YTSEJAM Digest 2295 Today's Topics: 1) Tribute? by Chris DiGiuseppe 2) you're crazy if you leave now by email_address_removed 3) Nuno, QR, other stuff... by Andrew Forcier 4) Savatage Live in Japan '94 by Pat Daugherty 5) QR by Pat Daugherty 6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2294 by email_address_removed (acook) 7) Jameson and Circuitry by Adam Barnhart 8) Have we all gone fucking looney lately? by durnik 9) Re: Re: Michael Harris by "Colonel Mustard" 10) Re: Lyrics based on movies by "Peter Pignatelli Jr." 11) Savatage Video by Soul Madness 12) get dt shirts here by Conrad Chi 13) Dream Disc update by "Kevin Donnelly" 14) here's something by Seth Casale 15) happy-fun-things :) cobra records Q. by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" 16) I just had to... by Jon Parmet ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 07:48:18 -0800 From: Chris DiGiuseppe To: email_address_removed Subject: Tribute? Message-ID: Is stuff about that crazy tribute still being posted to this list? If not , where is everybody talking about it?(If anyone still is) Anyways, I am asking that if you are reading this, and are still interested in the tribute, please email me. I have a plan. Its crazy, but it just might work... Seriuosly, email me (email_address_removed) if that dream of the DT Tribute is still in your mind. Thanks, that is all for today! -Chris DiGiuseppe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:46:29 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: you're crazy if you leave now Message-ID: awwww man, i'm just LOVING it here!!!!!!!!!! i haven't enjoyed reading the jam in ages.....oh. what a week. please- keep it up!!!!!! "may a blessed piece of ass be with you". god, ain't that the truth. in TOTALLY RELATED DTC, george clinton and the pfunk all stars are headed top binghamton university sunday, april 27!!!!!!!! i almost, no, i did- come in my pantyhose when informed of this...... someone's gonna get funky as hell that night..... ytsegoon *************************************************************************** david kobayashi email_address_removed email_address_removed "the desired effect is what you get when you improve your interplanetary funksmanship." -g. clinton *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:24:38 -0800 From: Andrew Forcier To: email_address_removed Subject: Nuno, QR, other stuff... Message-ID: Hello, It's great to see all the support for Nuno's new album in here, not to mention that people are asking about his concerts. I'm going to the Birch Hill show on March 7 and will post a reminder afterwards that if anyone wants a review, they may mail me privately. I can't believe I'm going to the Birch Hill to see someone other than DT. I even went into the city last time to see Extreme specifically to avoid this toturous venue... As for the TSO disc, I read in here that it sold 120,000 copies, and I know this was the entire pressing that was done. Be warned, unless they decide to reprint this album next year, that is the same number of pressings that the Trilogy soundtracks were accorded (each), and they are already being considered collector's items. Queensryche: can't wait for the new album, no matter how many bad reviews it gets. One of the best bands around, with the best live show around. Excepting G3 of course... I'm feeling spunky: TOP TEN THINGS NOT ALLOWED ON THE JAM: 10. Discussion of the necessity, offensiveness or relevance of sig. files. 9. Load (Metallica's or other *loads*...). 8. Al's Tape Trading Emporium. 8(tie). "Death Wish XX": Pat's Revenge. 7. Reviews of albums that *suck* (and do little else!). 6. Religion (condition of joining the list, also see #10). 5. DT Content. 4. Politics and Gender Issues(see #6). 3. Any post that insults the genorosity of Mr. Bahr, Merlo, and other *connected* jammers for their informative posts. (I can't believe I see these...). 2. "Flame Wars" (soundtrack by John Williams), a.k.a. the continuing saga of Jazz and Vince, I see Juliette Lewis and Joe Pesci in the roles. That's not a compliment. 2(tie). Discussing the hypocrisy of other jammers (including *you all suck, I'm unsubscribing* posts). 1. Top Ten Lists (see #2). I apologize for any contributions I may have made to the above categories, intentional or not. Please help me make this a better place by talking about music and how it affects you, and maybe even discussing a few personally relevant facts or humorous anecdotes about yourself that somehow pertain to DT and other music (*Cow Playing* IS music as far as I'm concerned). I and other jammers will be most appreciative. Oh, and since this would seem to be a necessity: EVERYTHING WRITTEN ABOVE REPRESENTS THE OPINION OF THE WRITER AND IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE AS HE SEES FIT. Andrew _____________________ When the music stops, There's only the sound of the rain... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:53:54 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Daugherty To: Dream Theater Mailing List Subject: Savatage Live in Japan '94 Message-ID: Bill wrote: Hey Jammers, > Has anyone seen this or does anyone have this. I have the CD which >is awesome and I am considering ordering the video but the price is $70 and >I want to make sure the video is worth it. My questions are mainly, 1) How >is the video/audio quality, and 2) how long is it (are there any extra >songs)? Any help or cheaper offers would be much appreciated! I think I may have this video. I will have to check. I bought it from a boot seller for $10. It is definitely pro video shot. Doesn't really seem like a live show to me... I am pretty sure I have this video. I never correlated the video with the cd until now. I will check to see if it is the same... I wouldn't pay $70 for it unless you are a diehard fan. Where are you getting it from as an import video or something? |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty email_address_removed | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:55:08 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Daugherty To: Dream Theater Mailing List Subject: QR Message-ID: Speaking of QR, Has anyone on this list had any luck with getting through the PL cdrom game? I just find it a difficult game to figure out what you are supposed to do, what you have done, and where you are... |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty email_address_removed | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:03:24 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (acook) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2294 Message-ID: > >The best -domestic- US source for Superior is apparently Dream Disc. >They have an address for checks and a phone number for credit card >orders, and as I recall the price with shipping to the US was $15 or >$16. Wes/Beavis at email_address_removed has recent experience with >them and knows the details. Not necessarily, Knights of the Round (www.knightsoftheround.com)has it for $14.99 and IN STOCK. You do not have to wait months, in fact it took them 4 days to send my copy. Only bad thing is it is $5 for S&H, but it doesn't go up much for another CD so I suggest you also get Angra's Holy Land for $21.99 while you're getting Superior. If you want it now you're going to have to email all the online record places and make sure they have it instock, otherwise it could take months. adam ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:17:16 -0800 From: Adam Barnhart To: email_address_removed Subject: Jameson and Circuitry Message-ID: I've picked up some stuff recently....wanted to, in true list fashion, comment a little on it. New Live: I agree with the previously expressed notion (at least at the moment) that it's a little short of "Throwing Copper." Of course, I think "Throwing Copper" is a great, great album. The new one seems awfully good, as well, probably headed for my year-end Top 10 list. Johnny Cash: A cover of "Rusty Cage?" I know...everyone knows he's done it. A TNN-watching friend of mine reports that it's the first single/video from the record. In any event, as incongruous as it seems in this forum, I've always really liked Johnny Cash. Anyhow, this one's loaded with gems -- "I've Been Everywhere," as maybe head of the class (though the reinterpretation of "Rusty Cage" is strangely compelling, too). And other stuff: I've had "Mercy" sitting around for a while, only listening to it a couple of times. I dug it out again last weekend and listened to it a few times while straightening up the pad. I've gotta say that my good-but-not-great evaluation of the record is beginning to fall away a little. I'm liking it about as much as "Carved In Stone" as this point. "Alone," particularly, is just an amazing song. So now I'm big on Altura. Queensryche vs. Dream Theater: From a songwriting perspective, I'd say the two bands are about a push. Musicianship, maybe the edge goes to Dream Theater, but not by too much. Both bands can play...and both bands place compelling and interesting musical ideas in their tunes (I'd point a Dream Theater fan at "Roads To Madness" and the whole "Operation: Mindcrime" album). Lyrically, I really like a few Dream Theater tunes, especially "Learning to Live," despite the whole issue of it being datable. Queensryche is more consistenly strong, lyrically, but they don't quite scale the heights out beloved bassist did on "Leaning to Live." Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Rush: Test For Echo 2. Altura: Mercy 3. Johnny Cash: Unchained 4. Live: Secret Samadi 5. Kevin Gilbert: Thud Adam D. Barnhart email_address_removed email_address_removed http://www.cfmc.com/adamb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:03:59 -0700 (MST) From: durnik To: email_address_removed Subject: Have we all gone fucking looney lately? Message-ID: Yeesh, I gotta say, these last few Jams have been rather lively outings. To those who are wondering: Chris Merlo was right. And at Ytsecon IV, you will be able to witness this principle first-hand. Alert everyone... some people are still checking the old CD page and wondering why there has been no updates since January. Look on the current CD page, there's one from earlier in the week. :) http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik is the URL. Vince... Holli... take five, folks. It's a lot easier to organize these things than y'all probably are making it. The key is flexibility. All you really have to worry about is getting the _people_ to show up and let Hector have the _equipment_ in place, and we can work out the logistics of the songs, including which songs to do, from there. What happens if only one drummer shows up and he only knows four songs? Well, that means we gotta do those four, plus Wait For Sleep, Silent Man, and Eve, plus any acoustic stuff we feel like doing. What if only one singer shows up? The entire tribute would be in their "style" so we would choose songs appropriately, and who knows which other person could or would harmonize well. The key is to throw as many options into a box as possible, and THEN decide what to do with the contents of the box. I know Vince already apologized to Holli... now let's see some vice-versa. Precious Things production is still current, I'll have an announcement about that and Winters shortly for all of you on the waitin list who missed out originally. - Mike Bahr - email_address_removed - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:13:33 -0600 From: "Colonel Mustard" To: , Subject: Re: Re: Michael Harris Message-ID: Michael's two solo releases, Defense Mechanizms ('92) and Ego Decimation Profile ('96), are both on Leviathan. His band in Dayton, Arch Rival, has two releases as well. Their first, In the Face of Danger, is on Windmill, and the second, Open Your Mind, is with I.M.F. (Imminent Music Force), as is his newest band, Surgeon and their debut, Encyclopedia of the Insane... which I might add rocks! ;) I.M.F. is working on a web page, which should be up sometime soon. Keep an ear out, later! · • Colonel Mustard • · ---------- > From: Chung Ng > To: email_address_removed > Subject: re: Re: Michael Harris > Date: Thursday, February 20, 1997 10:44 AM > > In high school and college (I'm 27 now), I was infatuated with shred guitar > albums. What I liked about Chastain was that he put out so much material. I > couldn't get enough of it. That phase has slowly passed me by, although I > still love technical guys like Petrucci, Malmsteen, etc... What I loved about > the Chastain/Harris CD was that it was the first time I heard stuff like that > live. I love live stuff cause there are no second chances and you have to > nail your parts (unless you're Warrant and do tons of overdubs...). > > Is Harris also on the Leviathan label? > > - Chung in NYC ------------------------------ Date: 20 Feb 97 14:34:06 EST From: "Peter Pignatelli Jr." To: "INTERNET:email_address_removed" Subject: Re: Lyrics based on movies Message-ID: Hey, I just watched Dead Poets Society starring Robin Williams. Towards the beggining of the movie he reads a poem that goes like this: Gather ye rosebuds while you may,old time is still. . . etc. etc. Then shortly after this Robin begins to discuss the idea of Carpe Diem. During this discussion he whispers: "Carpe Diem, Seize the Day" almost exactly the way it was done in A Change Of Seasons. To me it appears that this movie had something to do with the lyrics to ACOS. Another song I just found out was based on a movie was Megadeth's Ashes in Your Mouth. It is based on the movie By Dawn's Early Light which is about a Nuclear Holocaust. The last dialouge in the movie between the two remaining members of a B-52 crew went something like this: COPILOT: If your fighting to live, then it's okay to die PILOT: (I forget what he says) COPILOT: So, where do we go from here? (shows seen of the horizon) PILOT: Welcome to tommorrow all of these lines you will notice are in the song Ashes In Your Mouth. Chris Pignatelli CLOCKWORK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 15:13 EST From: Soul Madness To: email_address_removed Subject: Savatage Video Message-ID: Theres only 2 things that stopped me from getting the video....the price (70 F^&KING DOLLARS!!) and the fact that the CD was a bit too overproduced...maybe the video wasn't...anybody know? Don Compton email_address_removed Warrior Soul Homepage (now featuring a Whats New section, a review with more to come, liner notes, lyrics, and info on rare CD singles) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:33:40 -0800 (PST) From: Conrad Chi To: email_address_removed Subject: get dt shirts here Message-ID: I was cruising the web and found a place called 'Rocktoys'. (go to yahoo and type rocktoys) They carry some DT shirts including the Awake cover one, a 'Change of Seasons' long sleeve from the Japan shows (this is expensive), and another shirt that I had never heard of before with a red moon or something in the background. It is also one from Japan. I think there was another one as well. They also have a DT logo pin for $8.(rip off!) I finally got my copy of STRATOVARIUS 'Episode' which I think after a few listens is really good! It has the power metal feel of ANGRA/HELLOWEEN/GAMMA RAY with a heavy MALMSTEEN influence. The songs 'Father Time', 'Seasons of Change' really kick ass. later on Conrad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 13:47:31 -0700 From: "Kevin Donnelly" To: Subject: Dream Disc update Message-ID: To all who are waiting for back-orders for SUPERIOR from DreamDisc, I spoke to them today and this is the news. The Noise distributor told DreamDisc that they will be restocked (from manufacturer I presume) on March 1. They will send DreamDisc their allotment and DreamDisc will send 'em out to all those on their list right away. He told me expect it about three weeks from now; i.e. around 10 -15 March. "That'll do, pig." Thanks to Trever and Conrad for emails re. this topic. Kevin D. Currently playing : SENTENCED - Down (Century Media) ...this is a great heavy metal/death metal band from Finland with some prog metal influences. Overall it sounds a little like fellow countrymen AMORPHIS playing with METALLICA (before Load that is!). Very nice; heavy but sophisticated. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 16:19:11 -0500 (EST) From: Seth Casale To: email_address_removed Subject: here's something Message-ID: i am glad to see that everyone seems to agree with what i wrote. i was going to quit this list, but something helped me realize that the conversation i seek is there. creativity is what draws me to music, and mixing complex influences create music that i can really get into. echolyn is a band who really go beyond stylistic restraints and make some of the most interesting music i have yet heard. their album, as the world is an album that i think everyone should at least listen to ten times. another band whose music fills me is clockhammer. i know you have all seen me post about these guys before, but how can you not love a three man band from nashville who's thrashy metal segues into the coolest, mellow, jazz-influenced rock on the planet? please don't take offense, but i think dream theater can be a little too flashy. but what i don't like about them may be exactly what endears them to someone else. if anyone has any bands to tell people about please do so, i intend to check out superior as soon as i can get a copy, and ihave heard angra extensively. carolina IV is the first song i ever heard by them, and i was hooked! please keep it coming! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ seth casale albany, ny bright shadows bending, burn and release, -clockhammer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:30:54 -0600 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds Subject: happy-fun-things :) cobra records Q. Message-ID: > >Precious Things production is still current, I'll have an announcement >about that and Winters shortly for all of you on the waitin list who >missed out originally. uh oh, Mr Bahr, what have you up your sleeve now? :) anyways, i just wanted to ask if anyone knows a dealer where they can obtain products from Cobra Records in my behalf.. if you dont know what i'm talkling about, dont worry about it.. if you have info, please drop me an email. thanks ~Rip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 21:57:17 +0000 From: Jon Parmet To: email_address_removed Subject: I just had to... Message-ID: forward the following along.....Enjoy :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This assignment was actually turned in by two of my English students: Rebecca and Gary English 44A SMU Creative Writing Prof Miller In-class Assignment for Wednesday Today we will experiment with a new form called the tandem story. The process is simple. Each person will pair off with the person sitting to his or her immediate right. One of you will then write the first paragraph of a short story. The partner will read the first paragraph and then add another paragraph to the story. The first person will then add athird paragraph, and so on back and forth. Remember to reread what has been written each time in order to keep the story coherent. The story is over when both agree a conclusion has been reached. ---------------------------------------------------------------- At first, Laurie couldn't decide which kind of tea she wanted. The camomile, which used to be her favorite for lazy evenings at home, now reminded her too much of Carl, who once said, in happier times, that he liked camomile. But she felt she must now, at all costs, keep her mind off Carl. His possessiveness was suffocating, and if she thought about him too much her asthma started acting up again. So camomile was out of the question. Meanwhile, Advance Sergeant Carl Harris, leader of the attack squadron now in orbit over Skylon 4, had more important things to think about than the neuroses of an air-headed asthmatic bimbo named Laurie with whom he had spent one sweaty night over a year ago. "A.S. Harris to Geostation 17," he said into his transgalactic communicator. "Polar orbit established. No sign of resistance so far..." But before he could sign off a bluish particle beam flashed out of nowhere and blasted a hole through his ship's cargo bay. The jolt from the direct hit sent him flying out of his seat and across the cockpit. He bumped his head and died almost immediately, but not before he felt one last pang of regret for psychically brutalizing the one woman who had ever had feelings for him. Soon afterwards, Earth stopped its pointless hostilities towards the peaceful farmers of Skylon 4. "Congress Passes Law Permanently Abolishing War and Space Travel." Laurie read in her newspaper one morning. The news simultaneously excited her and bored her. She stared out the window, dreaming of her youth -- when the days had passed unhurriedly and carefree, with no newspapers to read, no television to distract her from her sense of innocent wonder at all the beautiful things around her. "Why must one lose one's innocence to become a woman?" she pondered wistfully. Little did she know, but she has less than 10 seconds to live. Thousands of miles above the city, the Anu'udrian mothership launched the first of its lithium fusion missiles. The dim-witted wimpy peaceniks who pushed the Unilateral Aerospace Disarmament Treaty through Congress had left Earth a defenseless target for the hostile alien empires who were determined to destroy the human race. Within two hours after the passage of the treaty the Anu'udrian ships were on course for Earth, carrying enough firepower to pulverize the entire planet. With no one to stop them, they swiftly initiated their diabolical plan. The lithium fusion missile entered the atmosphere unimpeded. The President, in his top-secret mobile submarine headquarters on the ocean floor off the coast of Guam, felt the inconceivably massive explosion which vaporized Laurie and 85 million other Americans. The President slammed his fist on the conference table. "We can't allow this! I'm going to veto that treaty! Let's blow 'em out of the sky!" This is absurd. I refuse to continue this mockery of literature. My writing partner is a violent, chauvinistic, semi-literate adolescent. Yeah? Well, you're a self-centered tedious neurotic whose attempts at writing are the literary equivalent of Valium. You total $*&. Stupid %&#$!. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jon *------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | email_address_removed | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------* If I'd started from the top, And worked my way down There'd be no reason, To live forever To live forever - Dream Theater ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2295 **************************