YTSEJAM Digest 2552 Today's Topics: 1) DT Tori Amos covers by Mark Hatch-Miller 2) Princess Bride/Crossroads Parody by "Kevin Hammer" 3) Re: Spocks Beard mini review by James Bennett 4) Re: Gwen? by "Vincent G. LuPone" 5) Re: Spocks Beard mini review by "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" 6) gwen's voice by filth 7) Marillion's Strange Album... by Mark Bredius 8) A rehash of today's topics (Some DTC) by "KorgX3" 9) Princess Bride/Crossroads Parody by "Kevin Hammer" 10) Princess Bride/Crossroads Parody by "Kevin Hammer" 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2550 by Marcelo Vanzin 12) Odd Stringed Guitars by Davidjon Sabetai 13) The man even backs me up! (Auction update) by Kevin Villines 14) Ytsejam Digest 2551 by Steve Borzilleri 15) Sherinian, 5th Element, Compilation Discs by Steve Borzilleri ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:54:12 -0700 From: Mark Hatch-Miller To: "email_address_removed" Subject: DT Tori Amos covers Message-ID: I was at school today and I got bored so I went to the computer lab and decided to look at the 'ole unoffical Dream Theater songbook, and I noticed that DT has covered some Tori Amos songs (I knew that Kev Mo had, but not DT). Anyways, I told this girl I know that loved Tori that MY favorite band has covered Tori Amos songs, and she said she really wanted to hear em. Anyways, I dont have Subconcious or Antiquities (i think those are the two boots that were mentioned) so of course she cant hear em. In any case, if anyone has an extra copy of either of these boots lying around (yeah right) or if anyone would be willing to make me a tape or CD-R copy of one or both of these discs i would greatly appreciate it. Mark H-M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Deep RUSH Thoughts: If the rides really were laughing at Lakeside Park, perhaps Neil really ought to quit smoking that stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:51:17 PDT From: "Kevin Hammer" To: email_address_removed Subject: Princess Bride/Crossroads Parody Message-ID: >Since _The Princess Bride_ is my favorite movie of all time and DT is my >favorite band, I thought it would be fitting to write a little parody based hehehe, That was pretty cool. And in the same spirit, I'd like to offer the following: The karate kid (dressed in black) enters the smokey Mississippi blues club to cut heads with Vai. He nervously walks on stage and picks up his Jimie Hindrix signiture model stratocaster. The band starts up, and Vai starts playing some mean blues licks on his Ibanez. When he finnishes, the crowd looks expectantly at the kid in black, who pulls out a slide and plays an equally mean dose of blues licks. Vai nods and replies to him, "not bad kid, but before I step down, there is something you should know.... I'm not left handed." He takes off his jacket and picks up Jem, then begins hellaciously burning through the wildest alternate picking passages that this Mississippi croud has ever heard. The kid in black looks down humbly, but instead of admiting defete, he anounces that he is not left handed either. And after swapping the strat for a right handed telly, he starts fingerpicking through an unbelevable apegiated progression, ending with a bent A off the telly's neck pickup. Vai furriously fumbles through a similar arpegiation, but to his horror, he realizes that the humbucker isn't smooth enough to substitute for a 28th fret, maybe he should have had a washburn that day. The swede, defeted, throws down his guitar, and surrenders the stage to the kid, who after jamming with the old guy with the harmonica, runs off to face the Jazz cat. anyone want to fill in the next part? laterz n' stuff, kevin hammer ------------------------------------------------------ "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Jessica Rabbit "And I swear that I dont have a gun." Kurt Cobain ------------------------------------------------------ Visit the world of Tufif 'de Siks http://www.getaway.net/khammer/ --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:14:13 -0700 From: James Bennett To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Spocks Beard mini review Message-ID: >Ummm, Hellfuckinglo?? I was the one who originally posted the review, and it included comments like: "The singer was very talented - he was also a great keyboardist and decent guitarist". I said "The drummer was pretty good". I mentioned the guitarist's unorthodox style. I didn't mention the bassist. And I mentioned how many of the songs had *great* melodies interspersed, and that I was really getting into "The Official Live Bootleg" and "Beware of Darkness", and that the song "The Light" kicks ass. I also said they were definitely worth checking out. In other words, you are ranting against someone who agrees with you. Try not to be so quick to jump all over a piece of quote taken out of context.. Neil, I do apologize I did not see your original review. Taken out of context, it seemed like you were being sarcastic and saying that the rest of Spocks sucked. Sorry about that. I guess Scott took that as ammunition to tell me to fuck off for not saying hello. Hope I didn't hurt your feelings Scott- but like I said I didn't see your 'jam shirt and am a little on the shy side myself even if I had seen it... Peace ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:35:23 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Gwen? Message-ID: At 11:47 AM 5/14/97 -0700, some dude with wrote: > >> Since I know some of you will get a kick out of this, I tought I'd >>mention it: Gwen Stefani of No Doubt has just signed a contract with UTA >>for theatrical representation. Yes, the blonde bimbo will be starting an >>acting career. First I had to stop listening to the radio, does this >>mean I have to stop going to the movies too? :P Okay, here's a quick thought, why does everyone want to hate a mainstream band? I mean, I personally don't like No Doubt's music, but I respect them as musicians and human beings. I mean, they're not as talented as Dream Theater, but they're not exactly Sonic Youth either. Related topic: Why do people see a need to rag on Gwen Stefani? Her voice is not that bad, actually it's pretty good IMO. Is it because it's a woman making headway (excuse the perverse pun ;) in a predominantly male-populated genre? I dunno, but unless there's some good basis to rag on No Doubt (such as the overused Aerosmith-knockoff riffs), why do it? As far as her getting an acting career, who knows, maybe it's always been a dream of hers to be an actress, and a mainstream band was the easiest way to get noticed and break into showbusiness. Kinda dumb to piss on somebody's face for following their dream, huh? Jus' some thoughts. Laterz all, Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/6933 | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 97 16:46:42 -0700 From: "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Spocks Beard mini review Message-ID: Lisa Marie wrote: >Scott, I think you're being a little harsh here, considering I walked >right in front of you several times and you didn't say hi to me either. That would mean you walked in front of me too. I can't believe I didn't notice!! I was probably pissed because someone blocked my view of the band ;).. Interesting that you really dug the opening band. I thought their bassist kicked ass, but beyond that I couldn't get into it. I'm a guitarist and, to me, the guitarist just didn't cut it.. oh well.. See ya at the next Bay Area prog show! later all, -Neil. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 18:50:37 -0500 From: filth To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds Subject: gwen's voice Message-ID: > Related topic: Why do people see a need to rag on Gwen Stefani? Her >voice is not that bad, actually it's pretty good IMO. i think its pretty damn good. all you rush fans better not talk: female geddy lee all the way. ~Rip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 01:53:36 +0200 From: Mark Bredius To: "'Ytsejam'" Subject: Marillion's Strange Album... Message-ID: On the last digest, I said : > Oh, and buy Marillion's new brilliant album "This Strange Album" ! Of course that should be "This Strange Engine", just checking if anyone's paying attention. It *is* a strange album, though, for the following reasons : * Instead of Steve Rothery (guitars), Mark Kelly (keyboards) is the most dominating musician on this album. This one has some of his best work to date ! * The title track is over half an hour. The last 15 minutes is probably the most boring stuff they've ever recorded. Silence ! * After the silence Steve Hogarth starts laughing like a freaking maniac, while Mark Kelly is playing piano. This piano part will be the intro for their first single, out next week in Europe. On the Japanese version, the silence is replaced by two bonus tracks (acoustic versions of Made Again and Beautiful). * And then there's a song called "Hope For The Future". Marillion themselves call this "Gloria Estefan on acid" :-) A typical "fun-track". * Beware of the psycho alien kids choir on the opening track ! This song also has a part where Steve's voice fades into a synth sound... Betcha won't be able to tell exactly where one ends and the other starts... Pretty nifty stuff... "I took a leap and I landed on the mooooooooooooooooooooooon" * Also, this has to be the first album in history for which the promo was made AFTER the album's release. Leave it up to yet ANOTHER record company to fuck things up. * "TSE" has eight brilliant songs on it. Ok, that part isn't strange... but enough reason for you to check it out :-) If you're interested in some samples, try the news section of the official Marillion site "The Web Online" ---> http://www.marillion.com And after that, follow Marillion's Warm Web Circle to discover some pretty cool Marillion and Fish sites :-) Btw, Fish (ex-Marillion) will be releasing his long awaited album "Sunsets On Empire" next week, in Europe (19th) ! Steve Wilson from "Porcupine Tree" co-wrote most of it, and also plays on this album. All the more reason to check this one out too :-) Samples can be found on the official Fish site, "Wilderness of Mirrors" ---> http://www.livjm.ac.uk/fish/ Sorry... No DTC again, but there are enough Marillion fans on this list to justify this shameless plug :-) Ps. I'll try not to shove Marillion down your throats like I did last year :-) Mark email_address_removed Would someone please let me know how we _ _____ ___ _ _ __ __ have spun out of control ? |:||_.:._|/:._]|:]_[:|\.\_/./ Has the captain let go of the wheel ? |:| |:| (.:(_ |:___:| \_::/ (Queensryche - Sign of the Times) |_| [_] \___]|_] [_| [__/ _________________________________________________________________________ Itchy's Homepage - http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:08:32 +0000 From: "KorgX3" To: email_address_removed Subject: A rehash of today's topics (Some DTC) Message-ID: > Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:48:10 -0700 (PDT) > Reply-to: email_address_removed > From: "Christian, the man who Killed Mary" > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: James, Dimarzio, Floyd Rose and other animals :) > > Howdy jammers, > > [Kick JLB?] > I think this whole JLB discussion has a point. If the line of defense is > "it's not his fault that the other guys are so good!!", then maybe there I think JLB's problem isn't with his voice, I think it's with his stage presence. Arguing with the audience can be kinda bad. All we need is another Axl Rose in our favorite band... :P His voice is supreme, though, and that's all that matters to me. I agree that people are mor mesmerized by the players, but average people don't study them so much. They watch the singer because he "fronts" the band. I think Geoff was the epitome of activity during the PL tour. He actually did some lame acting that kept your attention focused on the concert a bit. We'll see after the next tour though. We haven't given the guys enough time to mature. > > [DiMarzio] > I have never experienced what has been described by a couple of people > already. Both my Ibanez have DiMarzio pickups and they have just about the Me neither. I get a very high output with my Evolution but I can crank and not worry so much about feedback. The only problem is that I have to tone the DSP volumes in the Digitech or else they carry too high an output through it and cause some unwanted distortion. They sound damn great (The Evolution, the PAF Pro, and the Fast Track) > [Floyd Rose] > The biggest advertisement for the Floyd Rose has always been that it never > goes out of tune. It is a pain in the ass to learn to tune it up properly The key trick I've noticed about the floyd rose is not to tighten the head nuts for about a day after you restring it. It gives the strings time to release a bit of tension and you will likely have to tune it up again the next day, then it should be OK to tighten up as long as you don't have to tune it severely. Ever since I started doing this, my 'nez see,s to never go out of tune. At least not until the gunk that build up on the strings weighs them down. :) I dunno, it works for me, even with my Lo Pro Edge, Madz. :) > Everybody else: Pick up the new Magellan, and get Shadow Gallery's > "CIS" while you're at it. Can anybody tell me what Shadow Gallery's > first is like? Or Magellan's first, "Hour of Restoration", for that Shadow Gallery's first one remind me of orchestrated "Europe" for some reason. Yah, "The Final Countdown" band. Say Goodbye to the Morning rokz some serious nadz in the Crystalline Dream vein, tho. I recommend it, just don't expect Carved in Stone again. :) > IF YOU WERE PUTTING ON A CONCERT WHAT BANDS WOULD YOU PICK TO PLAY? > OF COURSE DREAM THEATER BUT WHO ELSE? Ahh, what the hell? Dream Theatre, Megadeath, Shatter Gallery, Grungeryche, Legume Voice. > there is something you should know.... I'm not left handed." He > takes off his jacket and picks up Jem, then begins hellaciously > burning through the wildest alternate picking passages that this > Mississippi croud has ever heard. The kid Which came first, the guitar or the cartoon? Jem was hot. :) ---KorgX3 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 18:11:17 PDT From: "Kevin Hammer" To: email_address_removed Subject: Princess Bride/Crossroads Parody Message-ID: >Since _The Princess Bride_ is my favorite movie of all time and DT is my >favorite band, I thought it would be fitting to write a little parody based hehehe, That was pretty cool. And in the same spirit, I'd like to offer the following: The karate kid (dressed in black) enters the smokey Mississippi blues club to cut heads with Vai. He nervously walks on stage and picks up his Jimie Hindrix signiture model stratocaster. The band starts up, and Vai starts playing some mean blues licks on his Ibanez. When he finnishes, the crowd looks expectantly at the kid in black, who pulls out a slide and plays an equally mean dose of blues licks. Vai nods and replies to him, "not bad kid, but before I step down, there is something you should know.... I'm not left handed." He takes off his jacket and picks up Jem, then begins hellaciously burning through the wildest alternate picking passages that this Mississippi croud has ever heard. The kid in black looks down humbly, but instead of admiting defete, he anounces that he is not left handed either. And after swapping the strat for a right handed telly, he starts fingerpicking through an unbelevable apegiated progression, ending with a bent A off the telly's neck pickup. Vai furriously fumbles through a similar arpegiation, but to his horror, he realizes that the humbucker isn't smooth enough to substitute for a 28th fret, maybe he should have had a washburn that day. The swede, defeted, throws down his guitar, and surrenders the stage to the kid, who after jamming with the old guy with the harmonica, runs off to face the Jazz cat. anyone want to fill in the next part? laterz n' stuff, kevin hammer ------------------------------------------------------ "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Jessica Rabbit "And I swear that I dont have a gun." Kurt Cobain ------------------------------------------------------ Visit the world of Tufif 'de Siks http://www.getaway.net/khammer/ --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 18:24:32 PDT From: "Kevin Hammer" To: email_address_removed Subject: Princess Bride/Crossroads Parody Message-ID: >Since _The Princess Bride_ is my favorite movie of all time and DT is my >favorite band, I thought it would be fitting to write a little parody based hehehe, That was pretty cool. And in the same spirit, I'd like to offer the following: The karate kid (dressed in black) enters the smokey Mississippi blues club to cut heads with Vai. He nervously walks on stage and picks up his Jimie Hindrix signiture model stratocaster. The band starts up, and Vai starts playing some mean blues licks on his Ibanez. When he finnishes, the crowd looks expectantly at the kid in black, who pulls out a slide and plays an equally mean dose of blues licks. Vai nods and replies to him, "not bad kid, but before I step down, there is something you should know.... I'm not left handed." He takes off his jacket and picks up Jem, then begins hellaciously burning through the wildest alternate picking passages that this Mississippi croud has ever heard. The kid in black looks down humbly, but instead of admiting defete, he anounces that he is not left handed either. And after swapping the strat for a right handed telly, he starts fingerpicking through an unbelevable apegiated progression, ending with a bent A off the telly's neck pickup. Vai furriously fumbles through a similar arpegiation, but to his horror, he realizes that the humbucker isn't smooth enough to substitute for a 28th fret, maybe he should have had a washburn that day. The swede, defeted, throws down his guitar, and surrenders the stage to the kid, who after jamming with the old guy with the harmonica, runs off to face the Jazz cat. anyone want to fill in the next part? laterz n' stuff, kevin hammer ------------------------------------------------------ "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Jessica Rabbit "And I swear that I dont have a gun." Kurt Cobain ------------------------------------------------------ Visit the world of Tufif 'de Siks http://www.getaway.net/khammer/ --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 20:10:44 -0300 From: Marcelo Vanzin To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2550 Message-ID: Hi there, > ------------------------------ > From: "Dan Souza" > Subject: A thousand strings.. > So, we have acoustic guitars with 4 (cavaquinho), 5-double-strings, 6 (you > know..), two types of 7-strings (one of them called "viola"), 8 (4-double: > bandolim, banjo..), 10 and 12-strings!! :-)) Hey! you forgot the "guitarra baiana". :) An electric 5-string guitar, the size is pretty close to a banjo, and it sounds pretty cool. :) Not to mention some crazy guitars some people have (think I saw some in the latest Guitar Player Brasil... Can't remember it now). []'s Marcelo Vanzin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 02:57:25 +0000 From: Davidjon Sabetai To: email_address_removed Subject: Odd Stringed Guitars Message-ID: <19970515025723.AAA25298@LOCALNAME> > Some guy in the Boston area builds a 8-string guitar and a 7-string bass. > I read that in some guitar magazine a year ago. Since I don't think I > can afford one, I didn't keep that article. A marine biology teacher at my school (Miami, FL) is a luthier. He makes beautiful 6, 7 and 8 string guitars with odd tunings. Vintage Guitar wrote an article about him. Has anyone seen or heard of the guy (forgot his name) who plays a 4 string electric mandolin. Gibson makes his mandolins, which look like mini Explorers. Classiscal composers and violists influenced this guy. I saw him jamming on stage with Yngwie Malmsteen at a clinic. SOME SERIOUS SHREDDING! Isaac ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 22:14:32 -0500 From: Kevin Villines To: YtseJam Mailing list Subject: The man even backs me up! (Auction update) Message-ID: [ Kevin Villines ] > I've got three Bahr cds for auction: > Metallica-The Wrath Of God (#73) Starting Bid $45 > Amos, Tori-Inside The Storm (#129) Starting Bid $45 > Dream Theater-Acoustic Dreams (Prototype) starting bid $60 > E-Mail offers to email_address_removed > Well, to all of you who begged, borrowed, and pleaded to me to get >copies of these... here's your chance. Don't waste this chance. :) $60 >for an Acoustic Dreams prototype goes _beyond_ "a steal". Only about 10 >protos of AD exist in the world. Wrath and ITS are the two rarest discs >I've made, in terms of print run. Kev must really be desperate for the >cash... Thanks to Mike for the support. Yes, I do need the cash(managed to toal out my car the other day and every little scrap helps-always somethin', ain't it!) Anyway, here's the bids so far: Metallica-The Wrath Of God (#73) Starting Bid $45-No Bid thus far Amos, Tori-Inside The Storm (#129) $55 bid Dream Theater-Acoustic Dreams (Prototype-ONLY 10 IN EXISTENCE!) $75 Bid I'll close the bidding after three days pass from my last bid on an item. I may have to sell Metallica to myself though :) Send 'em in at email_address_removed Thanks guys and gals (ytsejammers rule!), Kevin. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:39:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Ytsejam Subject: Ytsejam Digest 2551 Message-ID: This user has his/her e-mail account disabled because it is our school's SUMMER break. In case the student is enrolled in one of our summer classes, then the account is disabled for one of the following reasons: - owner is still enrolled this summer, but not using the account - owner has some problems regarding his/her e-mail/disk quota NOTE: The user won't get or receive a copy of this e-mail. Should you need assistance, please mail email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:57:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Drym Thzbnz Subject: Sherinian, 5th Element, Compilation Discs Message-ID: > From: Charlie Patel > Subject: Comments > > Ig8HAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy > ZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAdAEAAAEAAAAQAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL > AAAAAAIB/w8BAAAAOwAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHl0c2VqYW1AYXguY29t > VFAAeXRzZWphbUBheC5jb20AAB4AAjABAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgADMAEAAAAPAAAAeXRz > bUBheC5jb20AAAMAFQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEwAQAAABEAAAAneXRzZWphbUBheC5jb20n > AAIBCzABAAAAFAAAAFNNVFA6WVRTRUpBTUBBWC5DT00AAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAB4A9l8B YES, for the umpteenth time, Derek Sherinian appears in "Wayne's World," during the part where Wayne and Garth meet Alice Cooper backstage. I don't have a website, but if you go see "The 5th Element" you'll get an idea of how I think. This is the sort of stuff I'd love to do. (not Leeloo, the movie) Anyone else here going to see Queensryche at the Gorge in June? Has their tour already started? Well last weekend I received in the mail "Scenes From A Memory" and "Precious Things." "Scenes" is one of the titles that was entered into the pot for Mike Bahr's first DT compilation, which went on to be titled "Subconscious." (don't put that in the FAQ, D. and good luck rolling away the stone!) The cover art on these discs is wild, kudos to Dark Star wherever he may be! I'd already heard several of the things on these discs, but this recording medium raises the clarity of everything which is always nice. So far out of the two compilations I enjoy PT more because of all the live recordings. Plus I finally got to hear "Raise The Knife," which I can now verify to the entire list as NOT being "Barfbag." No barfbags here. None. Bring in a tank, I'll barf the fuckin' thing! "Chee-kan. Good." --Leeloo Bafu Vai ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2552 **************************