YTSEJAM Digest 2226 Today's Topics: 1) Topics. by "KorgX3" 2) Re: SAVATAGE new album schedule, CRUE (Keiji!) by "KorgX3" 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2225 by Adam Barnhart 4) Tori concert.. by Irene Raceu 5) Mercy Fuck by Rick Audet 6) Saigon Kick by email_address_removed 7) Re: Tori concert.. by Taco Belhai 8) Power of Omens by Chris DiGiuseppe 9) Re: Sepultura by email_address_removed (zack gemmill) 10) Under 21, Gary Hoey, G3 by "Vincent G. LuPone" 11) Tori concert/slopics by saveur 12) NDTC - Frankie and the Knockouts by Eddy M 13) by Scott Cook 14) Re: Theatertre by Gary Cleghorn 15) Re: Mercy Fuck by Carlos Alfaro 16) burners by Brian 17) Re: Mercy Fuck by email_address_removed 18) LaBrie & Petrucci by Steve Borzilleri ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:15:28 +0000 From: "KorgX3" To: email_address_removed Subject: Topics. Message-ID: > Hi all, > I was just wondering if there are any Saigon Kick fans on here. > Anyone have their new one - 'Devil in the Details'? I loved 'The Lizard', > but didn't care for the first album. Is the new one along the lines of > Lizard? Thanks in advance for any info! Deveil in the Details is well, nothing like the Lizard. It's nothing really like their first album, either. It's more alternative sounding, I think, but I still like it alot. This is abviously a band that can't stick with one style for long. The closest 2 I think were Water and the Lizard. Doesn't that guy that sings "Junkie" on Vai's Flexable CD sound like Meatloaf to anyone? I can just see Meatloaf scrounging through the alleys of NY looking scrabbling up enough money for another speedball. :> > I know when I bought mine they were only available in bridge. I > like some of the DiMarzios for neck... the Norton, and the standard > PAF Pro are great I think these are available now in both the neck and bridge positions. The latest DiMarzio catalog isn't specific, but gives to cat. numbers, so I'm assuming that they are available that way. I'll probably change the pickups out again soon. The ones I got now are OK, but I think I'll try a different combination. a FRED and a Steve's Special maybe. I can get the old one's put in my Washburn, I guess... (PAF Pro and Evolution). Anyone know th FRED and SS makes a good combo in an Ibanez? I kinda wanna try it before I buy it... Sigh, at least I'm not sending 30 posts a day anymore... . KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore) email_address_removed "Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to." --David Arkenstone ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:21:44 +0000 From: "KorgX3" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: SAVATAGE new album schedule, CRUE (Keiji!) Message-ID: > They also go on to say that there is no title yet and it > is possibly going to be a concept album. They will also > be releasing all SAVATAGE imports to US members at lower > prices. > > mmmmmm.....a summer release. Thinking what I am? Sava and DT touring? Hghly unlikely, yet I would gladly sit through a 5-hour show if both bands headlined the tour. "The Savage Dreams Tour" <--- Interesting thought, no? Yet didn't they skip touring the US after the last album? Or did they not tour at all. Never saw tour dates for it... Dreams can come true... Unless you're an insomniac or a somnambulist... Later! KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore) email_address_removed "Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to." --David Arkenstone ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:43:15 -0800 From: Adam Barnhart To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2225 Message-ID: >From: Soul Madness >"In conclusion, please be wary where authority reigns, all our leaders >answer to silent bosses where profit fills their greed, think before action, >learn before acceptance, decide what you should be...media children >passified, crosses stand where the dead man die, governments hide behind >religion..kids like us get thrown in prison"- Warrior Soul- In Conclusion Wow! I'm a pretty big Warrior Soul fan...have been since the first record (I guess it's not that big a deal when your first record's your biggest success, huh?). Particularly cool here is picking up from "In Conclusion," which is one of the two or three best songs on the album, but is seriously overlooked by those people who know who the hell the band even is...well, was....I'm impressed, anyhow. Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Bad Religion: The Gray Race 2. Flotsam and Jetsam: No Place For Disgrace 3. Eric Gales Band: Picture Of A Thousand Faces 4. Rush: Power Windows 5. Black Sabbath: We Sold Our Soul For Rock And Roll Adam D. Barnhart email_address_removed email_address_removed http://www.cfmc.com/adamb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 23:10:12 -0500 (EST) From: Irene Raceu To: email_address_removed Subject: Tori concert.. Message-ID: Hi all, I saw that Tori concert for RAINN on Lifetime that was mentioned here on the jam, and it was incredible! I think that had to be one of the best performances I've heard by Tori! Just the emotion she put into every song was amazing! "Winter" just about brought me to tears. I have "Little Earthquakes" so I've heard the song MANY times, but it has never sounded so great :) She also had Maynard (sp ?) from Tool guest sing with her for "Muhammed My Friend" and that sounded great! Never realized how good of a singer he is too! She also did "Cornflake Girl", "Talula", "Me and a Gun", "Silent All These Years" and "Pretty Good Year". I didn't get to hear all of that song cause my dad came in and wanted to watch the news :( But I'll watch it again tonight at midnight for the repeat :) Unfortunately, I wasn't able to tape the show :( My cable box is broken, therefore nothing can be recorded from tv (can't set channel for the VCR) :( Has anyone here taped it by chance? And if so, could I please get a copy? I'll send the blank tape, postage and I'd be more than happy to trade something along with that (I believe I can tape from VCR to VCR still, I don't think that's messed up)! I just really want a copy of this... this was truly one of the best live performances I've ever seen! I'm really hoping that she'll put this out on video to raise funds for RAINN. I would definitely get a copy for the fact it's a great Tori performance, and also because it's for a great cause! I knew Tori was a great musician, but this shows that she's a great person too. She helped start RAINN (Rape, Abuse, Incest, National Network) after this 14-year old girl was brought backstage hysterical! She talked to her and asked what the problem was. The girl asked Tori if she could please come with her. So Tori asked why she wanted to. And the girl responded that the previous night she'd been raped by her step father, tomorrow night he'd rape her again, and she'd also be raped when she got home that night. Tori called her manager and told him that she was bringing the girl with her, that she was going to get her out of that situation. Her managers eventually made her realize that she couldn't do that because it wasn't legal, and so that's when she decided to start RAINN. I just thought that was so great... how she was about to put herself at risk with the law to help this poor girl. And then going out and starting this Network, was just wonderful. Tori truly is amazing! If anyone taped this, and wouldn't mind making a copy for me (like I said, I'll send the tape, postage, AND a trade) please e-mail me personally and let me know. I'll let you know what I have to trade that may be of interest to you. (Tori, DT, etc :) Thank you so much :) Take care, Irene ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 23:38:12 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet To: email_address_removed Subject: Mercy Fuck Message-ID: email_address_removed (whatever your name is) wondered, > Sorry, but I have to ask. WTF is the "Mercy Fuck" version of ACOS? Good question. My understanding is that the line you hear in ACOS that goes "I don't need your sympathy to get me through the day" was originally written as "I don't need your mercy fuck to get me through the day", and James sang (sung?) it that way at one show. Word has it that it was the Birch Hill '95 show. -Rick Audet ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 00:56:09 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Saigon Kick Message-ID: I'm a big SK fan myself and yes I do have their most recent ("Devil in the Details"). In my opinion, it's the best of the 4. They're currently working on their new album... I think this one might actually be on a major label. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 01:21:45 -0500 (EST) From: Taco Belhai To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Tori concert.. Message-ID: > was amazing! "Winter" just about brought me to tears. I have "Little > Earthquakes" so I've heard the song MANY times, but it has never sounded so > great :) She also had Maynard (sp ?) from Tool guest sing with her for > "Muhammed My Friend" and that sounded great! Never realized how good of a > singer he is too! She also did "Cornflake Girl", "Talula", "Me and a Gun", Totally agree. Her version of "winter" kicked! She was really into it. I almost busted a nut when the lead singer of Tool sang with her. That was so amazing. He truly has an excellent voice. I had no idea that the two of them were friends. You just wouldn't expect it. Brandon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 01:39:20 -0800 From: Chris DiGiuseppe To: email_address_removed Subject: Power of Omens Message-ID: I know we've talked about this band before (Power of Omens). But I just got the demo in the mail and I have to say I am really impressed. I suggest all of you get ahold of it ASAP and check it out. That is all! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 22:39:59 PST From: email_address_removed (zack gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Sepultura Message-ID: <9701250639.AA24211@fas2> (hmm, this is the first 'jam I've read in a week, scanning the subject lines, I thought I'd better not, though I probably missed some stuff...) Michelob said that anyone into Pantera should check out Fear Factory. I think that said people should check out the new Nevermore (The Politics of Ecstasy), it ROCKS!!! later all, Zach ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 01:10:32 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" To: email_address_removed Subject: Under 21, Gary Hoey, G3 Message-ID: At 01:22 AM 1/22/97 -0800, you wrote: >The show is 21 And Over, so all you shredders who haven't been alive for >that many years, you aren't mature or responsible enough to enjoy Mr. >Hoey's music as it is being played by Gary Hoey himself right in front of >you... I feel special that I saw Gary Hoey about a month ago, and I AM under 21. Anyway, here's my point. He was a guest guitarist for some stop of the G3 tour and he said that there would be a G3 video and possibly some type of CD coming out this year. Today, this was kinda confirmed for me when I picked up the new Metal Edge. It talks about the same and it mentions the second swing of G3 coming this summer. YEAH!! Maybe in support of a new Satch album. hmm......... Peace be with you and God bless. ~Vince (http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 03:26:11 -0500 From: saveur To: email_address_removed Subject: Tori concert/slopics Message-ID: hey folx, to all 3 who care and the rest of the ircers: yes, i'm alive. no, i wont be on the # this semester (much). yes i FINALLY got my Ibanez SR5005. whewt! one word: way smoove. Brandon wroted: >Totally agree. Her version of "winter" kicked! She was really into it. I >almost busted a nut when the lead singer of Tool sang with her. That was >so amazing. He truly has an excellent voice. I had no idea that the two of >them were friends. You just wouldn't expect it.=20 i hate to sound |33+35+ but...ah, fuk it. anyone who knows Tori and/or Maynard would not be surprised. there were rumours circulating before TOOL's latest, =C6nima, was released that Tori would be guest appearing. and both artists have mentioned each other in past interviews (available at: http://toolshed.down.net and http://www.tori.com and the millions of other sites). DTC: now that i've finally got my 5-string, i can figure out all of John's nifty bass lines. and of course the first DT riff to spew from my bass...the Mirror (hey, wut's the time sig for that anyway? hehe). 2nd...the balls n' chunk beginning of ACOS. song-that-makes-me-wish-ibanez-made-a-sr5006...LSOAD. the line James sang at Birch Hill '95: "I don't need your fuckin shit to get me through the day." anyone else who cant get "Discoteque" outta their head? john j . c h r i s t i a n s a v e u r @ c a i s . c o m e n s h t t p : / / w w w . c a i s . n e t / j j e n s / ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 19:26:26 -0800 From: Eddy M To: email_address_removed Subject: NDTC - Frankie and the Knockouts Message-ID: Have any of you heard of a band, dating back to the early 80s entitled "Frankie (ke?) and the Knockouts"? I am interested in obtaining a cd of theirs but I know not of the tile.. and all their stuff is supposedly out of print.. They did three albums - selftitled (1981) Millenium Below the Belt (1982) Millenium Makin' the Point (1984) MCA MTP is the best of the releases. It has Tico Torres (Bon Jovi) on drums and ex Starz member Bobby Messano on guitar. Bon Jovi re-recorded one of the tracks from this album on their debut. Eddy in Oz -------------------------------------- * EDDY M * email_address_removed.au Beat Magazine Rock n Hard column Melbourne, Australia -------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 01:13:14 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Cook To: Dream Theatre list Message-ID: >>Motley Crue is back with Vince Neil.... >Is that true they will come out on American Music Awards next week? Yes, on Monday night on ABC. They are billed a a surprise reunion. ---------------------------------------------- >Scott Cook asked about Holy Soldier's bassist. His name is Andy Robbins >(exact same name as my brother - whoa) and he has never left the band as >far as I know. He was on their original self-titled and their most recent >release. Incidently, they gave up their make up and "stage" hair years >ago. That was all the rage in metal in the late 80's/early 90's, but as >most metal acts (Kiss excluded) they've since moved on to the jeans and >long straight hair look. For those who care, they are now on the christian >label Forefront. This is good to know. Andy is one of the nicest guys I've ever met in my life. I hope they become mega sucessful; no one deserves it more. I am very glad that whole glam look is gone, that used to drive me nuts. I always felt like taking the guys in Poison and slapping them around and say "IT'S THE MUSIC STUPID!" I mean, if they wanna be girls there's an operation they can get. Scott (who's wondering if he should've sent this to Tempus first so he could approved the length and content of the post, as well as my sig) ************************************************************************** Penthouse magazine won a case to sell magazines at Military stores; and to celebrate they are going to have a 10 page pictorial of Rosa Parks naked on a lunch counter. Bill Maher - January 24, 1997 87% of NFL players said they'd rather play on grass, and Michael Irvin said he'd rather play on Cocaine. Conan O'Brien - Jan 24, 1997 ************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 11:28:08 +0000 From: Gary Cleghorn To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Theatertre Message-ID: In article , Chris Oates writes >ProgRockBoy: Nice explanation, but not correct. That's why we have a >Theater arts department here and I used to see movies at the UC Theatre >regularly in Berkeley. > >The real difference in US English is this: > >If one wishes to sound intellectual, snooty and pretentious, or British, >one should use Theatre. > >If ya wanna sound like a normal American, go with Theater. My understanding is that some words in the English language were confusing to many of the migrants who came from Europe in the early history of North America, so lots of words were changed to give them a more phonetic look. Since the band are from North America and wish to use Theater then that's what we should use. Both words are equally valid and one is not better than the other. -- Gary Cleghorn Mmmmmm... donuts whoo-hoo ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 07:55:52 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Mercy Fuck Message-ID: Rick Audet wrote: > > email_address_removed (whatever your name is) wondered, > > > Sorry, but I have to ask. WTF is the "Mercy Fuck" version of ACOS? > > Good question. My understanding is that the line you hear in ACOS that goes > "I don't need your sympathy to get me through the day" was originally > written as "I don't need your mercy fuck to get me through the day", and > James sang (sung?) it that way at one show. Word has it that it was the > Birch Hill '95 show. > > -Rick Audet Well actually..in birch hill he says "i dont neeed your fucking shit..to get me thru the day" ... i dont know which one's the mercy one -- Seize the day, I heard him say : "Life will not always be this way, Look around...hear the sounds... Cherish your life,while you're still around... " WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 08:59:00 -0800 From: Brian To: email_address_removed Subject: burners Message-ID: With all of this talk about CD burners skipping and all, I'm very unfamiliar with the whole burner thing. About the same time this thread came up, I got a mail offering for me to buy a 2 CD Tool bootleg burned from the master copy and pressed on a gold disk. It's only $45 so I'm suspicious. Any advice? ======================================================================== "Are you gonna bark all day, little ----- doggie, or are you gonna ---- ------------- ---- bite?"-Micheal Madsen, ---- - ---- Reservoir Dogs -- - - - - - - - -- "Just victims of the in-house - - - - - - - drive-by. They say jump, - - -- - -- - - you say 'How high?"-Rage -- - - - - - - - -- Against The Machine ---- - - - ---- later--------------Brian ---- ------------- ---- ----- ======================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 10:34:25 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Mercy Fuck Message-ID: In a message dated 1/25/97 4:47:45 AM, you wrote: <> at the BH95 Home for the holidayz tour it was "I dont need your fucking shit to get me through the day" Laterz, Stan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 07:37:06 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: LaBrie & Petrucci Message-ID: > From: Chris Ptacek > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2219 > > Well, I'm sure I hear Delay on some of James's stuff. On just about every song. > I would also count pretty highly on there being all kinds of compression > and mild chorusing on everythinghe sings. That's not a flaw... it's > just how they make vocals work on an album. The production on "A Change Of Seasons" is real big on this. His voice almost sounds electronic at times, much more sterile than the Awake album. Especially during the Another World section when he's singing slowly and hitting a lot of long, ringing notes with his big vibrato. On notes like "another WOOOORLD" or "deep in SORROOOW," there's obviously something suppressing the natural shift in volume that happens during vibrato. Unless James has figured out how to keep his voice at exactly the same volume while changing his pitch and singing higher notes with more air and a full vibrato, he's got effects up the wazoo keeping reins on his cannon. And that sucks. I don't care how "even" that makes everything sound, when LaBrie belts out those high notes he really packs a wallop. Anyone who's seen DT live can attest to this fact, and I just don't hear those blasts coming through on ACOS. I think Prater had LaBrie singing through a Midas Muffler to keep his voice in check or something... (I mean it does say in the FAQ how LaBrie worked with the Canadian Mafia blowing up cars before he got into singing.) If The Three Tenors get together next year for another show, someone tell them not to invite David Prater. He'll destroy Pavarotti's volume swells. > +--------------------------------+-------------------------+ > | You took away my hero, | Michael Burstin | > | Now take away my pain. | Brandeis University | > +--------------------------------+-------------------------+ > | John Petrucci, Dream Theater | Lets go Pens | > +----------------------------------------------------------+ I don't know if anyone's discussed the lyrics of the new material from the Fix For '96 shows at all, but from the few quotes I've seen from "Take Away My Pain" I'm guessing that "you" is Death (possibly Cancer), and "hero" refers to Petrucci's father, not James Cagney (?) singing in the rain. ??? Bafu Vai ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2226 **************************