YTSEJAM Digest 2668 Today's Topics: 1) Megadeth video clip by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." 2) that other name on that disc by Phillip 3) Fix for 96 boot by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." 4) Rush and Shout Out... by email_address_removed (Shane Liebling) 5) RE: AOR disc by "Trevor W. Hoit" 6) NEW Theater Of Dreams Magazine is out !!! by "D. Schoen" 7) Message for Kevin White by Melissa Bahr 8) Message for Wessel Marquering by Melissa Bahr 9) Re: AOR disc (NDTC) by email_address_removed 10) stuff by Chris Oates 11) Rusheep by Chip Alexander 12) G3, Rush, Marillion, My Dying Bride... by Buck Stodgers 13) Fates in SA by Chip Alexander 14) Fates Tickets on sale for Fort Worth Show by Jason Skewes 15) Re: AOR disc (NDTC) by email_address_removed.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara) 16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2667 by Daniel Vasconcelos Gomes 17) Album of the Year by Albert Balkiewicz 18) Fates 1st album art problem (NDTC) by Kevin Madden 19) Trader List by Buck Stodgers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 01:18:16 -0500 From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." To: email_address_removed Subject: Megadeth video clip Message-ID: There is a cool clip of Megadeth playing the X-Treme Games theme song at http://espn.sportszone.com/xgames/summerx97/musicpoll.html They have both video and audio files. I downloaded an .avi file that was about 2.5 megs. It is good :) Mark Peters email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 02:06:44 +0000 From: Phillip To: email_address_removed Subject: that other name on that disc Message-ID: "It's on Me" on the new Flotsam & Jetsam disc is in Twisted Sister's font. Groovin huh? Speaking of old school tunes, I missed Ratt tonight in New Orleans. Dang it. That sucks..... I too tried to find the new Divine Regale today and after calling several stores and explaining that it's not spelled Devine Regal I gave up. I'll go looking for it eventually. Um..i'm running away now, wait a second...one more thing...could someone send me the tracklist to the new Enchant "time lost" CD? If so thanks... later Phillip Cool CD of the day: Conception "Flow" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 02:06:51 -0500 From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." To: email_address_removed Subject: Fix for 96 boot Message-ID: > Answering to the question of a jammer, "the fix for 96" 2 CD boot is the > show from Providence 12.12.96. The sound is not good, just average. It > includes 5 new songs (you all know about them!). The two bonus tracks are > taken from a Mike and John clinic in holland, and the sound is awful! > As a conclusion, I would say that this boot is not worth 60 dollars, but > it's the only one with the new songs... So make your own opinion. It might be the only CD with the new songs, but it's not the only place you can get them. If you've absolutely GOT to have them, don't buy this CD! Set up a trade with someone who has a Fix tape instead. It will save you much money, and you will have committed a sin that will have sentenced you to a lesser degree of hell :) Mark Peters email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 00:40:53 -0700 (PDT) From: email_address_removed (Shane Liebling) To: email_address_removed Subject: Rush and Shout Out... Message-ID: Hey all... I just wanted to comment on a Rush Boot I just picked up, it is called Rush Hour. It is really early, 1974. Previously the majority of the Rush stuff I had heard was Exit, Presto, Moving Pics, Hemisphres, and their newer stuff. This thing is a concert between their 1st and 2nd albums and it sounds like they are playing to a crowd of like 15 people. Oh and whoever said they sound like Led Zep, you are right. Geddy sounds like he really wants to be Robert Plant. But some of the songs are pretty cool (Fly By Night and Working Man). Hey Dr. Mosh you going to hit the Lakewood Fates Warning concert? I think I might hit that one unless a huge group is going to Corona... Email me... -Shane ____________________________________________________________________________ Student: So Master, is the soul immortal or not? Do we survive our bodily death or do we get annihilated? Do we really reincarnate? Does our soul split up into component parts which get recycled, or do we as a single unit enter the body of a biological organism? And do we retain our memories or not? Or is the doctrine of reincarnation false? Is perhaps the Christian notion of survival more correct? And if so, do we get bodily resurrected, or does our soul enter a purely Platonic spiritual realm? Sage: Your breakfast is getting cold. "Have you had your Buddha Nature today?" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 01:03:11 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: RE: AOR disc Message-ID: > Just curious.... I've seen this abbreviation come up a lot >lately. What does AOR stand for anyway? Afraid of Raisins-new prog-metal-polka from Minnesota > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 19:18:26 +0200 From: "D. Schoen" To: "Ytse Jam Mailinglist" Subject: NEW Theater Of Dreams Magazine is out !!! Message-ID: Hello Jammerz ! The new issue of Theater Of Dreams (#6) is out now and allready shipped to our subscribers !! For all the other jammers who haven't heard or seen this 3 montly fanzine, this is the time to subscribe ! fanmag # 6 has the following issue's: *Interview with JP *concert reviews on 14-04-97/15-04-97/16-04-97/19-04-97 *Guitar clinic JP 03-05-97/Koln *review French FCconvention (written by Lemur Voice's Marcel Coenen !) *reviews on the latest albums of Spock's Beard, FW, and Enchant. *Collectors Corners (Lots of DT boots) *Pictures of the Nightmare Cinema appearance *and many more DT contents ! Printed on glossy paper in complete full colour !!! How to subscribe ? ********************** For Holland: Send 30 guilders (registered recommended !) to the following adress: Theater Of Dreams Postbus 1597 2003 BP Haarlem Holland. OR: Send the same amount of money to the following Bankaccounts: Postbank Rekening nummer: 7010858 To: R.J.M Sardaro OR: ABN/Amro Heemstede Rekening nummer: 56 34 13 794 To: R.J.M Sardaro Outside Holland: Send 32.50 guilders to the above mentioned adress along with your complete adress. Alltough it's written in the dutch language it's a "Must have " for every serious DTFreak ! DO NOT MISS OUT THIS SPECIAL TOD ISSUE !!!! Denis schoen Ps: Jason Breitweg, please contact me !!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 01:57:30 -0700 (MST) From: Melissa Bahr To: email_address_removed Subject: Message for Kevin White Message-ID: Kevin White- I tried to email you but for some reason it would not go through. I checked on your PT cd and I am going to resend it on Tuesday. If you have any questions please get in touch with me. - Melissa Bahr - email_address_removed - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 01:59:38 -0700 (MST) From: Melissa Bahr To: email_address_removed Subject: Message for Wessel Marquering Message-ID: Wessel Marquering- I tried to email you but for some odd reason it would not go through. Maybe I have your address wrong. Anyways I checked on your PT cd and it should be going out sometime this week. If you have any questions please email me to let me know. Take Care! - Melissa Bahr - email_address_removed - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 05:06:42 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: AOR disc (NDTC) Message-ID: In a message dated 97-06-24 22:47:33 EDT, email_address_removed (Scott R Luttringer) writes: << Just curious.... I've seen this abbreviation come up a lot lately. What does AOR stand for anyway? >> Album-oriented rock. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 03:21:43 -0700 From: Chris Oates To: email_address_removed Subject: stuff Message-ID: Hey, don't know if this was mentioned, but I found a JP "Rock Discipline" Book and CD at my local music store. It's supposed to be pretty much the audio and score for the video, but since I haven't seen that, I don't know what they cut out. Pretty neat, tho, even for a keyboardist like me. I'm kinda glad that FW sin't touring in the Bay Area yet. With me leaving for England for 5 weeks next monday, missing Drain STH and Enchant will be enough sorrow. Missing a fates show might push me over the edge. ;) __ /\ __ __\/__\/__ ~Chris \_||_/ http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/ /__||__\ // \ | \\ "Let nothing bleed into nothing, and did nothing at all" \| Jim Matheos, Fates Warning, "A Pleasant Shade of Gray" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:33:58 -0500 From: Chip Alexander To: email_address_removed Subject: Rusheep Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Jun D-man wrote: >Congrats. Welcome to the fold. :) Baaaaaaa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 09:52:39 -0400 From: Buck Stodgers To: email_address_removed Subject: G3, Rush, Marillion, My Dying Bride... Message-ID: Hello, Does anyone in New Jersey know a place to get those damn double CD cases? I have no place to put my Lords of Sound disc! Bafu said: >How the $@%#!&? did he do those wacky drill-noises live? I assume you mean the "lizard-down-the-throat" technique as Joe called in in one interview. It's accomplished by playing a note with the whammy bar depressed (but not suicidal :) ) and simultaneously releasing the bar and sliding up the neck so the pitch is maintained. Impossible as fuck to do, but he can do it every time. I'm only sorry I wasn't closer to see those legato runs... On KWS: >lord knows he's heard it to his face more than once. I hope Swifty doesn't mind me quoting a private message to the Jam, but he made a great point. The best blues music comes with age and experience. Once Kenny Wayne has both, I agree he'll be a much better musician and far less of a clone. For now he adds to the genre something it needs: a fresh young face to attract younger listeners and players. >He's not exactly the frontman. I think this was part of the problem with the act for me. I couldn't pay attention to any of the players as they didn't interest me all that much until Kenny Wayne soloed. The downside of Vai's act is that ALL the players interest me too much... :) On improvisation: >That free aspect is part of the reason I love Dream Theater's shows so >much. Agreed! I appreciate the fact that Steve didn't just play the songs as on the album. I was just a bit disappointed that it wasn't as impromptu as I had thought. I can be naive at times :P. But this is the exact aspect of a live show that makes DT awesome: CiA9ITG, the Awake Heavy Jam, the covers medleys; these are what make DT so good each time you see them. Then they'll pull out a song like Scarred that you never thought you'd hear and is far better live... DT is probably the best live ACT out there. The best live PERFORMANCE was Queensryche on the PL tour, IMHO. Best live SHOW would be last fall's G3. The differences are subtle and can probably only be understood through deep hypnosis and a good deal of Southern Comfort...:) >The only reason people might not think that of Petrucci is because he >SPEAKS to his fans and lets them know he's human And that there are some songs where he doesn't wank at all. Doing Purple Rain at a clinic is cool as shit. I can see Vai doing this too, just not for any albums or at a live show. He just wants to push the envelope, which is fine by me. But I'd love another song like Sisters. And to the guy looking for a Rush album to buy: anything but the first and last albums (Rush and Test for Echo). The high point being smack in the middle: Permanent Waves. This or A Farewell To Kings should be right up your alley. Thanks to MMO for the info on the karaoke option on stereos. Quite informative! That HDCD stuff was beyond me, but thanks Tim... >2. Marallion - Made Again All right, I imagine Itchy will be all over this, but I thought I'd go to the Jam. I *really* like the song Easter on the Uncovered boot. Is this representative of Marillion? If so, and I like this song, what CD should I pick up? (In other words, which CD is Easter on?) I saw some of their CDs at the Princeton Record Exchange, but they were all over $16. I only pay that much for boots and imports (or Bahr discs :) ). Also, can someone recommend a My Dying Bride album? I remember the talk about them being good, but wasn't in the frame of mind for goth-metal at the time. -- ______________________________________________________________ "Luminous beings are we, not this crude flesh..." -Yoda, the Jedi Master ______________________________________________________________ Andrew Forcier a.k.a. Buck Stodgers Maintainer of the List of Ytse-Traders of Repute; To submit names or request a copy, mailto:email_address_removed -------------------------------------------------------------- --List Manager-- The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List For info, check out: http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~rfm5570/ for e-mail inquiries, mailto:email_address_removed ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:59:53 -0500 From: Chip Alexander To: email_address_removed Subject: Fates in SA Message-ID: On tue Jun24 someone wrote: >These are the latest Fates tour dates (some unconfirmed): >07/31 San Antonio Texas White Rabbit ? Fuck yeah! Anyone interested in going to this show email me for info or directions Here's the club's info: White Rabbit - 2410 N St Mary's - (210)737-2221 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 09:11:07 -0500 From: Jason Skewes To: email_address_removed Subject: Fates Tickets on sale for Fort Worth Show Message-ID: Tickets for the Fates Warning show in Fort Worth, TX on August 2 are on sale now! I just got mine! The show is at Caravan of Dreams in downtown Fort Worth. It's general admission, Standing Room Only. Show starts at 9 pm. No word on any opening acts. Later! Jason ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 23:24:45 +0900 From: email_address_removed.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: AOR disc (NDTC) Message-ID: At 2:18 AM 97.6.25 -0700, email_address_removed wrote: >In a message dated 97-06-24 22:47:33 EDT, >email_address_removed (Scott R Luttringer) >writes: > ><< Just curious.... I've seen this abbreviation come up a lot > lately. What does AOR stand for anyway? >> > >Album-oriented rock. REALLY??????? I think it's "ADULT ORIENTED ROCK". That means ROCK MUSIC WITHOUT NUTS. 5 latest discs rotated in my CD player. 1.Reef/GLOW (epic Sony) 2.Skid Row/Breakin' Down (Euro) (Atlantic Germany) 3.Ocean Colour Scene/ Hundred Mile High City (MCA) 4.Hughes/Thrall / Hughes/Thrall (epic Sony) 5.Ten/Ten (MVP/Zero) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- -Keiji Nishihara 　Doshisha Uni. Electric/Electronic Material Lab. Semiconductor ARRAY KYOTO JAPAN email_address_removed.ne.jp email_address_removed.ac.jp ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 11:27:03 -0300 (EST) From: Daniel Vasconcelos Gomes To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2667 Message-ID: Hey 1)for Brazillians: I have to think that you all Brazillian DT fans knows that they will play here in Monsters Of Rock concert at August 30 (I think , but I'm not sure about), at the same night that Angra, Manowar, Dio, Priest, Whitesnake, and type o negative will play. I would like to know if this date is correct.Please let me know. 2)I heard at ytsejam channel Drusillius saying that some cd stores,are saying that new DT will be released at July.Is this really true?Or these stores are just making fun with our pain?:=) 3)Last week i wrote something that, I guess, offended Helloween/Michael Kiske fans.Sorry so.But I have some problems with this new Helloween, basicaly because something I read in Angra FAQ.Michael Weitak said in an interview that the guys from Angra would be better playing soccer instead of playing metal. This thing pissed me off.Made me angry. I can't hear these new Helloween cds. But I have to say, both Keeper's are classics!!! (But I'm sure that they are good because Kai Hansen was playing with them) 4)Cds I'm looking for: Enchant:Wounded Magellan:Test Of Wills Symphony X:Tragedy Wings of destiny Anything from Cynic Anything from Death Anything from Renaissance Anything from Triumph Its not easy to find out them. Daniel V.Gomes (aka Aragorn) http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8551 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:39:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Balkiewicz To: email_address_removed Subject: Album of the Year Message-ID: I do believe that I will be doing the following: -cancelling my subscription to Rolling Stone (yes, I subscribe to it) -absolutely ignoring ANY album reviews in the mag..... The most recent issue of RS (the one with our lovable Spice Girls on the cover - that should have been a sign already) has a review of Faith No More's "Album of the Year". Now granted, I'm not a die-hard FNM fan, but I enjoyed the album and think it's great. But the reviewer proceeded to put this uninformed, biased spiel on how bad the album is (1.5/4 stars) and had the nerve to say (I'm paraphrasing here, but it's close) "And now FNM's new work is a combination of and ugh (or some other bad sound spelled out) prog rock keyboard sound........" The rest of the review goes on to spit out retarded opinions based on nothing substantial music-wise......easily, the most retarded thing I have ever read describing an album....I'm sure there has been more, but this is one that I recognized, having heard the album...... what a crock - I should really try and become an album reviewer, just so true music fans don't get their intelligence insulted....... -Al -- ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ I inhale the sun...........I exhale the absence of light I am the number One..........burning. ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ email: email_address_removed email_address_removed HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:58:55 -0700 From: Kevin Madden To: email_address_removed Subject: Fates 1st album art problem (NDTC) Message-ID: Partha asked about the "no thanks" section in "The Spectre Within" 's liner notes. I have no idea what the Anthrax bit was about, but as far as the "Night On Brocken" art problem - that I know. There are three versions of the NOB art: The first, which must have been an unmitigated disaster, was the "witch burning at the stake" album cover. I have this on vinyl, and it is pretty bad. I guess there was a second one, more cartoonish in nature. I seem to remember seeing this about 8 or 9 years ago. The last one is the simple full moon cover. I think that if a band has to make three different album covers to one album, that qualifies as a "no thanks" situation! Detroit Red Wings - 1996-97 Stanley Cup Champions Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 11:09:10 -0400 From: Buck Stodgers To: email_address_removed Subject: Trader List Message-ID: Hello, See that address in my sig? Traders can start using it. I compiled the list, and its up for distribution. I'm still tinkering with it a bit though. All I ask is that if you request it once, HOLD ON TO IT! Save me a little work, please. Of course, there will be updates, I'm sure. But I will only be doing updates on a monthly basis, so at least keep it for a month... Just so you all know, I changed the rules a bit. Since only five good traders had their names submitted more than once, I decided just to go with a *one-submission* policy. If your name is sent in once, it goes on the list. Otherwise we'd all be asking five people to trade with us. Next, do not mail bomb the people on the list asking for trades. This list should be for use if there is a question over someone you have initiated trade talks with (criminy, I feel like Steinbrenner saying that...). If I find out that this list is being misused on a large scale, I won't maintain it. If you just want to know if your name made it on there, you can ask for it for that reason too. Also, the mixed response section now includes a condition that if you completed the trade, but felt the *service or materials* were unsatisfactory. This does not mean that if you thought the recording was poor quality, just the time frame the materials were sent in and the manner in which they were sent (i.e., not the type of tape you requested, no cases sent when requested, poor mailing packaging). I decided to add a section for reputable CD distributors. So far, I have only put KTS (closing, I know) and Knights of the Round on there. Feel free to make submissions, but ONLY if you have used that distributor in the last year, and ONLY if you have the web address for the dealer. No non-web distributors will be allowed. -- ______________________________________________________________ "Luminous beings are we, not this crude flesh..." -Yoda, the Jedi Master ______________________________________________________________ Andrew Forcier a.k.a. Buck Stodgers Maintainer of the List of Ytse-Traders of Repute; To submit names or request a copy, mailto:email_address_removed -------------------------------------------------------------- --List Manager-- The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List For info, check out: http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~rfm5570/ for e-mail inquiries, mailto:email_address_removed ************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2668 **************************