YTSEJAM Digest 2269 Today's Topics: 1) Fan Bafu by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2268 by "Adam and Dr. Drew" 3) Ooops by "Todd O. Klindt" 4) The Mirror Samples by Misha Horowitz 5) Reputability by "Brian Henderson" 6) DT Tribute album.. by Hector Crisantes 7) Re: Time Life Box Set by Stephen Daedalus 8) DT Tribute Album by "Jonathan Dery" 9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2266 by "Brian Pickett" 10) Re: Queensryche...ok I admit it ;) by "KorgX3" 11) Nuno and live shows by email_address_removed (Dan Temmesfeld) 12) Nuno by "Richard A. Rivera" 13) Ytse-lunch, and Herr Wacky's guitar playing by "Jeremy C. Hallum" 14) Mirror/lie.. Are there more like it? by Jeremy Kube 15) Shadow Gallery by Jonathan Case 16) Ytse-polka by "Dale R. Newberry" 17) DT TRIBUTE STUFF!!! by "Vincent G. LuPone" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Feb 97 16:41:32 PST From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Fan Bafu Message-ID: <9702130041.AA21338@tengs1> Bafu quoth: >All I have to do is >purchase their next album and I'm calling the shots on ICE CREAM FLAVORS. >So they'd better get their act together and churn out some prog-country... Actually, Mike told me once jokingly that the new album would be "industrial bluegrass". What was that... like three FREAKIN' YEARS AGO NOW??? *rrrrgh*. Zach ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 19:05:34 -0600 From: "Adam and Dr. Drew" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2268 Message-ID: Hey, I'm kinda interested in this too. Unfortunately I don't play any instruments. I do however own a CD Recorder and would love to burn the discs if that needs to be done. todd > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:09:02 -0700 > From: "Vincent G. LuPone" > To: email_address_removed > Subject: DT tribute CD > Message-ID: > > Do you guys seriously want to do this tribute CD? Okay then, let's > do it. First we need a song list. Then we all need metronomes. We'll > record at a certain tempo on .wav files at 44 KHz, save the file of us > playing to a zip drive disk, and then mail the disk to the dude/dudette who > has at least an 8 track recorder and can mix all the different tracks > together. Then we can pass the tapes around to others on the Ytsejam for $4 > or $5 a piece. I'm sure the band would like it. all for it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 19:07:44 -0600 From: "Todd O. Klindt" To: email_address_removed Subject: Ooops Message-ID: Sorry about that last post. todd ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:19:47 -0500 From: Misha Horowitz To: email_address_removed Subject: The Mirror Samples Message-ID: Ok, every time I listen to "The Mirror," the little dialogue part in the middle has a voice which sounds very similar to Jeremy Irons's. Does anyone know where this sample is from? It's not very important, but I have to find out if I'm right here. Thanx... Misha Horowitz "Evil will always triumph over good because good is dumb!" Dark Helmet, Spaceballs "But I wanted to go to Toschie Station and pick up some power converters!" "Wuss" Luke, Star Wars ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 20:17:54 -0500 From: "Brian Henderson" To: "Ytsejam" Subject: Reputability Message-ID: Cellophane Square? Has anyone ever dealt with them? They seem fairly decent, seeing as how the web page is updated at least twice a week (if that's any indication...). You knever know. DreamDisc? The Superior album arrived today (great stuff, BTW), relieving my fears that they had pulled an Apocalypse on me (I'm the kid they/he still owes $60+ worth of merchandise...). They go on my recommended list. Beware Apocalypse, though. He still hasn't responded to the physical letter I mailed him a week or two ago. I'm thinking maybe I should call and harass the bastard... Oh well, that's it for now, kids. Brian Henderson, Cyberburlap email_address_removed "My Dimebag Darrell looks more like Carl Winslow!" -- Rich Rowe, drawing class ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:24:26 -0800 From: Hector Crisantes To: email_address_removed Subject: DT Tribute album.. Message-ID: Hello, Ok, I'll put my studio up for the DT tribute album. It's a 24 trx ADAT studio with a 32x8 Mackie. It sounds great, I have some good mics, good outboard gear, good home cookin. I'm willing to lend my house for all to live in while each performer records his/her part. I'm dead serious about this, so let's get rolling. I also have a 7 pce drum set (TAMA), Marshal amps, Vox (Beatle), Piano, Keyboards, and again some good fucking food. :) If interested please form a group, pick a song, and head on down to Arizona. Sicerely, Hector Crisantes DTFreak P.S. Mike B. can do the CD production :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 20:40:35 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Daedalus To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Time Life Box Set Message-ID: See here, the problem is Mike Bahr would hijack the entire shipment of CD's going out and hold them for ransom, after making several coppies. Then where would we be? We'd be playing chess with silly little figures without listening to Metropolis II when we should be. Everyone would be upset already, then start talking about sensorship, opinions, bad traders, and cows, get into a brawl, and my original sunario of us all nuking each other would come to pass anyway. Why don't we just spare the middlemen? Nuke!!! Nuke!!! Nuke!!! Oh and jo mama told me she thinks bad lyrics are exciting. Ah oh! Insulted a mama. Souldn't o' gon dah, but I did so I better take cover. I'm going to run from my PC now bewfore it bursts into flames. Be well, while you're still alive. Matt B ==================== "You are all weirdos. Hmph." (Sam the Eagle, The Great Muppet Movie) "Now all we need is a little enerjon, and a lot of luck." (Optimus Prime, Transformers the Movie) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 21:24:07 -0500 From: "Jonathan Dery" To: email_address_removed Subject: DT Tribute Album Message-ID: I call "Just Let Me Breathe" (since all the old 7-string songs have already been taken). It's perfect for me to show off my sick 7-string chops (btw- has anyone seen the new black & white Universes?- gorgeous!). The intelude where John P. and Derek do that harmonized part that sounds like the main riff from LTL is breathtaking (does that qualify as a pun?). Well anyways, I got dibs on that one (No I don't have Fix For '96 tapes, I just remember how the song sounds.) Did anyone notice how often I used parentheses in this post?! Shit! (Jon Dery) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 21:36:43 -0500 From: "Brian Pickett" To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2266 Message-ID: > From: "Jason Breitweg (Wisconsin)" > To: email_address_removed > Subject: Queensryche...ok I admit it ;) > Message-ID: > Now I didn't like "Promised Land" at all. Ok it had maybe three or > four good songs but nothing like the glory of "Mindcrime". > It is definitely NOT a cross between "Empire" and "Mindcrime"! It is > a cross between piss and shit *evil grin*. > Wow, I am breaking my Ytsejam posting virginity. I think I am the only DT fan here who thought that "Promised Land" was the best album that Queensryche put out. I thought the music, singing, and lyrics were all much better. Their voices weren't as high and whiny, they lost a lot of the '80s sound that annoyed me, and the music, eventhough not as hard, seem to fit the songs better. Atleast that is in my VERY important opinion . I always thought that "Mindcrime" was the worst Queensryche CD. > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:03:27 +0200 (EET) > From: satu.reunanen@sci.fi (Satu Reunanen) > To: email_address_removed > Subject: offensive lyrics > Message-ID: > > It's our right to listen to whatever we want to and not let anyone > else tell us what is forbidden. Where is the freedom of > speech ?? Unfortunately, there really isn't such a thing as freedom of speech. All we can really hope is that our good friend Al Gore doesn't become president. I think, especially us in TN, remember his and Tipper's campaign to limit what CDs we can buy without a parents permision even farther than it is now. The regulations they wanted to place on music was horrible. Tipper was convinced that if you played *any* rock music backwards you could hear satanic messages in it. How many of you play your CDs backwards??? I hear JLB chanting kill your parents right now... Where's the knife when you need it ??? **********************Brian Pickett*********************** Webpage: http://pages.prodigy.com/carmina/ Mail: email_address_removed "Better to save the mystery Than surrender to the secret" -Dream Theater ************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 19:34:53 +0000 From: "KorgX3" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Queensryche...ok I admit it ;) Message-ID: > adventure is one not to be missed! Awarded the 1997 "Rakz Nodz" > award by KorgX3! Dammit! Now that you mention it, where did I put that? I think I forwarded it to Mindcrymer on accident... --(This space really isn't here)-- > wretched excuse for an album called "Promised Land". I went in with > an open mind, not having heard ANY song off this CD (As I never > listen to the radio here in Houston cuz it, to paraphrase KorgX3, > "sux nadz"). From th Huh? I've said that? Can I start a libel case here? :P (heheh) --(Bandwidth? What's bandwidth?)-- > It is definitely NOT a cross between "Empire" and "Mindcrime"! It is > a cross between piss and shit *evil grin*. Egad! Closed-minded commie bastard! I thought I wanred everyone before that this wasn't gonna be like Empire or Mindcrime. It's supposed to be happy jive stuff. At least that's what that one person from the Screaming in Digital list told me. Something on the lighter side. I dunno, haven't heard it for myself yet, though... Piss AND shit? Sounds good. Thump the toilet while yer at it. Great tone and resonance while yer sittin on it! (Even heard this from the man Portnoy, bahahah) ---(more wasted space)--- > Oh yeah, in case no one's mentioned it, I think Superior > ought to produce the new DT album !^)> Yah, I did mention this to Bernd. The sound quality of Behind is supreme. Very clean and precise. Almost over-produced as one of my lowly alternative buds would say. Perfect, to me. :) I haven't shown this to him yet, but I think he'd like it. Probably not enough foul language and songs about trippin' for him, though... --(you actually got this far?)-- > Tell me one reason why I would name bands with these kind > of lyrics to you ? I am so fed up already with all the > censorshit that I don't want more of it Ever realize that people have as much right to despise the music you like as much as you like it? Sounds like freedom to me. :) heheh... Nuff for now. Coming home to 53 letters really bogs down my letters... Later! Disclaimer: All entries posted in this text are copyrighted by KorgX3 and are subject to applicable laws. Unauthorized reproduction of any entry contained within without written consent of the owner is strictly forbidden. "Rokz nadz, kikz butz, and hott chikz" are trademarks owned by KorgX3. :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:30:38 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Dan Temmesfeld) To: email_address_removed Subject: Nuno and live shows Message-ID: >Reviews of Nuno are pretty much on track: very much mainstream >rock and not like Extreme. Sounds a bit like Beck and Foo >Fighters, but with a really talented guitarist. Best song: >Pursuit of Happiness. It's a kind of sardonic ballad, but with >a real groove to it. The album wears thin towards the end, but >the early tracks are quite good. Anyone know if and how he'll >be touring? Pulling a Dweezil Zappa and doing most of the work >on the album will make live performance interesting. He will be touring, and in fact, he's already started. He's got a his brother Paulo Bettencourt (ex-Flesh vocalist) on rhythm guitars, his cousin Donovan Bettencourt on bass, and one other guy on rhythm guitars, and another on drums. Three guitarists total...kinda weird coming from Nuno, but I guess he wants to focus more on the vocals. Dan ---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - email_address_removed / email_address_removed "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Page" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm ---+ +--- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:09:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard A. Rivera" To: Dream Theater Subject: Nuno Message-ID: I thought I'd throw in my two wooden nickles worth on Nuno's new album. Best Songs: Gravity Swollen Princess <----- best song on the album!!! What You Want Pursuit Of Happiness Fine By Me You Karmalaa Confrontation Worst Songs: Crave 2 Weeks In Dizkneeland (great lyrics, shitty chorus) Note On The Screen Door Severed Overall: The album title "Schizophonic" is very appropriate since this disc runs the gammet from industrial to alternative to pop to punk. Most songs still have a strong melody to them. Nuno proves that he has a pretty good lead voice and is an accomplished lyricist. I would say that those people into what Kevin Moore is doing now will like this, just replace the keys with guitar. As people have already stated, it's not the shred-fest that Nuno could have put out, but overall I do like it and there are moments of flash. The album is at it's best during the upbeat numbers (for the most part). However, it was great hearing Gary Cherone harmonizing on "You." Though this is a pretty good album, I can't believe that Extreme was broken up because of it. Based on "You" and "Pursuit Of Happiness" (the two songs co-written w/Gary), the next Extreme album would have been much better than Waiting For The Punchline, which wouldn't have been difficult. "Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong" -Dennis Miller Richie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:20:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeremy C. Hallum" To: "Zee' Yzeejam" Subject: Ytse-lunch, and Herr Wacky's guitar playing Message-ID: Two things, so as not to kill bandwidth. 1) The Ytselunch was a good time to be had by all. Held at 99's, noted for its tasty American food(and quadruple murders). 5 folks showed up, and we shot the shit with each other, and fielded questions from inquiring 12 year olds. "Why does it say Fix for 96 on that T-shirt? It is 1997!" "Well, it would look kinda stupid if it said Fix for 97, wouldn't it?" Silence. Didn't last long, though, there were 6 of them. 6-12 year old girls. Talking, shouting, and screaming. *sigh* Just for kicks, the next Ytselunch will be a Ytse-breakfast, held on a certain Saturday morning after a certain party in early March. Gotta sober up somehow. :) 2) Just returned from the Mama Kin Wacky fest(aka, Udder Excitement by Spherical Cow :)), and I was very impressed and surprised. (Attended by the same 4 other Jammers who were at the Ytselunch, surprisingly enough.) Impressive stuff: Damn, Brian, that instrumental piece RULED! And you made it look easier than hell to play, too. I had visions of you going up to JP someday and saying, "When we first met, I was but a learner, now I am the master!!" But the vision quickly passed. The set list was: Instrumental, Love Lies Bleeding Panama Satriani song and.. Surprising stuff: Sitting back and playing rhythm stuff on Tracy Chapman's Gimme One Reason to Stay here. A good guitarist can shred, but a great guitarist can sit back and play a cool rhythm, and that was definitely the case. Julie, Jon, Jeff and I wanted Metropolis as an encore, but people might have gone into shock over such a good song that we decided against it. Good show, man. Now I leave it to Jon to break those people's kneecaps who WEREN'T at the show. Catch ya on the flip side -jeremy +=====================================================================+ # grad student, Boston U. # To strive, to seek, # # Boston, MA 02134 # To find, and not to yield. # # Astronomy #"Understanding is a three-edged sword-- # # <*> <*> <*> # your side, their side, and the truth" # # Jeremy Hallum # No surrender, No retreat. # # email_address_removed # http://bu-ast.bu.edu/~jhallum/ # +=====================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:38:48 -0500 (EST) From: Jeremy Kube To: email_address_removed Subject: Mirror/lie.. Are there more like it? Message-ID: I am kind of out of touch when it comes to Majesty/WDADU stuff. I have it all from I&W up. Are there more songs similar or with the same mood as Mirror/Lie. Don't get me wrong I love all the other stuff but, M/L has a different mood in comparison to the rest. Let me know please, Thanks, J ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:52:34 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan Case To: email_address_removed Subject: Shadow Gallery Message-ID: Hi, I've been in a CD drought lately, so I had to go to Hastings to see what I could get. I picked up my first King's-X CD. Have to listen to it yet. I also picked up Galactic Cowboys, since that name keeps popping up on the YTSEjam. I listened to about half of it, and so far it's great. I got "space in your face" for only $6.99. I like the heavy guitars and bass, yet they retain a melody in their music. Now, as for Shadow Gallery: I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT I'VE HEARD ANY BAD CRITIQUES ABOUT THIS BAND. I picked up Carved in Stone, and I'm listening to it now. Hearing it for just the first time, I know that I love this band. That's usually how it works with me anyway. I'm either totally flattered right away, or else it gradually grows on me. But the only groups that I love are the ones I'm totally impressed with right away. It's easily the best thing since Dream Theater's Images and Words. The piano, guitar, drums, and singing are all great. To me, it seems that SG is a combination of DT and YES (and maybe a little Yanni with all that piano). Anyway, they are extremely talented and I would like to know 2 things: 1) Where can I get their first CD and 2) When's their next one due out? Comments? Critiques? Anybody agree with me that SG is tops for music quality? I can't believe I'm saying this having heard them for about 30 minutes! Jon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:07:16 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" To: email_address_removed Subject: Ytse-polka Message-ID: >EXCELLENT! We can do the "Ytsejam Polka", kinda like Weird Al's >"Alternative Polka"...... Haha, that would rock. I could actually play some trombone on that one :). Dale R. Newberry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:09:53 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" To: email_address_removed Subject: DT TRIBUTE STUFF!!! Message-ID: Okay, we've got the beginnings, but we still need A TON more musicians! Take a look at the list of songs here and let me know if you can do something for us. Wherry, Bahr, Bafu, D-Man, Newberry, KorgX3, ANYONE, if you've got the ability to play or sing on one of these songs, PLEASE let me know. I wanna get this underway as soon as possible and I don't wanna play four songs, like I'm listed to now! The biggest need is keyboardists. We have none to speak of right now and I just might start coping key parts on the guitar! Pull Me Under Bass: Guitars: Vince LuPone Vocals: Keys: Drums: Anthony LaSorsa The Ytsejam Bass: Guitars: Vince LuPone Vocals: Keys: Drums: The Mirror/Lie Bass: Guitars: Vince LuPone Vocals: Syrinx Keys: Drums: A Mind Beside Itself (Erotomania) Bass: Fernando Ma Guitars: Jake (forgot his last name) Vocals: Keys: Drums: (Voices) Bass: Fernando Ma? Guitars: Vocals: Keys: Drums: (The Silent Man) Bass: Guitars: Vince LuPone Vocals: Percussion: Take The Time Bass: Guitars: Vocals: Keys: Drums: Anthony LaSorsa Metropolis Bass: Guitars: Vocals: Keys: Drums: Under a Glass Moon Bass: Guitars: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" Vocals: Keys: Drums: email_address_removed --------------------- 24-track ADAT studio: Hector Crisantes 8-track recorder: Mark Peters CD Burners: "Adam and Dr. Drew" Hey Mike Bahr?! I know ya wanna do it!! Later, Peace be with you and God bless, ~Vince (http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl) ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2269 **************************