YTSEJAM Digest 2456 Today's Topics: 1) Stuph... by Andrew Forcier 2) John Petrucci in Sweden! by Kristoffer Sundberg 3) G3 Summer Tour, etc. by Andrew Forcier 4) Screaming in Digital, Cooking in German by Adam Barnhart 5) FREE CD ! *please read* by email_address_removed (Scott Cook) 6) Stuff by Soul Madness 7) DT in Brazil? by email_address_removed.br 8) Derek mentioned by korg by Todd 9) Re: Stuff by Albert Balkiewicz 10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2455 by email_address_removed 11) everything's right with the world after all! by email_address_removed (Scott Cook) 12) DT in Brazil by email_address_removed.br 13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2455 by Ed Reed 14) Progressive band by NuGgeTMaN 15) Newbie's Requests for Dismissal by "KorgX3" 16) KJLB and ND by CLARK ABEL 17) My daily ramble by "KorgX3" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:01:21 -0700 From: Andrew Forcier To: email_address_removed Subject: Stuph... Message-ID: Hiya... Just thought I'd post a few thoughts: >I'm confused, can anyone tell me where *fucking* New Jersey is? No confusion really: the proper name is "goddamn mother fucking New Jersey". It's an easy mistake to make unless you live there. :) Can anyone send me # 2452 and 2453. More stupid server problems. I hate this phreaqing thing. But then again, if a No Doubt thread came up in those issues, I don't know if I really want them...:P INXS was sold out and the bloodsucking brokers wanted $75!!! Here's hoping I win the website contest! Andrew, or as my friends know me: BUCK STODGERS!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:10:55 +0200 From: Kristoffer Sundberg To: email_address_removed Subject: John Petrucci in Sweden! Message-ID: Hello! I just read in a swedish newspaper that John Petrucci is going to play on the pub Dojan, which is in Gothenburg, on the 21 of April. It also says he plays in Stockholm the day after. I don't know where though. I couldn't belive this when I saw it, it's great! I haven't seen DT live. I guess this is as close as I'll get to it untill the next album comes out. Maybe I'll see some of you there. Well.. seya! Kristoffer Sundberg. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:17:45 -0700 From: Andrew Forcier To: email_address_removed Subject: G3 Summer Tour, etc. Message-ID: Hello! And I almost forgot. The G3 boys are starting a tour in the middle of June, only it won't just be the G3 boys. They are looking to gather in the neighborhood of SEVEN of today's finest for the festival, which will be in outdoor venues. HEY GUYS: GET NUNO!!!!! Yeah right... What they have in mind is diversifying things also to get a more eclectic group. Who knows, maybe BB King will be there! Also there is a live disc coming out that's a combination of four shows. They did some overdubs so of course, it's not true to form. Songs on it will include Manhattan, Cool #9, and Answers, along with the jams at the end. Am I the only one would would rather do without overdubs? It pissed me off to find out that there were some on ACOS. I knew it sounded too good. Oh, and all of this info came from the latest Guitar World which reprinted the tab for Cheap Trick's Surrender for the THIRD TIME. And no, I didn't buy it. Goddamn profiteering moneygrubbers... Andrew, or as my friends know me: BUCK STODGERS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:23:09 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart To: email_address_removed Subject: Screaming in Digital, Cooking in German Message-ID: It was a dark and stormy night... I don't think that I'd identify Soundgarden as a Progressive band, in the traditional sense...but there, again, is a significant base of progressive music fans (try beating this topic around on r.m.p) who don't find Dream Theater a particularly progressive band, either, and think that any time you take a band that combines progressivity with other musical stylings (Pink Floyd, Rush, Dream Theater), you're doing a disservice to the concept of progressive music. My own definition of "progressive" music is more omnivorous, which is why I made a case for Iron Maiden a while back as a band that has progressive tendencies. Soundgarden I would also consider in this category. And I'll take up a couple of criticisms of the band: A healthy portion of the band's legacy was created by people who WEREN'T Cornell and Thayll. Hiro Yamamoto certainly was a force in the band prior to "Badmotorfinger," when he was replaced by Ben Sheppard, who wrote my personal favorite, "Slaves and Bulldozers." Matt Cameron is another story entirely....he is extremely well-received by the drumming community and is generally seen as one of the best of the "new" crop of drummers (if we can call someone who's been visible for more than a decade "new"). He's a tremendous talent. As to Cornell's vocal stylings -- an abrasive sound, which he certainly DOES use from time to time, is not necessarily one which is out of tune...Cornell's a phenomenal singer, effective in a number of environments. There was a post a few digests back (apologies to the person who nailed this one on the head) arguing that criticizing Queensryche for changing "their sound" is one which is, generally, misfounded, as they haven't really established one consistent sound during their career. "Empire" was radically different from "Operation: Mindcrime." And "Mindcrime" certainly has a different sound than "Rage for Order." Incidentally, I'd say "Rage for Order" is a "progressive" album, but I would say that both "Operation: Mindcrime" and "The Warning" are more so...and that "The Warning" is the real overlooked gem in the Queensryche catalog. And I'll agree with Mike's assessment of "Chasing Amy." Hell of a movie....go and hunt that baby down! Kevin Smith is just a tremendous filmmaker. Five Gratutitous CD's: ====================== 1. Rush: Rush 2. Lost Souls: Howlin' at the Moon 3. Go Pound Salt: Go Pound Salt 4. The Reign: Back From Euphoria 5. Jamiroquai: Traveling Without Moving Adam D. Barnhart email_address_removed email_address_removed http://www.cfmc.com/adamb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:09:51 EDT From: email_address_removed (Scott Cook) To: email_address_removed, email_address_removed, email_address_removed, Subject: FREE CD ! *please read* Message-ID: Hi, I have a friend that sings in a local SF Area band called *Zero Hour* and back in 1994 they put out a self-titled CD. I talked to him last week and he gave me a copy to listen to and fi I liked it let people know because he has a few hundred laying around the house and would be willing to give out copies to anyone who wants them. Well, I really like these guys, my friends vocals are good. Not the caliber of someone like James LaBrie or Geoff Tate, but pretty good none the less. The guitar work absolutely smokes on this album. I won't say the guy's as good as say George Lynch, but he has the same playing style. This is *definitely* a *metal* band. If you'd like a free CD of Zero Hour then send a Self Addressed Stamped Envelope to me at the below address and I'll make sure to get one out to you. You can have as many as you want *within reason*, but remember to have enough postage to cover the shipment. Also, we don't have any padded envelopes so please remember to include whatever you want the CD(s) shipped in. Thanks for you time Y'all :-) Zero Hour CD P.O. Box 64165 Sunnyvale, CA 94043-1538 *************************************************************************** I'm afraid of Americans; I'm afraid of the world. I'm afraid I can't help it; I'm afraid I can't. *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 97 17:58 EDT From: Soul Madness To: email_address_removed Subject: Stuff Message-ID: Spice Girls- yeah, I love them. Seriously. Guess it makes me strange to love bands as far out from Dream Theater to Spice Girls to Carcass to Ramones. Speaking of No Doubt, another cool song I hear on the radio goes "and you just don't get it, keep me copastetic and you learn to accept it, you know your so pathedic"... Anyone know who this is and what CD its on. I really want the CD- its another one of the alternative bands I love. Just got a new QR boot from...gasp...Tunnel Records. Silent Lucidity- MTV Unplugged/Live In Amsterdam. Haven't heard it yet..wisdom teeth just got pulled out- extreme pain meaning I must go. Don ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 18:46:10 -0300 From: email_address_removed.br To: email_address_removed Subject: DT in Brazil? Message-ID: Andr้, YT>------------------------------ YT>From: "Andre Luiz Machado" YT>Subject: BACKSTAGE PASS IN BRAZIL SHOW!!! YT>I NEED this pass... I'm a fanatic fan... YT>All my life is dedicated to Dream Theater... YT>I have all official material(CD's videos) + many bootlegs CD's and --------------------------------- etc,etc,etc followed by another message. Man, you need help. You REALLY need. Is it really confirmed that they'll come? And, even if it is, we're in April 14th. Monsters of Rock will be only in the end of August. Relax, man! []'s Marcelo Vanzin Sใo Paulo - Brasil email_address_removed.br email_address_removed http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/ อออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออ DarkStar Multimidia BBs Telnet: dks.com.br Fone +55 011 870-1888 Internet, Gameconection, Games, ShareWare Fone/Fax +55 011 870-3444 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:25:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd To: ytsejam Subject: Derek mentioned by korg Message-ID: derek is mentioned as a korg trinity user on korg's new web page, along with a lot of other cool musicians who use the trinity. check it out at: www.korg.com and go to what's new, then to press releases. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 18:42:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Balkiewicz To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Stuff Message-ID: > > Spice Girls- yeah, I love them. Seriously. Guess it makes me strange to love > bands as far out from Dream Theater to Spice Girls to Carcass to Ramones. aah, you just like 'em cuz they're cuties..... > > Speaking of No Doubt, another cool song I hear on the radio goes "and you > just don't get it, keep me copastetic and you learn to accept it, you know > your so pathedic"... Anyone know who this is and what CD its on. I really > want the CD- its another one of the alternative bands I love. > the band is called Local H.....I think the album is self-titled, but I'm not sure................ soon to come.....what everyone's been waiting for...... the Half Naked Web Page......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -Al -- @#%^$#%^#$&#%%$&#$%^#$%^#$%&#$%^&#$%^&#$%&#$%&#$%&#$%&#$%&#$%^&%$ | | | See me gone and persevere.... | | Condescending when you label me Judas.... | | | #$%^#%&#%^$*%&*^&*%&(%^&(%^&*(%^&*(*%^&*$^&*#^%&#^*$%^&*#%^&*#$%& | Al Balkiewicz SEND MAIL HERE -->balkiewi @ njmsa.umdnj.edu | | OR HERE! --->DA_PROF @ BIGFOOT.COM | %@#$^@#$^@^%%$&#$&^*$%&*$&*$%^$&$%^&$%^*$^%&*$%^&*$%^*$%^&%$^&%$% ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:24:58 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2455 Message-ID: In a message dated 4/14/97 17:49:43, digital panty-sniffer wrote: >On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Chris Oates wrote: > >> Fucking, New Jersey? Is that like Flushing, New York? (I think it's in NY) > >Something like that. You see, the Damned Jets moved from Flushing, NY to >Fucking, NJ. (Of course, the Fucking Mets still play in Flushing.) i almost pissed on myself when i read that. that was pretty fucking hilarious. ytsegoon ("if ya wanna be my lover, ya gotta git wit my friends") not quite fucking, just a fucknut ********************************************************************** david yoichi kobayashi: binghamton university email_address_removed email_address_removed the goon patrol- funk for people with 47 chormosomes ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:32:19 EDT From: email_address_removed (Scott Cook) To: email_address_removed Subject: everything's right with the world after all! Message-ID: *************************************************************************** I'm afraid of Americans; I'm afraid of the world. I'm afraid I can't help it; I'm afraid I can't. On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Albert Balkiewicz writes: > soon to come.....what everyone's been waiting for...... > > the Half Naked Web Page......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whew! For a second there I thought he was going to say he was sending Pat the tapes he owes him. I've been here for almost 20 months now and I think if he ever did send Pat the tapes I'd have a stroke, or the sky would probably fall in. }:-) Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:15:34 -0300 From: email_address_removed.br To: email_address_removed Subject: DT in Brazil Message-ID: Hey jammerz! YT>---------------------------------------------------------------------- YT>From: "Bruno Stort" YT>Subject: Brazilian Show YT>As everybody said, I know that Monsters Of Rock is not the kind of show YT>that DT likes to play and is not the kind of show that I like to see. The YT>sound probably will be terrible. And the size of the show is far away of a Probably not, it WILL be terrible. I'm still waiting to see a band playing there with a good song. Nad I cant't forget Edu Ardanuy's (Dr. Sin) anger in MOR'94 when his amps turned off just when he started a solo... :) YT>again, to a real gig. Then I'll be REAL happy. and I thought that put DT YT>with Manowar as headliner is a kind of disrespect, cuz when I've read this YT>news, on the headlines was written: "Monsters Of Rock, with Manowar, Judas YT>Priest, Dio, Whitesnake and others...". Dream Theater is much Now you're being selfish. DT is by far my favorite band, but that does not mean that other bands (and, as these ones, much older ones than DT) HAVE to have less fans than DT, or have to be treated with less respect. They're selling a festival, not a DT gig. It's more interesting for them to sell the names of Manowar, Judas, Dio or Whitesnake, cause probably they have more fans around here than DT. But that does not mean DT is being disrespected. YT>------------------------------ YT>From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." YT>Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2.452 * 10^3 YT>Heheh, I think it will be interesting to see who plays the fewest songs YT>in YT>40 minutes. Between DT and Type O, that's a toss-up :) Now, something I wanted to see was Type O, DT and Fates Warning playing together in this MOR. :) Imagine Fates: they play TIGOD, and it's half the show... :) Then thay play less than half of the new song-album, and it's over... :) []'s Marcelo Vanzin Sใo Paulo - Brasil email_address_removed.br email_address_removed http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/ อออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออออ DarkStar Multimidia BBs Telnet: dks.com.br Fone +55 011 870-1888 Internet, Gameconection, Games, ShareWare Fone/Fax +55 011 870-3444 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:39:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Ed Reed To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2455 Message-ID: > From: "Andre Luiz Machado" > Subject: BACKSTAGE PASS IN BRAZIL SHOW!!! > > How can I obtain the pass to the backstage show in Brazil??? > > I NEED this pass... I'm a fanatic fan... > All my life is dedicated to Dream Theater... > I have all official material(CD's videos) + many bootlegs CD's and > videos... > I play guitar too and I have the transcriptions books and the instructional > video... > Anything of DT that appears in front of me... I BUY... Without any care... [rest deleted] Sheesh man, chill... Yes, Dream Theater is a very talented band... Yes, all of us on this list are pretty fond of their music... Yes, many of us that have gotten the chance to meet the guys say good things about them... But you know, they are just human beings like the rest of us (well, excluding the aliens and mixed species among us). Being a fan of a band and showing them some respect for their art is a good thing... being fanatical to the degree that you just showed in your post is a bit much though. Here's a hint: try branching out into hobbies besides starting your own Dream Theater cult. Anyone think that it's people like this that give 'fans' a bad name when they meet a band member and drool/spooge on them and then try to rip the shirt of their back as a souvenir? Sheesh... I'm hoping this guys message just got garbled a bit in translation. DrX P.S. Quick note: Everyone's recommendations about Angra are worth heeding. I finally picked up a copy of Holy Land about a week ago and this is a beautifully orchestrated album. Anyone that likes their music with some depth should check this band out. /-------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Fool-proof method for sculpting an elephant: first, get a huge block of | | marble; then chip away everything that doesn't look like an elephant. | \-------------------------------------------------------------------------/ \------ Ed : email_address_removed, email_address_removed ---------------/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:44:31 -0500 (EST) From: NuGgeTMaN To: email_address_removed Subject: Progressive band Message-ID: Check out a new Progressive group from San Fransisco (I think) called Mindcage by visiting http://www.mindcage.com/ _*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* ^ According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats: ^ ^ If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) ^ ^ (i.e. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major ^ ^ would have 4 sharps. ^ ^ Statistics show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances ^ ^ are they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :) ^ ^ ^ ^ "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke) ^ ^ ^ ^ Eric Moegling: email_address_removed ^ ^ email_address_removed ^ ^ ^ ^ HOMEPAGE - http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN or http://opeckie.base.org ^ ^_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_^ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 18:43:37 +0000 From: "KorgX3" To: email_address_removed Subject: Newbie's Requests for Dismissal Message-ID: > YOU CANNOT ESCAPE!!! YOU WILL ETERNALLY RECEIVE E-MAIL FROM US. WE ARE > THE VOODOO E-MAIL DOCTORS OF THE INTERNET. > > Perhaps it's time to refresh everyone's memory on how to remove themselves > from the list. (I hope this dipshit reads this mail at least... cause I > find it amusing so I won't mail him privately... haha). You are an ass, chum. :) No offense, but I've been taking care of these guys who want removed by PRIVATELY sending them POLITE instructions on how to remove themselves from the list. Yes, I was even polite to the "You mother-fuckers get me the fuck off of here" guy. I did make public fun of him, cuz he deserved it. :) This guy didn't though. Way to spread positive ideals about the band when the whole mailing list is full of assholes. (And we know we all are.) I'm covering these people, kewlness? :) "Idle hands are the Devil's advocate. Keep busy thine hands and forbid the Devil into thy lustful desires!" --Bishop Maynard on the subject of self arrousal. "KorgX3" email_address_removed http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:55:01 -0500 (EST) From: CLARK ABEL To: email_address_removed Subject: KJLB and ND Message-ID: Just in case anyone still cares, there's an interview (I think I have a copy somewhere) where James explains where the ND shirt came from, I think Barney gave it to him, but he says that at the time they shot that video he had never even heard ND, and it didn't sound like he was kidding. He may have checked them out since then, though. I'll remember to ask him next time he calls. -Clark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:13:07 +0000 From: "KorgX3" To: email_address_removed Subject: My daily ramble Message-ID: Chaos Theory kicks ASS! I don't see a DT clone in these guys at all. Pretty oddball, and strange kewl stuff. The first song sounds Enchant-like to me and you can see the DT influence, but nothing as far as a cloning operation. > As much as whatsername professes that her songs are about her life, I > hear very little real emotion.......also....SHE CAN'T SING FOR SHIT! > "Don't Speak" has to have some of the ost off-pitch singing on radio > today. I hear that song endlessly at my gym re:house stereo...I > constantly cringe and think "you're flat! you're flat!" I really don't like em either. I don't see anything great about them. I've not listened to but two or three songs, and while they are kinda catchy, they really don't do a thing for me. Most of the people I know who bought the album bought it "Cuz the singer's a babe." I think I'll go buy that Dream Theater CD since the singer's got a nice butt. (Or just "go wipe my ass with it" to quote the late Sam Kinneson (however it's speeled)). :) Here's a new thread for everyone! If you could clone a member of DT for yourself, who would it be? Mine would be James for personal reasons... (Actually my Petrucci clone is on backorder. Seems everyone is getting these) > I NEED this pass... I'm a fanatic fan... > All my life is dedicated to Dream Theater... > I have all official material(CD's videos) + many bootlegs CD's and > videos... I play guitar too and I have the transcriptions books and > the instructional video... Anything of DT that appears in front of > me... I BUY... Without any care... This is the best band of the > world and I need to obtain this backstage!!! Or anything else, like > an interview at hotel, show the city to them, a lunch or dinner with > them... Something of them... Sounds like a typical ytsejammer to me. :) Don your ytsejam shirt and face Long Island, my friend. Give 3 hail ytsejams and you will receive your augury. BTW, I've got some of Kevin Moore's old toenail clippings. The street value of these has gone down a bit since they're still slightly radioactive from the chemo and especially since he left the band. Mebbe they'll go up after the Fates album goes out. :) Any bids? > derek is mentioned as a korg trinity user on korg's new web page, > along with a lot of other cool musicians who use the trinity. check > it out at: > > www.korg.com I must say, it's about fu*king time someone dedicated a site to me. I was beginning to grow impatient. :) I'm there. :) Hail Ytsejam! Hail Ytsejam! Hail Ytsejam! "Idle hands are the Devil's advocate. Keep busy thine hands and forbid the Devil into thy lustful desires!" --Bishop Maynard on the subject of self arrousal. "KorgX3" email_address_removed http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2456 **************************