YTSEJAM Digest 2672 Today's Topics: 1) bootleg by D 2) Stupid people are idiots by email_address_removed 3) bye by Chris Oates 4) Re: Regarding Angra... by email_address_removed.br (Mário) 5) Jammin' up the Jam all by myself by Tim Caudill 6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2671 by email_address_removed 7) YTSEJAM digest 2671 by " @BULL" <"@BULL"@bull.net> 8) Re: pro concert going by "The Evil Midnight Bomber" 9) NDTC whatsoever by Big Swifty 10) Helmet (NDTC) by email_address_removed 11) Take Away My Pain by "DJW" 12) guitarz & whitewolf by WhiteWolf 13) A little hint . . . by Graham Borland 14) RUSH by Hein Vandenabeele 15) Re: ONE LAST TIME!!!! by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 16) Hit Diggity Dog by Jon Parmet 17) thanks! by BrentReurich 18) WASP Two! by BrentReurich 19) Why you little... (think Simpsons) by Buck Stodgers 20) Re: Regarding Angra... by Carlos Alfaro 21) Cathedral/Waltari by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 00:07:50 -0400 From: D To: email_address_removed Subject: bootleg Message-ID: Can anybody tell me where I could find a bootleg of the "Fix for 96" tour at the Birch Hill Night Club? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 21:11:11 -0700 (MST) From: email_address_removed To: Ytsejam Mailing List Subject: Stupid people are idiots Message-ID: Vince 'n I were trottin' down our local super mall, Metrocenter, yesterday and swung into Camelnot Music, just ta see if they had any cool shit on the shelves 'n what not.... Right when we walked in we saw the great "New Releases" stand, with Cd's placed in thier somewhat respective "categories." Get this: Under the ALTERNATIVE label lay Megadeth's new one, CW. "Hmmm...let's switch the labels! There's a blank one over there..." Right before we switched 'em though, a "customer service representative" aka Twatboy came over and asked us how we were doing. Vince, "What's this CD doing under the Alternative label?" Twatboy, "Huh? No it's not." Me, "Well, I think I can read right...yep. That says Alternative." Twatboy, "Well, let me see. (2 minutes later) Oh, you know why it's under the Alternative label? We were playing it a couple days ago, have you heard it?" Both Vince and I, "Um. We own it." Twatboy, "Yeah, isn't it different? It's like they've gone soft or something man. They've like, sold out." I started giggling while Vince retorted, "Um, I wouldn't quite say that with tracks like Disintegrators and She-Wolf on it." That's pretty much the end of it. There's more, but we didn't really want to spend our time enlightening some dude with spiked, dyed-blonde hair. BTW, does dying it blonde make you a "wannabe airhead"? Here's my nickel's worth of DTC in this adventure: Look for the new DT CD in the Alternative section if you're buying from any major store. You'll prolly have an easier time finding it. Then again, Alternative will be dead in a couple months, won't it? >:) Rock hard, Live hard, Be hard! ~Eckie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 21:11:50 -0700 From: Chris Oates To: email_address_removed Subject: bye Message-ID: Be back in 5 weeks. Gone to England! :) __ /\ __ __\/__\/__ ~Chris \_||_/ http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/ /__||__\ // \ | \\ "Let nothing bleed into nothing, and did nothing at all" \| Jim Matheos, Fates Warning, "A Pleasant Shade of Gray" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 01:16:32 -0300 From: email_address_removed.br (Mário) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Regarding Angra... Message-ID: >I have seen advertised a couple of other releases by these guys, >including "Holy Live". "Holy Live" is an EP...There is another EP called "Freedom Call"...These and "Angels Cry" and "Holy Land" are all their oficcial albuns...There is a single "Evil Warning" (only released in Japan).... >Can I get any recommendations as to whether these are >worth the price of an import? All are wonderful,in my opinion... >I thought these 2 were their >only LP's. Also, any track listings, especially for "Holy Live", would be >very helpful. "Holy Live"-1-"Crossing" 2-"Nothing To Say" 3-"Z. I. T. O." 4-"Carolina IV" 5-"Unfinished Allegro" 6-"Carry On" "Freedom Call"-1-"Freedom Call" 2-"Queen Of The Night (remixed version)"-the original version is in their demo tape "Reahing Horizons" 3-"Reaching Horizons"-from their demo tape 4-"Stand Away (orchestral version)" 5-"Painkiller"-from Judas Priest tribute 6-"Deep Blue (edit version)"Land" album There 2 bonus tracks in the Brazilian version-"Angels Cry" and "Never Understand",both Live Acoustic verions of the songs.... Mario ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 00:09:07 -0400 From: Tim Caudill To: "'DT Nuts'" Subject: Jammin' up the Jam all by myself Message-ID: Sorry 'bout that all. I lurk for months, finally post to the Jam (just = being a nice guy, i might add), get my first EOJ, and i screw up = everyone's jam in the process...how the hell did that happen? Well, just wanted to apologize for my waste of bandwith by...taking up = more bandwidth! DT9-23-97! Later, Big G s y m m e t r email_address_removed "So would you tell me now are life and death a symmetry?" - Savatage, = HOR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 01:00:25 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2671 Message-ID: hey, is there a mIRC chat room for DT or Metallica? also where can I find the new Megadeth CD on the net. i'm looking for a few RA songs. -ryan ____________________________________________________________ email_address_removed " It's all fun and games 'til someone loses an eye. Then it's just as fun, but ya can't see." -James Hetfield (Metallica) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 08:29:41 +0100 From: " @BULL" <"@BULL"@bull.net> To: email_address_removed Subject: YTSEJAM digest 2671 Message-ID: <0039600000174900000002L002*@MHS> Status Distribution Unknown , :: The message regarding "" sent on Unknown , :: was sent by Status Recipient Type To Native Name email_address_removed Foreign Native Name email_address_removed Recipients Status Reporters Type From Name Domain NOTES Native Name *@BULL Foreign Native Name *@BULL\nBULL\n\n Last Name *@BULL Status 769 Explanation Invalid recipient X.400 Status 769 Explanation Utilisateur * non recens=DA dans le Carnet d'adresses p= ublic = ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 01:34:16 +0000 From: "The Evil Midnight Bomber" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: pro concert going Message-ID: > what are you Dale ??? a professional concert goer ??? seems your going > everywhere dude! ahhhhh more power to ya! *sulks off to contain his jealousy...* Well, now that's an interesting idea. Anyone want to pay me to go to shows? That would rock. Talk about a sweet job :). Good shows tend to happen in clusters around here. I saw Rush and Ozz Fest two days apart. The Cornerstone Festival is next week (where I'm seeing Tourniquet and Saviour Machine (their first US performance in four years baybeee!!! :), also Atomic Opera (is Fourth Estate playing this year anyone? They did last year and I missed them) and a ton of other bands (really looking forward to Iona). Let's see, the HORDE fest is July 25 here, Megadeth is August 4. I like catching cheap shows, too (like when I saw I Mother Earth last December for $5 :). And I do hope to video Tourniquet and Saviour Machine (if I can rent a good camcorder). I just dig live music. Dale R. Newberry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 01:41:16 -0500 From: Big Swifty To: email_address_removed Subject: NDTC whatsoever Message-ID: > From: Adam Barnhart > Five Gratutious CD's: > ===================== > 1. Rush: Fly By Night > 2. Metal Church: Blessing in Disguise > 3. ELP: Pictures At An Exhibition > 4. Kansas: Leftoverture > 5. Pearl Jam: Vitalogy Wheee! 5 out of 5! Twice in 2 months :) 88 days until new DT (straight from the Derek's mouth), Mark Peters email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 03:06:50 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Helmet (NDTC) Message-ID: I saw Helmet at a smaller venue last night. About halfway through the show, I accomplished my goal of holding the rail for the barricade, and Page Hamilton was right in front of me. Before the encore, he asked the crowd for requests, and I yelled "Gigantor!" (from Saturday Morning's Greatest Hits). At that point he looked at me and said, "It's not that I don't like you, I just don't like the song." At that point, they went into "Unsung" and then "Just Another Victim". After the show, I got to meet all of the guys, who were really down to earth. I talked to John, the drummer, about his experiences growing up in drum corps. Chris, the new guitarist, was really cool, and was ready to enjoy the Flats of Cleveland. But the best was when I met Page: we talked about Coltrane. I asked him what his favorite Coltrane album was, and he listed several as his favorites. We also talked about guitar pickups, because his new ESP has DiMarzio single-coils in the neck and middle position. He also mentioned that touring with Korn and Marilyn Manson was great and that they're normal people, it's just that the latter wears pantyhose. Overall, it was a great experience and great show, so catch Helmet when they come to your town. You won't be disappointed. Jack ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 97 08:31:25 PDT From: "DJW" To: email_address_removed Subject: Take Away My Pain Message-ID: Hi, I recently got hold of a Fix for 96 Boot (Providence Dec 96 - thanks to Mr Polzin (no really - thanks alot mate!)). So I've now had a chance to listen to some new stuff and I must say that it all sounds most cool - I cannot wait for the new CD. I think that "Burning My Soul" is probably the best with "Where Are You Now" (not from the gig but tacked on the end of my tape) very close behind. I also think that "Take Away My Pain" is splendid - some excellent chord sequences - I think it has a big Images And Words feel to it. Anyway - get to the point - there's a bit of guitar in "Take Away My Pain" that has been really annoying me - it sounds like something I've heard before - and this morning I finally remembered. Check out the ending of "Holy Lamb" (Yes - Big Generator). It is so similar! Great stuff though! Dave (a UK Jammer). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 03:37:18 -0600 From: WhiteWolf To: email_address_removed Subject: guitarz & whitewolf Message-ID: >overlarge mirror sunglasses; Petrucci's holding what appears to be a >"non-Ibanez" guitar. What is that thing anyway? And Uncannily Myung doesn't > whitewolf tells me that's an ibanez talman series guitar. things are looking better for him. he'll be home this weekend and i'm outta here. techrat btw thanx to all concerned. he says he's gonna try and e-mail the list sometime soon but don't count on it. one hand typing's a bitch. l8tr ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- forget cable modems. you haven't seen speed 'till you've uplinked via satellite! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:38:29 +0100 (BST) From: Graham Borland To: YtseJam Subject: A little hint . . . Message-ID: I remember someone mentioning that putting "From" at the start of a new line can have nasty effects. Well, similar things happen with "begin". My mail program intelligently(?) tried to uudecode the entire second half of jam 2670, with gruesome results! Just something to bear in mind for future posts :-) Graham -- Graham Borland Email : gborland@apsoft.co.uk WWW : http://www.apsoft.co.uk Alternative Publishing Ltd Tel : 0141 418 0881 30 Clyde Place, Glasgow G5 8AQ Fax : 0141 418 0889 ------------------------------ Date: 27 Jun 97 11:02:30 EDT From: Hein Vandenabeele To: ytsejam Subject: RUSH Message-ID: Anyone an idea when these guys come to Europe, or rather, to Belgium ????? Thanx. Hein. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 02:26:26 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: ONE LAST TIME!!!! Message-ID: John Petrucci's response to Blind Melon was pretty much this... "They're a good band, it's a shame..." That's not a verbatim quote... -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: email_address_removed #$%#$#$% *$%&%#$* Global Micro Solutions #$#$#@@# *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ #$@#$#@# http://progmetal.gmsnet.com @#$@##@$ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:51:49 +0000 From: Jon Parmet To: email_address_removed Subject: Hit Diggity Dog Message-ID: Hey, at least it's somewhat Music related :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Believe it or not, the following number is a service center for a major company. Call it and you'll get a laugh. 1-800-672-2754 Stay on the line until prompted, then choose option #1. If its busy, try calling back. It's DEFINATELY worth it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Have a great weekend, Jon *------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | email_address_removed | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 22:54:22 +1000 (EST) From: BrentReurich To: email_address_removed Subject: thanks! Message-ID: >>Hey, you just perfectly described Iced Earth's Dark >>Saga. Hey Dark Saga was in my 'lunch Box' at CDNow ! Guess it won't be waiting there much longer ...thanx! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 22:54:09 +1000 (EST) From: BrentReurich To: email_address_removed Subject: WASP Two! Message-ID: Me too! I think that WASP album ( the Crimson Idol) is fantastic..... of course partly because of the penchant i have for concept albums (and the depth and emotion and meaning they lend to the songs) ..... but also basically because this album rocks! Great metal - crisp , clear, and ocassionally complex - (check out some of the drumming here...) Great song structure too - Heres to Blackie!! BTW anyone know the WASP album released after TCI - I can't remember its name .... apparently it was also good ... but not quite in the same league. c-ya zajk- 5 discs rocking my world ----------------------------- 1. Saviour Machine II 2. Hear in the Now Frontier - Queensryche 3. No Exit - Fates Warning 4. Keeper of the Seven Keys - Helloween 5. Within the Ancient Forest - Paramaecium ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:10:29 -0400 From: Buck Stodgers To: email_address_removed Subject: Why you little... (think Simpsons) Message-ID: Hello, First off: The Ytse-Trader list is now on the web (check my sig), though it is in dire need of word wrapping, we're working on the format (What's this *we* shit: ROGERIO is working on the format; Thanks Roger!). Do not send ANY comments about the list to Roger, send them to me. He's just a very nice person with web space. Mike Bahr said: >it has something to do with Megadeth and Queensryche. Hey, sometimes it >pays to live in paradise Hey now! I didn't choose to live on this coast, my parents did! Making me miss out on this 'cause I was dumb enough to stay out here. j/k :P But I'm at least working my way south... One month till the big move! Scott spake of the mighty QR: >Missing this tour when it comes to your town will *not* be permitted! Already taken care of sir. And I won't even have to go alone like I did on the PL tour! (sucks having alterna-friends) >How do I get off of this mailing list??? KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!!!!!!!!!!!! D-man said: >Actually, the faq has a transcription of the article There I go, shooting my mouth off again. Yes, I am both a fucknut and an asswipe (that's ah-swee-pay!). My apologies to the person in question. And thanks to those who gave their Marillion and My Dying Bride recommendations and the 2CD cases. Now, I just wait for payday... Where's that willpower when I need it... :P -- ______________________________________________________________ "Luminous beings are we, not this crude flesh..." -Yoda, the Jedi Master ______________________________________________________________ Andrew Forcier a.k.a. Buck Stodgers Maintainer of the List of Ytse-Traders of Repute; To submit names or request a copy, mailto:email_address_removed To view the list: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ytselist.txt -------------------------------------------------------------- --List Manager-- The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List For info, check out: http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~rfm5570/ for e-mail inquiries, mailto:email_address_removed ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:37:47 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Regarding Angra... Message-ID: email_address_removed wrote: . Also, any track listings, especially for "Holy Live", would be > very helpful. im still short of angels cry... but i have holy land + a bonus cd,with acoustic tracks, and holy live... holy live is great!! thou onli has 6 songs: crossing nothing to say z.i.t.o. carolina IV unfinised allegro carry on as you can see..at least they packed kickass songs in there :) "At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur. The risk to survival is severe." Ian Malcolm http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 97 15:37:01 +0200 From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed.de Subject: Cathedral/Waltari Message-ID: Hi all It's CD review time again. I think Mape may already have done one of them, but he 'covered' my review of the Ritchie Blackmore album recently, so what the fuck. (The phrase 'what the fuck' is copyright Kevin Moore) Cathedral - Supernatural Birth Machine Not exactly a new release, but I waited until I saw it discounted before buying. Unmistakably Cathedral and for me the best album they have done. Typical riff-based songs, heavy and dark as hell, the occasional guitar solo and the spaced-out vocals of Lee Dorrian all mix together to make this a great album to simply play loud (very) and enjoy while throwing back a couple of beers or six. Nothing fancy and certainly nothing new, but perfectly done and an album that Black Sabbath would have been proud of. 10/10 Waltari - Space Avenue Zoology question: did any of you know that there are chameleons in Finland? Well, to be exact, there are four of them and they go under the collective name of Waltari. You just can't nail this band down - as soon as you think you know what they are doing, they go off in another direction and do something totally unexpected. The last album 'Yeah, Yeah, Die, Die' saw the band hard and heavy, and now with 'Space Avenue' they have invented what I can only describe as techo-industrial post-punk metal. Very weird and crazy stuff. They run the whole range between very heavy and very poppy, sometimes in one and the same song, and the overall impression I got is that they certainly don't take themselves and what they are doing seriously and that the listners shouldn't either. A real fun album. Hopefully the next album will see them turning their not inconsiderable musical talent and wit towards neo-grunge techo-prog. 9/10 As a weekend treat, here's a fun drink for you to try from the keeper of the Ytse cocktail archives. It's called an orgasm, and it's my way of making it. Orgasm 2 ounces Bailey's irish cream 2 ounces amaretto 2 ounces coffee liqueur 2 ounces whipping cream Shake on ice in a mixer, strain into long glass, and enjoy v e r y slowly. stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: An Cat Dubh - Black Is The Colour ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2672 **************************