YTSEJAM Digest 2300 Today's Topics: 1) re: JAM 2299, Bloom County by "Matthew A. Schnoor" 2) Looking for Dt fans!!!! by email_address_removed.br 3) More New Songs! by Neil Elliott 4) Re: Groundhog, tribute is mine!!! by Stephen Daedalus 5) DT MOUSEpads are *NOW* on order...should be real s by Todd 6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2299 by Chris Ptacek 7) "Life on the Sticks" and other thingies by The Digital Man 8) Mike's favorite albums of '96 by "L. Jason Hartman" 9) Ytse-love blossoms again! by email_address_removed 10) who did i talk to last night.... by Tyler Stephan Kushera 11) Re: breathed connection by email_address_removed (Paul Goracke) 12) Selling.......... by Soul Madness 13) Altura... by Pat Griffin 14) The Tribute Thingy by "Scott Clinton" 15) Michael Harris & Artension by "Colonel Mustard" 16) Some Random Thoughts... by email_address_removed 17) Re: piccolo snare by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 03:37:08 -0800 From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" To: "_YTSEJAM_" Subject: re: JAM 2299, Bloom County Message-ID: Uh dudes, the hedge-hog was named Portnoy. Simple. :) Now, bonus points for the name of Opus's almost-wife. [ Matthew A. Schnoor ] "To rise, to fall [ mail: email_address_removed ] To hurt, to hate [ mail: email_address_removed ] To want, to wait [ http://www.SpiritOne.com/~schnoor ] To heal, to save" [ IRC: email_address_removed:2112 ] - Dream Theater, "Scarred" ------------------------------ Date: 22 Feb 1997 16:35:20 EDT From: email_address_removed.br To: email_address_removed Subject: Looking for Dt fans!!!! Message-ID: Hi everybody!!!!!! I've just subscribed the ytsejam mailing list and I would like to make contacts with Dt fans I play bass since 1994 and I've just started to play in a Heavy Metal Band where the main influence is Dt.Please send me e-mails,because here in Brazil is very difficullt to find Dt fans and I don't know what are the news of the band. Thank's!!!! Leandro S. Siqueira Santos/SP - Brazil ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 07:49:55 -0500 From: Neil Elliott To: "INTERNET:email_address_removed" Subject: More New Songs! Message-ID: Just to let you now that Mike gave me some info this weekend, and that the guys have written another 2 new songs! I will have more details on them for you early next week. As for the other 2 newies recently completed: Cover My Eyes and Hollow Years, lyrical credits go to JP on both. For now, Neil Elliott - DTIFC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 10:54:06 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Daedalus To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Groundhog, tribute is mine!!! Message-ID: The groundhog was... was... was--John Patrucci!!! Now Ben, I had this idea first. You can't just come in here and try to take control. I'm not just some son-of-a-bitch who wants her--his--name in the lights. I have experience organizing these things. Oh and may... Oh, you don't have a sig file to bash. Be well. Bye-bye. Matt B ==================== "You are all weirdos. Hmph." (Sam the Eagle, The Great Muppet Movie) "Now all we need is a little enerjon, and a lot of luck." (Optimus Prime, Transformers the Movie) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 10:38:18 -0600 From: Todd To: email_address_removed Subject: DT MOUSEpads are *NOW* on order...should be real s Message-ID: Hey all you Ytsejamers! Tis true! The DT mousepads are on order. Sorry for the delay. I should have a picture of it on the net in the next 20 days or so. If you have any questions, feel free to write me: email_address_removed ** There is ONLY going to be 125 in print. If you would like to reserve yours...write me. ** Sincerely, Todd S. email_address_removed TRS GROUP ***********************email_address_removed***************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 11:37:36 -0600 From: Chris Ptacek To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2299 Message-ID: >From: Pat Griffin >Subject: Shirt confusion? >>Yeah, is there going to be another ytsejam-list shirt run this year, >>not just the ones for the 'Cons, but the "official" one? I have to >>stock up for summer... (want to get some more tank-tops, black tees >>are a bit much in the summer in CA, even at the higher altitudes). >>I think I still have the _first-run_ one somewhere, but the black has >>faded so much it almost looks gray. I'm now going to comment on the current run of Ytsejam shirts, one of which I've had for months. Let me start by saying that my shirt has been washed probably 50 or so times, and has not fated. The YtseJam graphincs have not faded or cracked. Most importantly, THE SHIRT HAS *NOT SHRUNK*! This is the first band related shirt I've bought that hasn't shrunk. :) I have never seen a YtseCon shirt. >People have been asking also about reprints of the shirts since the XXL >and XXXLs ran out so quickly. At this point I would have to say that I >won't be doing another run. I still owe my friend a large chunk of money >that he lent me to print them in the first place, so reprinting *this* >shirt probably will not happen. If there is enough interest, I might >concider a new shirt, but I have to sell off the remaining 6 dozen or so >that I have of these first. There are also a couple of other >'YtseProducts' floating around in my head... more on that if things >develop. And finally a comment about shirt sizes: I am a tall dude, so I ordered an XXL shirt. I wont say this was overkill, but the shirt is bigger than I needed. I also ordered my GF an XL, because frankly, I had every belief that these things would shrink. I have since borrowed her shirt when I've needed a shirt (i.e. spilled something on the shirt I was wearing, etc...) and it fits perfectly as well. If you are not massively overweight, and aren't 6'6" the XL should be perfect for you. The shirt is made more sturdy than most T's and the material is a bit heavier than most T's. It's great quality and it's a GREAT price. Don't you want to experience the Dream Theater fans at the next concert staring at your shirt and sayingto each other "Wow! These are the guys that helped get ACoS out!" The graphic is pretty damn cool too. :) I'm telling you, it's gonna be great, because at the Dream Theater shows, if Portnoy and the gang see you wearing one of those shirts, they're gonna play their best, knowing they're gonna be reviewed in the next jam. :) Plus you get to scare them, cuz they know we're all a bunch of YtseStalkers. I don't know Pat really.... only talked to him a little bit. But the shirts are for real, there is no scam, you will get your order somewhat quickly, and you won't be disappointed. He bent over backwards to make us these shirts. Buy yours, and help him get out of debt for helping us out. It's well worth your money. -------- >>recently purchased A Change of Seasons and was wondering if any drummers out >>there share my opinion when I say, "WHAT THE HELL IS MIKE USING THAT >>NASSSSSSTY SOUNDING PICCOLO SNARE FOR??????!!!!!!" I LOVE Piccolo snares! I LOVE drums that sound like drums, instead of snares and toms that sound like thunder and cymbals that sound like high pitched gongs (tho china cymbals are great). I am no drummer, just a listener. But I'd say that makes my opinion in the matter possibly more valuable to you drummers than another drummer's opinion. Perhaps when you choose to play drums that part of your brain that likes piccolo snares and natural drum sounds falls out your ear? (J/K) Later guys and gals! Chris W. Ptacek Musician and Listener A.K.A Madsman, on IRC "Can we search for inspiration -- those ideas that just come from 'nowhere'? They don't surface when you're tHiNKinG. They just come. What we CAN do is make fertile the ground on which idea seeds fall." - Michael Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:47:34 -0500 (EST) From: The Digital Man To: "Ytse Fuckin' Jam" Subject: "Life on the Sticks" and other thingies Message-ID: > From: Aviad Shkolnikov > Subject: subscribe me please > > PLease subscribe me to the list > thanks ---- > From: email_address_removed > Subject: YTSEJAM digest 2298 > > Please stop sending these to me. Someone signed me up as a joke. We should introduce these two to each other. ---- > From: email_address_removed > Subject: Altura - NDTC > > "[Altura's] odd > meters and shifting tempos draw comparisons to Dream Theater, but > [Altura's] style is more experimental and less concerned with song > structure." Wow, that's a pretty polite description. It's not inaccurate, but... Well, I won't rant again about how much Altura pisses me off. Mail BigSwifty and me if you want differing opinions on Altura, so you can figure out whether to buy it or not. ---- > From: Cygnus > Subject: Lie CDS > > I have a question. Is the Lie CD single that much more rare than The > Silent Man CDS? In almost every CD store I go in I see a copy of The > Silent Man CDS, but I have never seen the Lie CDS. I think it must be, because I've seen TSM singles in Burlington, VT, and I haven't seen a Lie single on Long Island. ---- > From: email_address_removed > Subject: Re: An idea. > > Oh, and I have my own question to pose to the ever-so-vunderbar jam: > > Why is James yelling about a stepfather and "life on the sticks" in the > middle of Lie? It just doesn't make any sense to me. > > ~Eckie the confused, who nearly fought the black knight, nearly > approached the dragon of Gandor, and personally wet himself at the battle > of Vince and Jazz You know, it's a little frightening... I can't tell if he's joking or not! Like his next post is going to be... I wanna talk about life on the sticks and you can... Wait! Wait! Wait! John, why did you stop playing? Kevin stopped. Didn't you hear him? Of course not. * JohnP shrugs agreement * JohnM [nods silently] That's not the line, Kevin! Wait, who's talking to who? What do *you* think, John? * JohnP shares confused glance with JohnM It's not "life on the sticks!" It's "lifelong mistakes!" That's what I said, eh? Well, I'm out of here. You suck, and you can tell your stepfather I said so. * Kevin slams door John, what are you writing? That stepfather line - that would fit perfectly right after that sticks line! (YKYAIRCAW - You know you're an IRC addict when - you transcribe conversations like the one above) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster email_address_removed "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn email_address_removed /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 13:23:54 -0500 (EST) From: "L. Jason Hartman" To: email_address_removed Subject: Mike's favorite albums of '96 Message-ID: In the latest issue of Modern Drummer, they have a small section where a bunch of drummers where able to list the albums from 96 that were the most inspiring to them. Here are Mike's picks. 1. Steve Vai - Fire Garden 2. Spock's Beard - The Light and Beware of Darkness 3. Frank Zappa - Lather 4. Tool - AEnima (this album fooking rocks!!!!! Good pick Mike!!) 5. Johansson, Johansson, and Holdsworth (anyone heard this? What is it like?) --- Anyone know of any US dealers that have Superior in stock? (ie NOT Dream Disc or Knights of the Round) -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ / / L. Jason Hartman "And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend \ \ email_address_removed And I'll never be open again / / And I'll have no more dreams to defend \ \ Univ. Of Maryland, And I'll never be open again " / / Baltimore County - Kevin Moore : Dream Theater \ \ / / "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot." \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:41:33 -0800 (PST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Ytse-love blossoms again! Message-ID: >Dearest David, > Last night was the most special night of my life. I felt a magic that >I have yet to feel with any other man. The way you held me in your arms >made me feel so safe and secure, like I could remain there for eternity >to come. This is a special thing we have. I hope it lasts a long time. >Love, >Scott Daugherty Congrats to Mr. & Mr. Koba! Remeber to wrap that rascal! ;) SC ************************************************************************** Jesus he knows me, and he knows I'm right. I've been talking to Jesus all my life. Oh yes he knows me, and he knows I'm right. He's been telling me everything's gonna be alright ************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 16:21:20 -0600 (CST) From: Tyler Stephan Kushera To: email_address_removed Subject: who did i talk to last night.... Message-ID: i talk to someone last night on irc and i dont remember the bands he/she suggested. one was cynic byt i dont recall the other. the nic was 'impvision,' i think? please tell me what the name was if you read this.... later, ~tyler ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 14:55:18 -0800 From: email_address_removed (Paul Goracke) To: email_address_removed Cc: Partha Mukhopadhyay Subject: Re: breathed connection Message-ID: Partha said: > figured out why i love DT so much: y'see, back there when i was a > kid......fave cartoon was a strip called Bloom County....totally awesome, > opus and milo and binkley and oliver wendell jones, etc, etc......and > there was this one other character on it, a hedgehog of all thing, and it > was named.......... Portnoy. The hedgehog image still pops into my head occasionally when someone calls our esteemed drummer by his last name. (Trust me, it's not a pretty sight.) The Banana Jr. rocked! pg ----------------------------+---------------------------------- Paul Goracke | "Reality is that which when you email_address_removed | stop believing in it, | it still exists." - P.K. Dick ----------------------------+---------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 97 19:14 EST From: Soul Madness To: email_address_removed Subject: Selling.......... Message-ID: Used CD's and tapes (my twenty thousandth attempt): Contact me via private e-mail for prices, etc. CD's: Fight- War Of Words and A Small Deadly Space CIV- Set Your Goals Damn The Machine Garbage- Stupid Girl Morbid Angel- Altars Of Madness Overkill- Horrorscope Tapes: Sacred Reich- Independant Whitesnake- Here I Go Again Thanks again... Don Compton PS>>>>I'M DYING TO HEAR THE NEW DREAM THEATER...and SAVATAGE FOR THAT MATTER. email_address_removed Warrior Soul Homepage (now featuring a Whats New section, a review with more to come, liner notes, lyrics, and info on rare CD singles) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 19:07:01 -0600 (CST) From: Pat Griffin To: ThE NuGgeTjAm Subject: Altura... Message-ID: In the last jam: > Here's a quote from the article: "[Altura's] odd meters and shifting > tempos draw comparisons to Dream Theater." As do the drum beat from Pull Me Under, the bass line from Lie, and almost the whole damn instrumental section of Metropolis I, which all make an appearance on the CD. :) h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 / | Pat Griffin Reality=B2 Design | | email_address_removed email_address_removed | h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 / ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 17:15:51 -0800 (PST) From: "Scott Clinton" To: email_address_removed Subject: The Tribute Thingy Message-ID: Hello. I have been off and on with the ytsejam list, and am sort of new, but I have loved Dream Theater for a long while. I just read some post about this tribute thing. Could some be as kind enough to fill me in on this. I would love to do it. If I were to do this, I would chose A Change of Seasons, Under A Glass Moon, or 6:00. Most likely A Change of Seasons. Well that's all for now folks, See ya on the flip side?? Scott C. (Lerxst, Manchuko) (http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/Towers/8063/index.html <---it is still under construction, but go and sign my guestbook anyway!) --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 19:41:40 -0600 From: "Colonel Mustard" To: Subject: Michael Harris & Artension Message-ID: Hey, Okee... you can find some Michael Harris info on the Leviathan Records page http://www.leviathanrecords.com .... IMF is working on a page, so when that gets up, there will be info on Harris' band SURGEON as well... (a mighty fine metal band!) Those of you looking to pick up some Harris CD's, which I would highly recommend if you are a fan of instrumental prog/shred guitar, email Harris at email_address_removed and he'll send you a mail order catalogue! On another note, I found the Artension CD that I kept hearing about on the 'Jam a while back... (I'd give credit to whoever it was that raised my attention to this band, but I can't remember -sorry! :) ) Excellent musicianship! I wasn't fond of the vocalist at first, he sounds like the guy from Foreigner - whos vocalist bugs me - but its growing on me... I found it behind some CD's at a Blockbuster Music... it was highway robbery at 16.99... but where else am i gonna find it?! I was pleased to see the band is with Shrapnel Records(Mike Varney)... I can always count on Shrapnel to filter out to only excellent musicians..! The band's lyrics sound a little goofy sometimes... but if they keep writing, I think this band will rule! (That's not to say they already don't... :) ) SO - pick up Michael Harris' stuff and Artension's "Into the Eye of the Storm" ps... you can write to Harris at: Michael Harris P.O. Box 863 Lewisville, TX 75067 I'm out... later jammerz · • Colonel Mustard • · ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 21:10:14 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Some Random Thoughts... Message-ID: Howdy, Jammerz! So there I was, cruising up I-87 in beautiful upstate New York just the other day with my lovely wife when a song came on the radio that struck me just the right way, and I wanted to share my experience with you all. Being a classic rock fan as well as prog, I cranked the radio when I heard REO Speedwagon's "Roll With Changes". As I listened to the song for the millionth time, I suddenly saw it in a new light. The more I thought about it, the more I dismissed the notion that I was crazy - the song would be perfect for Dream Theater to cover! (Still clinging to hope for an "Uncovered Part II"!) The tune's got it all: Guitar Solos, Keyboard solos, great drum fills... hell, it's just an overall great song. After hearing what an amazing job the band did with "Funeral For a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding", I bet the boys could pull off "Roll With the Changes" without a hitch. Well, there's my random thought of the day. If there is an "Uncovered II", let's hope they bring back the ones they dropped from the set of "Uncovered I": Judas Priest's "Bloodstone", Deep Purple's "Child In Time", and Iron Maiden's "Phantom Of the Opera" were the three that I heard wound up on the cutting room floor. Ah, well... 'Nuff said. Laterz, fellow comrades.... - Matt T. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 21:44:39 +0000 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: piccolo snare Message-ID: "WHAT THE HELL IS MIKE USING THAT > >NASSSSSSTY SOUNDING PICCOLO SNARE FOR??????!!!!!!" > > > > I think it sounds quite good.. In fact I remember reading on the jam > several weeks ago that someone thought the snare sounded that way because > it was badly mixed.(???) I recently read in Modern Drummer or somewhere > like that that Mike has been using shallower snares lately as opposed to > the standard deep stadium rock ones many metal guys use. > > Mark I totally agree with you, the snare sounds great in ACOS > First off, I'm not a drummer, just a wanna-be (if all goes to plan, I'll > be a real one soon, tho). I just wanna mention that this has been brought > up on the list and, if I remember correctly, most of the drummers on this > list liked Mike's choice of snare. The reason I like it is that I think > it does a particularly nice job of making Mike's snare-rolls > crystal-clear. I mean, you can almost hear the impact of each stick > hitting the thing. I don't know much about piccolo snares, but I've heard > that they are very well-suited for so-called "finesse" players (e.g. > players who use lots of ghost strokes). Given what I heard on ACOS, I > certainly buy that theory, and I think it suits Mike really well. The > only thing is, he switches feels a lot (e.g., from "finesse" to heavy), so > I'd be surprised if he continued to stick with a piccolo for the next > album too, because it just isn't suited for his overall playing style IMO. > Anyone else care to offer their opinion (or correct anything I've said > here You've just said what the guy who didn't like mike's sound must know. This is an interesting subject, and I have a few things to say about it as a drummer and a great MP fan. First of all, Mike did not use a 6 1/2 " deep snare in IAW, (he actually used a 5 1/2", which is NOT considered as a Piccolo snare drum yet ) but it does sound like a deep snare actually because of the triggers the producers forced him to play with. In a Modern Drummer magazine (I think Sept' 93), there's an exclusive interview with MP by Matt Peiken, and they discuss the subject of the snare sound. Mike said he usually played a lot of ghost notes in all IAW songs, but by the time he recorded them, the producers didn't like his sound and they decided to trigger the snare in order to make the record more "listenable". The electronic system wasn't that sensitive, so every ghost note Mike played was lost (you actually CAN hear the difference between the snare sound in IAW and LATM for example, in whcich as a live performance, wasn't recorded with triggers). Then, in AWAKE, the band was already famous, so the producers didn't care whereas the snare sound would affect the record sales. What I must say is that those Mapex drums do sound great in Awake, and most of all, when ACOS was recorded, Mike was still using Mapex Drums, so don't blame Starclassic for the snare sound in ACOS. They're both great companies, the fact is that the snare mixing equalization in ACOS is not the usual heavy metal eq., but is rather more jazz-funk oriented, just like the whole song. I think MP does that on purpose, as he's an innovative drummer, he loves to keep trying new sounds and equipment to his drumming. Another thing is that he used to play with an uncoated top drumhead, which also is not too sensitive and does not catch up with every ghost stroke; but now he plays with a coated head, which also contributes to the change in his sound. Anyway, he's still using a 5 1/2" maple snare, so let's wait for his new Tama sound to fit in with the music as great as the Mapex one in ACOS! ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2300 **************************