YTSEJAM Digest 2352 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Friedman & Petrucci by Carlos Alfaro 2) Re: Megadeth by Lars Hellsten 3) Savatage, etc. by Soul Madness 4) Re: Nuno Batancourt/ Savantage/Queensryche by Kristin Dumas 5) subscribing by email_address_removed (nicole m gerace) 6) Re: Megadeth by "KorgX3" 7) ytsejam by Mike Lowe 8) Lars rules... by CLARK ABEL 9) Re: Megadeth by "Louie The Drunken Irishman" 10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2351 by "Eric LaRue" 11) To the guitarists. by Stephen Daedalus 12) Metropolis Story URL by "Eric LaRue" 13) New DT drummer? by Jeremy Kube 14) Re: Metro by Carlos Alfaro 15) i cant help but respond :) metropolis precussion by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" 16) Hmmm. by Ben Laussade 17) DT with MD? by LaSorsa/Matthews ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 07:21:00 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Friedman & Petrucci Message-ID: email_address_removed wrote: . MF does not apply at all his hole range of habilities > when playing in Megadeth, you should really listen to his solo > albums, this guy really rules and he's as good as JP! > this is a point i was waiting to see.. this is very true.. to see friedman in all his glory ..one has to check out Cacophony..i mean..this guy doubles solos w/ jason becker..so he must be AWESOME..its just that in megadeth he is more controlled... "At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur. The risk to survival is severe." Ian Malcolm http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:00:56 -0500 From: Lars Hellsten To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Megadeth Message-ID: >Well, personally I think Dream Theater's the shittiest band to ever >come around. Same with Queensryche, Enchant, Shadow Gallery, and >every other prog band. The only reason I listen to them is because I >think KJLB has a cute butt. Then why are you on this mailing list? You're certainly entitled to your own opinion, but if you don't like Dream Theater, I have to wonder why you're on a mailing list for Dream Theater fans. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 10:00 EST From: Soul Madness To: email_address_removed Subject: Savatage, etc. Message-ID: Yeah, theres a Savatage site located at http://www.winternet.com/%7Esavaweb/savatage.html There isn't much located there about their new album though (I assume you mean the one they are working on) because not much is known other than they are working on it as of now but now song titles, album title, or release date are known. However, it has a very comprehensive look at each and every other album including pictures, detailed reviews, track lists, biographies, and lyrics. My thought for a day: If I could put a supergroup together (alive or dead) , it would go like this: Vocals: Madonna Guitar: Criss Oliva and John Petrucci Bass/Backing Vocals: Bugs Bunny Drums: Mike Portnoy Keyboards: Fiona Apple Producers: Jon Oliva and Paul O'Neill Hope it made someone smile. email_address_removed Warrior Soul Homepage (now featuring a Whats New section, a review with more to come, liner notes, lyrics, and info on rare CD singles) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:47:45 -0600 (CST) From: Kristin Dumas To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Nuno Batancourt/ Savantage/Queensryche Message-ID: > Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:08:33 +0000 > From: John Emmons > To: email_address_removed > Subject: Nuno Batancourt/ Savantage/Queensryche > Message-ID: > > Hi, > > I was wondering if anyone out there has any Nuno Batancourt (ex-Extreme > guitarist) solo cds. He has a new album out and I was wondering if it > was really good, or if there was another one that I should check out > first.. > > Also, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can learn more about the > new Savatage album. Is there a website with more information about it? > > And speaking of new releases, does anyone know the exact date of the > release the new Queensryche album? I have heard that it is around the 22 > or the 25, but I of course want to get it the first day it's out... > > thanks for all your time and patience, > Maria > Maria, The new Queensryche album will be out on March 25, Called "Hear in the Now Frontier". I've seen a couple posts on here for QR sites, and the one I enjoy most is at http://www.mcs.net/~ryche/ As for the Savatage and Nuno information I'm at a loss. Take care! -Kristin ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) Kristin Dumas (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' email_address_removed _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' http://starbase.neosoft.com/~jdumas/ -(il),-''--(li),'--((!.-'----------------------------------------------------- Ride, to a place beyond our time ... Reach for the edges of your mind ... And you're there! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 10:44:57 -0600 (CST) From: email_address_removed (nicole m gerace) To: email_address_removed Subject: subscribing Message-ID: okay, i've been a part of this list now about 5 times. can one of you please show me how to subscribe again? -nicole ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 10:46:02 +0000 From: "KorgX3" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Megadeth Message-ID: > >Well, personally I think Dream Theater's the shittiest band to ever > >come around. Same with Queensryche, Enchant, Shadow Gallery, and > >every other prog band. The only reason I listen to them is because I > >think KJLB has a cute butt. > > Then why are you on this mailing list? You're certainly entitled to your > own opinion, but if you don't like Dream Theater, I have to wonder why > you're on a mailing list for Dream Theater fans. I'm just waiting for other people to start talking about how cute KJ's butt is, then I'll leave. No one has yet, though, you fucking dolt! I was only kidding! This is a guy who thinks he can decide what percentage of people who listen to Megadeth are on a lower intellectual level then he is. I tell you, if 80% of the Megadeth fans are below his level, they'd all be swinging around naked in the Amazon jungle. Oh, shit, I'm putting this baby to rest... KorgX3 a.k.a. email_address_removed Disclaimer: The content expressed in the previous document is not the opinion of the author. The author is exonerated of anything written therein. Viewer discretion is advised. ------------------------------ Date: 3/16/1997 14:17 From: Mike Lowe Subject: ytsejam Message-ID: i would like to subscribe and be placed on the mailing list. thanks, mike lowe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:53:06 -0400 (EDT) From: CLARK ABEL To: email_address_removed Subject: Lars rules... Message-ID: because he wrote: >>Well, personally I think Dream Theater's the shittiest band to ever >>come around. Same with Queensryche, Enchant, Shadow Gallery, and >>every other prog band. The only reason I listen to them is because I >>think KJLB has a cute butt. > >Then why are you on this mailing list? You're certainly entitled to your >own opinion, but if you don't like Dream Theater, I have to wonder why >you're on a mailing list for Dream Theater fans. Haahaaahaaahaaahaaaah! I just love it when someone you don't like manages to make themselves look far more stupid than you ever could have made them look. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:16:43 CST From: "Louie The Drunken Irishman" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Megadeth Message-ID: >>Well, personally I think Dream Theater's the shittiest band to ever >>come around. Same with Queensryche, Enchant, Shadow Gallery, and >>every other prog band. The only reason I listen to them is because I >>think KJLB has a cute butt. > >Then why are you on this mailing list? You're certainly entitled to your >own opinion, but if you don't like Dream Theater, I have to wonder why >you're on a mailing list for Dream Theater fans. > > Ever hear of sarcasm... There's no one to take my blame...if they wanted to Nothing to keep me sane, and it's all the same to you There's nowhere to set my aim so I'm everywhere Never come near me again, do you really think I need you And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend And I ll never be open again And I'll have no more dreams to defend And I'll never be open again Dream Theater - Space-Dye Vest +++Pat Worrall+++Augustana College+++ *****Mailto:email_address_removed***** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:16:48 -0800 (PST) From: "Eric LaRue" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2351 Message-ID: Another is that it is probably >the agression of our music that has been turning off the judges, who seem to >prefer the more traditional (extremely pussy) shows. Our music is biting >and aggressive, and they just can't seem handle it. Trust me-judges suck. :-) > >>Paul Attredies >Hmm, seems mighty close to Paul Atreides from Frank Herbert's Dune. >BTW, I dig the story :). Keep posting it. It's finished, and it can now be found, in its entirety at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289/metroindex.html >All i know is that we need more DT airplay and TV play Damn straight! >>Wait a minute-Wasn't KI$$' drummer Peter Criss? What happened to him? > >Peter Criss was their original drummer and is on the current "We have come >for your wallets" tour. Eric joined the band in unofficially in 1991 when >Eric Carr was sick with cancer then "officially" joined after Carr's death. Learn something new every day... >Friends, > Weren't Metropolis and The Killing Hand both based on stories JP >originally wrote? No offense to Eric, I think what he's doing is tre >cool, but isn't that right? Be well. Wow-learn something new every day. First, I inadvertently include a Rush reference, and next I find I wrote a story based on a song that was based on a story. Cool. Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss, Eric Paul LaRue "Take hold of the flame. Don't you see life's a game? So take hold of the flame. You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!" Queensr˙che-"Take Hold of the Flame" http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289 "We're on a mission from God."-Blues Brothers --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 16:04:16 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Daedalus To: email_address_removed Subject: To the guitarists. Message-ID: Greetings friends, As the other resident blind guy here, I have some questions. Can anyone give me, by private e-mail of course, a description of asci tabliture? Could someone tell me what each symbol means and give me an example? I'd really appreciate it, 'cuz there's a million and one songs I want to learn, and transcription amidst a liberal arts education is a bitch. Please help. Be well. Matt B P.S. Sorry for no band content whatsoever, but then, who's really topical these days? ==================== "You are all weirdos. Hmph." (Sam the Eagle, The Great Muppet Movie) "Now all we need is a little enerjon, and a lot of luck." (Optimus Prime, Transformers the Movie) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:13:13 -0800 (PST) From: "Eric LaRue" To: email_address_removed Subject: Metropolis Story URL Message-ID: For those of you who missed one or more parts to my story based on "Metropolis,"(or who just want to read it again :-) ) I have posted it to my story archive. You can follow the link to my homepage, follow the link to my story archive, and you'll find it from there. Enjoy! Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss, Eric Paul LaRue "Take hold of the flame. Don't you see life's a game? So take hold of the flame. You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!" Queensr˙che-"Take Hold of the Flame" http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289 "We're on a mission from God."-Blues Brothers --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 16:21:39 -0500 (EST) From: Jeremy Kube To: email_address_removed Subject: New DT drummer? Message-ID: n the Eve of Destruction, MAMALOOKABOOBOODAY said: >I was just curious; if Mike Portnoy decided to leave DT (HE'S NOT, SO RELAX!) >who do you think would be a good replacement. My pick would have to be Eric >Singer. Lots of you may not like KI$$, but Eric is a brilliant drummer that >would compliment ANY band that he plays for. > I would say Simon Phillips... Agreed! Either Simon or Greg D'angelo or Tommy Lee (just kidding) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:22:15 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Metro Message-ID: Swanson wrote: > > After today's show, in which we were yet again ranked second to last, I got > to see a video of us for the first time. On the same tape there was on do you think we could work out something in order to get me a tape of that? it sounds interesting "At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur. The risk to survival is severe." Ian Malcolm http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 16:05:03 -0600 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds Subject: i cant help but respond :) metropolis precussion Message-ID: > >For the past couple of months, the main focus of my life has been working on >and performing Metropolis in the Chatfield Percussion Ensemble. The show is >a beautiful piece of work and I couldn't be prouder of our first effort in >the competitive percussion world. Anyone who knows anything about >percussion competitions knows how hard and how cool it can be. I am pretty >confident that our show is better than the other groups in our class. > >There's just one problem. The judges don't seem to think the same way I do. >They have been consistently scoring us very low, and ranking us as the >second to last drumline in the state of Colorado. a good show of confidence doesnt hurt, but just because you're playing a dream theater song doesnt necessarily mean its going to come out good. its the hardest shit in the world to play.. i've seen people who've attempted to play stuff before, i've done it myself, then when you get a chance to listen to it you can find out it really blows crap. not saying it does, just that you're taking a pretty vile 'tude towards these judges. therefore, it aint braggin if you can back it up, to quote good ol' jaco, so make some .wav files off this video, and put them on the web. anyone can say they're good, who can prove it? ah yes, i love the sound of a thrown gauntlet. actually i just want some excitement here. make some .wav files and prove us your worth, foolish mortal! ~Rip ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:21:57 -0800 From: Ben Laussade To: email_address_removed Subject: Hmmm. Message-ID: Greetings, Jamlings. Wow. You know what? The jam sorta SUCKS lately! I unsubbed a few months ago, then resubbed a week ago. Can we say boring? I mean, take this for instance: >Hope you enjoyed it, and sorry I had to chop it in half! > >Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss, > >Eric Paul LaRue > Jesus christ. That was almost as deep as the G.I Joe choose your own adventure stories I used to read. Not to mention, I started the "write stories that you think up while listening to DT songs" thread about a year ago once, and people thought it sucked then. Even though my voices story was cool, dammit. >I just figured that I >was biased because I'm in the ensemble, and that we probably haven't been >working as hard as these other groups. Well, hate to put it really bluntly...but maybe it's because you suck. Get over it. Write something else. Just because you like Dream Theater doesn't mean you rule all piss. Maybe it means you want to be cool for liking a band that nobody else has heard of, and you couldn't care less what's in the music. > Our music is biting >and aggressive, and they just can't seem handle it. Kinda like the English language is biting and agressive, and you just can't seem handle it? >If you guys can think of any way to help us make our >final show be something really special, then let me know. Play naked. Mark Smeets and Lars Hellsten......Just shut up. Nobody cares. >Oh..and to show I'm having fun...Lars...a personal invitation. >I am on irc, in fact, I am on the DT server/channel etc...If >you like, you can meet me there and you can confront me and >see just how stupid I actually am. Hey Mr. Smartypants...Lars Hellsten used to come on IRC before any jammers ever knew who you were. He left for probably the same reason I'm thinking about it. It's boring as hell there too. People just fight. >All i know is that we need more DT airplay and TV play Thank you Bob Profound. >From: MAMALOOKABOOBOODAY The only half-way entertaining thing in the whole jam. >I was just curious; if Mike Portnoy decided to leave DT (HE'S NOT, SO RELAX!) >who do you think would be a good replacement. My pick would have to be Eric >Singer. Lots of you may not like KI$$, but Eric is a brilliant drummer that >would compliment ANY band that he plays for. The fact that he played for Kiss automatically rules out the possibility that he has any talent whatsoever. In all the 1,457 or so times that thread has come up, that's the most retarded response I've ever seen. Besides, we all know I'd be the best replacement. In conclusion...I just wanna ask if anybody else remembers when the jam used to be FuN. SuPeR fUn. I used be all excited when I got home to go check my mail and read the Jam. There weren't huge freakin' arguments about what band sucks and what band doesn't. There were people with senses of humor. You guys need to stop taking stuff so personally. You saying "this band sucks" is just not going to change anybody else's opinion about that band. I mean, take Lars and Mark for instance. Now they aren't even arguing about Megadeth. They're arguing about if they have brains or not. Go back to kindergarten, guys. Besides people arguing, there's one line posts such as..."hey, check out this new band." Fact is..we've already heard of all those damned prog bands. And frankly, they're all starting to sound the same. Hootie-syndrome, if you know what I mean. Soembody needs to be original. I don't care if you can play your instrument well, if you sound exactly like somebody else, I don't wanna buy it. So.."Man, these guys RULE! They sound exactly like DT!" Guess what. DT doesn't even sound like DT anymore. Have you heard the new stuff? It all comes down to the fact that not everybody thinks like you, and not everybody is going to think like you, and you should try to get everybody to think like you because that's BORING, and BORING SUCKS, and that's why the jam isn't good, because it's BORING, because i've seen all this stuff before, every single thing in the last jam I've read, I've seen in another jam in one form or another. Now, don't go saying "Why don't YOU do something new?", because I'm gonna try, and I don't wana sound like I'm trying to be your leader in to the new ytse-frontier or anything, but i AM going to try, because the jam WAS one of the coolest things there was once, and I'd like to see it back that way, so, with that, goodbye. Ben Laussade ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:26:44 -0500 (EST) From: LaSorsa/Matthews To: email_address_removed Subject: DT with MD? Message-ID: I just got back from my trip and I look at one jam and there is talk of DT touring with MD. HOLY SHIT would that be an explosive show.. I love Megadeth. Dave Mustaine is the man. I think that the two bands WOULD compliment each other. They are ALL outstanding musicians. Can anyone fill me in on how this sort of came about (private email) Thanks. Tony ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2352 **************************