YTSEJAM Digest 2616 Today's Topics: 1) OZ by "Donald Dintaman" 2) Re: WDADU transcriptions by email_address_removed.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara) 3) ACoS transcription by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." 4) Wanted: QR Radio show last night by Nick Bogovich 5) Re: Gentle Giant/Rippingtons by Jon Parmet 6) Rush Sunday by "The Evil Midnight Bomber" 7) Re: DT transcriptions by "Cassiano P. Barbosa" 8) Re: DT Transcriptions by James Mohr 9) Multi-Purpose Post (First Fates, Cool CD's) by email_address_removed 10) Pink Floyd and Oz (NDTC) by "Somebody" 11) Edward Polzin by Davidjon Sabetai 12) Freakin buggin me. by "KorgX3" 13) King's X setlist and new update by durnik 14) irock by email_address_removed (Ernesto Schnack) 15) A spoonful of DT helps the wait go down by email_address_removed 16) Flotsam and Thrashsam, Megathrash, G3 by "Vincent G. LuPone" 17) SYMPHONY-X and FATES CLIPS by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 06 Jun 97 10:52:07 -0500 From: "Donald Dintaman" To: "email_address_removed" (Return requested) (Receipt notification requested) Subject: OZ Would someone be kind enough to email me a list all the similarities between OZ and Dark Side...? I was trying to tell a guy at work about this but couldn't remember the exact instances. Thanks, Don ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 01:15:48 +0900 From: email_address_removed.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: WDADU transcriptions Message-ID: Well,well,well. DT songbooks are available in Japan. (I&W,L@tM,Awake,ACOS) Thosse books are published from Shinko-Music. Thanks. At 21:02 1997.6.5 -0700, Cassiano P. Barbosa wrote: >>>One more thing: Does anyone have knowledge of transcriptions of "The >>Killing Hand"? >>>For all I know there's no notebook for the WDADU record. >>> >> That's right, there isn't one, unfortunatly. However, I have >>transcribed >>this song, along with working on transcribing the whole disc. Great song to >>jam to, btw. > >Actually, from what I know, there are transcription books for all DT albums >(except for ACoS, which I don't know about) that were published some time >ago in Japan by some company called Shinko Music. > >They have complete scores for guitar, bass, vocals, drums and keys. >Something I don't know is about the availability of those books, since I >bought the I&W and Awake books about two years ago (any japanese jammer >knows about this?). Don't expect any super-accurate transcriptions, good >cover art or LtL ( noo!:) ), though. > > >Cassiano Barbosa >email_address_removed.br ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- -Keiji Nishihara 　Doshisha Uni. Electric/Electronic Material Lab. Semiconductor ARRAY KYOTO JAPAN email_address_removed.ne.jp email_address_removed.ac.jp ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 12:09:44 -0500 From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." To: email_address_removed Subject: ACoS transcription Message-ID: > >Actually, from what I know, there are transcription books for all DT albums > >(except for ACoS, which I don't know about) that were published some time > >ago in Japan by some company called Shinko Music. > > > BTW...ACOS has not been published, although I have almost finished doing it. Actually, Shinko did publish the full score transcription to the ACoS album, but they left out the big medley, for copyright reasons, I suppose, but if that was the case, why did they include the first three live tracks? Who knows? Mark Peters email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 13:40:14 -0400 From: Nick Bogovich To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Wanted: QR Radio show last night Message-ID: I hate radio stations. I'm out here in Boston, and I found out that the radio station that will be carrying the broadcast will not be airing it until next week. I leave Boston for Chicago next week. Chicago, I believe, has already aired the concert. Talk about timing. On top of that, I figured that I could at least get a listen to the show via KISW's RealAudio broadcast. Turns out that their set up was messed up and there was this really annoying buzz which made the broadcast unlistenable. So, I would like to get a copy of this show. I know Scott Cook said that he would be up for trading if he got the show on tape, so if Scott or any other Jammers out there happened to get an excellent recording of the concert, I would be interested in trading for or buying a copy of the concert so that I may be able to put it on CDR media for me and others who may be interested in it. Please notify me at email_address_removed (email_address_removed is my work address) and hopefully we can set something up. Thanks. Ryche on, Nick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 17:43:03 +0000 From: Jon Parmet To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Gentle Giant/Rippingtons Message-ID: > From: WhiteWolf > when was "Free Hand" released? (Year will suffice). Uh, 1975 :) > From: Rick Audet > I wouldn't consider it to be fusion, though. It is contemporary Jazz > with a lot of kick. They can kick me all day :) I always though the stuff like the title track and Nature of the Beast were considered crossover. They could call it RAP, and I'd still listen to it :) > A couple of other great Rippingtons releases are "Weekend in Monaco", > and "Welcome to the St. James' Club". Thanks for the recommendations, Rick!! Save me some time and money figuring out which ones to pick up. I just took a shot not knowing which one to pick up, but I've heard 'em on the radio for a few years and they always grooved. I'll be getting those extremely soon :) Have a great weekend everyone! Jon *------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | email_address_removed | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------* I believe that what I'm feeling Changes how the world appears - Rush ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 14:28:53 +0000 From: "The Evil Midnight Bomber" To: email_address_removed Subject: Rush Sunday Message-ID: Hey, if anyone's gonna be at the Rush show at Riverport Amphitheater this Sunday, let me know and maybe we can hook up. I'll likely be wearing my jam shirt, so I should be easily noticeable. Same goes for Ozz Fest next Tuesday at Riverport (though I probably won't be wearing my jam shirt there). Dale R. Newberry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 16:26:36 -0300 From: "Cassiano P. Barbosa" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT transcriptions Message-ID: >>Actually, from what I know, there are transcription books for all DT albums >>(except for ACoS, which I don't know about) that were published some time >>ago in Japan by some company called Shinko Music. >> >>They have complete scores for guitar, bass, vocals, drums and keys. Something I don't know is about the availability of those books, since I bought the I&W and Awake books about two years ago (any japanese jammer knows about this?). Don't expect any super-accurate transcriptions, good cover art or LtL ( noo!:) ), though. > Warner Bros. still has I&W and Awake, the only 2 they've done, in print, >although >somewhat difficult to get. Any reputable sheet music dealer should be able >to get both of these. >I ordered these together and waited 8 months for them. Apparantly, they ran >out of the last batch >and were printing another run. If this Japanese company printed ANYTHING by >DT, it's long >out-of-print and definitely not available domestically. Both are quite >accurate, save for the >occasional misspelled vocals. (IE...PMU - Every day sends future to post). >I'll leave others later. >BTW...ACOS has not been published, although I have almost finished doing it. I have the I&W and Awake books from both Shinko Music and Warner Bros., so I must say that the WB ones are DEFINITELY more accurate. As for these japanese books being out-of-print, that's why I mentioned japanese jammers because, like I said, I bought them for like 2 years ago. And as for they being available domestically (in U.S.) I really don't know, because I live in Brazil and ordered them from a japanese import book store (I waited 6 months to get it). Anyone looking for drum transcriptions should check those out (in import book stores, maybe?), as they're the only books that really transcribed whole band scores for the 3 LPs (I&W, Awake and WDADU). And maybe for ACOS, who knows? Later! Cassiano email_address_removed.br ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 16:02:55 -0500 From: James Mohr To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT Transcriptions Message-ID: >Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 02:22:40 -0600 >From: WhiteWolf >To: email_address_removed >Subject: Re: DT Transcriptions >Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970606022240.0068a924@autobahn.mb.ca> > Warner Bros. still has I&W and Awake, the only 2 they've done, in print, >although >somewhat difficult to get. Any reputable sheet music dealer should be able >to get both of these. I tried to special order I&W about a year ago, but it was out of print. I did get one, from a person with connections. Awake was no problem to find. --James ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 17:45:46 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Multi-Purpose Post (First Fates, Cool CD's) Message-ID: Hello Jammer-dudez and dudettes - This is in response to the Jammer asking about where to start with Fates Warning. Several jams back, I posted that one should start with "Chasing Time", IMO. Back then, I posted a big long explanation as to why. I can't remember (or feel like retyping) everything I said, so I'll try to summarize. Fates has changed their style fairly radically over the years, and "Chasing Time" is a good compilation of old and new stuff. It's also not just a "Greatest Hits" either; it's got their biggest "hits" along with a good collection of "sleeper" favorites. Also, I think that the disc does a decent job of capturing the general sound of a particular album or era. In conclusion, ALL CD's are required listening and are MUST-OWN's, but starting with "Chasing Time" can help you prioritize. 'Kay? Now then, I've head the opportunity to get some great new CD's over the past few days. Included in this is the new Flotsam ("High") and the new Bruce Dickinson ("Accident Of Birth"). A while ago, someone hit the nail on the head with a Flots review saying that it was heavier than their more recent material, but although it's very good, not as good as "Cuatro" or "Drift". As for Mr. Dickinson... HOLY SHIT!!!! This album knocked me on my arse! I liked "Balls To Picasso" quite a bit, and didn't really care for "Skunkworks" that much, so when I heard that this was his "BEST STUFF SINCE MAIDEN", I took it with a grain of salt. But, after one listen, I must agree with this assessment. Adrian Smith backs him up with some killer guitar playing on this one. And, surprisingly, it's HEAVY as shit! I love this one - highly recommended!!! 'Nuff for now, kidz. Laterz.... Matt T. Now Playing: B. Dickinson "Accident Of Birth" (Of course!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:41:38 -0500 From: "Somebody" To: email_address_removed Subject: Pink Floyd and Oz (NDTC) Message-ID: <19970606223904.AAA172@jballa> About a week ago, there was a message posted about the correlation between the Dark Side of the Moon and The Wizard of Oz. The Daily News article that I read about this can be found at: http://www.chelmsford.com/home/aharm/dailynews.html I find it interesting, but I would think by now it would be verified. Anyway, enjoy if you are interested. "If you want to live life on your own terms, you've got to be willing to crash and burn." mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 23:39:56 +0000 From: Davidjon Sabetai To: email_address_removed Subject: Edward Polzin Message-ID: <19970606233955.AAA27407@LOCALNAME> Ed, You'll have your DT video soon. Sorry for the added wait, but I sent it to your college address by accident. I just got the package back today and I'm going tomorrow morning to mail it again to the return address on your package. Isaac ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 19:07:17 +0000 From: "KorgX3" To: email_address_removed Subject: Freakin buggin me. Message-ID: Hey, folx, you up for a challenge? I've got some visual music for ya. This is a song I hear on the contemporary station quite a bit and I really dig the song. It pretty "groovy." Anyway, I know not the number to call the DJ and ask the name of the song and I wanna find out who it is. The song I'd say was written in the late 70s/early 80s and starts out with a sax part that goes something like... (^=hammer on) (/ = Bend) (\ = release) This is from memory so it may not be precise... G G F# F# F# F# E D E^F#^E E D B B A/B \A/B\A\B \A/B G# And then it repeats. I never catch the words, but it's a groovy song. I remember a part that goes something like "Sad song.... Keep holding on..." Someone at work said they thought it was a movie theme and was "(Something) Street)" If someone let me know who the artist and the name of the song gets a Twinkie. This has been buging me for days, since this is the first song I EVER remember hearing and it brings back kewl memories. :) Thanks! I know someone knows this! KorgX3 a.k.a. Pastor of Muppets email_address_removed "Yay, yay, ormschperdinki du! Yay bork schperduggin dieder, Bork, Bork Bork!" ---Some Swede Muppet ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 21:30:00 -0700 (MST) From: durnik To: email_address_removed Subject: King's X setlist and new update Message-ID: A new update is up on the page at http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik. Virtual Songs ships, as of tomorrow (basically). The liners are in. I didn't get my orders of jewelcases yet, so I went down to Costco and bought some to tide me over and at least get shit started. They weren't quite as cheap, but hey... I wanna see reviews _now_. :) King's X "Acoustic Spirits" master preparation is underway. Due to the idiosyncrasies of hard drive space, KX will ship in roughly mid July, followed by E2E in early August. While preparing the master I found that I have a lot more than this to offer... see the update for details. Here's the likely preliminary tracklisting. (acoustic soundboard performance) Shot of Love It's Love Summerland Everybody Knows a Little Bit of Something Goldilox Over My Head The Difference (In The Garden of St. Anne's on the Hill) I'll Never Get Tired Of You (Mike & Melissa's wedding song!) We Are Finding Who We Are The Difference (alternate/extra acoustic performance) [Ear Candy bonus tracks, to be determined] This single CD is already open to orders. Domestic orders just send the order along, international customers please feel free to reserve first and then send the order along. Print run will be 100 to 150 discs. This one's gonna be _good_. :) Oh yes, all the DT collectibles I had for sale are GONE. Gondo. History. That was fast. Uncovered sold in three minutes. That's gotta be some kind of record. The instructional videos are already en route to their future owners, and the others are to follow shortly. More PT and DW discs go out this weekend. - Mike Bahr - email_address_removed - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 00:16:46 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Ernesto Schnack) To: Subject: irock Message-ID: <19970607041437.AAA6677@ernst-d> So, after a little web-browsing, I find this station called irock which supposedly broadcasts intrsumental and prog rock thru the web.... but when I get there, there's somethings written in what seems to be latin, and a line saying "Danger-web-wacking in progress. a lot of bugs" huh? SPOON! Ernie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 23:13:43 -0700 (MST) From: email_address_removed To: Ytsejam Mailing List Subject: A spoonful of DT helps the wait go down Message-ID: Heya all... Heh...I get to see Megadeth...TWICE this week... >:D Sorry, had to rub that in. ANYWAYS, I was perusin' through the mags at my local grocery store, and the new (?) August edition of Metal Edge was about the only thing with the word "Metal" written on it. BTW, why do they release an August issue two months before August? Back to story: It had Marilyn Manson on the cover, and I'm really not the biggest fan of his music or for anything he stands for (except that free speech thingy), but I flipped through it anyh00. The first page I happened to open the mag up to had photos of a Metallica party with those guys from Anthrax and COC and this skanky belly-dancer. It was nice to see the Anthrax crew in some new photos, I thought some music exec might have sent a covert op. team to assassinate another thrash band that hit it big in the 80s....but the kicker was near the end of the mag. Here it is... ..a BLACK AND WHITE PHOTO OF MIKE PORTNOY with Eric Singer. He, being Portnoy, had a quoted answer to the question, "What's the best and worst movie you ever saw?" "Best: Pink Floyd The Wall, This is Spinal Tap, and anything by Woody Allen, Stanley Kubrick, David Lynch, Martin Scorsese and Alfred Hitchcock. Worst: seven out of 10 Hollywood films. I'm a big indie film fan." And for you 'Thrax fans out there, the new album's entitled Volume 8 and due out October. Of course, you prolly already knew that tidbit. ;) For some odd reason, Silverchair's name kept popping up around this mag? WTF? They're about as metal as Sherinian is gay!!! They DON'T belong in a metal mag! But that's just my opinion. :) Don't start a "what is metal to one person..." thread, just don't...PLEASE! The new Flotsam and Jetsam kicks ass. I bought A Pleasant Shade of Gray (I'm gonna pay you back as soon as I get my paycheck Vince, don't worry! I still have to land a job!) and I haven't really given it a thorough listen to it yet, but it seems like this reallllllly sombre song with lulled tones, and rare moments of spontinaity and excitement here and there. I'll listen to the whole thing tonight 'n then slap my approval/disproval on it. :) HOly shit! You can tell I don't subscribe to any magazines. On the back of this Metal Edge is this KICK ASS full page ad for Pearl drums...with NICK MENZA!!! WOO!!! That's a keeper... Is there a telnet address for any dt fan servers? I know 'bout the IRC, but I'm sorta "without provider" at the moment, if ya know what I mean. (My school only provides email and telnet for free). 'kay, I'm done. ~Eckie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 00:14:57 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" To: email_address_removed Subject: Flotsam and Thrashsam, Megathrash, G3 Message-ID: Bought the new Flotsam CD today. WOW!! This sucker rocks so hard. Man, to me this CD sounds like a cross between Sacred Reich on "Independent", Metallica's "Master of Puppets", and Pantera's "Cowboy's from Hell". There are some neat production things like the twin acoustics in the far channels on one of the earlier tracks, and the heavy sound is very dense. The funniest part of the whole thing is that the names of the songs on the back are written in fonts of other metal band logos. ;) For example, "Final Step" is written in Iron Maiden font, "High-Noon" looks like the Misfits, "Your Hands" looks like Van Halen, "Hallucinational" is in slayer font, song 11 is just a symbol of a fork-man running (weird drawing :), but the one that takes the cake is the font for "Monster". Yup, /MetallicA\ font. ;)~ Overall, this is a great thrasher CD, and it makes me feel proud for the Phoenix metal scene, which spawned F&J. Speaking of Phoenix metal, I bought my tickets for the "Vic and the Rattleheads" show at the Electric Ball(sack)room next Tuesday!! Megadeth twice in one week. Friedman's gonna be so close I can like hi-5 the dude while he's playin' ;) Phoenix metal rocks. I mean, there's Megadeth, Sacred Reich (every thursday at the Mason Jar :))) ), F&J, Sepultura (relocated from Brazil), Jason Newsted, George Lynch, Gary Hoey (lives in Lake Havasu City, AZ), Alice Cooper, hmm, I know there are more, but I can't think of any more off hand. Oh yeah, bought the new G3 live video today too. GET IT!!! If you're not into the Satch/Vai/Johnson type of stuff, at least buy it as an instructional tape :) Jam on, jammerz, Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/6933 | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 03:52:21 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: SYMPHONY-X and FATES CLIPS Message-ID: You want it???? You got it!!!!! MPEG 3 ONLY!!!!! :) Symphony-X and Fates Warning from APSoG MPEG 3's.... full length goodies!!! While you're there, if you haven't checked out the Angra MPEG 3's, check them out.... URL Below: click on the Ear Candy section to go to the sound clips page... -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: email_address_removed #$%#$#$% *$%&%#$* Global Micro Solutions #$#$#@@# *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ #$@#$#@# http://www.gmsnet.com/progmetal @#$@##@$ ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2616 **************************