YTSEJAM Digest 2430 Today's Topics: 1) happy bouncy clinic thoughts by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" 2) New Fates Warning - Sound Clips by Michael Kizer 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2428 by "Richard A. Rivera" 4) Re: QR Empire single by Rick Audet 5) THANX!! by "Jim Munster" 6) A call to Europeans for help by email_address_removed (George Szumski) 7) weird story with JP by 2112 8) Cool dream, this-n-that (DTC) by Yo 9) price of Korg by Chris Oates 10) some stuff. by "Jeremy P. Kube" 11) Re: price of Korg by "KorgX3" 12) Much Music (Canadian TV) by (Chung Ng) 13) heheheh... by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" 14) Rush seats by email_address_removed (Mark Lampert) 15) Re: some stuff. by Rick Audet 16) Re: some stuff. by 2112 17) Re: Ytse-Asshole of the month !!! by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2429 by "Dale R. Newberry" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 17:33:46 -0600 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds Subject: happy bouncy clinic thoughts Message-ID: >Rip said that he thought they played You or Me... I don't think so, but if >anyone else remembers, please correct me. i'm definately not sure about if it was you or me, however they did play one new DT song that i heard the title of, then a few minutes later found myself saying "uh.. what did he just say again?" so to my best knowledge it was you or me, but my knowledge is that of a dimwit on many (most) occasions :) > Rip? >Didn't even know you were there... you were probably one of the fourteen >year olds my cousin and I were making fun of. :) hehe, i was the one in the black long sleeved fix for 96 shirt.. i only saw one other fix shirt, and it was maroon, short sleeved and worn by a big dude, so the other fix shirt you saw was worn by yours truly. i was the dude who asked john if he'd ever considered doing a concept album. yeah yeah, dumb question, dumbly said, but i had a fun time doing it! :) also asked him if he was afraid of the new 54 minute fates track while up there for autographs. ;) as for derek, he wasnt a dick at all, and yeah, it was a riot when he would turn people down for autographing old dt stuff. he did it to several people, all of whom were pretty dumb for asking. i actually thought he seemed like a great guy, and i saw both DS and JPs reactions when pat gave em complimentary ytsejam shirts and they absolutely loved em. if i would have thought ahead i would have asked pat to bring an extra and bought one from him there. until the next dt get together in st louis i guess.. :) i did run into dale again at mc murray again today, just as i was leaving.. man, thanks a ton for the tapes of stuff, i'll get you back two fold for that! sorry i had to split! and that wraps up another post :) ~Rip ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 16:29:36 -0700 From: Michael Kizer To: email_address_removed Subject: New Fates Warning - Sound Clips Message-ID: Hey everybody, I finally put some sound clips of the new album up on my Fates page, http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer/fw/fw.htm Check in the Discography section.... Enjoy! ~Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 19:17:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard A. Rivera" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2428 Message-ID: On Sat, 5 Apr 1997 email_address_removed wrote: > > Tyketto > > Never heard their music but i believe its 80's warrant type stuff. > Tyketto is a GREAT hard rock/AOR band. If you're into this kind of stuff (like I am) pick up their debut album "Don't Come Easy." Easily one of the best albums, debut or otherwise, by ANY band in the genre. The second one "Strength In Numbers" is pretty good, but I would avoid "Shine," which has a different lead singer, who did a great Steve Perry impersonation w/ the band Tall Stories, but sounds like a 2nd rate Robert Plant ripoff w/ Tyketto. Richie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 19:27:48 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: QR Empire single Message-ID: D-Man wrote: >On Sat, 5 Apr 1997, Rick Audet wrote: > >> I was digging through my roommate's CD's when I stumbled across this QR >> single for "Empire", which also has "Scarborough Fair", "Prophecy", and >> "Della Brown" on it. It's an import from Holland. Anyone know if this is >> worth anything these days? > >Are you so short of cash you have to start selling your roommate's shit? :) Shhh!! Not so loud. I need some cash to buy a CD boot of a Fix show. -Rick Audet ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 19:39:07 -0500 From: "Jim Munster" To: Subject: THANX!! Message-ID: THANKS NEIL!! Your words of encouragement have spawned me to greater heights. As you said, it sometimes takes people like ourselves to be bold and listen and play what we like. I currently am in the process of mixing an original studio album myself and my roomate and I have spent much time arranging, producing and writing. The direction of the music lies somewhere within the realm of a Metallica meets DT in an alleyway and decides to "duke it out." Thanks for letting me know that there are some people out there that still appreciate "good" music. Musically yours, Freakboy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 20:17:42 -0500 From: email_address_removed (George Szumski) To: email_address_removed, email_address_removed Subject: A call to Europeans for help Message-ID: Hello all. I am looking for a book that isn't available here in the U.S. The book is called Not For Our Eyes by Annamarie Piccone. My mother is trying to get this book. It might be written in Italian, but since she doesn't read Italian, she wants an English version. If you can find the book, please e-mail me at email_address_removed. Thanks for your time, G. _________________________________________ "I'm out of debt for the first time in my adult life." "'What are you going to do now?'" "Buy a house." -G.S. 11/4/96 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 20:57:42 -0500 (EST) From: 2112 To: Bitch Hell Subject: weird story with JP Message-ID: Hey folks- I had been off the jam for awhile but just wanted to tell this story that just happened to my friend: My friend Tony from Drew went to Long Island this weekend to visit his woman. Anyways, I'm just sitting in my room and he calls me all excited. He told me that he met John Petrucci in the Smithaven Mall in Long Island. At first, my friend was freaking out because he was not sure if it was him or not so he decided to model ytsejam behavior and stalk him. BTW, John was with his wife and kids. So he follows John into a candy store. Here's a brief paraphrased conversation of what happened: Tony: Excuse me, are you John Petrucci? JP: Yes. Tony: I don't want to bother you but I just want to say that you're my favorite guitarist. JP: Thanks. That's basically the gist of it. My friend was too nervous to ask him any questions or anything but told me that if he had a second chance he would have asked about the upcoming album. Oh well. Just wanted to share that story. Brandon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 21:07:00 -0500 From: Yo To: email_address_removed Subject: Cool dream, this-n-that (DTC) Message-ID: HEY NOW! Check out this freaky dream I had the other night! I swear to god this is true... :) Remember back in the mid-80's when "We Are the World" and its hard rock/metal equivalent "Starz" were all the rage? Well, my dream involved a big recording session similar to those... you know, a room full of singers up on risers, gathered in groups around several mics, the whole nine yards. Exactly like you see in those "making of" videos. Except this session was a group of us YTSEJAMMERS singing our own "all-star" version of ACoS! It was so cool. I have no idea how, but somehow we got our hands on a special instrumental mix of ACoS, maybe through the fan club or something (it was a dream, man, you have to suspend some disbelief!). Anyway, somebody on the list organized a YtseCon sort of thing whereby jammers from all over the place showed up at this studio one weekend for the recording session. I guess there were about 30 of us altogether, and each jammer got to sing a couple of lines. I'm laughing just thinking about it. The better singers in the bunch got to take the more difficult sections, the middle-of-the-road singers were assigned somewhat less-challenging sections, and the absolutely tone deaf graciously volunteered to do the spoken word parts. :) Everyone chimed in together to sing parts like "Innocence caressing me..." and of course to yell "PLEASE DON'T GO!!!" It was great! Easily one of the coolest dreams I've ever had. The finished product sounded really great, by the way... especially certain moments when 2 jammers got to harmonize ("oh come let us adore him," etc) and especially the huge choir of PLEASE DON'T GO!!! I got to sing the "tripping through the light fantastic....I feel like giving up" part of Another World. HOW COOL IS THAT??? Lying bleeding in the dark, Jeff email_address_removed http://www.grinmedia.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 18:04:59 -0800 From: Chris Oates To: email_address_removed Subject: price of Korg Message-ID: These days they can vary from $500 to over $3,000 with your good pro-level board being an average of $1000 to $1500. Same for pretty much any manufacturer. Used is cheaper, of course. As to how Derek bought his when he was thirteen and how much a good board cost then, I don't know, but who knows, maybe it was bought for him by his parents for a Christmas (or whatever) present. __ /\ __ __\/__\/__ ~Chris \_||_/ /__||__\ http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/ // \ | \\ http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/9597 (coming soon) \| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 22:22:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeremy P. Kube" To: email_address_removed Subject: some stuff. Message-ID: Well I figured I would post a couple of cool responses to some cool stuff that has been posted while I have been under the weather with pneumonia. I heard what kind of response the petition had and I am psyched. Something like 250,000 signatures! That is great! Did anyone catch Geoff Tate on Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher last night? How was it? Does anyone know when I can purchase Rush tickets for the show on June 23rd @ Great Woods, Mansfield Mass? Let me know via private e mail. Later, J ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 20:11:39 +0000 From: "KorgX3" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: price of Korg Message-ID: > These days they can vary from $500 to over $3,000 with your good pro-level > board being an average of $1000 to $1500. Same for pretty much any > manufacturer. Used is cheaper, of course. Am I up for bid now, or what? :) Actually the one I want I've only seen discounted for $3500. Most retail places I've seen want it for around $4k to $5k. It's name is the Trinity ProX, and it's power is divine. Most certainly more than just a synth. I've got the ad brochure thing, if people want a post of it's amazingness, lemme know, I'll be glad to show it off. This thing kicks more ass than E-Man's JPM100. (It's yours dude, YOUR JPM. :) The Ibanez EKM1000. :) Glad to see Derek uses one, too. I'll have to beat him up after a show and take it from him. Anyone else ever try one of these out? There's a couple of premade samples in it. If I remember right, one's called Theater of Dreams, and there was another Dream Theater reference one on there called Yit-say-jam or sumthin like that. Too bad I can't remember Exactly. It's rather kewl, though. Top quality and all. Too bad Korg doesn't have their own website, or I'd point you to one. Ah, well, my X3 suits me fine anyway. :) "And lo cameth down from the mountain the wombat gaveth the blessing of life unto Australia. Thus spaketh he 'dweefle' and it was good. O, how the divine blessing of his teaching scoureth the land and yea, harken unto he the herald of the Divine Being 'dweefle' and harken unto thyself the message of the wombat, and ye shall gain everlasting peace." ---From the teachings of KorgX3 http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 97 23:02:17 EST From: (Chung Ng) To: Subject: Much Music (Canadian TV) Message-ID: Does anyone get a Canadian (Toronto area) tv channel called MUCH MUSIC? I get it on my DSS dish. It's got a lot of corny videos I've never seen before, but they do a lot of cool stuff that MTV doesn't do. They have live stuff, a metal show and generally more music... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 22:56:10 -0600 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds Subject: heheheh... Message-ID: well, i got the new u2 today. been meaning to for a while, and so far i dig it. very dancey, i think its pretty cool. maybe i'll set up my strobe light later and sit around in it while listening to this :) theres actually lots of melody on the album, some cool vocals and as always edges guitar work is edge-like and premo. following the vein of achtung and zooropa, with a few new tricks in the bag. i kind of think the whole history of u2 from scrappy street punks to the biggest in the biz is a fascinating one, and they just cant help being one of my favorite bands. Now with all these new albums coming out, i want my new DT! :< =) ~Rip ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 23:49:24 -0600 From: email_address_removed (Mark Lampert) To: Subject: Rush seats Message-ID: >Ticket sales for 11/29/96 Rush show -> I show up, I'm first in line, no >lottery, but the first tickets out of the machine were in the center of >the floor adjacent to the soundboard. Somehow 29 rows of seats were sold >between the time I said "I'll take 4 seats" and the time the guy at >Ticketmaster punched in the order. yeah....radio stations and whatever get seats for callers... scalpers have connections..... I was second in line and got two seats in the center of the 20th row... still good seating, but i can't try and slap Alex and Geddy five anymore... oh well - who cares? I'm going to RUSH! · • Colonel Mustard • · ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 01:32:47 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: some stuff. Message-ID: > I heard what kind of response the petition had and I am psyched. >Something like 250,000 signatures! That is great! Anybody actually read this thing called Ytsejam? > Did anyone catch Geoff Tate on Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher >last night? How was it? Anybody actually read this thing called Ytsejam? I guess not. -Rick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 03:49:57 -0500 (EST) From: 2112 To: email_address_removed Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: some stuff. Message-ID: On Sat, 5 Apr 1997, Jeremy P. Kube wrote: > Did anyone catch Geoff Tate on Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher > last night? How was it? Yes I saw it. Unfortunately, he did not say very much. Brandon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 01:48:59 -0800 From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Ytse-Asshole of the month !!! Message-ID: Hey Itchy... that sounds like a lot of work... good luck to you... -The Doc -- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: email_address_removed #$%#$#$% *$%&%#$* Global Micro Solutions #$#$#@@# *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ #$@#$#@# http://www.gmsnet.com/progmetal @#$@##@$ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 11:38:46 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2429 Message-ID: > Derek said that Mike told them that Kevin Moore has moved to Costa Rica (I > think) and is currently digging up dinosaur bones. I am *not* makeing > this up (although I have not ruled out the possiblitly that Mike *is*), > and I'm sure that everyone else that was there remembers this because it > got a hell of a reaction from the crowd... Oh yeah, I remember that. I thought it was pretty hilarious. > You may hear some complaints eventually that "Derek was an asshole after > the clinic, man, I asked him for an autograph and he just said 'no, I'm > not signing that' and walked off!" As I saw this happen several times, I > can tell you that the second half is absolutely true. As for Derek being > an asshole, I would be quicker to say that the autograph-seekers were the > ones being assholes. An example? I'm talking to Derek about the Fix > shows, and someone walks up, pushes a CD (Live at the Marquee) towards > Derek and says "Will you sign this?" Derek looks at the CD, looks at the > guy, and says "No." As the guy walks off, mumbling under his breath, > Derek turns back and says "Why don't they just ask me to sign their Elvis > albums, I didn't play on those either..." Which is why I brought ACoS for > them to sign. :) I didn't get the chance to talk with him much afterward (though I did notice him with a jam shirt :). I do understand the sentiment, though. I eman, geez, if you're gonna have the guy sign something, at least let it be something he played on, and don't interrupt him while someone else is talking. Manners, people, manners. > Another Derek highlight that most people who weren't at the clinic won't > get the full scope of... He was talking about something, and decided that > rather than talking, he should be playing, and when he pressed the keys, > the sound that came from the speakers was (judging from the > oh-my-god-in-heaven-what-the-fuck-did-I-just-do, whites-of-his-eyes > surprised look he got on his face) about 10 decibals higher than he had > expected. That look was priceless. Hehe :). > One thing that majorly sucked about the clinic: the bozos at McMurray > that organized it. I was told for weeks prior, and in fact the DAY OF, > that there would be no tapes, video or still cameras or any other type of > recording devices allowed at the clinics. Well, there was *no* security > there! They didn't even check to see if you had a ticket before letting > you in! And JP even said "If you have a tape recorder, go ahead and > record so you can try this stuff at home" which was met with several > grunts from the audience, who obviously shared the same feelings as I. > There was at least one guy there with a camcorder, and I would imagine a > few tapers as well (please email me!). Security was so loose there that > you could have walked up on stage, unplugged JP from his pre-amp, thrown > him - and his guitar - over your shoulder, walked out, put them both in > the trunk of your car, and driven off. Hell, one of the employees would > have followed you to the lot with the pre-amp saying "excuse me? Sir? > You forgot this..." Thanks to them, I have no tape of the clinic, and no > pics of DS or JP, much less myself with them. If anyone on the list works > for McMurray, please tell everyone I said 'fuck you'. :) Definitely agreed there. I didn't have many means (other than a huge-ass camcorder I couldn't sneak in if I tried) to record anything really, but I did notice a good amount of recording/camers devices there. I think one dude with a little camcorder was with the store (saw him the next day behind the desk in the main lobby), but I know I saw more than one recording device. > Some other things that were met with shock/humor by the crowd were some of > John's comments while playing... He played some sort of 5/4 chromatic > scale thing, which seemed obtainable at first... then he played the same > thing at an obscenely fast pace for a bit, which was met with much jaw > dropping and salivating by the guitarist in the crowd (the difference > between this and their previous disposition seemed to be that their jaws > weren't dropped before). After finishing that, he said "Once you have > that down -" and didn't get much farther because of the laughter and cries > of frustration from the crowd. Or when he stressed that he was double-picking these fast runs, and how it'd be extrememly difficult to do it with downstrokes only, but that Jems Hetfield could probably do it (then went on to do some runs with downstrokes, mixing the Enter Sandman riff in between :). > Also, who the fuck are all you people posting about the clinic, and why > didn't I meet any of you after the clinic!? I was there for at least a > half hour talking to Derek or getting something signed by John. Rip? I would've said something if I knew what you looked like (didn't see a jam shirt, though. I got there right before JP came on, so I wasn't there early. I did hang out some afterward, though). The only one who's appearance I was already familiar wiht was/is Rip's. > Didn't even know you were there... you were probably one of the fourteen > year olds my cousin and I were making fun of. :) For some reason I doubt that since Rip looks a little older than his age (he's tall for his age :). >A little people spotting for those of you at the clinic... see if >you remember these faces in the crowd: Sometimes the crowd provides enough entertainment in itself :). > Jesus - he was on the left side of the room, sitting in the aisle and > latter standing towards the back. He had on a blue shirt and bellbottoms. > Side note to anyone who knows an up and coming local band who needs a > name: Jesus Wears Bellbottoms. :) I think I remember this dude since I was on the left side, standing toward the back (no, this wasn't me. I don't wear bell-bottoms :). > The Kid from the ACoS cover - right side, inner aisle, I believe in a > maroon shirt. Yeah, I remember this one :). > Kip Winger - spotted him in the lobby, not sure if he was at the clinic or > not. I saw a number of glam boys there (and the next night at the Sheehan clinic). He probably worked for McMurray :). > Vinny, from Doogie Howser - on the right side, just past Derek. Hehe, that's hilarious :). > Al Bundy - right side, just past Derek. Had the look right down the the > shirt and unwashed hair... I saw a lot of those yesterday when Jake's Leg (local Grateful Dead tribute band) was playing. A lot of teenage neo-hippies. The band wasn't that bad for that style of music, though. > There were more, but I can't remember them all now... We were adequately > entertained by the look alikes in the room until the show started > though... I did the same thing. First thing I noticed was this dude wearing an old, faded Slaughter shirt. I think I went to high school with this guy :). Dale R. 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