YTSEJAM Digest 2615 Today's Topics: 1) Iron Maiden (NDTC) by email_address_removed.ch 2) community service reminders? by email_address_removed (Bruce Forst) 3) Re: Sava songs/Counterpoint by WhiteWolf 4) Re: DT Transcriptions by WhiteWolf 5) LISTENING TO RAY ALDER IS PAINFUL???? by "Michael Kohsiek" 6) RE: Sava songs/Counterpoint by "Trevor W. Hoit" 7) QR on the Radio by "Graham Boyle" 8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2613 by "Raivo Hool" 9) big anniversary by Pat Daugherty 10) Triumph by Tim Adams 11) Like cream, DTC will always rise to top :) by Jon Parmet 12) G3, etc.... by Albert Balkiewicz 13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2613 by email_address_removed 14) FAQ: release info (JAPAN) by email_address_removed.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara) 15) Re: Rippingtons by AAD 16) Dokken Live on INTERNET by email_address_removed.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 08:33:08 +0200 From: email_address_removed.ch To: email_address_removed Subject: Iron Maiden (NDTC) Message-ID: Hiya, Can anyone here help me out with where Eddie's Bar is in Portugal ? I'll be going there for summer holidays and would like to stop at the bar if it's on my way. Private mail preferred. Thanks in advance, doods. ________________________________ "I had so much time on my hands then suddenly, it washed away" --------------------------------------------- "These are my wings to fly These are the winds to sail So let as time goes by Mind over matter prevail" ________________________________ D A V E K I N G b a s s & h a r m o n y M T 2 0 p r o g r e s s i v e m e t a l http://websites.maxess.ch/mt20 IRC : DaveKing ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 02:08:00 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Bruce Forst) To: email_address_removed Subject: community service reminders? Message-ID: >This pointless post brought to you by: > >Joe >email_address_removed I hope this is a free service?? or do I have to afix that shiny sticker over the "Instant Winner" spot first? bruce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 02:23:44 -0600 From: WhiteWolf To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Sava songs/Counterpoint Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970606022344.0068cf28@autobahn.mb.ca> >Huh? I can't think of any Savatage songs that are realllllly long. Please help clarify this. Well, for starters - on average, Savatage's songs run 5:00-5:30 minutes, about 1-2 minutes longer than most metal songs. Not exceptionally long, but they have longer songs over and above these. Here's most of them: When The Crowds Are Gone (5:47), Gutter Ballet (6:21), Hounds (6:11) Hall Of The Mountain King (5:55), Streets (6:48), Tonight He Grins Again/Strange Reality (8:02), Agony & Ecstacy/Heal My Soul (6:11), Somewhere In Time/Believe (9:02), Chance (7:49), Alone You Breathe (7:29) Sure, they have short songs. For example, every song except one on Fight For The Rock is under 4 mins. It all depends...what era was Savatage in when you started liking them? And another thing: >"Free Hand" (considered to have some of the more accesible tunes. >contains a song with 5-part a capella madness, and a sample of the first > Otay, I was under the impression that Savatage was the first band to use 5-part counterpoint in rock. Paul O'Neill said in an interview following the Handful Of Rain sessions that the song Chance marked the first use of a 5-part counterpoint, as far as he knew. Just for clarification purposes...and bragging rights for fans of the 'Tage < :-) >, when was "Free Hand" released? (Year will suffice). L8r ========================================== Madness reigns in the Hall of the Mountain King ========================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 02:22:40 -0600 From: WhiteWolf To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT Transcriptions Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970606022240.0068a924@autobahn.mb.ca> >Actually, from what I know, there are transcription books for all DT albums >(except for ACoS, which I don't know about) that were published some time >ago in Japan by some company called Shinko Music. > Warner Bros. still has I&W and Awake, the only 2 they've done, in print, although somewhat difficult to get. Any reputable sheet music dealer should be able to get both of these. I ordered these together and waited 8 months for them. Apparantly, they ran out of the last batch and were printing another run. If this Japanese company printed ANYTHING by DT, it's long out-of-print and definitely not available domestically. Both are quite accurate, save for the occasional misspelled vocals. (IE...PMU - Every day sends future to post). I'll leave others later. BTW...ACOS has not been published, although I have almost finished doing it. ========================================== Madness reigns in the Hall of the Mountain King ========================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 09:37:20 100 From: "Michael Kohsiek" To: email_address_removed Subject: LISTENING TO RAY ALDER IS PAINFUL???? Message-ID: Hi again! Hey! Someone on the YtseJam Number five-million (or so) said: "Listening to Ray Alder is painful!" All I have to say to him is: "Are you deaf??" Michael *************************************************** * "So where do we begin * * and what else can we say? * * When the lines are all drawn * * What should we do today?" * * * * "A Pleasant Shade * * Of Gray" - Fates Warning * * * * * * Michael Kohsiek * * Blumenesch 8a Siegerlandstr.15 * * 49078 Osnabrueck 48527 Nordhorn * * Tel.: 0541/43771 05921/722272 * * Germany * * * ***** "still writing letters in my head..." ****** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 00:42:09 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: RE: Sava songs/Counterpoint Message-ID: >And another thing: >>"Free Hand" (considered to have some of the more accesible tunes. >>contains a song with 5-part a capella madness, and a sample of the first > Otay, I was under the impression that Savatage was the first band to use >5-part counterpoint in rock. Paul O'Neill said in an interview following the >Handful Of Rain >sessions that the song Chance marked the first use of a 5-part >counterpoint, as far as he knew. Just for clarification purposes...and >bragging rights for fans of the 'Tage < :-) >, when was "Free Hand" >released? (Year will suffice). I think about the time the 'Tage was in high school! > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 18:00:35 +1000 From: "Graham Boyle" To: Subject: QR on the Radio Message-ID: Any kind jammer in the US who taped the QR radio broadcast who is willing to trade can you please drop me an e-mail. thank you Graham Boyle Sydney, Australia email_address_removed.au 'The world is full of Kings & Queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams' 'Heaven & Hell' BLACK SABBATH 1980 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 15:14:26 +0200 From: "Raivo Hool" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2613 Message-ID: > completely. Do us all a favor and stop posting crap. This is the most stupid > thing I've read since that guy saying Lars Ulrich is technically better than ..and that was one of the most opinionated posts I've read since that rambling about A Pleasant Shade Of Grey. Besides, Lars was right too. Do not click here to continue. Raitz Be reasonable -- demand the impossible! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 09:09:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty To: Dream Theater Mailing List Subject: big anniversary Message-ID: joe kruger wrote: >of the date that Al B. promised Pat D. his tapes is tomorrow. > >Saw this scanning thru my old jams looking for something. > >This pointless post brought to you by: nope, I think it has been like 3 1/2 years and he has been promising "tomorrow" for those 3 1/2 years... Do I ever expect to get anything from the Ytsejam's most notorious bad trader? nope... I know everyone on the jam hates to hear this crap, but if jammers keep bringing it up then I will reply... |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty email_address_removed | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 09:47:09 -0400 From: Tim Adams To: email_address_removed Subject: Triumph Message-ID: Hey all, Anyone heard from the guys from Triumph lately??? Any solo projects going on?? It's been a long time since I've heard from them. Mr. Rick had a CD a while ago that I remember but nothing since. Any help would be appreciated. -Tim (soon to be the first guy on the moon without a space craft) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 14:10:06 +0000 From: Jon Parmet To: email_address_removed Subject: Like cream, DTC will always rise to top :) Message-ID: > From: Dave Hatlee > SPECIAL THANKS go out to jammer Jon Parmet for finding the Rick > Deringer CD for me. I was in the neighborhood :) I'll tell ya, though, it's tough not ripping the protective sheathing off and throwing it in just for R&R, Hoochie Koo! Besides, if I hadn't stopped by, I would never have seen the New Release announcement that no one on here believes :) >From: Scott Cook >> From: Jeremey Kube >>I was psyched that a super chain store would have so much prog. music. > The guy who stocks the cd dept. must be a prog/Metal fan. I wonder if the mystery clerk is on the Jam? I'll be checking out the self-serve gas stations to see if any gems have snuck in there. > Not *everyone* here thinks your prejudiced or of Beaver Cleaver > mentallity. Here, here! Anyway, he said Beaver, uh huh huh :) > From: Brian > Would someone recommend a Chick Corea album that I would like? If you're into the more progressive fusion realm of jazz, pick up just about anything he's done with Return To Foverer. I'd personally go for the stuff with Al DiMeola, Stanley Clarke and Bill Cobham on it, just because that such a powerful collection of musicians. He also has some older stuff before RTF which is a little more on the traditional side of jazz. I have "Before Forever" which is circa late 60's(?) It's still all great stuff, though. The guy transcends the instrument! Speaking of jazz and fusion, I just have to recommend - with every ounce of my soul -a CD I picked up yesterday. Russ Freeman & The Rippingtons' Curves Ahead (1991) on GRP Records. I've noticed a lot of excellent music coming out on GRP. This is one of 'em :) For those of you into crossover, this shit it the > From: Pat Sullivan > Tell me, did they also spell the band's name right on the plastic > insert card? That would truly be moe that I could hope to expect. :) To tell you the truth, I didn't notice, I was too busy running to choke the clerk for playing with my emotions like that :):) Until I saw it in the booklet with Warners' name beside it! > From: Don > I heard so many different stories about the new album which is why I > barely get involved in the "when-the-hell-is-DT-releasing-their-album" > threads. There was no hell in my post, only heaven :) I could be wrong since I'm not as attuned to the record store business as others on here (perhaps someone can enlighten), but I personally find it hard to believe that a larger chain like Strawberries would be involved in a campaign of disinformation. > Hope it does come in July though............. Waiting for time to disappear :) *------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | email_address_removed | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------* "What a mother-fucker absolute stonking boner-inducing piece of music!" - Neil Gallop ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 10:13:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Balkiewicz To: email_address_removed Subject: G3, etc.... Message-ID: Went to the infamous Tunes in Hoboken once again yesterday to pick up the new Faith No More -- unfortunately, they were sold out, which kinda surprised me. So anyway, perusing through the El Cheapo bin once again and the rest of their stuff, I wound up buying 5 CDs anyway. This one is worth mentioning here.... The CD: G3 - Live in Concert The Tracklist: Satriani 1. Cool No 9 2. Flying in a Blue Dream 3. Summer Song E. Johnson 4. Zap 5. Manhattan 6. Camel's Night Out Vai 7. Answers 8. For the Love of God 9. The Attitude Song All three 10. Going Down 11. My Guitar Wants to Kill your Mama 12. Red House It was recorded over a span of 4 days (10/30/96-11/2/96), and it very cool (listening to it now)...... I didn't hear anyone mention it, so I figured maybe some people (like me) didn't even know about it. And the kicker is - I got it for 9.99!!!!!!!! I love Tunes! Anyway, the new album is very unlikely to be the one released in July, if there even is one going to be released. I'm thinking more along the lines of some type of live EP, a la LaTM, dealing with either the Home for the Holidays Stuff or Ronnie Scott's.... -Al -- ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ I inhale the sun...........I exhale the absence of light I am the number One..........burning. ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ email: email_address_removed email_address_removed HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 10:27:12 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2613 Message-ID: I ust wanted to ask if anyboby else besides me get chills when the first chords of Under a Glass Moon play. It's just something about the anthemic beginnings of that song that really get me going. Just curious. email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 00:41:53 +0900 From: email_address_removed.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara) To: email_address_removed Subject: FAQ: release info (JAPAN) Message-ID: Well, I got tons of message about Japan-only CDs. So I deceided to tell you about almost complete releases in Japan every month from now. I hope this message will help you for sellecting from US/Euro/Jpn releases. Here we go.... (this list was taken from Burrn! mag.) title/band/rec.co./date/track No. Destination Anywhere/Jon Bon Jovi/Mercury M.E./Out Now/14 Generation Swine/motley Crue/east west Jpn/Out Now/14 Paradox/Royal hunt/Teichiku/06-21/8 Valentine 4-United/Valentine/Polydor/06-20/16 Snapshot/Apes,Pigs&Spacemen/Pony Canyon/07-02/14 The Best Of Asia:Anthology (1982-1997)/Asia/DML/06-25/15 Magic/Axel Rudi Pell/Victor/Out Now/10 When The World Falls Down/Balance Of Power/Pony Canyon/06-18/13 Spellcraft/Darkseed/Victor/06-21/11 The Mind's I/Dark Tranquillity/Toy's Factory/Out Now/15 Electrovision/Doug Aldrich/Pony Canyon/07-02/11 Distorted Sunshine/Downstroke/Roadrunner Jpn/06-21/12 Wounded/Enchant/Fandango/06-25/10 A Pleasant Shade Of Gray/Fates Warning/Victor/06-21/13 Remanufacture-Cloaning Technology-/Fear factory/Roadrunner Jpn/Out Now/14 The Fyreworks/The Fyreworks/Marqee/06-25/7 Valley Of The Kings/Gamma Ray/Victor/Out Now/4 Bug Alley/Gary hoey/Avex/06-25/14 Nighttime Birds/The Gathering/Victor/06-21/11 Fight For Your Life/Gotthard/BMG Jpn/06-21/5 Die Off Hard/Harem Scarem/wea Jpn/06-10/3 Covenant/Holocaust/Pony Canyon/06-18/11 Uncensored Teenage Hardcore/Hybrid Children/Toy's Factory/07-02/17 Wicked From The Womb/Hyperchild/Marqee/06-21/12 The Rockfield Mixes/Ian Gillan Band/Marqee/Out Now/7 Days Of Purgatory/Iced Earth/Victor/Out Now/16 G3 Live In Concert/Joe Satriani-Eric Johnson-Steve Vai/Sony/06-11/12 The Power Station Years 1980-1983/John Bongiovi/Teichiku/07-07/11 This Conversation Seems like A Dream/Kip Winger/Domo/06-21/2CDs 11+6 Something In The Water/Lemon Crush/Soundholic/06-20/15 Another World/Midnight Sun/Alfa/06-25/12 Planet Earth/Mother's Army/Bandai/06-21/9 No More Mr. Nice Guy/Pat Boone/MCA victor/Out Now/12 Hung/Pod/Fandango/06-25/12 Prime Time/Prime Time/Pony Canyon/06-18/9 Dressing Up The Idiot/Prunella Scales/wea Jpn/06-10/11 The Four Seasons Of Life/Roland Grapow/Victor/Out Now/12 It's About Time/Shortino/Avex/06-25/16 Revolution/Slaughter/Victor/Out Now/15 Stone Dead/Sleazy Wizard/Mandreke Root/Out Now/10 Spooge/Stone Soup/King/06-21/12 Rock The house/Thick As Thieves/Avex/06-25/11 Extinct Instinct/Threshold/Fandango/06-25/11 Voices In The Wind/Tim Donahue/Crown/Out Now/11 Lialim High/Twin Age/Marqee/06-25/6 Leathal Illusion/220 Volt/Teichiku/Out Now/13 Lies & Gold Dust/Whatever/Pony Canyon/06-18/12 The Final Catastrophe/Wyzards/Marqee/06-21/7Collage/Ratt/Victor/07-02/TBA (includes bonus track for Japan) Later. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- -Keiji Nishihara 　Doshisha Uni. Electric/Electronic Material Lab. Semiconductor ARRAY KYOTO JAPAN email_address_removed.ne.jp email_address_removed.ac.jp ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 12:01:39 -0400 (EDT) From: AAD To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Rippingtons Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, Jon Parmet wrote: > Speaking of jazz and fusion, I just have to recommend - with every ounce > of my soul -a CD I picked up yesterday. Russ Freeman & The Rippingtons' > Curves Ahead (1991) on GRP Records. I've noticed a lot of excellent > music coming out on GRP. This is one of 'em :) For those of you into > crossover, this shit it the Here here! This is an excellent album. I've been a Rippingtons fan for a long time...longer than I've been a DT fan, and this album is one of their best. I wouldn't consider it to be fusion, though. It is contemporary Jazz with a lot of kick. I'd stay away from their newest releases. I find that the newer music turns into wussy contemporary. Then again, if you're into that sort of thing (ala Kenny G.), go for it. A couple of other great Rippingtons releases are "Weekend in Monaco", and "Welcome to the St. James' Club". Rick Audet Dolby Labs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 01:01:27 +0900 From: email_address_removed.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara) To: email_address_removed Subject: Dokken Live on INTERNET Message-ID: Hi! It's Keiji from Japan. Dokken's forthcoming Japan will be on-line broadcasted. date:11th June 19:00 (Japan) URL:http://www.udo.co.jp/ what you need: Streamworks Just a quick message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- -Keiji Nishihara 　Doshisha Uni. Electric/Electronic Material Lab. Semiconductor ARRAY KYOTO JAPAN email_address_removed.ne.jp email_address_removed.ac.jp ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2615 **************************