YTSEJAM Digest 2509 Today's Topics: 1) Fates by Lars Hellsten 2) Am I dreaming? by Lars Hellsten 3) Help please!! by email_address_removed (toppii) 4) Fretblanket (NDTC & NFWC) by "Andrew Keith Garinger" 5) please by aeroguil 6) DT-singles??? by "Herr Flaaten" 7) DTsingles by "Herr Flaaten" 8) Re: Fates by Syrinx 9) Ytsejam Information by Rick Audet 10) flamewar by Chip Alexander 11) Random musings by "Glenn Pillsbury" 12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2506 by email_address_removed (Shane Liebling) 13) Ytsejam Information (take 2) by Rick Audet 14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2508 by "Dale R. Newberry" 15) Long Island Traffic Jams and such... by "KorgX3" 16) A bad day for a fan of DT and hockey from Miami by Davidjon Sabetai 17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2505 by email_address_removed 18) Sebastien Ferland by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 18:28:32 -0400 From: Lars Hellsten To: email_address_removed Subject: Fates Message-ID: You wrote: > If one doesn't agree with the norm, they are crushed. > mike ostrich e-mail: email_address_removed / email_address_removed Well, for christ's sake ostrich-boy, when you have your head buried in your ass you should expect to be shit on!!! Duh! ** Lars Hellsten (email_address_removed) ** All good things must come to an end. #66, you were, are, and always will be The Best. Thanks for the memories. We'll miss you. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 18:32:59 -0400 From: Lars Hellsten To: email_address_removed Subject: Am I dreaming? Message-ID: Albert Balkiewicz wrote: > If anyone really wants this and can't get it, let me know - > I could probably find a way to get it to ya........ Don't! He'll probably ask you to pay the cost of a postage stamp and never send it. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 20:43:02 -0300 From: email_address_removed (toppii) To: "Ytsejam" Subject: Help please!! Message-ID: <19970426003033.AAA20010@toppii> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BA10F1.A962D7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi again . I'm in a really Desperate need for Info on DT for a term paper i'm doing. If anybody Would please help me out here. I can use any and/or every source possible. so PLEASE!! send something. p.s. Don't think somebody else will send stuph cause they probablly think the same thing. besides, I can use it all. Thanx a lot ~-~Anti-Nazi Punx!!~-~ ALL HAIL TheCowGod!! BOO!! email_address_removed ~g-HosT ------=_NextPart_000_01BA10F1.A962D7E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi again . I'm in a really = Desperate need for Info on DT for a term paper i'm doing. If = anybody Would please help me out here. I can use any and/or = every source possible. so PLEASE!! send something.

p.s. = Don't think somebody else will send stuph cause they probablly think the = same thing. besides, I can use it all.

Thanx a lot =

~-~Anti-Nazi Punx!!~-~
ALL HAIL TheCowGod!!
= BOO!!

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~g-HosT

------=_NextPart_000_01BA10F1.A962D7E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 19:40:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Andrew Keith Garinger" To: email_address_removed Subject: Fretblanket (NDTC & NFWC) Message-ID: OK, this had very little relevance to anything on the 'Jam, but you folks are my last resource. There was a band called Fretblanket that came out of the Stourbridge U.K. scene that spawned bands like Ned's Atomic Dustbin and PWEI. They put out one amazing album called Junkfuel, toured with Ned's for awhile, and proceeded to disappear from the face of the earth. I've searched the web for hours tracing the smallest mention of their name and found nothing about what happened to the band after that. Do any of you fonts of musical knowledge have any wisdom to bestow? I LOVED these guys! Andrew -- email_address_removed Zeta Beta Tau-Beta Epsilon Chapter "Outside the soundness of your mind" "I don't believe what I'm thinking" Bathing your soul in silver tears I'm less than useful Beneath a blackened summer sky I could take it from someone else Praying for time to disappear" But even I think it's truthful" ---Dream Theater "Under a Glass Moon" ---Ned's Atomic Dustbin "Less Than Useful" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 19:39:14 -0400 From: aeroguil To: email_address_removed Subject: please Message-ID: Please cancel my subscription. I'm tired of that Ytsejam Digest. It is of no use to me. Please oh please stop sending them. I've tried the way you told me but it didn't work. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 17:03:16 PDT From: "Herr Flaaten" To: email_address_removed Subject: DT-singles??? Message-ID: Wondering about the existence and availability of DT singles not released in Europe. Here, "Lie" and "Silent Man" are the only singles. If you know anything, please let me know. Christian Flaaten E-mail: email_address_removed --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 17:05:50 PDT From: "Herr Flaaten" To: email_address_removed Subject: DTsingles Message-ID: Wondering about the existence and availability of DT singles not released in Europe. Here, "Lie" and "Silent Man" are the only singles. If you know anything, please let me know. Christian Flaaten E-mail: email_address_removed --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 20:08:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx To: Lars Hellsten Subject: Re: Fates Message-ID: > > > If one doesn't agree with the norm, they are crushed. > > mike ostrich e-mail: email_address_removed / email_address_removed > > Well, for christ's sake ostrich-boy, when you have your head buried in your > ass you should expect to be shit on!!! Duh! say that to my face and i'll flatten you like a fucking pancake, boy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 20:18:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet To: email_address_removed Subject: Ytsejam Information Message-ID: <<< No Message Collected >>> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 19:27:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Chip Alexander To: email_address_removed Subject: flamewar Message-ID: Hi- Here's my take on the recent flamewar. 1. This list would be boring as shit if every one had exactly the same opinion about music. 2. It's good to be confronted with ideas/opinions that differ from your own - makes you think new thoughts. 3. There's nothing to be gained by not voicing your opinion, and we can all benefit by exploring our differences as well as our similarities. Maybe the angry tone of some of those posts was disturbing to some readers of this list, but imho it was just a demonstration of the depth of those peoples feelings about music. (ok - maybe it did get a bit gratuitous at times) But regardless, these moments of dischord are just part of the underlying pattern. I personally don't want someone to withhold an opinion because they are afraid of the invective that might ensue. Rock on- Chip ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 17:32:04 PST From: "Glenn Pillsbury" To: email_address_removed Subject: Random musings Message-ID: On the Fates CD and their usual opener status, I think the first 4 or so parts could be extracted to demonstrate the song, at least everything before "Murder in Munich." Also, does anyone ever notice the last post of every jam seems to always fit as an ending to that particular jam or just seems like a cool ending to something, like a signoff. Whenever Bafu ends a jam that feeling is most evident. I dunno, maybe I'm off the deep end but any English majors out there need an end-of-the-semester project? Anyway, see what you think the next time the jam comes 'round. Glenn, who kinda hopes this post isn't the last one in the next jam ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 17:54:01 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Shane Liebling) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2506 Message-ID: >Heh...I guess we did get 'em all. I don't know how many prog friends you >have, but I'm kinda glad I jumped on this album as soon as I could. One >of you guys might have beaten me to my copy:). Then I would have been >shit-out-of-luck indeed. BTW, I went by Amoeba. They didn't have it. I >didn't hunt down a store clerk ("Fates who?") for help like I did at >Rasputin's, so I can't be sure. And here I thought you and I were the >only two people in Berkeley who'd heard of this thing coming out:). Nope, there are acouple of us out here, I think including you and I there are a total of 6 jammers, though I am slowly getting a couple people (females!) hooked on DT. >Does anybody know the command getting the archived digests from the >ax.com server. I've sent the following to email_address_removed several >times: >subject: asdf >get ytsejam ytsejam.#### ("####" = digest number) If you want I can just forward them to you, I have a damn good chunk of old Jams... -Shane Currently listening to: Yanni - Live At The Acropolis ______________________________________________________________________________ I Shane Liebling I I was told there's a miracle for each I I email_address_removed I day that I try. I was told there's a I I http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi I new love that's born for each one I I CAA Tweeker & Ytsejammer I that has died... Love is the Dance of I I Member of A.M.M.O. since 1997 I Eternity."Metropolis" - Dream Theater I ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 21:01:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet To: email_address_removed Subject: Ytsejam Information (take 2) Message-ID: (this didn't get through last time...I think. Let's try again.) Skadz used to post this every Saturday night. I thought it was time to repost. I suggest EVERYONE read this thing, because it's easy to forget how valuable the content is. (IF THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU ARE SEEING THIS POST, PLEASE READ IT THROUGH COMPLETELY, THERE IS ALOT OF IMPORTANT INFORMATION) Hey All .... Here is my new weekly posting about how to get the most (or least if you don't like us) out of the ytsejam. This will be coming out weekly (hopefully) at least for a while since we are quickly gaining subscribers since school is now back in session. I may post it less often after a while, but for now, it will be weekly. To get on to the Dream Theater Mailing List: Send mail to email_address_removed For the subject of the message put: asdf In the body of the message put: subscribe ytsejam Your Name replace Your Name with your real name (eg: Ryan Skadberg). You should recieve a confirmation letter in the your mailbox within 24 hours. If you do not, mail email_address_removed and I will help you out as soon as possible. To change the mode you recieve the Dream Theater Mailing List in: There are two ways you can recieve the ytsejam. The first is in digest which is the default. This sends you a large message which contains 15-20 emails each. The other is ack mode, which means you recieve each piece of mail as it comes through. To do this: Send mail to email_address_removed For the subject of the message put: asdf In the body of the message put: set ytsejam mail ack OR set ytsejam mail digest If you have any problems, please mail email_address_removed. To get off the Dream Theater Mailing List: Send mail to email_address_removed For the subject of the message put: asdf In the body of the message put: unsubscribe ytsejam You should recieve a confirmation letter within 24 hours. If you don't, once again, please mail email_address_removed and I will help you out as soon as I can. To recieve files from the Dream Theater Mailing List: There are many files kept by the mailing list server. The biggest group are old issues of the jam. It is archived since 1275. If you are looking for an issue earlier than that, please mail email_address_removed and I will see what I can do. There are also other files kept on the server. These include Mike Bahr CD Updates, The "UnOfficial" Dream Theater SongBook and some others. Any time I add something I usually send a post to the jam so everyone knows about it. To get a list of the files available from the server: Send mail to email_address_removed For the subject of the message put: asdf In the body of the message put: index ytsejam This will send you a list of all the files available from the server. To retrieve one of these files: Send mail to email_address_removed For the subject of the message put: asdf In the body of the message put: get ytsejam filename In place of filename, put the name of the file you want. Basic Rules: There are some basic rules to the jam which make everyone's reading alot more pleasant. Please try and follow them as closely as possible. I will send out warnings to people who blatantly disobey these. You get one warning, a second offense will get your jam priviledges taken away. 1. Do not post just for the sake of posting. There is already a lot of valid traffic on this list, we don't need unnecessary posts which are a waste of everyone's time. The basic rule you should all try to follow is to think before you post. 2. No Top Ten (Five, Twenty, Thirty, etc) lists. These lists are a waste. They take up alot of bandwidth and fill up everyone's mailbox much faster than they would like it filled up. If you want to know everyone's top somethings, please ask for ALL responses to be mailed directly to you. This has been done with the end results posted to the jam and it was very very nice. 3. Do not start / participate in / complain about long off-topic discussions. These have gotten WAY out of hand in the past. If one starts, I will post once saying to stop and take it to private email, anyone continuing the discussion will recieve a warning. These include such topics as God, NIN, Blind Melon, bands selling out, etc. 4. Private E-Mail is a wonderful thing. Use it when you think it may be more useful than posting to the jam. 5. Last, but not least, this is YOUR ytsejam. I am around, and I do administrative work, but I do not say what can/cannot be talked about (most of the time) or moderate in any real way. I am the Ytsejam Administrator more than Moderator. Don't complain if the jam seems to be going downhill, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Basically, that is all the basic info. As always, if you have any problems feel free to mail me. I get ALOT of mail on a daily basis, so it sometimes takes me a while to get back to you, but 99% of the time, I will get back to you eventually. Thanks for Reading and Enjoy the List!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 20:37:35 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2508 Message-ID: >anyone recognize this? Hope we have some old-school Dr. Dememnto >fans here. AHHH!!!!! Fish Heads!!!!!!!! Roly poly fisheads are never seen drinking cappuccino in Italian restaurants with oriental women!!!! yeah. Demento RULES!!! Dale R. Newberry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 20:49:25 +0000 From: "KorgX3" To: email_address_removed Subject: Long Island Traffic Jams and such... Message-ID: > actually, saying the above statements constitutes an opinion. i only > showed my distaste for the band and music to the extent that i > did because i didn't feel like getting into a flame war, and i knew > that the fanatical FW fans would go apeshit if someone gave a > dissenting opinion of it. and to be honest, it's not really that > important. and hell, it already happened. You know what really gets me? That everyone (and a couple of their mom's as well) have been posting extensive opinions on the new Fates album. Why? I recall my post about having probs finding it and all, but I didn't go into a small novel explaining what the moving parts of it to me were. Why? Because I really don't think anyone cares is why. I've skipped so many of these posts in the last few days it's incredible. Of course everyone does this thing.... "Oh, by the way, I gave Mike a kidney for his birthday, just in case he may need one in a year or so..." Ya know? Put your useful info first and then ramble on. Some other people on this list aren't fond of Fates, so deal with it. They'd much rather wipe their ass with the CD liner notes than try and figure out what some imbedded pictured are in them. No offense, but try to show a little courtesy to everyone and think whether or not your letter is suitable to be posted or not. Nuff said... "Idle hands are the Devil's advocate. Keep busy thine hands and forbid the Devil into thy lustful desires!" --Bishop Maynard on the subject of self arrousal. "KorgX3" email_address_removed http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 03:42:11 +0000 From: Davidjon Sabetai To: email_address_removed Subject: A bad day for a fan of DT and hockey from Miami Message-ID: <19970426034209.AAA7752@LOCALNAME> Sorry guys but I gotta express my frustration, Today was a bad day that got worse. First I overslept. Then I did poorly on my English assignment and my physics quiz. Then when the bell to go home finally rang, I got my usual burst of energy for the weekend. At night me and four of my friends decided to goto the local sports bar to watch our Florida Panthers beat the NY Rangers and start a comeback that would end with the Panthers winning the series in game 7. Not only did the Panthers lose in overtime, but when we got in my friend's car to go home, what else but "No Rain" by Blind Melon was playing on the radio. :( I'm glad today is officially over in 10 minutes. Isaac ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 23:45:01 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2505 Message-ID: ding ding ding ding........ just a quick note during the 1st intermission of the current flame war: g. jack thetgyi gets the grand prize- a night with MY sister, for getting the trivia question correct. heart, vh, and bela all have in common kin relationships in the band. heart- anne and nancy wilson vh- eddie and alex van halen bela- victor and fred wootn (future man) good job, gil. i'll mail her up to you priority mail. try not to tear her asshole up again. peace. ytsegoon ********************************************************************** david yoichi kobayashi binghamton university email_address_removed ".....and all of these emotions of mine keep holding me from giving my life to a rainbow like you...." -j. hendrix ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 23:58:13 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Sebastien Ferland Message-ID: Sorry to do this here. :^( Does anyone know what Sebastien Ferland's new e-mail address is? I have been trying but it is bouncing back to me. Seb are you still here? Please answer via private e-mail Thanks, Jim ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2509 **************************