YTSEJAM Digest 2462

Today's Topics:

  1) Re: North & South, Rush, etc.
 by The Digital Man <email_address_removed>
  2) Uh, Just gimme the EOJ and shut the fuck up, Ok? :)
 by Jon Parmet <email_address_removed>
  3) You're so full of what is right-justified
 by Jon Parmet <email_address_removed>
  4) Life in the fast lane
 by Jon Parmet <email_address_removed>
  5) THE SHINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <email_address_removed>
  6) Type O Concert (Smallest speck of DTC)
 by Brian <email_address_removed>
  7) Spice Girls/the DT show/Dokken QR bill?
 by "Jeremy C. Hallum" <email_address_removed>
  8) King Crimson original line-up appearing in NYC
 by Jon Parmet <email_address_removed>
  9) Re: Tate and Halford (NDTC)
 by email_address_removed (Scott Cook)
 10) RE: Producer...
 by "Mike Patrick" <email_address_removed>
 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2461
 by durnik <email_address_removed>
 12) 
 by 
 13) Dream Theater WebRing
 by NuGgeTMaN <email_address_removed>
 14) Mighty Morphin Power Strangers
 by Adam Barnhart <email_address_removed>
 15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2457
 by email_address_removed
 16) DT in Milan... and video boot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 by Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si>
 17) What the Phalming Phuq is this all about??
 by Randall Braun <email_address_removed>

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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:07:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <email_address_removed>
To: Multiple recipients of list <email_address_removed>
Subject: Re: North & South, Rush, etc.
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Andrew "Asswipe Johnson" Forcier wrote:

> 	Oh... And did I mention: NEW ENGLAND RULES!!!! Okay, none of the 
> sports teams, just the region...

Man, you've been away waaaaaaaaay too long.  The compared merits of living
in Vermont, and the NYC region:

Vermont:  Maple syrup, cheese, Nine Miles.  (shameless plug mode off. :)
NYC area:  DT shows, Steve Morse on Long Fucking Island (that's just east
of Flushing), real food, people that know how to drive when there are
other cars on the road, the Mets (tonight on ESPN!  Yes!), bars that stay
open later than 2:00 (1:00 on Saturdays - no joke)...  need I go on?

The compared downsides of each area:

Vermont: too long to list everything.  Should I start with the weather?
NYC area: Jughandles (oh, get over it :), the Jets, and that's about all I
can think of.

Can you tell I've been up here too long?  Someone FTP me a pizza.

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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 20:35:43 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Uh, Just gimme the EOJ and shut the fuck up, Ok? :)
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

> From: Michael Lafser <email_address_removed>

> but good god man! the spice girls! come on!
> they were better before they got the sex change and were known
> as new kids on the block

Nice  :)   

And the sex change clinic is, no doubt, in Fucking, New Jersey  <phew>

> From: Chris

> It's not like I ran over your dog with my monster truck (yet).

<In my best Jim Carey voice>   "No one wants to play with me" :)

> From: The other Chris

> Actually, no.  Chris Ptacek doesn't exist. Chris Ptacek was a baby...

Actually, no :) Chris Ptacek is an auto-responder bot. And from what
I've heard, the bugs haven't all worked out of the monster truck's
auto-pilot...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

To all those posting EuroFix reviews, keep 'em coming, folks!!

Between the US and Euro Fix reviews, it would seem that enough of us
like Derek. I guess we'll allow him to stay in the band, eh? :)

Regards,

Jon

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| Jon Parmet | email_address_removed | 617-494-2851 |
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	I believe that what I'm feeling
	Changes how the world appears	- Rush

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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:29:31 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: You're so full of what is right-justified
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

> From: Jim Beavens <email_address_removed>

>   How in the hell do some people get
> ASCII email messages completely right justified without adding any
> extra spaces?  

Try using a PowerPC, Jim

Just couldn't pass it up

:)

JP
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| Jon Parmet | email_address_removed | 617-494-2851 |
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	I believe that what I'm feeling
	Changes how the world appears	- Rush

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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:40:02 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Life in the fast lane
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

> From: The Force!

>   Not to mention that the Parkway seems to have the slow lane all 
> the way on the left and the fast lane on the right.

Sounds like just about any road up here to me ;)

Regards,

Jon

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| Jon Parmet | email_address_removed | 617-494-2851 |
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	I believe that what I'm feeling
	Changes how the world appears	- Rush

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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:46:23 -0500
From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: THE SHINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Okay. If you're a fan of Stephen King, and "The Shining" in particular,
point your web browser NOW to http://www.abc.com/theshining/index.html
Not only is it informative, it is an extremely well-done site (IMO). The
miniseries, which clocks in at 275 minutes, will air on ABC (duh) April
27, April 28, and May 1. I wouldn't have posted this, but several people
emailed me privately the first time I mentioned this, and I don't
remember all of the names, and I don't want anyone to feel left out :)

Mark

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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:50:43 -0700
From: Brian <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Type O Concert (Smallest speck of DTC)
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Hey, I caught Type O last night in Poughkeepsie at the Chance, and they
really were excellent. I'll keep this short because it's not the TON
mailing list. However, I did get to meet Johnny, Josh and Peter after
the show, and they were three of the nicest guys I've met. They made a
lot of realy funny jokes and even sang Happy Birthday to my girlfriend.
Anyway, Remember how Derek said "Why don't they just bring me their
Elvis albums to sign? I didn't play on them either"? Well I felt bad
because I had to get out of the house quick and forgot my October Rust
CD. I did have Bloody Kisses on me, but Johnny Kelly wasn't the drummer
back then. When he signed it, I asked "Don't you mind signing an album
you didn't play on?" He responed with "No way. I still get paid for it!"
So there you go. If anyone has any questions about the show, mail me
privately.
 
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:53:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Jeremy C. Hallum" <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Spice Girls/the DT show/Dokken QR bill?
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>



> From: Jim Beavens <email_address_removed>
> Subject: Re: 5 really bad female singers
> 
> >> they were better before they got the sex change and were known
> >> as new kids on the block
> >
> >New Kids??  I thought the Spice Girls were Menudo in their past
> >incarnations.
> 
> When we saw them on SNL, my wife and I agreed they were a cross
> between En Vogue wannabes and the Village People...whatever they
> were, gawd were they bad...

	Yeah, I've never heard of them until I saw them on SNL this 
weekend.  Just terrible.   There are some lookers there, but the music is 
just the same old recycled R&B.  Ick.  Will it ever die?

> ------------------------------
> 
> From: The Digital Man <email_address_removed>
> Subject: Re: Dream Theater in Amsterdam !
> 
> On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Mark Bredius wrote:
> 
> >    about 10 minutes after the show started. Still, it would have been
> >    so much cooler, if I had been able to see them with the guys I was
> >    supposed to meet. Missed my last chance to meet U-dAZ face 2 face.
> 
> Man, I hate to see stuff like this.  We're generally so tight-knit as a
> group online, that it's just that much cooler to meet in person.
> 
> My recommendations for all jammers going to the upcoming shows:

You forgot:
	5)  Yell "D-Man!", or "Skadz!" a lot in front of the stage.  Sooner or 
later people will figure out what the hell is going on, and start 
gathering.

> ------------------------------
> 
> From: email_address_removed (Jeffrey Falk)
> 
>         To everyone who doesn't ignore my posts (all two of you): I intern
> at a college radio show, and my DJ will be gone this weekend.  So the show
> is mine.  Not that anybody will listen, but I thought it would be nice to
> have Dream Theater as the artist of the week (he has a featured artist on
> his show each week).  I'm open to suggestions of what to play and/or how to
> approach it.

	Dang!  This is so cool!  Go for it!  This is WABU, right?  What 
time!  I think I can finangle my stereo to get that for a while.  Hmm... 
gotta play:
	PMU, Another Day, Take the Time, Eve, Caught in A Web, Wait For 
Sleep/Learning to Live,  UNder a Glass Moon, Ystejam, and for a closer, 
Scarred!  
	I can't wait to hear it!


> ------------------------------
> 
> From: King of the Ytsejam <email_address_removed>
> Subject: JAPANESE JAMMERS (Dokken Japan tour dates)
> 
> Hi!
> 
> This came from the Dokken list.
> 
> >There was an announcement of Dokken's Japan Tour.
> 

	Big furry rumor:  Is Dokken opening for QR?  Inquiring rychers wanna 
know! :)

					-jeremy




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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 20:53:16 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: King Crimson original line-up appearing in NYC
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Attention King Crimson fans in the NYC area. Check out:

http://www.artist-shop.com/bulletin.htm


Regards,

Jon

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| Jon Parmet | email_address_removed | 617-494-2851 |
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	I believe that what I'm feeling
	Changes how the world appears	- Rush

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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:44:33 EDT
From: email_address_removed (Scott Cook)
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: Tate and Halford (NDTC)
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 09:54:26 -0700 (PDT) email_address_removed.it writes:

>I think Geoff Tate is much better than Rob Halford! Even though 
>Halford has a good voice, he can't stand the heights reached by Tate.

Victim Of Changes, The Ripper, Beyond The Realms of Death.

I could go on but I'll stop there for now.

Scott

ps. Tate is awesome & I don't mean to diss him, but Rob had
an incredible voice. Too bad he can't hit em like he used to.

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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:59:32 -0000
From: "Mike Patrick" <email_address_removed>
To: <email_address_removed>
Subject: RE: Producer...
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

>Could it be Kevin Shirley that Myung was referring to?
>(Silverchair - Frogstomp, Aerosmith - Nine Lives)

NO!!!!!!!!!!!  Don't get me wrong, despite what you may think of either of
the aforementioned bands, these recordings sound PHAT, but, man, Paul
Northfield was supposed to do it.  What happened?  I mean, anyone who's had
a close association with Queensryche AND I Mother Earth has to be a
sentimental favorite of mine, and the only person on Earth who can squeeze
more of the sound spectrum onto tape besides Northfield is Bob Rock (maybe)
and Rupert Hine (despite the vile things that most Rush fans like to say of
him.)

Guess what?  I'm rambling...

Mike
email_address_removed


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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:00:50 -0700 (MST)
From: durnik <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2461
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Hi all!! A few quickie replies...


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	Right on man!! That night 12/29/95 at the Birch Hill was a part of
Dream Theater history, and anyone that was there realized it.

> Don't sweat it.  I inferred from Mike that everything will eventually be
> released in one way or another, whether it's a double, or a single and
> ep's, or a single and imports, or a single and fan club cd's, or whatever.
> Remember, this is an INFERENCE and not fact.  Just my gut feeling.

	Don't get your hopes up about this, folks.

And from Rip, the cowmeister,
> well, i GOT IT TODAY!@  now i wont have to kill myself in relapse.
> Packaging-ly speaking, this is bahr's best work.. content-ly speaking, this
> is bahr's tied best work with AD :)  sound-quality-speaking, this also ties
> with AD :)
> first of all, IT FINALLY SAYS "DREAM THEATER"!  WOO HOO!  second, the back
> cover of the cd is very nice, threw in a picture of the band and added some
> kick to it.  and scotchman's cover, as always, puts the cherry on top.  
> i'll be back after a few listens about the tunes on it i'm sure :)

	As you can all imagine, I am quite excited about a reception such
as this one!! :)

- Mike Bahr - email_address_removed - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik


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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:08:08 -0500 (EST)
From: NuGgeTMaN <email_address_removed>
To: Multiple recipients of list <email_address_removed>
Subject: Dream Theater WebRing
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Alrighty here's yet ANOTHER plug for the Web-Ring! We still need more
sites in the ring!!!! It's almost totally effortless, fun, exciting, and
it means more hits for your DT Webpage!!! Check us out at
http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN/lift.html or by checking out one of the
other WAY cool DT pages in the ring such as:
http://www.rsabbs.com/dt
http://www.dreamt.org
http://www.gmsnet.com/progmetal/

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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:09:56 -0700
From: Adam Barnhart <email_address_removed>
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Mighty Morphin Power Strangers
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

>From: Jon Parmet <email_address_removed>
>
>> From: Adam
>
>> but there, again, is a significant base of progressive
>> music fans (try beating this topic around on r.m.p) 
>
>Repeat after me: USENET is NOT the real world, USENET is NOT the real
>world

I dunno, Jon...I'm not talking
alt.binaries.erotica.necrophilia.pink-ranger.barney or something.  I'm
talking about the Usenet group (groups, actually, as I'm talking more about
my experience of a.m.p....I don't spend a lot of time over there now)
dedicated specifically to fans of progressive music, whatever the hell that
actually is.  And what I'm saying is that this limited segment of a
self-defining community contains a number of people who feel as though we're
somehow blaspheming the word "progressive" if we apply it to Rush or Dream
Theater.  I would argue that both bands are well within the generally agreed
upon standards of progressivity. My own personal feeling is that
Soundgarden, the band that got me on this track anyhow, also might fit into
some possible progressive schema.  But, in defense of Usenet, I can't see a
reason why we should view the opinions expressed here as having any more
weight or validity.  So there's that...

>> who don't find Dream
>> Theater a particularly progressive band, either, and think that any time
>> you take a band that combines progressivity with other musical stylings
>> (Pink Floyd, Rush, Dream Theater), you're doing a disservice to the
>> concept of progressive music. 
>
>But, but, I don't see how you can't combine it if you're going to use
>the word in the musical sense. It has to be progressive <insert some
>genre here>, don't it? I understand its usage in the context of
>describing a band as progressive ("going where no one has gone before")
>but I use the word to describe the music sense Keith Emerson style

Well, there certainly IS a progressive jazz, a progressive rock, a
progressive metal.  What's Brand X?  Progressive FUSION?!  What about
Queensryche, who's really wandered in and out of more or less metallic
sounds.  I think the people I'm speaking of come from a progressive ROCK
background and AREN'T really willing to describe anything METAL as
progressive.  It's something like the problem of crossover.  COC, Iron
Maiden, and Slayer all have some combination of punk and metal roots, to
varying degrees.  But punk music is very anti-classic rock, traditionally,
where metal can be seen as having grown out of that tradition.  What happens
when they run into each other?  And what happens when it's fusion running
into death metal, like Cynic?  I'm pretty liberal in applying the
progressive label....I think King's X can safely be described as somewhat
progressive.  Maiden is a metal band, albeit with strong tendencies towards
progressivity.  Ozric Tentacles is progressive.  "...And Justice For All" is
a progressive record, in my opinion.  And a healthy dose of Fusion can
probably be placed somewhere is the world of prog.  At its heart, I think
we're talking about Yes, Genesis, ELP, and the Canterbury bands.  Rush and
Tull changed its shape a little.  Progressive metal, I think, is a different
sort of beast.  Which is why I still think it's a mistake to throw out a
discussion of metal and hard rock sounds here, since Dream Theater is, to my
ears, as much a post-Metallica band as a post-Yes band.

Five Gratuitous CD's:
=====================
1.  Rush: Power Windows
2.  Yellowjackets: Dreamland
3.  Steve Vai: Passion and Warfare
4.  Alice in Chains: Sap
5.  Massive Attack: Blue Lines

Adam D. Barnhart
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:24:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2457
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

whats up fellow jammers!  I'm just wondering about new info on either the new
album or even finding some bootlegs (like DOE). I am new to the list, and It
seems pretty cool, so keep it up. If any of you could mail me (at
email_address_removed) any info on the new album, or anything else important it
would be appreciated. Thank,s a lot, and may the Josta be with you!!!!

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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 00:35:07 +0200
From: Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si>
To: "No religion,just music and DT" <email_address_removed>
Subject: DT in Milan... and video boot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <3354029B.25C6@uni-mb.si>

<HTML><BODY>
To all italian jammers who were in Milan...
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm looking for some info on that video boot. You know...
if it's already available...
<BR>
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hope to hear from you soon...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!&nbsp;
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>And for all of others who can't stand this:
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I like Alice in Chains(especially album called FACELIFT);
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I like Metallica and Megadeth;
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I like Mozart, Bach, Vivaldi, Paganini, Smetana;
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and I even Gary Moore when I'm sad...
<BR>
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Heheheeheheheheheheheeh...&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<BR>I'm a listener not a flamer...
<BR>
<BR>--&nbsp;
<BR>Sebastjan Videc aka StDeVil on IRC
<BR>Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si
<BR>
<BR>&nbsp;&lt;&lt;- And from an Ivory tower hears her call
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Let the light surround you!!! -&gt;&gt;
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Kevin Moore
<BR>
<BR>

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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:22:41 -0500
From: Randall Braun <email_address_removed>
To: "'email_address_removed'" <email_address_removed>
Subject: What the Phalming Phuq is this all about??
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=GE%l=AMERIDATA/ADNC/message_id_removed>

Quoth 2461...On the Eve of Destruction, Randall Braun said:
..
>Please resend anything requiring a personal reply as my personal system 
was
>down, and our corporate system T1 connections were temporarily down due to 
>the weather/flood problems in Minnesota. I do not think I'll have time to 
>read much of the backload of personal email now sitting in my mailbox.
>

This is asking for trouble on the jam... hehehe
Go get im boyz!!

REPLY:::: WHAT THE FLAMING FUCK IS THIS ALL ABOUT?????

I had posted something that may have required a reply to me. I just wanted 
whoever, if anyone, to know that I wasn't ignoring their replies. If some 
Y'Jammers are resorting to prionic idiocy, maybe they should go over the 
Ban Heflen List.

-Randall
email: 	email_address_removed
**"I'm looking California and feeling Minnesota" from "Outshined" by 
Soundgarden**


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