YTSEJAM Digest 2493 Today's Topics: 1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2490 by email_address_removed (Jeff Keifling) 2) APSoG by email_address_removed (Jeff Keifling) 3) This list does... by email_address_removed (Jeff Keifling) 4) Stupid store clerks by email_address_removed (Jeff Keifling) 5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2492 by email_address_removed (Jeff Keifling) 6) APSoG (again) by email_address_removed (Jeff Keifling) 7) APSoG (again) by email_address_removed (Jeff Keifling) 8) **CD Trading Update** by email_address_removed (Michael Bradley) 9) Feelin' fine and cherry wine (No BMX) by Brian Henderson 10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2492 by email_address_removed (Jeff Keifling) 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2484 by email_address_removed (Ernesto Schnack) 12) Re: long-ness;Eve;more FW;primus by me128 student 13) Re: long-ness;Eve;more FW;primus by Carlos Alfaro 14) DTIFC by email_address_removed 15) My Fates Warning Journey / Winter Rose by Tim 16) Re: Primus' new drummer by Jacktallica Thetfield 17) more apsog by Anton Max 18) Re: Zappa song by email_address_removed (Scott Cook) 19) Kuul new guitarist by email_address_removed (Aaron K. Silverman) 20) Darkest of Winters... by "Brian Hayden" 21) Ozz Fest@St. Louis by "Dale R. Newberry" 22) Crossroads, Vai by "Vincent G. LuPone" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 00:14:27 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Jeff Keifling) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2490 Message-ID: >I can't do this, its DT Chicken from the Savatage album Streets. Someone >else can pick up on this and make one cuz I'm just not creative enough. Couldn't be too bad; I picked up on it pretty quick. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 00:17:27 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Jeff Keifling) To: email_address_removed Subject: APSoG Message-ID: One riff in Track 4 resembles one from Take the Time. The one before John's solo. Think this was intentional? I mean It's not the keys, and Kev didn't write the song anyway. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 00:32:18 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Jeff Keifling) To: email_address_removed Subject: This list does... Message-ID: > while the store clerk ("Fates who?") went Darnit, they'd be mentioned everywhere if they would just change the name to Fates Who. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 00:51:22 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Jeff Keifling) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2492 Message-ID: >And if it werent for all of >you ytsejammers, I probably wouldnt have ever even bought this or gotten >into Fatez at all. Know what'cher sayin. I knew of Fates for several years because I had copies of their tapes in my living room all that time. Never listened to them 'til a month ago. Now I own three of 'em CDs. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 00:54:32 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Jeff Keifling) To: email_address_removed Subject: APSoG (again) Message-ID: >wondering a bit why they chose not to name any of the sections.....i guess >they don't plan on sending anything to radio stations.... Hey, that'd be cool. "...And here's Fates Warning with, Part 12!..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 00:57:12 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Jeff Keifling) To: email_address_removed Subject: APSoG (again) Message-ID: I know which CD to play when I only have one hour before work and I'm extremely tired. I don't trust my alarm. It's failed me too many times. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 00:57:01 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Michael Bradley) To: email_address_removed Subject: **CD Trading Update** Message-ID: Hey guys, Just thought I'd add some more used CD's to the list I want to trade for any cool prog, ie: Steve Morse, Marty Friedman, recent King Crimson, Kenny Wayne Shepard, Spock's Beard, misc. DT stuff, or any other similar stuff. BTW, I like most guitar wankers, except the Yngwie rip-offs:) Savatage--"Dead Winter Dead" Shawn Lane--"Powers of Ten" King Crimson--"Thrak Attack" (live CD of improvs w/poster). King's X--"Faith Hope Love" Majesty--"Acoustic Dreams" (JUST KIDDING:) This will probably be the last post I make about this, because I'd like to keep this excess bandwidth off the jam, so e-mail me privately if you're interested. Later guys! -Mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:57:25 -0400 From: Brian Henderson To: email_address_removed Subject: Feelin' fine and cherry wine (No BMX) Message-ID: So, for whatever reason, I was unable to pick up the new Fates... All right, my mom wouldn't let me borrow the car. You happy now?! Go ahead, laugh at the baby, I don't care... I can take it... All righty, , the points of this message are twofold. Two points, that is, as in bipointary... Poor Oblieo, banished to the Pointless Forest, only because he was different (no point), and with no one to keep him company, but his pointed dog, Arrow. "Me and my Arrow, doo dee doo dee dooty-doo-doo-doo, straighter than narrow, doo dee doo dee dooty-doo-doo-doo, wherever he goes, everyone knows, just me and my Arrow..." Yah, ubertangent! I've been talking a lot with this one kid in school a lot lately, and I found out he had a lot of instruments for sale. Apparently, one of his friends' roomates left in a hurry for whatever reason, and left a drumkit, a guitar, a keyboard, and some other goodies behind. Pat, the kid I referred to in the first sentence of this pseudoparagraph, then bought them off the nameless friend for a horribly minimal sum of money. $60 for the entire drumkit! Anyhow, now he's got them for sale, and, being a keyboardist, I was curious to see what it was he was trying to get rid of. I asked for some specs, and this is the message he delivered today on a quarter sheet of notebook paper (fringeless): "Yamaha Portasound PSS-540 multi-programable Keyboard PCM rythem/stereo" His spelling errors, not mine... Does anyone know anything about this 'board? Would it be worth a few hundred dollars, while I continue to save for a bigass Kurzweil or Korg? Better yet, what would be a good price to offer him? I don't think he has any idea of its retail value. Private E-mail would probably be the best option here. Thanks in advance to any "helpers"... Ah, we've reached the second point. I finally made up my mind on a college, acceptance papers sent in today. University of Maryland (College Park) won out. Any 'Jammers in the area looking for a fairly decent keyboardist come autumn? Aye, that be it, laddies. Quiz tomorrow, and no lining up at the door. Brian Henderson, Cyberburlap Force II email_address_removed "So, does Dream Theater do like modes?" -- R. Moore ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 01:07:46 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Jeff Keifling) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2492 Message-ID: >I went back to Tower a bit later and saw that the other two copies >that they had were sold. Nice to see... I think it's selling a heckuva lot more than the stores anticipated. (How could they, "Fates Who?") I had to return mine ONE HOUR afterwards because of some broken plastic and when I went over to get another, the other SIX copies I had previously seen were gone. I got the last one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 00:01:35 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Ernesto Schnack) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2484 Message-ID: >years, but I believe it's on Sheik, there's a song where Frank >absolutely rips the crap out of the guitar. my guitar wants to kill your Mama. :) thankyouverymuch Ernie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:21:56 -0700 (PDT) From: me128 student To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: long-ness;Eve;more FW;primus Message-ID: On Tue, 22 Apr 1997 email_address_removed wrote: > From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" > Subject: long-ness :) > >There's just one thing I don't get, though. What's with the fucking > >alarm clock?:) > > i think its kind of to prevent you from letting yourself slip into the cd > too much after its over, it wakes you up and you can contemplate it on a > freshly awoken mind in a different world. > > or maybe they were worried too many people would fall asleep by part nine :) After I heard it, it occurred that maybe it was meant to say: "HEY YOU!!! The song's OVER!!! You're 30 MINUTES late for school (or work)!!! MOVE YOUR ASS!!!!" Pretty nice move on FW's part...always thinkin' of their fans:). > ------------------------------ > From: Jeremy/John Kube > Subject: Eve, Fates Warning > 1. Why the song was never put on a CD. Just didn't make the cut, I guess...I read somewhere (on this list, I think) that Kevin was kinda miffed that it didn't get on the album. He also wasn't too crazy about the fact that the samples had been left out (the samples are on the Subcon/DoE version). Damn shame. > 2. Why it was written /me shrugs his shoulders Dunno that one > 3. Who wrote it. Easy one...Kevin > ------------------------------ > From: Anton Max > Subject: The alarm clock > > Come on, let's give these guys the sales they deserve. Fates! Fates! > Fates! I agree. Folks, seems to me a CD like this is kinda rare and I think it would "behoove" (hehehe) us all to show some interest in this particular release and to make this interest obvious to others (e.g. record companies) by spending some cash on it. > > ------------------------------ > From: Rahul Ananda > Subject: Primus' new drummer > that Jay is his favorite drummer, ever. However, he wasn't > nearly as impressive on the Sausage CD as Herb is on any > given Primus release. Maybe he'll play differently in the Herb is just a tough act to follow. I'm not saying his drumming is technically super-difficult or anything, he's just got a very distinctive (to me) style that identifies HIM as being the drummer. That, combined with the chops he used to show on the albums makes him a special drummer in my book and I don't think it will be easy to replace him. Younis email_address_removed "If it bleeds, then we can kill it." ---Dutch, "Predator" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 01:30:38 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: long-ness;Eve;more FW;primus Message-ID: me128 student wrote: >Eve, Fates Warning > > 1. Why the song was never put on a CD. > Just didn't make the cut, I guess...I read somewhere (on this list, I > think) that Kevin was kinda miffed that it didn't get on the album. He > also wasn't too crazy about the fact that the samples had been left out > (the samples are on the Subcon/DoE version). Damn shame. > > 2. Why it was written > /me shrugs his shoulders > Dunno that one > > 3. Who wrote it. > Easy one...Kevin > i dont know about that, id have to check the tsm single again because I could swear i saw "music by dream theater".. unlike space dye vest which said music and lyrics by kevin moore.. "At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur. The risk to survival is severe." Ian Malcolm http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 02:04:05 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: DTIFC Message-ID: Hi there everyone....I was just wondering if anyone out there has Neil Elliot's email address. Please write me if you do. Thanks, Jeff E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 02:24:39 -0400 From: Tim To: email_address_removed Subject: My Fates Warning Journey / Winter Rose Message-ID: Well, I marched into my local STRAWBERRIES music store today looking for the new Fates...and to my suprise the guy behind the counter ACTUALLY KNEW WHAT THE HELL I WAS TALKING ABOUT! But he said that it "wasn't on the morning shipment" and would be coming in on the "afternoon truck".... So I went to work, and after 9pm I stopped back only to find out that THEY ONLY GOT ONE..REPEAT ONE...COPY OF aPsoG in for the ENTIRE STORE! That is so pathetic..one copy of that, and 400 copies of the new Spice Girls... What is this world coming to!!! Anyways its great to hear all these great reviews..I'm pretty psyched myself to hear it myself! Next Order of business -- I received my WINTER ROSE CD today from a place called Terrible Ted's Imports out of Michigan: Their homepage is at: http://members.aol.com/terteds/terrible_teds.htm email is email_address_removed So the CD is an import..ONLY released in Japan..Cost me $32.99 + shipping.. but BOY WAS IT WORTH IT! For those of you who love 80's metal/rock this is a fantastic piece of work....And now without further adieu, I reprint (without permission of course :) ) the liner notes from inside: JAMES LABRIE "Hey people, here it is. I can't believe it's over 8 years since Rich and I recorded this material. The band was Winter Rose and without going into detail we came so close to getting signed but it didn't come to fruition. It must of been our Creator's master plan, otherwise I wouldn't be in the greatest band in the world today, Dream Theater (said with the slightest hint of modesty) Well on the subject of DT. I would like to say a few words to the beloved DT fans. Our decision to release this material was based on the fantastic number of fans who had copies of WR in its rawest form. As tribute to your dedication, we cleaned things up a bit and remixed this material for you. Stylistically, it is not DT. --not even close. It is a completly different side of me and another form of expression. Let us not forget that this is the same music that blew the other DT members away and helped to place me as vocalist, which I have proudly been for the first 6 years of many more. Enough said; I hope you enjoy the music. [part paying tribute to his bandmate Rich deleted] To my beloved DT mates --John, Mike, Derek, and John: It's been a great ride so far. This is only the beginning of our ascension to the top of the world's biggest roller coaster. [sentimental part about his wife deleted] TO THE JAMMERS ON-LINE: KEEP JAMMIN'. TAKE CARE AND I HOPE YOU LIKE WHAT YOU HEAR!! -Cheers, James LaBrie... Well, there ya have it! Personally, I like to think I have a 1/1,000,000 th to do with getting this material rereleased. When I saw James on the Awake tour I spoke with him about the WR live tapes I had..we discussed the band, the members, and the music...Anyways, the track listing on this CD has already been posted here, so I won't repeat it..I'll only say that this is an excellent CD, and is as much a part of DT history as any other pre-I+W release... Tim email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 02:30:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Jacktallica Thetfield To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Primus' new drummer Message-ID: > is a guy named Jay Lane. He's on the Sausage CD, one of Claypool's > side projects...However, he wasn't nearly as impressive on the Sausage > CD as Herb is on any given Primus release. Maybe he'll play differently > in the context of Primus. Actually, I thought Sausage was the maiden incarnation of Primus. I saw them open for Helmet and Rollins Band in the summer of 1994, and they were incredibly tight and superior to the time I saw Primus open for Rush during the Counterparts tour. I'd hope that Jay won't play differently "in the context of Primus", and that he will bring his own style to SF's "suckiest" band. It would be like Derek having to play Kevin's keyboard parts note-for-note, with no room for interpretation or originality. Midwest-bound Pachyderm, G. Jack Thetgyi ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "What's Up, Jack?" -Lars Ulrich, to me, before I asked James about the Rayderz; Rockline, 7/96. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 02:37:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Anton Max To: email_address_removed Subject: more apsog Message-ID: parts 7 and 8...good god... is not the first 48 seconds of part 8 the most intense thing you've ever heard? -maximilian Anton Max MadMax+@cmu.edu http://thunderdome.pc.cs.cmu.edu/aepithex.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 02:38:57 EDT From: email_address_removed (Scott Cook) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Zappa song Message-ID: >years, but I believe it's on Sheik, there's a song where Frank >absolutely rips the crap out of the guitar. That sounds like Rat Tomago. My Guitar Wants to Kill Your Mama wasn't on Sheik Yerbouti. Scott "Don't Fool Yourself Girl; it's going right up your poop shoot." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 00:06:33 PST From: email_address_removed (Aaron K. Silverman) To: email_address_removed Subject: Kuul new guitarist Message-ID: Hey, I checked out a free performance by Rob Eberhart Young (Or was it Ron?) at Borders bookstore today. He's apparently playing at a bunch of Borders around the country, so keep your eyes open for it. (Maybe at Barnes & Noble too. . .) He described himself as "I used to be a metal guy, now I'm a new age guy". He repeatedly referred to Wil Ackerman (The founder of Wyndham Hill and now Imaginary Road record labels) to having pulled him out of a "heavy metal garbage can". His music was pretty kuul, it was just him on an acoustic-electric with delay and chorus, new-agey sounding, but with an edge and a straightforwardness to it that comes from his metal background. His cd, Sticks And Stones, is worth checking out, especially those of you in Rick's Yanni/Tesh Fan Club. (He does some duets with Michael Hedges and a few other people on it as well.) Party on, DJ Kuul A ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 97 01:50:18 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" To: email_address_removed Subject: Darkest of Winters... Message-ID: Okay, y'all have my curiosity peaked with the talk of CIA9iTG. How can I get a copy of Darkest of Winters? On another note, I'm going to get rid of Inside Out and pick up PSOG since everyone seems to love it. On yet another note, I just finished removing my makeup after the KISS concert (my ears are ringing like mad), and I can only say that this night has probably been the most exciting night of my life. I'm not a HUGE fan, but these guys just completely RULE in concert, period! And it was only $35 - there a whole lot of concerts that are more expensive than that. -Brian Official KISS Kountdown: T- 2 hours, 27 minutes and Kounting! ***************************** Quote of the Day ********************************* "Being miserable might work for your first album, but once you get your royalties, what are you gonna sing about on your second album? Then all you can do is blow your head off and become a legend." - Paul Stanley of KISS ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 02:06:31 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" To: email_address_removed Subject: Ozz Fest@St. Louis Message-ID: Tickets for Ozz Fest June 10 in St. Louis go on sale this Saturday (April 26). No word on prices for this show, but I imagine it'll be comparable to the other dates. Dale R. Newberry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 00:09:42 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" To: email_address_removed Subject: Crossroads, Vai Message-ID: Hello all, Man, I know I'm behind the times. I just saw "Crossroads" for the first time tonight. Geez, did Vai ever suck? He was playing Bad Horsie's intro riff in the movie. The whole movie was just ass-kicking. Tons of awesome guitar stuff (I'm assuming from Vai himself) all throughout the movie, and the end scene where Ralph Macchio (sp?) "beats" Vai is so damn cool. I'm taping only that part of the movie. That scene is classic. If you haven't seen this movie yet, go check it out. If you like Vai or just the shape of the guitar in general, you'll love this movie. :) Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/6933 | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2493 **************************