YTSEJAM Digest 2247 Today's Topics: 1) DT promos by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" 2) Jazz Concert/Deep Purple tree by Jon Parmet 3) rick's a sore big-toe by email_address_removed (bruce forst) 4) Re: DT's new album by LaSorsa/Matthews 5) Re: Space-dye Vest, PMU, ass-holes by Stephen Daedalus 6) 6:00 and dubliners by email_address_removed 7) Beatles (love songs) by email_address_removed (George Sumschidt) 8) marketing strategy for DT by Mike Estok 9) Portnoy's drum sound. by Jeremy Kube 10) Fix for 96' bootleg by Jeremy Kube 11) quick question (NDTC) by Mike Estok 12) by Je Suis Un Criminel 13) EMERGENCY! (NDTC) by email_address_removed (Aaron K. Silverman) 14) Randal's List by Bernd Basmer 15) KISS concert!! DTC by Nigel Bridgeman 16) uncharacteristic plugging of a local band by Jazzmin Belle Sommers 17) Arabesque-NDTC by email_address_removed 18) FW: Re: DT news by email_address_removed 19) Close my Eyes by email_address_removed 20) Oops... by email_address_removed 21) double by "Raivo Hool" 22) Re: New album due out. by Gary Cleghorn 23) Kevin Moore / Doug Pinnick by Daniel James Temmesfeld 24) by 25) Enough with the Wheel of Fortune talk by email_address_removed 26) Question for old prog fans. . . by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 17:00:44 -0600 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds Subject: DT promos Message-ID: hey, i've just been looking to round up some DT promos, i have the TTT and gettin' the LatM, and the others i know of are the CIAW and Lie ones... just wondering if there are any others and more importantly if anyone has these or any others and would like to dump them off. make an offer ;) ~Rip ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 23:09:01 +0000 From: Jon Parmet To: email_address_removed Subject: Jazz Concert/Deep Purple tree Message-ID: I got this off another mailling list. Maybe someone will find use for it. Jack DeJohnette is worth the price of admission alone! For the benefit of those in the Philly area, the Michael Brecker Quintet (w. Pat Metheny, Dave Holland, Jack DeJohnette and Joey Calderazzo) will be appearing at TLA (the Theatre of Living Arts) on Tuesday, Feb. 11. Early show @ 7 PM, late show @ 9:30 PM. For all you Deep Purple/Rainbow/Dio fans, check this page out: http://www.deep-purple.com/rosas/misc/dp-tree.htm It's got a ton of familiar names (Yngwie, Steve Morse, Cozy Powell to name a few) Jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:27:35 -0600 From: email_address_removed (bruce forst) To: email_address_removed Subject: rick's a sore big-toe Message-ID: rick audet says.... >3. I'm terribly sorry about offending you with my deafness reference. It was >supposed to be a lighthearted hyperbole, kind of like "I've told you a >million times", you know, like that. I should have put a smilely face after >it. It didn't cross my mind that someone might be so sensitive to the >comment. I meant no harm. Again, I apologize. then comments: >For me, it sticks out like a really sore big-toe. AACK!!! When will you ever learn?!?! When will the vitriolic attacks on people with physical afflictions end? I'm sure right now there is someone out in the ytsejam readership that sits reading with a really sore big toe wondering what they ever did to you to deserve such cold-hearted treatment. What kind of insensitive animal are you that you have to take every opportunity avaliable to batter away at someone's sense of self worth? Whaddya also kick puppies and steal old lady's walkers too? Someday you too may have a sore big toe!!! "You say you want everyone happy. Well, we're not laughing" HEHE!! peace jammers!! bruce ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 18:42:39 -0500 (EST) From: LaSorsa/Matthews To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT's new album Message-ID: What a travesty of justice! Is there no caring souls on this planet?!? Why oh why can't the management get their crap together and get DT into the studio? AARRGGGHH. I think that DT should at least record all of the tunes, then put them on 3 discs or however many it takes to fit all the songs, and sell them to all the people on the jam. We will be the only ones with all of the tunes in a set. We should have to pay for them but I know we all will. Then, when EastWest decides to release the cd, we'll already have it and thensome! But back to reality.... What a buncha SH#T!!!!!! Rock on, Tony ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:38:25 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Daedalus To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Space-dye Vest, PMU, ass-holes Message-ID: Number one, PMU's ending has been disgussed often. However, since it is a valid question for this digest, the boys ran out of tape before the song ended. Next, what are the samples in sdv from? What do they mean? Last, would some people please pull the ten-foot long and three-mile wide sticks out of their asses please and just chill! Opinions are an all or nothing game and I believe there is a such thing as humor, freedom of information, sarcasm, etc. Thank you. Adieu and be ell, if you can relax long enough to be so. Matt B ==================== "You are all weirdos. Hmph." (Sam the Eagle, The Great Muppet Movie) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Feb 1995 20:39:59 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: 6:00 and dubliners Message-ID: >The passage was from James Joyce's short story "the Dead", in his book >"Dubliners". Now, I reckon this has been discussed here before, so I hope >you could enlighten me a bit on WHY they used this passage in the song >6.00?? > >I've always been curious about that sample - it sounded so ... I don't >know ... it creates images when I hear it ... it is sort of mystical, >laden with meaning hidden to us mere mortals... In short, it SOUNDS very >good in the song. But to me, when reading the novel IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY >SENSE. The passage seems not very important in the short story at all, and >is not very 'mystical' or laden with deeper meaning (mind you; I'm not a >literary critic!! Good chances of being wrong!), and it seems DT have >just snipped a little piece of conversation out of its context (I know - >that's what samples are...). > >So I wonder if there has been any discussions on the jam on this, and if >you know more than I. I guess I was a little disappointed to read the >words in such a different context, where they did not at all produce the >images & thoughts as they do in the song. > >If anyone are interested, I can type the passage for you, or give >instructions on where to look for it in the story. > > Aunt Kate said that Julia had wasted away in the choir, instead of using her talent and trying to go ahead with a professional singing career. She then said, referring to the choir: "...Six o'clock on a christmas morning. And all for what?"... "Well, isn't it for the honour of God, Aunt Kate?"... "I know all about the honour of God, Mary Jane, but I think it's not all that honourable for the pope to turn out the women out of the choirs that have slaved there all there lives ..." The point of the passage is that Julia had wasted her life away in a church choir instead of using her talent to do something. This fits perfectly with the theme of 6:00, which was based on KM's friend who worked in a factory all his life and finally realized too late that he had wasted his life and his talent. Scott Houldin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 20:50:22 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (George Sumschidt) To: email_address_removed Subject: Beatles (love songs) Message-ID: Greeting one and all. I am on a hunt. In order to become the great "Hero", I need to find a cd or a tape called Beatles: Love Songs. Please e-mail me privately if you have or know of this cd or tape. Thanks in advance, G. _________________________________________ "I'm out of debt for the first time in my adult life." "'What are you going to do now?'" "Buy a house." -G.S. 11/4/96 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 19:36:37 -0500 From: Mike Estok To: email_address_removed Subject: marketing strategy for DT Message-ID: ok, here's the plan, so listen up. "Cover My Eyes" by Dream Theater (Not Marillion) is a three-minute song. This leads me to believe that it is radio-friendly. Since it is by Dream Theater, I assume that it kicks ass. With these assumptions, here is my marketing strategy. June 18: Cover My Eyes the video and single is released to television and radio. All the stations will be blown away by the complexity of such a short song. It rocks soooo hard and it really turns all the grunge-heads' heads. June 21: The Cover My Eyes single is released. This single, available in every cd store, has three tracks. 1) Cover My Eyes, 2) the studio version B-side of "Caught in alice's 9 inch tool garden", 3) the Yes medley from Ronnie Scott's. This has something for the DT fan, the metal fan, and the prog fan in everyone. July 4th: The US celebrates its independence with the release of the highly anticipated DOUBLE cd named "" (actually i can't think of that) Each cd is over 60 minutes long, but one cd is half Metropolis II (over 30 minutes) July 5th: Dream Theatre is a household name. July 6th: people realize it is spelled "Dream Theater" By December 31st, 1997: Progressive music rules the world. People take up an interest in other prog bands, and instantly Queensryche, Marillion, Superior, ad infinitum become the most powerful bands in the universe. early 1998: DT tours Europe late 1998: world peace established. later 1998: DT starts recording new cd. Ok, you get the point. :) Michelob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:35:05 -0500 (EST) From: Jeremy Kube To: email_address_removed Subject: Portnoy's drum sound. Message-ID: I just want to say for the record that the snare sound on Images sucks because it is triggered. You can tell because there aren't any accents on the snare drum at all. Maybe it was because Mike was still learning how to get the right sound out of the snare drum. Or maybe he had uneven sounding hits. later, j ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:37:24 -0500 (EST) From: Jeremy Kube To: email_address_removed Subject: Fix for 96' bootleg Message-ID: Does anyone have it? I WANT it bad! I will pay for the tape and the shipping and handling if someone can send it to me. Later, J ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 19:40:56 -0500 From: Mike Estok To: email_address_removed Subject: quick question (NDTC) Message-ID: Sorry for asking a NDTC question... Can someone please tell me MTV's general e-mail address? Please respond via PRIVATE EMAIL! (SOY*) And please, nobody send me joke addresses like "email_address_removed" or "email_address_removed", etc. I've heard them all. :) Thanks. Michael Estok (michelob) email_address_removed *SOY - Save Our Ytsejam ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:59:28 -0600 From: Je Suis Un Criminel To: email_address_removed Message-ID: Sorta New at this...anyways I'm looking for names on progressive rock bands...so if there are any good ones out there...please lemme know. Oh yeah, in "Space Dye Vest" there's this background voice talking saying "he doesn't want you to be real, to think and so have feelings"...blah blah blah, you know what I'm talkin' about....anyways, where is that from? Jes' curious. Much love. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:05:02 PST From: email_address_removed (Aaron K. Silverman) To: email_address_removed Subject: EMERGENCY! (NDTC) Message-ID: Prog Rock Nite, mankind's greatest invention since the Eventide 3000, has apparently been canned permanently at the Rock & Roll Cafe! Last time, Bob Wolf mentioned something about moving it to a bar near Rutgers. If anyone can verify this, the name and/ or location of said bar, or if you have Bob's email address or another way to contact him or Dan Gibson, PLEASE email me immediately! If anyone knows anything about a possible event tonight (wednesday), feel free to call me at work during the day at (212) 571-3434 x. 273. Thanks, Aaron email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 07:51:51 +0100 From: Bernd Basmer To: email_address_removed Subject: Randal's List Message-ID: Hi! >From: Randall Braun >Subject: PMU ending, Superior Bernd, CDs online >Sorry Bernd, sometimes I forget that you're a fellow Y'Jammer as well. I >actually posted the catalog for everything. I thought some people might be >interested in some of those-hard-to-find items on the list. Hey! No problem at all! I just wanted to correct these things because I didn't want people to think that this stuff is available. Bye. Bernd. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 18:08:22 +1000 From: Nigel Bridgeman To: email_address_removed Subject: KISS concert!! DTC Message-ID: Hi I'm back, for the one or two of you who noticed I was gone. I went to my 4th concert ever, and the first since November 93, on Monday night - KISS! It was absolutely brilliant, etc. etc. etc. But what made it even more brilliant was something I saw before the gig. A guy walks along, about two rows in front of me, and he's wearing a Dream Theater t-shirt! The first physical proof (I don't consider email etc to be physical) that someone in Australia has heard of them! Woohoo! OK, maybe he just thought the shirt looked cool (the Awake one) but still, it was a very nice to see. Ah well, I'm back. Steve Vai gig next Thursday night! Woohoo! See yis Spiff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 97 02:32:49 -0600 From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers To: email_address_removed Subject: uncharacteristic plugging of a local band Message-ID: .. If anyone out there likes Deep Blue Something, you might also like Fanny Grace. I just got in from school (that's right: 2:am!) and the KATT had them in the studio. They're from somewhere normal, but came to Oklahoma City to play clubs and get their sound straightened out... worth a listen but not a thread... The female singer sounds like an icy mix of Tina Turner and Bjork. I only mention this because they just put out their 2nd album (_Pinch_) a couple of days ago. Go to Blockbuster music and borrow it for a few minutes. Thanks for everyone who sent info about IRC. I'll try to get that working in the next few days so I can play too! Later alligator... jazzmin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 01:27:33 -0800 From: email_address_removed Subject: Arabesque-NDTC Message-ID: I got Arabesque today from Berand Tromp (bassist for Lemur Voice and Arabesque) It is some really good instumental stuff. Anyway, he says: "We now have a female singer and I play Chapman stick on half of the songs, so we have changed quite a lot. We are planning to record our 2nd cd in March 1997." If you want the cd, called Beyond the Veil BTW, just send him $15 US, and I'm sure he'll send you one. Barend Tromp Graafschaphornelaan 47 6021 XJ BUDEL The netherlands trevorw ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 01:40:56 -0800 From: email_address_removed Subject: FW: Re: DT news Message-ID: >> completed: "Cover My Eyes" (3:20) and "Hollow Years" (6:20). >k, hands up who thinks the Boys have been listening to a bit of Marillion? My thoughts, exactly. That would be the coolest thing if they ever covered a Marillion tune. trevorw ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 07:57:58 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Close my Eyes Message-ID: I agree that Close my Eyes is probably going to be something like Wait for Sleep or The Silent Man, but wouldn't it be cool if it turned out to be so short because it's so fast? I mean the guys must be pretty frustrated because of the current situation and maybe they were just in the mood for a really aggressive thrash song. Just a thought... Andreas Berger ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:02:41 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Oops... Message-ID: Uh, of course I mean "COVER my Eyes"... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:38:08 +0200 From: "Raivo Hool" To: email_address_removed Subject: double Message-ID: > acoustic or a ballad track... maybe it wont even make the final cut.. > hehe damn well all love a double cd.. :) The band could release a single regular CD and then some kind of limited edition double or triple CD. How's that sound? The band? Hello? :-) R. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 14:55:25 +0000 From: Gary Cleghorn To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: New album due out. Message-ID: In article , durnik writes > Nobody knows, not even the band, when the new album will be done. >The band has _nothing_ to do right now. They're so bored they're writing >more material... they could do 2 albums at this rate. I can't understand >why their management isn't getting them into the studio. With all that's >happened, it would probably be just fine if Portnoy produced the album >himself. After all, he co-produced Working Man. > >- Mike Bahr/email_address_removed- An independent Equinox representative Good grief i hope not , the production's ok but hardly good enough for Dream Theater. Anyway i thought Paul Northfield was on board as producer or is that only a maybe? -- Gary Cleghorn Mmmmmm... donuts whoo-hoo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 11:42:48 -0500 From: Daniel James Temmesfeld To: email_address_removed Subject: Kevin Moore / Doug Pinnick Message-ID: Kevin Moore finally updated his ChromaKey page. Apparently, he's got 4-5 mixed, and 3 more to go. ------------------------------ Sorry, no URLs for those pages. You can get to them through my links page: http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/links.htm Dan email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:46:03 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Enough with the Wheel of Fortune talk Message-ID: I don't mean to be rude, but it is obvious that during the writing of "Scarred", and LSOAD, that Pertucci didn't stop and say "Hey guys, lets put a TV game show theme in the song". Actually now that i think about it, it does sound more like the "Price is Right" than "Wheel of Fortune". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:51:17 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Question for old prog fans. . . Message-ID: Hi all, A longtime lurker here. Does anyone here remember Gamma w/Ronnie Montrose? I'm wondering if there were ever any CD releases of the album with "Man On The Ship" on it? ---------------------DT CONTENT--------------------- At the NAMM show last month I noticed that Mike Ps wife seemed to be expecting. I didn't get a chance to ask him as he went backstage just after I saw him. Should we have a naming contest??? Later all, Tom ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2247 **************************