YTSEJAM Digest 2240 Today's Topics: 1) Seeking Promos and stuff by "D. Schoen" 2) Other great prog - Phish! by "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" 3) what's with all this Power of Omens talk, all of a sudden? by Partha Mukhopadhyay 4) various junk by YtseJim 5) Re: Awake by Stephen Daedalus 6) PAL Format VHS by "John R. Kotzian" 7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2239 by Chris Ptacek 8) Re: Don't take *me* off. by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) 9) Re: Drum tunings by "KorgX3" 10) by John McCabe 11) Bad-Traders...no new ones... by John McCabe 12) Online CD stores by Rick Audet 13) prog 97 by "woot" 14) Re: prog 97 by Jon Byrne 15) How to tune your drums. by Jeremy Kube 16) DT after strep throat is very very ugly by Jazzmin Belle Sommers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:26:58 +-100 From: "D. Schoen" To: "'email_address_removed'" Subject: Seeking Promos and stuff Message-ID: Hi Jammers, I'm looking for the following DT promo's: Wanted: *12" "Pull Me Under" RockAhead1030 UK Promo *12" "Pull Me Under" RockAhead11775UK Promo(4 bands) *2cd "Foundation Forum 88" Concr.8801/8802USA Promo Sampler. *2cd "Protect the Innocent" TCD -2363Sampler (UK) *lp "Images And Words" ? ? ? ?French issue. *cd "Rock Tune Up 87" TA Netw. 31-08-92USA Promo Sampler *cd "The E. Entertainment Group" PRCD 9351-AUSA Promo Sampler *cd "The next sounds you hear" PRCD 4902-2USA Promo Sampler *cd "Another Day" PRCD 5077-2USA Promo (No Sleeve !!) *cd "Live" PRCD 5340-2USA Promo (2 tracks !!) *2lp "Metal Shop" MJI MS-268USA Radioshow (17-03-89) *cd "When dream and day unite" MCD-42259France (different sleeve) Please email me privately Thanx in advance! Denis ------------------------------ Date: 31 Jan 97 15:02:00 -0800 From: "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" To: email_address_removed Subject: Other great prog - Phish! Message-ID: Recently there's been a lot of talk about not-DT prog bands that are worth checking out. One band that I have not heard mentioned here, and think should be, is Phish. Their earlier stuff is definitely progressive, the musicians are fantastic, and their style is totally unique. If you have not checked out this band, I urge you to do yourself a favor and buy "A Picture of Nectar" or "Junta" (a double disc). Trey Anastasio has a masters in jazz guitar, which by itself means nothing, but if you listen to this music you'll appreciate its harmonic complexity. And it's also very fun, inspiring music. Any other opinions? -Neil. "Neither a lofty degree of intelligence nor imagination nor both together go to the making of genius. Love, love, love, that is the soul of genius..." Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:18:57 -0500 (EST) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: what's with all this Power of Omens talk, all of a sudden? Message-ID: Funny, I seem to recall plugging this band and this demo in november and december a coupla times with no response......even tried to put it in my year end top 5 list that i sent to Syrinx (Mike Ostrich)....but he wouldn't accept it becuz it wasn't commercially released..... for those who received it recently, can someone e-mail me and tell me what the bassist's e-mail address is (if it was on there)? the dude gave an address and asked for comments, but i lost the package too soon after i got the tape..... partha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:23:47 +0000 From: YtseJim To: email_address_removed Subject: various junk Message-ID: I can't believe how many people have not heard the Xmas 95 shows... It looks like half the list joined in the last 6 months.... You ALL missed the Tape Tree? I would love to help you people but i'm already a little back logged on trades.... Concerning the lie video...the place i got it from was Rock Video Monthly.. I don't even know if they still exist...if they do...ya might try back ordering it...but its highly unlikely Oh yeah...with all the talk of new releases...not one person has mentioned Metallica?!? //######################################################\\ // Jim Lutz "Time was never on my side, \\ // So on I wait my whole lifetime" \\ // email_address_removed -Metallica \\ // email_address_removed \\ //################################################################\\ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:49:43 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Daedalus To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Awake Message-ID: Why does Erotomania give all the major themes of The Silent Man in the middle? Just a question. I would think that maybe they would have one theme run through the whole albom or something. Be well. Matt B ==================== "You are all weirdos. Hmph." (Sam the Eagle, The Great Muppet Movie) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:47:39 -0500 (EST) From: "John R. Kotzian" To: email_address_removed (Explore The Boundries) Subject: PAL Format VHS Message-ID: Hey, If anyone has any information on where I can get some VHS tapes that are in PAL format converted to the US Standard, it would be greatly appreciated. I have two VHS tapes from The Netherlands chock full of DT stuff (Headbanger's Ball, Japan PPV, Live in Europe...etc.) but I can't watch them and it's driving me nuts! Thanx in advance. later. -John -- _________________ _ ____________________ (^) (^) <-o->email_address_removed is John R. Kotzian<-o-> (v)________________ __ __ ___________________(v) Desperately trying to figure out why Kamakazi pilots wore helmets. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:54:24 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Ptacek To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2239 Message-ID: > From: "L. Jason Hartman" > Subject: Superior CD from Dream Disc > > I see that many other like myself having been waiting for quite > a while to get the Superior album from Dream Disc. I've been > waiting since December 9th!! I gave them a call today. > The guy said that Noise contacted them last Friday and said > they would be shipping the CD's this past monday. Hopefully > we should be getting them in a week or so. Don't be annoyed by me doing this, but when someone posts something like this i feel compelled to defend DreamDisc and Impulse Records. I don't owe them allegiance, or work for the companies... I just know that Noise has been screwing them over for a while, and there has been no way for them to speed things up. > Star Wars: > >Am I the only one who took the day off from work to be at the first > matinee? Hehehehe The GF and I just saw the 11 AM show, since I didn't have to get to work until 2. > Can someone please privately e-mail me the URLs for > > - DreamDisc > - Impulse I'm too fuckin' lazy to do this by Private e mail, and I've gotten like 25 requests for Impulse's info in the last two days, so I'll post it here. http://www.primenet.com/%7Eshaun/impulse/ Phone: (630) 529-3070 fax: (630) 529-3089 I like these guys a lot. Their web page doesn't offer online ordering, and their online catalog is over three months outdated (especially when he gets anywhere from 3-15 new titles in a week). The best bet currently is to call them or write me and I'll call them since it's local. We're talking to them about setting up a secure server package so they can do online credit card transactions... maybe that will help you all out soon. If you order from them, tell them you heard of them from Chris on the Dream Theater Internet Mailing List so they can gauge how effective or useful the internet marketing would be. No I don't get discounts for it (which you can ask them if you don't believe me. :) > > that's not right. Hmm. Then I guess I don't give a Coulomb. Is > > there I Type O Negative list that i can subscribe to to get Dream > > Theater info? > > Is there, like, anything *new* going on in the Dream Theater camp? Or > have all news been beat to death already? > > Okay, that doesn't justify posting useless crap as I just did. :-( But alas, it was a joke. If it amuses you or anyone else to talk Type O on the list, go for it. I'll just jump in and drop some third rate witty remarks here and there. :) > WHats up everyone. > I have a question that I hope can be ansewred. Last night I treid to get > into the irc.dreamt.org It would have been my first time but it asked > for a login name and password how do I obtain this???? Thanks. You probably didn't put in the port number. Be sure you go to irc.dreamt.org port=2112 > ..Anyone know a good place to > find these Symphony-X, Eldritch, and > Angra's Angels Cry CDs to help > contribute to my delinquency?.... > As such I can say that the easiest place to order from was Impulse > Records. See the earlier section of my post (Impulse!) - Chris Ptacek "Bite Me, Fan Boy." - Lobo... the Last Czarnian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 97 16:09:32 PST From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Don't take *me* off. Message-ID: <9702010009.AA22098@tengs1> email_address_removed (Tara Widner) SCREAMED, >TAKE ME OFF OF THIS LIST >Why oh why doesn't anyone read the friendly reminder that Skadz posts every Saturday night? Is anyone keeping track of how many "take me off this list" posts there have been in Jam-history? Silliness. Well, I think someone a long time ago agreed to be the "unofficial" notifyer in sending people the correct instructions on how to sub, unsub from the list, but I'm not sure if he's still doing it. I already sent her the instructions (I have them memorized (like it's really hard anyway)). What amazes me is that people who've been in the 'Net, should *know* that sending such messages to the list address is not the correct way to get things done. I figured it out almost right away when I first got 'Net access. Oh well... Zach ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 19:05:30 +0000 From: "KorgX3" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Drum tunings Message-ID: > Hey all, > Does any one know how Portnoy tunes his drums? My drummer is having > some trouble eliminating some of that nasty ringing in the toms. He's been > thinking of going to those little pads that mute the drum from beneath the > head, but he doesn't want to waste the money if he can do it another way. I think my drummer at one time MacGyvered his. ( I think he got those pads now) He just duct taped the bottoms of em if I remember. Hell, it works on ductwork, why not drums? I'll ask him though. Maybe he didn,t and it may screw em up. Lemme get back with ya on this laterz. Speaking of Drums... > It was mentioned by some fellow Y'Jammers that drum machines were > used on Shadow Gallery's self-titled first CD. Although I may be > missing something, this is not mentioned at all on the CD. In fact, > on the bottom of the back page of the CD insert it lists *Additional > appearances by Ben Timely: Drums and Percussion; John Cooney: > Additional Percussion. Maybe this was in addition to drum > machines??? I think I,d said it last. I never saw that. Someone mentioned when the album was prepped for re-release in November that it was a drum machin sonce Kevin Soffera hadn,t joined the band yet (and now he left again, what a pisser) Anyway, maybe these guys played somewhere or programmed the machines. (shrug) Cuz there are alot of parts on the album if I listen for it it sounds like a drum machine to me when I listen to the cymbals. Too fake sounding and besides, each high hat hit sounds the exact same to me. Ne variations anywhere. (shrug) can anyone help me. My apostrophe's fell down. And why is cuntrakshun such a long word? Long day at work... KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore) email_address_removed "Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to." --David Arkenstone ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 21:26:11 -0500 (EST) From: John McCabe To: email_address_removed Message-ID: I know you're all lost without my bad-traders list so I've been {trying} to get some info on CD dealers(not traders, but if you do know some bad traders email me) on the internet. So if you could give me *any* info(good or bad) on these dealers I would could update my list with some reliable CD dealers. >From: Randall Braun >Subject: Online CD Sources >CD Universe: >CDNow: >CDConnection: >Music Boulevard: >German Music Express: >MusicNet AG / TeleCD >Tunnel Records: >CD SHOP GOLD / SOUND+ACTION: >Magna Carta Records: >M&M Music Progressive Rock: >Noise Records: >Dream Disc: >Superior from Empire Entertainment: >APOCALYPSE Music: Thanks in advance! John McCabe email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 21:39:25 -0500 (EST) From: John McCabe To: email_address_removed Subject: Bad-Traders...no new ones... Message-ID: You know the drill you if you trade and don't want to get ripped off read this but if you want to get ripped off, hey have fun, and skip this. *Al Balkewicz(who says he is going to complete the trade after almost 3 years!) *Jermey Haynes aka Sue Moscardini(is this person still on the jam?) *CD Cellar adversities about stuff they don't have in stock(which I found out is the norm for many CD dealers...). If there are _any_ mistakes about these people or if you disagree with what I have here PLEASE email ME(not the jam!). Okay now I know you people want others to learn from your mistakes and not get ripped off by the same guy. Well here's what you do! 1) Give me the person's a. name b. email address c. real address 2)Tell me what the problem was. 3)Tell me where you met the person(the ytsejam, some newsgroup) and if you know where they hang out at(any other newsgroups, mailing lists, or even chat rooms). 4)Tell me what was it you were trading. *********** Well hopefully next time I post one of these things I can have some recommendations for some CD dealers! John McCabe email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:18:15 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet To: email_address_removed Subject: Online CD stores Message-ID: Randall Braun supplied the following information, and here's my input on the topic. >CD Universe: >http://www.cduniverse.com/ Excellent service. Quick to ship. Good selection, but not a lot of Prog imports. >CDNow: >https://cdnow.com/ Also very good. Similar selection to that of CD Universe. >German Music Express: >http://www.musicexpress.com/ Excellent service. Quick to ship. Lots of goodies like Angra, Symphony X, etc. Only $3 for shipping regardless of the size of your order. >Tunnel Records: >http://www.csmonline.com:80/tunnel/index.html Controversial business. I've seen lots of people bitch about them on the usenet, but apparently it's because they don't stock much of what's on their HUGE list of bootlegs. So it takes them a long time to get stuff, and people get angry. I decided to test the water myself and ordered something recently despite all the hub-bub. They acknowledged receipt of my order, and now I'm patiently waiting for the goods. If I get robbed, you'll be sure to hear about it. >CD SHOP GOLD / SOUND+ACTION: >http://gold-tokyo.com/ Lots of bootlegs, BUT they refuse to reply to any of my email queries. Also, since they are in Japan and do not accept credit cards, we U.S. folks need to get an international money order or wire them the money (which is expensive as balls). Seems too risky to me. I won't take my chances with them. >APOCALYPSE Music: >http://clever.net/apocalypse They have been discussed here recently, and the consensus is that they are bad news. Avoid them. Be good. -Rick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 20:36:38 -0700 From: "woot" To: Subject: prog 97 Message-ID: Ok folks. I've been comprising a list of new prog albums due out in 97. It's not very complete, but I'm sure lots of you can help fill me in. Notice this is prog. (VH and Megadeth don't count). Dream Theater Summer ??? Savatage Summer ??? Shadow Gallery ??? Tyranny Queensryche March 17 Hear in the Now Frontier Fates Warning April 22 A pleasant Shade of Grey Galactic Cowboys April/May ??? Dr. Butcher late 97 The Good the Bad and the Butchered Crimson Glory ??? ??? Stratovarious April Visions feel free to add or fill in as needed. woot ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:09:25 -0500 (EST) From: Jon Byrne To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: prog 97 Message-ID: At 07:41 PM 1/31/97 -0800, Woot wrote: >Ok folks. I've been comprising a list of new prog albums due out in 97. >It's not very complete, but I'm sure lots of you can help fill me in. >Notice this is prog. (VH and Megadeth don't count). > >feel free to add or fill in as needed. Add Marillion's _This Strange Engine_, due sometime in April. I think the new Enchant, _Wounded_, is due in the US in March/April. Also there's a double CD concept album on the way from IQ, but I don't know when. It's gonna' be a hell of a year. :) Jonathan Byrne, 1L West Virginia University College of Law email_address_removed (WormWood or DrNick on IRC) NEW WEBPAGE! http://access.mountain.net/~rael/home.htm ----------------------------------------------------------- "I told her eating people wasn't pleasant But she laughed a snake eye laugh And walked away from me." -Hogarth & Helmer, "Cannibal Surf Babe", Marillion ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:26:14 -0500 (EST) From: Jeremy Kube To: email_address_removed Subject: How to tune your drums. Message-ID: I can answer the question about tuning your toms. 1. Undo all the lugs on the tom that you wish to tune. 2. Take off the drum head. 3. Hold the drum head level with your eyes, if it isn't perfectly straight, throw it away and buy a new one. (about $11-15.00 at a music store) check the rim of the head too. If it's warped trash it. If it's good: 4. Buy a box of tissues and a roll of duct tape. 5. On the bottom of the head: 1. Fold over about 8 tissues (once in half and fold once lengthwise. 2. Take the duct tape and tape the tissues to the bottom of the head. 6. Reattach the head the tom and tighten to disired taughtness. DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN this will cause a warping of the head and make sure that the when you tighten the head you alternate lugs. (i.e. start at the bottom and go to the other side and tighten.) Do it slowly, so that you get even tightening. OR: Repeat steps 1-3 and instead of tissues: Use carpet pading ($2-3.00 a square foot.) and cover all the wood inside the tom. Use short staples to affix the pading to the wood inside the tom. DO NOT: Do this to a snare drum. It will sound aweful. Only do it to toms or cymbal (on cymbals use just duct tape ripped in half and make an "X" across the cymbal if the cymbal sucks) Any other questions or suggestions e mail me directly. Later, Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 97 23:52:56 -0600 From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers To: email_address_removed Subject: DT after strep throat is very very ugly Message-ID: I've had strep throat the past couple of weeks. Really nice welcome-back-to-school present, m? I usually sing while driving to and from school, which is an hour each way. So after four months of two hours per day "rehearsal", I was doing pretty well. Then came Christmas break, then came strep throat. So we finally get to the part where I mention that I'm bellering along with KJLB, on _Awake_, and "Voices" comes on. Sounded like giving birth through my tonsils. "Voices discussing mehhhhhhhhhhxxxxkkkk ack ack shit!" Hey, that ain't how it goes. Does anyone have any suggestions for how to get back to that nice clear sound? My crossover has shifted way low, and I sound more like Michael Hutchence than Annie Lennox. At least I can do that growly thing like everyone else now. (OOh, big achievement!) Over the past week it's gotten better, so is it just practice practise (spell it how you like) or is there a quick cure? Frustrated, Jazzmin ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2240 **************************