YTSEJAM Digest 2622 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Marillion US Tour Fund (NDTC) by Walter Semerenko 2) Under a glass moon by "Paul Matthews" 3) Faith No More by "Jeremy P. Kube" 4) Did I just see... by email_address_removed 5) wow! by Partha Mukhopadhyay 6) New Megadeath.... Kip Winger by "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" 7) #ytsejam IRC views on the PMU ending thread :) by Jeremy Hyde 8) Re: New Megadeath.... by Rogerio Brito 9) Ozz Fest by "The Evil Midnight Bomber" 10) Long suffering by Deidre Killam 11) PME/PMU/TTT/WTF?!? by "Nicole R. Stachowicz aka Kirby 8>" 12) Damn The Machine by email_address_removed (Brian A Stahl) 13) Voices, LSoaD, IF, Scarred - Queensryche radio - smoking by "D. Ryan Whitaker" 14) Re: Faith No More by Brandon Elhai 15) Re: PHX Music Scene by Sava Web 16) Re: Faith No More by email_address_removed (Scott Cook) 17) KISS On The Moon? (fwd) by email_address_removed (Scott Cook) 18) Warning about ETERNITY-X by "Matthew A. Schnoor" 19) eternity-x by "Andrew Miller" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 20:47:11 +0000 From: Walter Semerenko To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Marillion US Tour Fund (NDTC) Message-ID: At 02:56 PM 6/9/97 -0700, you wrote: >The Afraid of Sunlight North American Tour in 1995 stopped in 16 cities, >yet lost an estimated $30,000, mainly due to poor support and faith from >the various tour promoters. If you were Marillion, would you spend >thousands of your hard earned dollars to tour for $12 per ticket and low >booking fees? The prospects for a Strange Engine Tour appeared bleak. IMHO, that was a bad move on their part. If Marillion wants to get big, then the band has to start playing prog festivals and build up their way up. Peter Renfro has been trying to get Marillion to play ProgDay for the past two years. I don't know why they declined. Maybe they demanded too much money. Walter. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:49:04 +1000 From: "Paul Matthews" To: email_address_removed Subject: Under a glass moon Message-ID: >I ust wanted to ask if anyboby else besides me get chills when the >first chords of Under a Glass Moon play. It's just something about >the anthemic beginnings of that song that really get me going. Just >curious. Yep. Harmonies rule when they are used tastefully. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 22:09:36 -0400 From: "Jeremy P. Kube" To: email_address_removed Subject: Faith No More Message-ID: FNM is a band that I actually liked, hated and now love. I was really into the album "The Real Thing" Songs like "The Morning after" and stuff like that. I bought the follow up "Angel Dust" and was very disappointed. I put both albums in my rack (I'll never trade away or throw away a CD) and never listened to them again until a year ago, when someone mentioned that they were progressive. I listened to the albums again and I was like "Wow! This shit shreds!" and I haven't put then down since. Now that I have a renewed intrest in the band, I have a few questions: 1. Did the old bassist leave after Angel Dust? 2. I heard in a past post that the guitarist had left the band. True? 3. I heard in a past jam that (not that it really matters) one of the members of the band was openly gay? 4. I have the following albums "TRT" "AD" and the self titled one without Mike Patton. Which albums should I get that I don't have? If someone could drop me an e mail I would be very appreciative. J ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 19:22:03 -0700 (MST) From: email_address_removed To: Ytsejam Mailing List Subject: Did I just see... Message-ID: Did I just recieve an email that somebody is SELLING their Savatage: Dead Winter Dead CD? I'll get a rope. You get the guns. ~Eckie gits medieval ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 22:22:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: wow! Message-ID: The Godfather Big Screen Enhanced THX sound I am speechless Partha p.s. Dream Theater roolz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 22:46:14 -0400 From: "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" To: YtseGods Subject: New Megadeath.... Kip Winger Message-ID: Just wanted to tell all you Megadeath fans out there that I heard the first single on 94.1 WYSP in Philly today (sorry didn't hear a name), but I was impressed. I'm not a really big MD fan, but it had a lot of progressive tendancies (especially slow to fast to slow, etc), also Dave Mustane sounded good (not that he has a bad voice, it just sounded good). Thought you guys/gals might want to know. ------------------------ This Conversation Seems Like A Dream I saw the CD at a local shop and decided to pick up, per some conversation on the Jam. Well I was really impressed. It is diverse with some choral and orchastrated bits and it is really mature. In a way it reminds my of Peter Gabriel (in some weird ass way)...but I like it more and more every time I here it. Although it is not as hard and driving as I thought it would have been (ala Pull), I still get into and enjoy to listen to it. That's all for now folks Bruce D. Duesterhoeft PS The Orange and Black will be back in '97-'98 (maybe this time we'll learn to skate!) - It does rhyme anyways! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 22:51:01 -0700 From: Jeremy Hyde To: email_address_removed Subject: #ytsejam IRC views on the PMU ending thread :) Message-ID: Heeeyoooo, If any of you have ever visited irc.dreamt.org #ytsejam, you would know that we all seem to have a twisted sense of humour there. Anyway, I thought a vast majority of the subscribers would like to see this interesting conversation excerpt. :) have you been following that thread? Yummy "What's James say at the end of PMU?" Wow, that's coo. "It's Too Fleshy Solid something." Met Ettersaus Puss sauce "No, it's That This Too Solid Flesh Melts" On the Jam? Uh, haven't actually read one in a while. "No, it's [etc...]" It's Could I have a tuna melt "Oh, that this Chicken Melt Sandwich Plate would, uh, melt" yeah, like every other post. hahaha you two sharing the same drinking fountain again? :) he says, "GRUBGRUBGURBGURBRUBGRUBG gimme a Molson" Nope. Waffle House sells no tuna melts. lol! haha He says "Mornin' guv." hehe I should be logging this :) actually, I am :) LOL!!! We're at loggerheads, then. say hi to the whole list, fellas :) "Hi to the whole list fellers" Hi to the whole list fellas! Oh my, what a pathetic bunch us ytseIRCers are :) For a little more #ytsejam IRC enlightment, I end this post with a quote from Dr. Mosh :) "I thought somebody pinched your butt or something." -Dr. Mosh Jeremy Hyde - email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 00:43:01 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: New Megadeath.... Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Jun 1997, Bruce D. Duesterhoeft wrote: > Just wanted to tell all you Megadeath fans out there that I heard the ===== > first single on 94.1 WYSP in Philly today (sorry didn't hear a name), > but I was impressed. I'm not a really big MD fan, but it had a lot of Yes, we already knew that from the first line of this post (just kiddin', don't take it too seriously...) :-) > progressive tendancies (especially slow to fast to slow, etc), also Dave > Mustane sounded good (not that he has a bad voice, it just sounded > good). Well, all this people talking about how bad James LaBrie sounds live and everyone forgot Dave Mustaine. :-) BTW, I have not heard to this fuc... (ops! that word!) famous single yet. :-) []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - email_address_removed.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 23:16:39 +0000 From: "The Evil Midnight Bomber" To: email_address_removed Subject: Ozz Fest Message-ID: Again, just a quick message to anyone going to the Ozz Fest tomorrow (Tuesday June 10) at Riverport in St. Louis. I'll be the guy there probably wearing the Floyd "Atom Heart Mother" shirt. Let me know if you'll be there. peace out. Dale R. Newberry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 14:59:29 -0700 From: Deidre Killam To: email_address_removed Subject: Long suffering Message-ID: Trust me, I know of long suffering. I grew up in Idaho, no major teams of any sort. We were happy if our football teams followed the directions of our cheerleaders...not the usual.."fight, fight, fight" nope..."cross 'em over, pull the strings, make a double loop!!!!!" DK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 23:31:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nicole R. Stachowicz aka Kirby 8>" To: email_address_removed Subject: PME/PMU/TTT/WTF?!? Message-ID: OK. Look. I've been under a LOT of stress lately (sick bird, upcoming wedding, StRaNgE fiance), so don't expect me to get things right. *YES*, PME is a really rare B-side bootleg from Brian Cox called "Pull Me Every-which-way-but-under." There. I let it slip. Are you happy? (In case you can't tell, I'm joking. :) My apologies to Brian if he's even reading this anymore. Are you coming to the wedding?) Have a great day, and next time, I *PROMISE* I'll proofread my post like a good technical writer. :) -Nicole S./Kirby http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039 I'll finish it eventually! |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Net boy, net girl | Nicole Stachowicz Kirby/KirBee | | Send your heartbeat 'round the world | email_address_removed | | Put your message in a modem | University of Houston-Downtown | | And throw it in the Cyber Sea |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | *** Rush "Virtuality" *** | Visualize Whirled Peas! | '~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 00:37:01 EDT From: email_address_removed (Brian A Stahl) To: email_address_removed Subject: Damn The Machine Message-ID: Anyone know why they disappeared?? The day I bought my first DT album (IAW) the guy behind the desk said, "Dude, its the best album in the store....you also have to try Damn the Machine. I was a Progressive Virgin so i only bought a tape of DTM and a cd of DT. Damn the Machine blew me away. I have been listening to it alot lately and love it even more!!!! Very progressive and very unique. They definately have their own voice. By the time smoke started coming out of the tape.........the album was discontinued and that meant no more cds! I am surprised no one has talked about this band. I recomend EVERY dream theater fan this group. I guess they all broke up...BOO HOOOoooo..... Its all my fault.....I ignored the little card that you are supposed to send to the Rec Co. to tell them if you liked the album. If anyone has any info about this great band let me know, please. PLEASE GOD LET DT OPEN FOR QR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW PLAYING ==========> Miles Davis---Someday my prince will come Trane's the shit!! Ed your ugly -sinkdraiN "How sublime a thing it is to suffer and be strong" *Enchant ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 23:50:01 +0000 From: "D. Ryan Whitaker" To: email_address_removed Subject: Voices, LSoaD, IF, Scarred - Queensryche radio - smoking Message-ID: Those four songs are my four favorite songs of all time. [Queensryche] I thought I missed the radio broadcast, but I guess I caught a rerun last night near midnight. I taped all of it sans all the interviews and talking, and sadly it doesn't even fill up one side of the tape. But the quality of the recording rocks my billies. It's sad to hear Geoff struggle with those high notes so freaking much, and even more disappointing to hear him cop out of those climactic points which really need the high notes. All in all, it was a good little concert though.. Will trade it for Fix for '96. I have a very good tape deck.. [Fix for '96] I really want a tape of one of these shows. I'm willing to trade dubs of what little I have, which are: Subconscious (source CD) Acoustic Dreams (source CD) When Dream and Today Unite (source CD) Antiquities (source CD) Scenes from a Memory (source CD) Precious Things (source CD) The Darkest of Winters (source CD) Mind Control (source CD x 2) Home for the Holidays - Birch Hill 12/29/95 (source tape x 2) (also includes part of a Mike Portnoy clinic) Queensryche radio broadcast (source tape) [Smoking] I'm glad Portnoy's not the singer, otherwise Dream Theater would be going down the drain like Queensryche is. Smoking and singing don't mix well.. I'd imagine that that Hear in the Now Frontier will be QR's last album, or they're going to have to figure out some way to make the songs even lower pitched for Tate. I'd give him another year or so at even attempting doing Empire or O:M songs at concerts anymore.. latah D. Ryan Whitaker http://www.baylor.edu/~David_Whitaker email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 01:09:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Brandon Elhai To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Faith No More Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Jun 1997, Jeremy P. Kube wrote: > disappointed. I put both albums in my rack (I'll never trade away or > throw away a CD) and never listened to them again until a year ago, > when someone mentioned that they were progressive. I listened to the > albums again and I was like "Wow! This shit shreds!" and I haven't put > then down since. I hear the Spice Girls are progressive. Maybe you should check them out too. Brandon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 00:49:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Sava Web To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: PHX Music Scene Message-ID: > twice in one week. Friedman's gonna be so close I can like hi-5 the dude > while he's playin' ;) Phoenix metal rocks. I mean, there's Megadeth, > Sacred Reich (every thursday at the Mason Jar :))) ), F&J, Sepultura > (relocated from Brazil), Jason Newsted, George Lynch, Gary Hoey (lives in > Lake Havasu City, AZ), Alice Cooper, hmm, I know there are more, but I > can't think of any more off hand. You forgot Rob Halford ;-) Tony MacAlpine practially lives here... He does shows every month or so at the Mason Jar. He lives in the L.A. area but regularly makes the trek out here. Nate -------------------------------------------------------------------------- email_address_removed Savatage Fan Web Pages Trans-Siberian Orchestra Web Pages www.savatage.com www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 01:51:46 EDT From: email_address_removed (Scott Cook) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Faith No More Message-ID: >2. I heard in a past post that the guitarist had left the band. True? Yes Jim Martin left the band to form his own band called Bohemouth. They opened for Metallica when they did a fan club only show in SF last year. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 01:51:46 EDT From: email_address_removed (Scott Cook) To: email_address_removed Subject: KISS On The Moon? (fwd) Message-ID: The merchandising whores known as KI$$ --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- Subject: kissalive] KISS On The Moon? (fwd) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 20:39:13 -0400 (EDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 20:58:21 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: The kissalive mailing list To: email_address_removed, email_address_removed Subject: kissalive] KISS On The Moon? I found this on a fax we get at the station from the Spin Radio Network. It's from the June 2, 1997, SPINFAX ROCK: KISS On The Moon? In addition to the action figures, coffee-table book, Muzak, $600 biker jackets, golf clubs and mini-blinds, KISS has reportedly now set its sights on the moon. The Remasked Ones apparently got the idea from spaceman guitarist Ace Frehley, and have been nosing around the aerospace industry a bit, asking how they might become the first rock band to ever play a gig on the moon. Sheesh...guess Gene Simmons is more eager for notoriety than he is afraid of heights. Wait'll he finds out that NASA won't allow groupies on a spaceship. Discuss... For list service help, send a message to email_address_removed with a subject of HELP. --------- End forwarded message ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 00:41:11 -0700 From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" To: "_YTSEJAM_" Subject: Warning about ETERNITY-X Message-ID: Hey, everyone. I don't post often, but I thought this bore enough importance to bring it to everyone's attention. Recently, some events have happened regarding the prog band known as "Eternity-X" and a fellow jammer, Andrew "Subtlerage" Miller. I urge you to read the following webpages and see if you reach the same conclusions I did, and if you can see the truth behind the spokesperson for this band. First, go to their homepage at http://www.eternity-x.com . Then, check out their online survey form at http://www.eternity-x.com/survey.html and see if you think it's a TAD bit biased or misguided, and possibly egocentric. Finally, to see some very, very interesting correspondence between Andy and Keith Sudano (the band's apparent spokesperson), go to http://www.subtlerage.com/eternity-x/ . The reason I can't get into too much detail is that the webpages put it so well, you have to read them yourselves. Be warned... if you send some intelligently-phrased mail to Eternity-X in response to their survey form, you might get just the opposite as a response. Take care when dealing with this person. Never before have I seen such an egomaniac in a progressive band. :( Thanks for your time! [ Matthew A. Schnoor ] "To rise, to fall [ mail: email_address_removed ] To hurt, to hate [ mail: email_address_removed ] To want, to wait [ http://www.SpiritOne.com/~schnoor ] To heal, to save" [ IRC: email_address_removed:2112 ] - Dream Theater, "Scarred" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 03:00:02 +0000 From: "Andrew Miller" To: email_address_removed Subject: eternity-x Message-ID: hey everyone- for starters, let me make it clear that i'm NOT on the jam at the moment, so if you want to respond to any part of this message and have it reach me, you need to mail me directly at email_address_removed. anyway, i finally surfed to eternity-x's website. i follow the "free sampler" link. i view the survey you must fill out in order to recieve a free sampler. in my opinion, their survey is very biased, and makes remarks to (c)rap music which, again imo, isn't cool. especially for a profressional band. so i email them a nice letter, (and i do mean nice- it wasn't a flame in anyway), and a series of emails begins with a member of the band. what happens after that surprised the hell out of me, as i found myself flamed and belittled and basically insulted to no end, simply for stating a dissenting opinion of their views of music. i also want to make it clear that i complimented them on their playing abilities and songwriting abilities... so how they took all this personally is beyond me. anyway, the fellow i was in contact with, Keith, felt the need to insult everything about me, including my website, my music, my very existence. it was rather harsh. before you support this band, i ask you to check out : http://www.subtlerage.com/eternity-x i've posted, in their entirety, all of the letters i've sent to and recieved from eternity-x, as of 3:00am, june 10th, central U.S. time. i'm not suggesting that people NOT listen to these guys, as their music seems to be something that alot of people here may enjoy (prog-metal), but you should at least see what they're like as people. or at least this one, guy, as i've no idea if the entire band shares his opinions. i certainly hope they don't. later. Andrew Andrew Miller - keyboardist/vocalist - subtlerage http://www.subtlerage.com - email_address_removed "first impressions" released. .wav files available ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2622 **************************