YTSEJAM Digest 2280 Today's Topics: 1) PL, tribute by Cygnus 2) DT International Fan Club question by email_address_removed 3) Petition by Ryan Webb 4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2278 by email_address_removed 5) Voice priorities by durnik 6) Re: Petition by email_address_removed 7) Re: Fareness by Stephen Daedalus 8) Re: Awake live by Omar Torres 9) Petition by Chris Ptacek 10) wait for sleep --- tribute by matt rosin 11) Spock and Kirk by Soul Madness 12) **IMPORTANT** EVERYONE PLEASE READ THIS by "Vincent G. LuPone" 13) Re: DT DROPPED? by Edward Polzin 14) Re: Labrie by email_address_removed 15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2278 by "Todd O. Klindt" 16) DRUMS FOR TRIBUTE by Philip Kaplan 17) The Petition Thing by Jon Byrne 18) Shadow Gallery - cheesy??? by "Dusty Vestal" 19) awake live by flavio maia 20) Re: awake live by Carlos Alfaro 21) Re: Taco Bell employee / tacobeli by Andrew Dietr Miller ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 00:57:57 -0600 (CST) From: Cygnus To: email_address_removed Subject: PL, tribute Message-ID: I agree with the earlier comment about PL being the soundtrack to my life. I know I was disappointed with the album the first time I heard it, so I put it on the shelf a while (understandably, considering I received Awake on the same day - I listened to that 2 or 3 times a day for the first month, just like I&W). When I went back to it, it really grew on me. I could really identify with it. Then I went on a QR kick and bought all the rest of their CDs (I only had the tape for Empire and Mindcrime - which I ironically did not get hooked on until 2 years after I bought it!). As for the tribute idea. I think it is great. I wish I could contribute, but alas, I cannot. I plan on picking up a bass this summer. Any suggestions on what I could get? But I do plan on buying at least one copy (probably more) of this tribute album when it is done. So you can count on me as a consumer of the wonderful product. ***Rob*** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 02:01:17 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: DT International Fan Club question Message-ID: Hi Jammers, got a question about the DTIFC..... I sent in my order/information some time before the new year.....and still no response. To any current members, is this a common thing? A friend of a friend had told me he sent a order in and NEVER received any response......I'm just curious....I'd like to get my hands on a fanzine sometime in the near future..... Thanks, Jeff E ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 23:05:11 -0800 (PST) From: Ryan Webb To: email_address_removed Subject: Petition Message-ID: Well, the DT petition now has almost 400 posts!! Way to go people! :) But it still needs a LOT more signatures to be effective. If you havn't yet, PLEASE go sign this petition so maybe we can get a new Dream Theater album out soon! Tell everyone you know about this, e-mail your friends....whatever it takes to get a ton of signatures! Thanks guys, Ryan Dream Theater Petition: http://www.prognosis.com/petition ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 04:39:42 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2278 Message-ID: Please take me off your mailing list. Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 04:13:27 -0700 (MST) From: durnik To: email_address_removed Subject: Voice priorities Message-ID: It just hit me... I could smack myself for not noticing this sooner. All of you arguing about vocal parts... don't. Just do the harmony part (whichever has the better harmony voice). You can add to it as well, if we do it well. Just think... DT, Galactic-Cowboys-style. :) I can play bass on Take The Time, as well as a bunch of others, if need be. The secret not many people know is that playing the bass is pretty easy compared to every other instrument. I've played the guitar for 8 years and the bass for 3, and I'm so much better on bass that there's no possible medium of comparison. It's just the simpler instrument. - Mike Bahr - email_address_removed - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 09:55:25 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Petition Message-ID: In a message dated 2/15/97 2:16:59 AM, you wrote: <> when i took a look at it after sigining it i noticed that there were multiple sigs. from the same person, are we sure that is really effective? and are they being counted as 1 or however many times it was signed? its very easy for one person to sign like 250 times. just a thought, now im gonna duck cause in come the flames! laterz, stan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:03:37 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Daedalus To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Fareness Message-ID: I think that a group of about 5 non-involved people should listen to the audition tapes. If someone who auditions listens to the tapes, they will put themselves with all the parts they want, even though they may not be up to par. I think, if you really want fareness, this is what you'll do. Be well. Matt B ==================== "You are all weirdos. Hmph." (Sam the Eagle, The Great Muppet Movie) "Now all we need is a little enerjon, and a lot of luck." (Optimus Prime, Transformers the Movie) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 12:18:22 -0500 From: Omar Torres To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Awake live Message-ID: Carlos Alfaro wrote: > > damn! i thought i was the only one (and kain and stryker) who noticed > this on the ppv... the slaping farting bass sound ,and i first thought > it was my crappy copy..then i got a hi fi stereo one (wink wink omar i > need it back) and still there.. but i have several other awake boots > from other dates ..and the bass sounds fine.. in one of them it doesnt > sound fat enough (like it had no low ) but thats better than that > farting sound yeah, i know. I'll tell Stryker, maybe we'll go over to your house and drop them, not sure about it though. And your ELP CD, it's still here! Ok now, about the Tribute, yes it has been tried in the past, and it didn't work. But I don't care! Keep on trying! Now there's even a studio ready and all. There's much more motivation now than the last time. If I could play an instrument I'd have offered myself on all the things you'd let me :) So everyone keep it going like this and we'll have our tribute CD!! And please, *PLEASE* go sign the petition if you haven't. Maybe we can make a dif. regarding DT's next CD!!!!!!!!! go here: http://www.prognosis.com/petition go RIGHT NOW and sign! later Kain ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:03:50 -0600 From: Chris Ptacek To: email_address_removed Subject: Petition Message-ID: Hey!!!! We have posts to the petition from almost a third of you! Great work! Now if we can just get the other 2 thirds.... *** http://www.prognosis.com/petition/index.html *** SIGN NOW! There are some very prominent members of this list, people who support Dream Theater hugely, that have not signed the petition yet! We know who you are! SIGN NOW! PLEASE! Also, I'm still waiting on info about the ACoS petition. If you know anything, please take the time to fill us in! Chris W. Ptacek Musician and Listener A.K.A Madsman, on IRC "Can we search for inspiration -- those ideas that just come from 'nowhere'? They don't surface when you're tHiNKinG. They just come. What we CAN do is make fertile the ground on which idea seeds fall." - Michael Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:08:00 -0600 (CST) From: matt rosin To: email_address_removed Subject: wait for sleep --- tribute Message-ID: forgive me for cluttering the jam with this, but i lost the email of the guys organizing the tribute. if the tribute happens, i want to perform "wait for sleep" - synth, piano, and vocals. i have some interesting ideas about how i would perform it. if you guys who are organizing this would get in touch with me, i would very much appreciate it! thank! -matt. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ m a t t r o s i n / email_address_removed s u r r e a l i t y / http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape/ etherealambientgoth / po box 864, college station, tx 77841-0864 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 97 12:13 EST From: Soul Madness To: email_address_removed Subject: Spock and Kirk Message-ID: Hmm, yeah I know what line your talking about in A Little Too Far but I never watched Star Trek (or whatever show this is on) but my opinion is it was probably Jon Oliva's way of making people think. Don Compton email_address_removed Warrior Soul Homepage (now featuring a Whats New section, a review with more to come, liner notes, lyrics, and info on rare CD singles) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 10:20:58 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" To: email_address_removed Subject: **IMPORTANT** EVERYONE PLEASE READ THIS Message-ID: Some people didn't read this the first time, so I'm sending it again. If you've already read this, I'm sorry for the inconvenience. _________________________ Hi all, I've been trying to think of ways to make the whole tribute thing more fair, and I came up with a few ideas. First off, Jazz and I need to talk. I think she could be a great help to this project and she obviously has the drive, so Jazz--E-MAIL ME with your ideas. I'd love to work with ya. Second, I'm scrapping the song list. I tried to pick the songs that I figured everyone liked and at least some people wanted to play, but I've gotten tooooooooo many complaints for this to be a real "fan" tribute. Therefore I'm setting up a vote. Whether you plan on taking part in the recording process or not, I want you all to vote on which songs you want to see on this. Send all e-mail votes to me privately at email_address_removed with nothing in the main body and let the subject be the song you're voting for. Everyone gets three votes. This means you can vote for your 3 fav songs (in 3 separate e-mails), and 10 days from now, I'll count 'em all up and post to the jam what the most popular songs are. However many of these we can fit on one CD, we will. Lines (in the Sand) are open now. Any repeats (like voting 3 times for "LIE") will be deleted, as will any that I get after 12:00 am MST, Tuesday Feb 25th. Okay? Third, instead of saying this person does this and this person does that, how about this: Everyone sends their tapes in the mail (even those coming to AZ) ASAP, and whoever does the best job gets the spot. Does that sound good? It's the most fair thing I can think of because I've had so many people say they want this certain part, but I've had to say no because it was taken. It makes me feel like a schmuck and I don't like it. I feel this way whoever plays the best gets to be on the tribute. The only bad part is that I'm gonna be fishing through a lot of mail. This is where others like Jazz, or Hector, or some other jammer(s) could really lend a hand is in screening parts. I seriously doubt I'm gonna have the time to go through hundreds of tapes that all say "Killing Hand guitar solo #1" or whatever. Do you all like my ideas here? Let me know what you think. Later, Peace be with you and God bless, ~Vince (http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:25:55 -0600 (CST) From: Edward Polzin To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT DROPPED? Message-ID: Maybe that's what mike meant by "personel changes." i thought about that before but wasnt going to bring it up. later. Ed WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/ BOOTLEGS: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/boots/larr.html ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 email_address_removed wrote: > I've been hearing from several (reputable) sources of mine that Atlantic > (E/W) decided to do some house cleaning and DT has been dropped from the > label.Can anyone fill me in.I'm a traveling musician(5-string bass and > keyboard sequencing/triggering) and sometimes I miss out on the music > happenings of my favorite band.Can someone fill me in on this and anything > about the new release.. Thanx!!!!!! > > > > > > YTSEJAM > & DT--noone can touch it....... > (I only wish I could keep up with > it more!!) > Peace & > LATE------------Dennis > > > E-mail: > email_address_removed > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 12:50:08 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Labrie Message-ID: Hey there... I've been a DT "nut" for about six monthes and I love them to pieces. However, I still have a few questions. Where is James Labrie from? Is metrop2 availible to buy anywhere? Is "DT Live at the MARQUEE" a good bootleg? Thanx in adavance for your time, Adam (email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:31:24 -0600 From: "Todd O. Klindt" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2278 Message-ID: > > Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:28:48 -0700 (MST) > From: durnik > To: email_address_removed > Subject: DT tribute stuff > Message-ID: > > 4. Would I be the distributor for it? I don't know, this just came up, and > though I'm complimented that people turn to me automatically, I really Hi all, Mike's message prompted me to reply. I too have a CD burner and have been pretty successful with it. If there needs to be some help making the CDs I would beg to be a part. I would really like to be a part of this tribute but I don't play any instruments and my singing voice is much lower than JLB's. If there is anything that my CD Burner and I can contribute, we would love to. have cd burner, will travel, todd ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 16:38:43 -0500 (EST) From: Philip Kaplan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: DRUMS FOR TRIBUTE Message-ID: Hey there. I havn't posted to the list about two years... Anyway, I've been reading about the tribute. Here's the deal: I can, and would love to, play drums on any of the songs. I've been playing for many years. I used to play death metal, then I got into prog and other stuff. I am graduating from Syracuse University in May, and then I plan to travel. Never been to NV, and would love to visit. Songs I want to play, but I could really play anything (excactly like MP): Ytsejam, Metropolis, Erotomania, anything from I&W, anything from Awake... I'm serious and I've recorded with many bands, and most of all, I love DT!!! Plus I play Tama! (MP's drums of choice) Please hook me up with drums on one or more of the songs... any song where you need kick ass playing (I'm not egotistical, I'm just trying to sell myself...I'm good). Thanks -Phil Kaplan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 18:07:11 -0500 (EST) From: Jon Byrne To: email_address_removed Subject: The Petition Thing Message-ID: I just wandered over to the petition page over at Prognosis, and it's left me with more questions than answers. First, what exactly are we trying to accomplish? The comments vary from pleas to let DT get into the studio to people calling for Elektra to release the CD now! Folks, there ain't no CD yet, so what good does it do ask the record company to do something that is, at this time, physically impossible? It's not like the Sony/echolyn situation, where the record company actually has two complete albums and an EP rotting in their vaults. Second, just who are we trying to reach here? If it's the record company, then I'd suggest scrapping the comments and just going with a list of fans (maybe with one introductory statement or something). In addition to the pleas mentioned above which seem to indicate we don't know what we're talking about, there are a lot of things in those comments that aren't going to make the record company any to happy. Yelling at them to "release the fucking CD" certainly doesn't inspire respect, but perhaps what is even worse are the numerous comments where Jammers are explaining to the record company guys what asshole/dipshits/idiots they are. IMHO, if we're going to get East/West to move on this, we've got to show a little respect. At least don't curse at them and thell them they're stupid, even tho' they are! A little professionalism can go a long way. Those are just a couple of concerns that I have. Is this the way the ACOS petition went? 'Jam on Jonathan Byrne, 1L West Virginia University College of Law email_address_removed (WormWood or DrNick on IRC) TAPE TRADES! http://access.mountain.net/~rael/home.htm ----------------------------------------------------------- "The bury a wasteland deep in the wilderness Poison the soil and reap the harvest Of blind indifference, greed, and apathy Sowed way back in our history." -Fish, "Internal Exile" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 04:47:27 +0000 From: "Dusty Vestal" To: email_address_removed Subject: Shadow Gallery - cheesy??? Message-ID: > > The downside of SG is the background vocals. They sound cheesy. Also, the > guitarist plays too many arpeggios which I find annoying. The pianist is > very good. They songwriting is strong except for the last track which they > could of made it flow better. > > Walter. I'm confused here, when somebody says that the background vocals sound cheesy, what do they mean? I've scratched my head many times about this. How do you define cheesy when it comes to background vocals? How do they suppose to sound without losing their power?? take care......Dusty ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:10:53 -0300 (EST) From: flavio maia To: email_address_removed Subject: awake live Message-ID: The myung's tunning on that show is a shit!!!!I have the video and the bass is very "trebled"!!!You can try another boot...I know that the song eve comes as a bonus on the japanese awake...It's a short track, right?If possible, can you send it to me as a wav file(ziped or arj)?Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!! WHERE ARE THE PROPHETS, WHERE ARE THE VISIONARIES, WHERE ARE THE POETS, TO REACH THE DAWN OF THE SENTIMENTAL MERCENARY marillion FUGAZI ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 22:01:41 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: awake live Message-ID: flavio maia wrote: > > The myung's tunning on that show is a shit!!!!I have the video and the bass > is very "trebled"!!!You can try another boot...I know that the song eve > comes as a bonus on the japanese awake...It's a short track, right?If > possible, can you send it to me as a wav file(ziped or arj)?Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!! > > WHERE ARE THE PROPHETS, WHERE ARE THE > VISIONARIES, WHERE ARE THE POETS, > TO REACH THE DAWN OF THE SENTIMENTAL MERCENARY > > marillion FUGAZI eve is not that short its about 5:10 ... so it would be a gigantic wav file.. -- Increasingly the mathematics will demand the courage to face its implications-Ian Malcolm mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:44:37 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Dietr Miller To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Taco Bell employee / tacobeli Message-ID: Whatever... anyway, I new this kid had a head on his shoulders when I met him at Birchhill. Just wanted the whole world to know, sorry for the waste of bandwith but isn't this all just a waste of band with. andy Andrew Miller Cigarettes, email_address_removed Burbon, --or-- A N D email_address_removed Betrayl...... ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2280 **************************