can understand that. ;) More specifically, I like the "Somewhere in Time" soundtrack - lots of classical piano and strings. Really tugs at the ol' heartstrings. The other is the original motion picture SCORE from the movie "Philadelphia." If "La Mamma Morta" doesn't make me cry, nothing will. :') Oh, and my new hubby Ken wants to add somthing. :) Dionyzus here. :) I just wanted to say that they may not have originated the blues, but Led Zeppelin taught me the blues. I always go back to them when I'm down. :) Happy 'Jamming! :) -Nicole & Ken McWatters Nicole Rene Stachowicz McWatters | The sleep is still in my eyes Undergrad Professional Writing Major | The dream is still in my head University of Houston-Downtown | I close my eyes and ... smile email_address_removed | And lie a while in bed. http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039 | Kirby on irc.dreamt.org | "Soliloquy" _2112_ by Rush ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 23:54:44 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Saviour Machine/Klank Message-ID: > Carnival of Souls (Dale? I'm not sure on that one.) Yep, that's the one :) >They hope to release their CD-ROM in December 1997 Whoa, I didn't catch that. Cool :). >I took 3 rolls of p[ictures at the SM shows. Let me know how they turn out. I must agree that this was one (well, two) KILLER show. The sound mix was excellent, too, especially for playing under a tent on a small stage. Man, I've got Klank's album in the player right now. Parts remind me a bit of Fear Factory at times, but not quite as "Cookie Monster," vocally, and a bit slower and moodier in parts. Dale R. Newberry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 00:54:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Brandon Elhai To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: My idea of Mood Songs Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Nicole R. Stachowicz McWatters wrote: > Hey! :) I've got a slightly different spin on what I like to listen to > pick myself up. :) But that goes without saying. But when I want to > soundtracks. Those who know me can understand that. ;) More > "Philadelphia." If "La Mamma Morta" doesn't make me cry, nothing will. :') > Oh, and my new hubby Ken wants to add somthing. :) > Dionyzus here. :) I just wanted to say that they may not have originated > when I'm down. :) > Happy 'Jamming! :) Jeez Nicole. Are you always happy or something? I think I count 7 smileys. Brandon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 01:57:44 -0300 (EST) From: Gustavo Galembeck To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Bad mood songs Message-ID: Hey, that's a good point! It's great to know that I'm not the only person who looks for songs that can bring a little peace of mind... Well, in my opinion no one makes this better than Kai Hansen and his band, Gamma Ray. Listen to these songs and say if you don't aggree with me: - Heaven can wait - Rebellion in Dreamland - Miracle - Man On A Mission/Faerytale - Time to Break Free Non-Gamma powerful songs: - Judgement of Heaven, Wasted Years, Infinite Dreams, Revelations (Iron Maiden) - Season Of Change (Stratovarius) - Make Believe, Carry On (Angra) - Another Day, Lifting Shadows Off A Dream (try to find the name of this band out!) Breck! =========================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 01:04:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian K. Adams" To: email_address_removed Subject: My Band's New CD!! Message-ID: Hello all..... For anyone who caught James Carey's post over the weekend I just thought I would give any of you who were interested a little insight. I live near Athens, Ohio and I just had my first jammer sighting since I subscribed to this list back in 1994. James moved to my area from New York and stopped into the music store I was working in Well, to the point, my band, Girth, just released our first CD entitled Brain Cloud. We've been described as Kings X meets Alice In Chains (I don't know if I agree or not...) James checked it out and apparently liked what he heard. I just wanted to let all of you know that our web page is not finished yet, but if any of you would like to check out a sound clip, cover art, band pix, bio, etc. Drop me a line and I'll email you one. Or if you would like to pick up a CD send me a check or money order for $12 made payable to Sideways Eight Productions and I'll send you a copy postage paid. Here's the info: Sideways Eight Productions PO Box 232 Nelsonville, Ohio 45764-0232 email_address_removed Message text written by "James Carey" YTSEJAM 2698 > Also, KUDOS to Brian Adams out in Athens, Ohio... His bands album Brain >Cloud is one of the best I've heard in a long time. Very heavy tight >rhythms, with extremely melodic undertones which really stand out in many >tracks and make the album what it is... and thats a balls to the wall >Progressive metal album. Definatly check it out. >ArchAngel >email_address_removed I hope some of you will check out our CD and let me know what you think. Brian Adams email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 00:15:06 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" To: email_address_removed Subject: Chirs Donahue Message-ID: Oh yeah, for anyone interested, Chris Donahue, formerly of Circle of Dust and Vigilantes of Love, is now the bassist for Sixpence None the Richer. Dale R. Newberry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 97 03:11:59 UT From: "Randy Shewey" To: email_address_removed Subject: A QUESTION????? Message-ID: QUESTION: What do you call a thread on ytsejam? ANSWER: A ROPE(2 reasons). 1. because it takes a chainsaw to cut the damm thing. 2.If I have to read anymore of this homo/religious crap I'm gonna start looking for one.. DTC PLEASE... RANDY SHEWEY. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 97 1:30:53 EDT From: Christopher Bellardine To: email_address_removed Subject: Rush Chronicle Message-ID: Chronicles I would get Caress of Steel. I haven't heard too much mention of it, but it may still be my 70's favorite. The Necromancer, and the Fountain of Lamneth are two Excellent songs not on Chronicles. Next would be Fly By Night only because By-Tor is not on Chronicles, and Rivendell is a great song to meditate or fall asleep to. I think Fly By Night is excellent, but slightly overated. 2112 has to be purchased asap. Something For Nothing, Tears, and Twilight Zone are all tremendous songs. AFTK is also a necessity. Xanadu, Closer to the Heart, and Cygnus X1 rock hard. Hemispheres is probably my second favorite 70's progressive rock instrumentals of all time. The song Hemispheres is totally progressive and one of my favorites. Permanent Waves, one hell of an album, but I would agree that this was their first transitionary album. Natural Science, Jacobs Ladder, The Spirit of Radio, and Different Strings are all superb progressive songs. Moving Pictures, probably their best produced and most popular album. Why the hell isn't YYZ on Chronicles. Signals IMHO is another transitionary album, but very good and still progressive. The Weapon, Losing It, Subdivisions, and The Analog Kid are all killer tunes; definitely more keyboard oriented, except for Analog Kid and The Enemy Within. I think this album is overproduced and not very progressive at all, but I still listen to it because it's Rush. Power Windows is pretty good, and more progressive than GUP. Manhatton Project, Marathon, and Big Money, and Territories are all songs to be listened to over and over again. This album was cool because you could hear Neil, Geddy, and Alex sort of doing their own thing on each song. Hold Your Fire is a little disappointing to me. My 3 favorite songs on this album are Mission, Turn the Page, and Lock and Key. I skip pretty much everything else. Presto got too much negative criticism. Show Don't Tell Tide as well. Roll the Bones was totally different album in itself, and very keyboard commercialized. Needless to say I like it. Bravado, and Ghost of A Chance are real good songs, but not very progressive sounding. Leave That Thing Alone is the first true instrumental done in years. It's real good, but not even close to YYZ or La Villa. Counterparts I didn't like very much at first, but the guitar work on really grew on me, and I would agree that it's Alex's best album since Moving Pictures. I think Counterparts was their most progressive sounding album since Signals. Test for Echo is good, but I don't find myself listening to it much. For UW PICO(tm) 2.8 File: .../chris154/.mm-outgoing.1399 Modified Tide as well. Roll the Bones was totally different album in itself, and very keyboard commercialized. Needless to say I like it. Bravado, and Ghost of A Chance are real good songs, but not very progressive sounding. Leave That Thing Alone is the first true instrumental done in years. It's real good, but not even close to YYZ or La Villa. Counterparts I didn't like very much at first, but the guitar work on really grew on me, and I would agree that it's Alex's best album since Moving Pictures. I think Counterparts was their most progressive sounding album since Signals. Test for Echo is good, but I don't find myself listening to it much. For some reason I think I got bored of it. I find Limbo to be their very weakest instrumental. The Color of Right, Dog Years, Time and Motion, and the title track are definitely good progresive songs. Maybe my opinion of this album will change like counterparts. Needless to say Rush has a hell of a lot of albums, and they are a great live band. For the Beginner Rush fan I would recommend Chronicles, but I would stongly recommend Caress of Steel. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2714 **************************