YTSEJAM Digest 2654 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Cruising into a ditch of dead dogs.... by Brandon Elhai 2) itcotck by Partha Mukhopadhyay 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2652 by PANDAMAN 4) Re: a-ha by "KorgX3" 5) by Mathieu Ferland 6) New reviews (NDTC) by Pat Sullivan 7) Who taped Petrucci's clinic '97?? by "J.P.Cornelissen" 8) Spice girls WTF!!! by email_address_removed 9) Upes by "KorgX3" 10) Belief will always save me :) by Jon Parmet 11) QR show in rapid ? by email_address_removed (Scott Cook) 12) Re: Spice girls WTF!!! / MiniDisc question by email_address_removed (Scott Cook) 13) RELEASE DATE?! by Scott Duren 14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2652 by Steve Zebrowski 15) Re: make a fool of himself; Locrian mode by Rick Audet 16) dt orgasmia by "Jim Munster" 17) METAL ON MTV!!! by email_address_removed 18) Re: METAL ON MTV!!! by email_address_removed 19) I need your answer or I may not get to go to concert by email_address_removed 20) Clockwork CD by "Steve Lehrfeld" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 13:23:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Brandon Elhai To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Cruising into a ditch of dead dogs.... Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Phillip wrote: > I also got the new Stratovarius "Visions" a couple of weeks back. WOW! > This is a good one. These guys are really at the top of their game and > I don't think they get the attention they deserve amongst DT fans. The > only complaint I have about them are their lyrics...but they're easy to > look over because it's just so good. Very listenable disc. What's the > deal with the labeling though? My CD lists "Kiss of Judas" as the first > track but it's "Black Diamond" and they play Black Diamond again at the > end along with a live song (both unlisted). Anyone know what's up with > that? I think that this is on all the CDs. My friend just got this as well and told me about the same problem. Guys: Get the Stratovarius album titled "episode." It kicks major buns. The guitarist reminds me a lot of Petrucci and sometimes Steve Morse (ala "tumeni notes") on the 8th track of the album. I'm reluctant to buy prog that I haven't heard because more than once I have been disappointed. My friend had this up at school and he let me borrow it. This is now one of my favorite prog bands. I haven't gotten "visions" yet, but plan to. I have to buy some William Ackerman and Bela Fleck CDs first. :) Brandon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:00:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: itcotck Message-ID: is moonchild SUPPOSED to be so dynamically soft (relative to other tracks) pain in the ass to have to get up to adjust the volumn, even though it means a wonderful 12 minute interlude, and a nice loud return to anti-serenity as the title song kicks in...... and anyone poinitng me to a good king crimson page would be thanked profusely......... partha (lizard is my fave KC album, if anyone gives a darn, or wants to point out why i should like any other album better......) ------------------------------ Date: 19 Jun 97 12:35:21 EDT From: PANDAMAN To: "INTERNET:email_address_removed" Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2652 Message-ID: >If DT is in the studio right now, don't you think that a late July/early >August release date is a bit early? I know we all want to get the new >disc but it's no use trying to fool ourselves into believing that it's >going to be out in a month and a half. You're only setting yourself up >for a disappointment. I'd say a Sept/Oct release is far more likely. Not that I trust everything they say, but my local record shoppe (Tokyo, Japan) has the next Dream Theater album release date at Aug. 10. A bit hasty, perhaps, and it's quite predictable they'll 'postpone' the release date. However, if the news about Fates Warning playing some finished studio DT songs before they went on, maybe the August release isn't as impossible as it seems? PM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 12:50:00 -0600 From: "KorgX3" To: Subject: Re: a-ha Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC7CAF.4C6F12C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last digest misha wrote: >It's a-Ha. >Close...it's "a-ha," there aren't even capital letters! How chaotic!!! = =3D >Ahh...the great "a-ha," who released one of the greatest videos ever = =3D >with "Take Me On." That's really close, but I think it's "Take On Me" ... Boy, those nits must be prematurely ripe this year, seeing as how people = keep picking them... ------=_NextPart_000_01BC7CAF.4C6F12C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Last digest misha wrote:
>It's a-Ha.

>Close...it's "a-ha," there aren't even = capital=20 letters!  How chaotic!!! =3D
>Ahh...the great "a-ha," who released one of the greatest = videos=20 ever =3D
>with "Take Me On."
That's really close, but I think it's "Take On Me" ...

Boy, those nits must be prematurely ripe this year, seeing as how people = keep=20 picking them...

 

 ------=_NextPart_000_01BC7CAF.4C6F12C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:25:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Mathieu Ferland To: email_address_removed Message-ID: I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:25:06 -0400 From: Pat Sullivan To: email_address_removed Subject: New reviews (NDTC) Message-ID: I just got three new CD's the other day, and would like to share my thoughts. * Megadeth - Cryptic Writings I have heard a lot of positive things about this CD on the 'jam, so needless to say, my expectations for this were sky-high. Unfortunately, the album doesn't live up to them, at least not yet. I think the lyrics and some of the music on this CD are great, but dammit, I can't *hear* anything. The mix just seems very...mundane. I wish there was more crunch to it. Rating: Balls, but no Chunk. * Drain STH - Horror Wrestling I saw these ladies at OzzFest, and I was suitably impressed. Enough to go looking for the CD, in fact. This is good, hard, crunchy metal. Almost everyone I have played this for can't believe it's an all-woman band. IMO, they most closely resemble Alice In Chains (at least musically. They're *much* more attractive. :)) Rating: No Balls (anatomically), MUCHO Chunk. * Bruce Dickinson - Accident Of Birth Holy Shit, I think I have an early favorite for my album of the year! I hated Tattooed Millionaire, I didn't care much for Balls To Picasso, and I didn't even get Skunkworks, so needless to say, I was skeptical at best toward this album. I don't know if it was solely the addition of Adrian Smith, but this album SMOKES. Other than some oddball/cheesy lyrics, I have found nothing about this album that I don't like. As an aside: I noticed that this album features Bruce on vocals, Adrian Smith of guitar, and cover art by Derek Riggs - this band is more Maiden than Maiden is now. :) Rating: BALLS AND CHUNK - THIS IS WHERE IT'S AT!! ----- ____http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html IRC: DDictator Now Playing: Nothing - Work sucks. :) _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:47:11 +0200 (MET DST) From: "J.P.Cornelissen" To: email_address_removed Subject: Who taped Petrucci's clinic '97?? Message-ID: Hi everybody, Just wanted to know: who taped John Petrucci's/Derek Sherinian's clinics that they gave last month in Germany??? Please let me know, I have to lots to offer for trading!! Greetings, JOOST ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 16:06:26 EDT From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Spice girls WTF!!! Message-ID: >Someone was asking about this video(When 2 become one by the Spice >Girls). It's the funnest Spice Girls' vid yet. They're all hanging >around some city that looks like NYC, but, for some reason the >temperature changes depending on which body part the camera is >on(example: the rap chick is wearing this short shirt, but she is >wearing a long coat, and heavy pants, oh yeah, and gloves). And WTF is >up with the ending? They show some goat or something, sorry I haven't >seen it in the passed two minutes, and its just standing in the middle >of Broadway with cars speeding by nearing the time barrier. It just >doesn't make sense but that's also true for any good porn movie! ;) What the HELL is this?!?!?! This is a Dream Theater mailing list. Yes, I know we all talk about other bands, but their either other prog bands or bands like Metallica! What the F*ck is tise "Spice Girls" CRAP doing on this list? Go find somewhere else to discuss this and stop wasting space! -ryan email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:07:03 -0600 From: "KorgX3" To: Subject: Upes Message-ID: Sorry about that stupid MIME encoding crap. I think I fixed it. --KorgX3 email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 20:21:52 +0000 From: Jon Parmet To: email_address_removed Subject: Belief will always save me :) Message-ID: Henrik: > I wouldn't like to start a thread on this, so just take this humble > opinion for what it is, and leave it and have a nice day in the sun. Okey dokey :) I've never taken it any other way. I enjoy the topic.... > But I could not have imagined then, that the band would later turn > into making songs of Kansas, U2 and Beatles, for example. Well, I'll let someone else address U2 & the Beatles. As I recall, though, they do cite Kansas as one of their influences. And if you go beyond the popular radio-friendly hits that Kansas put out and dig deeper, you'll find some very progressive stuff. You might want to check out Closet Chronicles, or Portrait. Or don't :) Chip: > Not to mention Terry Bozzio - even that Missing > Persons album has those kind of fills all over it. Absotutely :) Saw Terry with Zappa, who only used the best musicians to back him up. Galloping Neil: > how do you rate Steve Howe with regard to his ability to play both electric > and acoustic guitar - there are players who are better on one or the other, > but for me, he is the player with the greatest ability/talent on both. Steve Howe certainly always ranked right up there for me! Wanna hear a guy make an acoutsic shred? Check out Jorma Kaukounen (sp?). Played with Hot Tuna, Jefferson Airplane. Latah, Jon *------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | email_address_removed | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 13:32:24 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Scott Cook) To: email_address_removed Subject: QR show in rapid ? Message-ID: OK, Whoever went to the Queensryche show in Rapid, fess up and post the setlist!!!! Inquiring minds want to know }:-> Scott ******************************************************************************************* There was an old lady who lived in a shoe; She had so many kids her Uteris fell out - Dice ****************************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 13:40:03 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Scott Cook) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Spice girls WTF!!! / MiniDisc question Message-ID: email_address_removed wrote (between cramps): >What the HELL is this?!?!?! This is a Dream Theater mailing list. Nope, it's the "Lets's see how bad we can piss off Ryan" list ;-) >Yes, I know we all talk about other bands, but their either other prog bands Oh no, not another "What is prog?" Thread! I'd rather talk about Marky Mark and the Funky bunch! >or bands like Metallica! What the F*ck is tise "Spice Girls" CRAP doing >on this list? Go find somewhere else to discuss this and stop wasting >space! ;) About MiniDiscs: I just bought a MiniDisc deck this week and was wondering if anyone can tell me some cheap places to by the blank discs. Either in the SF or L.A. area. Scott ------------------------------ Date: 19 Jun 97 18:17:00 EDT From: Scott Duren To: YTSEJAM Subject: RELEASE DATE?! Message-ID: Does anybody out there know what the release date is for the upcoming DT album? Please respond to my private e-mail - email_address_removed S.D.D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 18:59:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Zebrowski To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2652 Message-ID: > Oh puhLEEEZ. They are anything BUT Jazz musicians. All the Jazz they play, > I believe, is rehearsed. That ain't Jazz, my friend. JP couldn't improvise > over a Jazz progression to save his life. I hate to be the one to break it > to ya, but it's the truth. JP even admits himself that most of the "jams" > they play live have the solos worked out for the most part, and if he > *does* improvise, it's over very simple changes otherwise he just makes a > fool of himself. Well, there is SOME truth in that , but to say that "JP couldn't improvise over a jazz progression to save his life" seems to me to be a bit of an exaggeration. When have you seen him make a fool of himself improvising? <--not meant to be rude--just asking. > Personally I like soloing over the E-F-G-A-Bb-C type of progression. The > scale name escapes me, but it just is sooooo dark and heavy, especially > when detuned 1.5 or 2 steps. This is called E Locrian mode. Difficult to establish a tonality due to the absence of a P5 and because of the 1->b2 relationship. Listen to Metallica's "Wherever I May Roam" for a bit more of this. Steve Z ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 19:33:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: make a fool of himself; Locrian mode Message-ID: On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, Steve Zebrowski wrote: > Well, there is SOME truth in that , but to say > that "JP couldn't improvise over a jazz progression to save his life" > seems to me to be a bit of an exaggeration. Okay, you got me. I was exaggerating a bit. > When have you seen him make a fool of himself improvising? Actually, this is a paraphrase of something JP said in an interview for GFTPM magazine. And I believe he did indeed use the phrase "make a fool of myself." with regard to *true* improvisation. > not meant to be rude--just asking. Thank you for making that clear. Really. :) > > Personally I like soloing over the E-F-G-A-Bb-C type of progression. The > > scale name escapes me, but it just is sooooo dark and heavy, especially > > when detuned 1.5 or 2 steps. > > This is called E Locrian mode. Difficult to establish a tonality due to > the absence of a P5 and because of the 1->b2 relationship. Listen to > Metallica's "Wherever I May Roam" for a bit more of this. ..and "Harvester of Sorrow" perhaps as well? I recall a tune off AJFA following Locrian mode a bit. Which reminds me, for those with a background in sight-singing and/or eartraining, it's important to realize just how easy it is to sing Locrian mode. Most people shy away from the thought of this due to the disorienting intervallic (sp?) relationships among the notes in the mode. I was once called upon in class to sing this mode, and managed to dazzle the rest of the class with a simple trick to sing it (using solfege (sp?) syllables of course) quickly and in tune. Fun fun. Rick Audet Dolby Labs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 19:26:35 -0400 From: "Jim Munster" To: Subject: dt orgasmia Message-ID: Being a member of the jam for only a few months, I haven't been able to fully experience the DT orgasm that will explode when this new album hits the shelves(WHENEVER....) This release is going to be awesome in the eyes of DT jammers everywhere. We have been suffering, waiting, for new material so long that it almost hurts me to think that all this material they are recording right now(hopefully), hasn't been released yet because of corporate bullshit. Does anyone have any new info on a working title of the album?? artwork?? lyrics?? anything proof-positive(yeah right) Anticiption abounding, freakboy "I fell in love to be let down"-Dt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 17:11:40 -0700 (MST) From: email_address_removed To: Ytsejam Mailing List Subject: METAL ON MTV!!! Message-ID: Woo hoo! I saw a smithering of metal on MTV! And it wasn't even in a news archive talking about the Ozzfest.... IT was, of course, the Megadeth:Cryptic Writings ad....heh, I flipped on the station and there was good ol' Mustaine snarlin' at the camera with half of his LONG HAIR covering his face... What a trip... ~Eckie wishes there was a REAL alternative to Money TV ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 17:39:19 -0700 (MST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: METAL ON MTV!!! Message-ID: Excuse me, I meant, with his LONG hair covering HALF his face... ~Eckie the blithering idiot ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:37:31 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: I need your answer or I may not get to go to concert Message-ID: Dear MEGADETH fans, I am hopefully going to see MEGADETH in Boston MA but I had a question about it I need answered. The venue is outdoors it has seats, and a big lawn where people can watch the show. For a strange reason they're not selling tickets for the grass seats, which will cost them thousands of $$. Would they do this because there could be the biggest frigon moshpit on Earth? My parents are not happy about that and I may not get to go!!!!! Please write back. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:49:48 +0000 From: "Steve Lehrfeld" To: email_address_removed Subject: Clockwork CD Message-ID: Hey Jammers- In cases there's anybody on this list who still doesn't have the Clockwork CD "Search", I have them in stock for $8. Anybody who has it can attest to the fact that this is pretty much essential listening. It's a no-brainer for fans of DT, Shadow Gallery, Helloween, etc. Also, we just released "People of the Southwind" - A Tribute to Kansas. It's a similar concept to the DT Tribute that's been kicking around here for years. It contains 60 minutes of bands & collaborations performing some great Kansas tunes. It's on tape and it's only $2 for a VERY limited time. so if you're a fan of classic-prog, get to it! For more info, email me at email_address_removed, or better yet, visit our web-site for info, audio-clips and an order form at the URL listed below. -steve ************************************************** DREG Records homepage: http://www.hutman.com/dreg/ New & Improved Progressive Rock ************************************************** ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2654 **************************