YTSEJAM Digest 2435 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Marilyn Manson... by email_address_removed (Scott Cook) 2) Re: marilyn manson by matt rosin 3) Re: marilyn Manson by The Digital Man 4) RE: time sigs by Mark Hatch-Miller 5) Clinic by Richard Warren 6) I just heard a couple of strange rumors... by "KorgX3" 7) Re: Time Signatures, Clinics by "KorgX3" 8) YAOTM? by Steve Borzilleri 9) "The Spirit of Radio" by Glenn Pillsbury 10) Mo' Clinics by Steve Borzilleri 11) other bands by email_address_removed 12) Geetar mags, sexual intercourse by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." 13) Stratosphere by Cygnus 14) Re: other bands by email_address_removed.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara) 15) Guitar mags, Manson, etc... by Andrew Forcier 16) Saigon Kick Information by Andrew Forcier 17) HA! by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 00:16:43 EDT From: email_address_removed (Scott Cook) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Marilyn Manson... Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Apr 1997 19:41:03 -0700 (PDT) email_address_removed (Shane Liebling) writes: >. As far as I know, MM is not the guy from Wonder Years, but is >in actuallity the guy who played the older brother in Mr. Belvedeare. >His name is Brian something I think, I just checked this book I have on all TV shows produced between 1946-1995, and for Mr. Belvedere The older boy (Kevin) was played by Rob Stone and the younger boy (Wesley) was played by Brice Beckham. The ages of teh characters were 16 & 8 respectively. Scott ******************************************************************************************* In the year 2000, Aunt Jemima and Mrs. Butterworth will tarnish their image by admitting that they've "Tasted each others' syrup." Conan O'Brien April 1, 1997. ******************************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 23:47:18 -0500 (CDT) From: matt rosin To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: marilyn manson Message-ID: >In regards to the is paul from the wonder years Marilyn Manson.. Yes it is >paul from the wonder years. He is marilyn Manson. don't believe everything you read. let me re-emphasize this... MM is *NOT* paul from the wonder years. i actually know someone who went to the same high school as MM did, and i can assure you MM is NOT paul from the wonder years. i used to know his actual name, but i have since forgotten it. it is shocking how easily people buy into bullshit rumors... here are a few others for you... michael and janet jackson.. they're the same person... michael jackson and diana ross... they're the same person... neil peart has cancer... alex lifson has cancer... geddy lee has cancer... neil peart had AIDS... kevin moore has testicular cancer... those sound familiar? as a wise man once said, "you should go through life with a built-in shit-detector". sorry for the off-topic post, but come on, people... don't swallow rumours as truth. more often than not, they're bullshit. such is the case here. -matt. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ m a t t r o s i n / email_address_removed s u r r e a l i t y / http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape/ darketherealambient / po box 864, college station, tx 77841-0864 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 00:58:34 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: marilyn Manson Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Apr 1997 email_address_removed wrote: > In regards to the is paul from the wonder years Marilyn Manson.. Yes it is > paul from the wonder years. He is marilyn Manson. He got bored with his life > after the show and went to school. He dicided he needed excitement in his > life and came up with this character. He's doing better now than he ever did. > I saw this on a television show. Ohhhhh, so it *must* be true. I saw this show once where fat guys in spandex were rolling around in a boxing ring. At first I didn't believe that they were really getting hurt, but since I saw it on tv, well... OK, thanks for clearing that up. I have to go back to shaving Portnoy's head for the upcoming tour. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster email_address_removed "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn email_address_removed /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 22:20:33 -0700 From: Mark Hatch-Miller To: "email_address_removed" Subject: RE: time sigs Message-ID: >When I play "hextuplets" in 4/4 time, when each count of "four" beats has >ended, I have played a total of twelve notes. I refer to these as "twelfth >notes" because there are twelve of them in a measure. I don't know who >created the first methods of counting time or who decided that Western >music would be divided primarily by the number 2 (with a little help from >brother 3), but if the phenomenon of having eight notes per measure is >called "eighth notes" and the phenomenon of having sixteen notes per >measure is called "sixteenth notes," then twelve notes per measure simply >equals "twelfth notes." Last time I checked, hex means six.. and in 4/4 time, that would equal 24 notes, not 12.. just wanted to clear that up. : ) You make a good arguement, and it makes sense to me, but the musical powers that be have determined that (at least in typical, tradition music theory) hextuplets in 4/4 time are NOT 12th notes. This is ONLY true because half notes, whole notes, quarter notes, and 16th notes have an assigned value, and are not affected by meter, while "twelfth notes" do not have an assigned value, at least according to your definition as "twelve notes in a measure" and therefore would also be triplets if played in 3/4 time, 8th notes if played in 12/8, etc etc etc.\ Mark Hatch-Miller P.S. This is not a flame, and Im sorry for keeping this thread going for so long because I know that noone really cares about 12th notes or 53rd notes or whatever : ) ------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Hatch-Miller, email_address_removed "He's noble enough to know whats right but weak enough not to choose it He's wise enough to win the world but fool enough to lose it"- Rush, "New World Man" ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 00:55:46 -0500 From: Richard Warren To: email_address_removed Subject: Clinic Message-ID: I know the St. Louis JP and DS clinic has been beaten to death but I have a few comments. Of course the clinic was incredible. JP and DS seem like they are genuinely nice people. If Derek seemed reluctant to sign autographs I am sure it was because there was something with Kevin involved. I can't blame him at all. Kevin was the original keyboard player and contributed a great deal to the band but....he chose to leave. Derek is the keyboard player now. I am thrilled to have a musician of his caliber in the band. The most important thing is he wants to be in this band and it shows. On top of the clown that asked about harmonizing bass lines on SDV some other idiot asked him what Kevin was doing. Derek made the comment about Mike saying he went to Costa Rica. The idiot had the nerve to pursue it further and say "so he is not doing anything musical"? If I were Derek I would not have given him the time of day. There seems to be some confusion as to the songs JP played so here they are: Purple Rain Burning My Soul Speak to Me Lines in the Sand Hollow Years Sammy's Nap 2 Songs from the Sega game (these are on the Mesa Boogie web site) The best thing about the clinic......I got my JPM100P2 signed by the man himself. Later, Richard Warren email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 01:49:50 +0000 From: "KorgX3" To: email_address_removed Subject: I just heard a couple of strange rumors... Message-ID: > as a wise man once said, "you should go through life with a built-in > shit-detector". Last I heard, Mike Portnoy had just bought a great amount of stock in the "Hair Club for Men." and donated alot of money to the Research of Zebras with Enlarged Uvulas Foundation. I can't imagine why... "And lo cameth down from the mountain the wombat and thus gaveth he the blessing of life unto Australia. Thus spaketh he 'dweefle' and it was good. O, how the divine blessing of his teaching scoureth the land and yea, harken unto he the herald of the Divine Being 'dweefle' and harken unto thyself the message of the wombat, and ye shall gain everlasting peace." ---From the teachings of KorgX3 http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 01:45:54 +0000 From: "KorgX3" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Time Signatures, Clinics Message-ID: Bafu uddered... > If you haven't tried playing with a Dunlop Jazz III, give it a shot. It > has a built-in precision that will work wonders for your chromatic > playing, among other things. You'll be playing like Petrucci in 30 days, > or your sanity back! No Shit! Those picks kick ass. When I bought my RG570, I badgered the guy into giving me a few free picks and I only grabbed one of these things not knowing how splendid they are. it eventually was gobbled up by that big cubical machine that has the spinning thing in it that swishes your clothes around in soapy water. I've been damned to never find another music store that sells em. I've been stuck with plain ol' Big Stubbies ever since which are rather nice as well. :) Jim Dunlop is an amazing man. :) "And lo cameth down from the mountain the wombat and thus gaveth he the blessing of life unto Australia. Thus spaketh he 'dweefle' and it was good. O, how the divine blessing of his teaching scoureth the land and yea, harken unto he the herald of the Divine Being 'dweefle' and harken unto thyself the message of the wombat, and ye shall gain everlasting peace." ---From the teachings of KorgX3 http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 01:33:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thezbians Subject: YAOTM? Message-ID: > From: email_address_removed (Scott Cook) > Subject: Thanks in Advance!! > > I just wanted to thank everyone in advance for giving me the > Ytse-asshole of the month Award. This is good therapy for Mark. I should > send him a picture of myslef to him so he can post it on his web page so > he can show everyone what the Ytsejam's #1 asshole looks like. That > should give Itchy a big ol' erection. When the only way you can get > attention from a woman is to get a hooker, you gotta get your kicks > where you can. Do I need any special computer apparati to start a mailing list? We really do need some larger forum for discussion as to which of these two men has the mightier erection. Bafu Vaiii ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 01:56:19 -0800 From: Glenn Pillsbury To: email_address_removed Subject: "The Spirit of Radio" Message-ID: Ye olde Jammers- The setlist for my radio show (cool name, eh?) last night is below. It was a very strange experience to play metal in a semi-legit setting. I felt like I was at KNAC (dead LA metal station). Glenn Broon's Trees Across Xanadu (a sequence from Exit...Stage Left) Aces High Speed King Victim of Changes Red Through the Never ..And Justice For All Blitzkrieg (I'm planning on doing a Metallica block each week. Hard to fit DT into 15 minutes.) Metropolis Outside Looking In Fallen Angel (gasp! Poison!) Rainbow in the Dark Wild Child (gasp! g.a.s.p.! W.A.S.P.!) Mouth For War Sickening (Meshuggah) Seasons in the Abyss King For A Day Desperate People ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 02:08:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thezbians Subject: Mo' Clinics Message-ID: > From: "Dale R. Newberry" > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2429 > > Or when he stressed that he was double-picking these fast runs, and how > it'd be extrememly difficult to do it with downstrokes only, but that > Jems Hetfield could probably do it (then went on to do some runs with > downstrokes, mixing the Enter Sandman riff in between :). He did that at the Boston clinic... "Maybe James Hetfield... (tightens up elbow) ..." CRUNCHCRUNCHCRUNCH CRUNCHCRUNCHCRUNCH!! CRUNCHCRUNCHCRUNCHCRUNCHCRUNCHCRUNCHCRUNCH!! > I saw a number of glam boys there (and the next night at the Sheehan > clinic). He probably worked for McMurray :). SHEEHAN clinic? How was that? Elaborate please. Tell me more. Bafu Ha Andato ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 03:33:09 -0700 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: other bands Message-ID: Hey, I'm flippin through the Dream Disc catalog. Anyone have any reviews, recommendations or better descriptions of the following bands? Acacia Elegy Poverty's No Crime D.I.M. Time Machine Thanks. Trevor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 10:14:49 -0500 From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." To: email_address_removed Subject: Geetar mags, sexual intercourse Message-ID: > From: email_address_removed > Speaking of guitar mags... I just started looking at a current issue of > either Guitar or Guitar World (both of which I am just waiting for my > subscription to run out) Yep, that's me. The only mag I'm going to keep is Guitar Player, and they're not even what they used to be, IMO. I liked it better when they had actual columns that had been written (for the most part) especially for the issue. Paul Gilbert, Nathan East, Frank Zappa, Mike Keneally, and Buckethead all had columns that I liked. Oh well.... > From: chief > whoever the fuck you are - > stop sending me your pointless shit. i don't want it. go bother someo > ne else. oh, by the way, how the fuck did you get my goddamn name? Your mother screams it at the top of her lungs every night. That freaked me out when she included your email address, though. (I decided to wait at least 1000 'jams before I even consider posting that huge bird finger again. Even then, the waste o' bandwidth fairy would probably shoot me....) B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 10:19:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Cygnus To: email_address_removed Subject: Stratosphere Message-ID: Has anyone else noticed this: the music from about 3:05 to 3:35 in the Stratovarius song Stratosphere greatly resembles the music from Castlevania II: SImon's Quest after you have defeated the game. I thought that was interesting. ***Rob*** email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 00:50:51 +0900 From: email_address_removed.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: other bands Message-ID: Greetings 'Jammers! Alright. Let me say something about following bands. >Acacia Sorry. I don't know about them. >Elegy Wow, they rules! They released 3 albums (with original vocalist) and 1 e.p. (with new vocalist) The best of them is their 3rd album titled "LOST". Very melodic and technical music. Some kind of Yngwie cloan guitar player and high-tone vocalist. >Poverty's No Crime Not good band. I think. B-class German metal band. Better save your money! >D.I.M. Scandinavian band. Not too good and not too bad. Just average band. I felt nothing from them. >Time Machine Very prog-metal band. Their 2nd offering "Garilleo" (s.p?) is the best offer. Thanks. -Keiji Nishihara email_address_removed.ne.jp email_address_removed.ac.jp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 11:25:39 -0700 From: Andrew Forcier To: email_address_removed Subject: Guitar mags, Manson, etc... Message-ID: Hello, On the subject of guitar mags which suck as a general concept these days, I personally despise the fact that they continually reprint the same transcriptions over and over. For instance: Runnin' with the Devil, 3 times; I Don't Believe in Love, twice; Stairway to Heaven, lost count. And of course, it's always the songs that I can figure out on my own and not wast $5 on. But will they reprint the transcription of Hangar 18 or Get the Funk Out which I lost both of and could never figure out the solos. Hell no! Oh, and I guess when they were talking about the enormous guitar playing talents on MTV that they ignored the 10 hours a day they spend on The Real World, Singled Out, Idiot Savants and all the other gutter trash TV. Not to mention 10 hours of video after video of Snoop, Tupac, and Spice Girls. Not that I mind, it makes it easier to surf right past the channel when I'm bored. On this child star turned musician note: I also heard the lead singer of Smashing Pumpkins was the kid Jamie on Small Wonder. Oh, wait! That rumour's true!:) As for this Jazzmin person: >Don't EVEN THINK about starting a thread. I'm still recovering from the >LAST flame war. Dontcha just love when someone tells you not to do something, right after doing it themselves. "I'm sick of all you hypocrites, holding me at bay..." heheh... And as for what Bafu said: >And if you're going to go see "The Saint," for hell's sake cover your >ears when the Russian Mob chases him down into the parking garage. The >tire screeching is just excruciating... And cover your eyes for the first 2hrs 10min. Oh wait, that's the whole movie! IT SUCKED! Use your $8 to see Grosse Pointe Blank, much better movie, and it doesn't have any dumb Russians. Just a dumb Bulgarian... On the Ytse-A**hole of the month, couldn't we change the name to something less vulgar. Itchy wants to make this a nicer place, so why don't we just call it "The Jammer Least Likely To Contribute Something Useful to the Jam or Society in General"? Or is that too wordy...:) Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 11:30:26 -0700 From: Andrew Forcier To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: Saigon Kick Information Message-ID: Hello! My thanks in advance to the list moderators for allowing me to post this. This contains no new information, it is just a repost of the original note that I sent. I am reposting in the interests of those who may have deleted digests either accidentally, or due to unwarranted content. Any of the initial respondents need not respond again. As there is not one currently in existence, and the fan base is fairly small (to my knowledge), are there any folks interested in helping me create or simply joining a SAIGON KICK MAILING LIST. I would only maintain it for the transmission of any important info from management and the band, much like the Dream Theater Voices list is (supposedly) run. If you are interested mail me at: email_address_removed. Just put a subject of "SK" and a message saying your level of interest, i.e. help to create, just joining, etc. and your full name. Keep in mind the purpose would be information distribution, not free-writing for the musically omniscient. Also, if you know of others that would be interested, feel free to forward this note to them or other band mailing lists (remember not to forward the whole digest). Please let me know if you do so what lists you've sent it to. Please do not place this on any government or business related distribution lists. The project may have to be cancelled if this is done. When I get enough names, I will contact the band's management to demonstrate that there is some interest, no matter how insignificant. I say this to reinforce the idea that this has, right now, only a possibility of coming to fruition. As the number of names grows, maybe we'll get something more formal with the band and expand the list's parameters. Thank you again to the list moderators for letting me post this. Andrew Forcier email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 12:48:16 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: HA! Message-ID: > > Date: Mon, 07 Apr 97 15:44:42 EST > From: chief > To: ytsejam > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2433 > Message-ID: > > whoever the fuck you are - > stop sending me your pointless shit. i don't want it. go bother someo > ne else. oh, by the way, how the fuck did you get my goddamn name? > > fuck you. In these, the "slow" times as far as new DTC is concerned, posts like this make reading the jam worthwhile. :) Steve Z ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2435 **************************