YTSEJAM Digest 2211 Today's Topics: 1) Zebra, and an open letter Vince by Jazzmin Belle Sommers 2) cover band thingie by "Hugh G. Rection" 3) Nuno's CD by Taco Belhai 4) Nirvana pep band? by "Hugh G. Rection" 5) Re: an open letter Vince by "Vincent G. LuPone" 6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2210 by "Richard A. Rivera" 7) RE: ARTENSION ! by email_address_removed 8) Fifth Angel - NDTC by email_address_removed.ch 9) tellus,christian bands by email_address_removed 10) Nine Miles by The Digital Man 11) ------ angra ------ by Dieter Cailliau 12) NDTC - Kirk by Eddy M 13) another literary reference, and stuff by Keith Aspinall 14) Re: NDTC - Kirk by "Louie The Drunken Irishman" 15) Play with me and JP column by email_address_removed 16) devin by "Raivo Hool" 17) Re: John Petrucci 7-string by email_address_removed 18) Band not on Magna Carta by email_address_removed 19) Re: RATT unplugged, Portnoy bands by email_address_removed.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara) 20) Studio Questions by "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" 21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2210 by email_address_removed 22) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2210 by email_address_removed 23) Artension, Enchant, Steve Morse Band, TSO by "Robin L. Campbell" 24) Boots by "Louie The Drunken Irishman" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Jan 97 23:59:35 -0600 From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers To: email_address_removed Subject: Zebra, and an open letter Vince Message-ID: 1. Zebra is (are?) releasing an album sooner or later in select towns -- New York, New Orleans, and Dallas I believe. They keep playing little clubs up and down the east coast. There exists a Zebra page, go to your favorite search engine and look. 2. Vince, I have noticed that your .sig often clashes with your posts. IMNSHO, and I do mean this in a non-judgmental way, it would seem that to actually type out "Peace be with you and God bless" would reinforce the words you routinely use to end your posts. I have seen you express intolerance and negativity and then merrily go and wish us all well. This concerns me and I am using ytsejam to express this concern. If you would hear me say this to you, it would be in a soft but firm tone of voice. Partly it's because you've made a (sometimes two-faced) routine of your religion. Partly because it's not polite to assume that any reader would WANT a blessing from your god. I say that not to invite people to try to "save" me, but because people reading your harsh words may not want the sort of blessing a god who tolerates this behavior would give. If it is the Christian religion you are claiming, please remember that one of the things other Christians are supposed to do is to help you uphold the values and rules. Fellows are to correct you in a community setting, presumably so others can learn from the example. I regret having to do this. I had hoped that you would notice the inconsistency and correct it yourself. I feel like everyone's mother, or like a jailer, or a judge; I do not feel proud or happy about this. But I think you should know that the casualness of your tag line is something to think about -- if it bothers ME (very little does), then it must be really annoying to other people. Sorry. Jazzmin Sommers ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 00:19:36 +0000 From: "Hugh G. Rection" To: email_address_removed Subject: cover band thingie Message-ID: >Bass: Frank Bello (Anthrax), or the guy who's touring w/ Steve Vai Oh, man, can this guy ever get a PHAT groove going. Yeah, I was impressed by him about as much as I was Vai when I saw him a while back. Dale R. Newberry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 01:23:07 -0500 (EST) From: Taco Belhai To: Dream Theater Subject: Nuno's CD Message-ID: Does anybody have (is it out yet) Nuno Bettencourt's new solo CD? What is it like? Brandon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 00:31:00 +0000 From: "Hugh G. Rection" To: email_address_removed Subject: Nirvana pep band? Message-ID: Hey, man, just 'cause a high school band does something doesn't make it any less legit. My old high school marching band did Yes' "Roundabout" and Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody" in the same show once. Hehe, I also saw a marching band do "School's Out" :). Dale R. Newberry P.S. Sorry I'm responding to older posts, but I am WAY the heck behind on jams, man. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 00:09:33 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: an open letter Vince Message-ID: Hello all, I'm going to try to waste as little bandwidth here as possible. The matter I am replying to is being handled via private e-mail. I see no reason to clog up the ytsejam with my defense of myself. If you actually want a copy of my defense or you wnat to know what I have to say about the subject matter, feel free to e-mail me and we'll talk privately. Thank you. Peace be with you and God bless. ~Vince (http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 02:35:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard A. Rivera" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2210 Message-ID: On Mon, 20 Jan 1997 email_address_removed wrote: > > > Well, as nice as that would be, it'd be difficult to do, and even more > difficult to convince the engineers, producer, etc., to do that. The only > kinds of music that are recorded all together are orchestras, live > recordings (duh), and jazz/improvised music (because a lot of that relies on > band members giving each other visual cues as to what's going on). Recording > instruments separately for all other kinds of music has become and industry > standard for two reasons: [snip] Hi. I'm the one that originally posted that article in Metal Edge. I don't think that Mike meant that they were going to record the album "live," which is what you are referring to when you talk of everyone playing at the same time. I'm pretty sure that he just meant that they were going to concentrate on one SONG at a time, as opposed to doing the drums for the whole album at once, and then going back and over dubbing the guitar for the whole album, etc.... This means that they are going to complete one song before moving on to the next one, thus allowing them to give different songs different textures. That's all. Richie P.S. And for the record, it is MUCH cheaper to record an album "live," assuming you're working with good musicians. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:39:46 -0800 From: email_address_removed Subject: RE: ARTENSION ! Message-ID: Yup, got it, like it. Got Mayodome too. Good stuff. Anyone know if Shrapnel has any more progmetal artists? T ---------- Anyone heard the Artension album? IT's GREAT Kris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:43:04 +0100 From: email_address_removed.ch To: email_address_removed Subject: Fifth Angel - NDTC Message-ID: What ever happened to Fifth Angel? I remember seeing one of the former members (maybe the excellent guitarist Ken Mary) in a recent outfit. Could anyone please help me out on this? Cheers, ............................................. D A V E K I N G b a s s & v o x M T 2 0 p r o g m e t a l ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 00:56:53 -0800 From: email_address_removed Subject: tellus,christian bands Message-ID: >> tellus is..a christian band, so you have to deal with that. > Heck, there have been cases where I heard stuff, loved it and later >found out it was a christian band - like the Galactic cowboys. (I found >them on a christian band list at http://www.m8.com/christian/). No matter >what their religious views, being a great musician is what is important for >the music I listen to. >Thoughts from other jammers? Yeah, same thing happened to me when I bought one of Kerry Livgren's bands A.D. I love all of Kansas' and Livgren's stuff. ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 03:37:27 -0500 (EST) From: The Digital Man To: "Ytse Fuckin' Jam" Subject: Nine Miles Message-ID: Hey folks. I post today with a personal request. My band Nine Miles (which includes fellow YJammer Richie Rivera on drums) recorded two songs this weekend. I am dying to know what other people that share my musical interests (namely, you) think about the stuff we wrote. I am interested in *all* comments, as long as they're brutally honest. Gripe, whine, bitch (that's for you, Mads :), nit-pick. Don't hold back. I want to know everything. What do you think of the lyrics, the songwriting, the arrangement, apparent influences, total rip-offs, spill it all. You can download absolutely gigantic .wav's (zipped, ~6 mb and 3 mb) or somewhat less gigantic .ra's (~1.5 mb) from: http://www.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/ixmi.html. Oh, btw, don't tell me that the recording quality sucks. We recorded on a four track in Richie's basement. I *know* it sucks, but it's the best we could do. It actually sounds pretty good on the cassette. :) Thanks in advance everyone! -d BTW - everyone go sign up at www.planetall.com. It rules! E-mail Bogie (whose e-mail address escapes me at the moment) for info! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster email_address_removed "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn email_address_removed /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:00:23 +0100 From: Dieter Cailliau To: email_address_removed Subject: ------ angra ------ Message-ID: Does anyone know a band called 'angra'? I think they are from Brazil. And I think the voice of the singer is somethimes very much like James' voice. If you have some info, mail please. thanks! bey (tot ziens hopelijk ooit eens!) Dieter (effX) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 22:55:22 -0800 From: Eddy M To: email_address_removed Subject: NDTC - Kirk Message-ID: Is Kirk Hammett a poofter ?? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 06:36:13 -0700 (MST) From: Keith Aspinall To: email_address_removed Subject: another literary reference, and stuff Message-ID: One of my flatmates was reading Catch-22 this past week, and he read me this passage from Chapter 3:Hagenmeyer. 'He decided to live forever or die in the attempt.' I was saving the book for later, so I haven't yet determined if there was any connection at all. So does anyone else know if this follows in the tradition of PMU and LtL? Has anyone else noticed that no matter how mediocre James might be in a particular performance, UaGM is always the same. I have some boots where the stuff around UaGM makes me cringe, but when James gets to this, everything just seems to fall into place, and it's always a strong performance, from the 5 or 6 sources i've heard. keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 07:37:58 CST From: "Louie The Drunken Irishman" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: NDTC - Kirk Message-ID: On 21 Jan 97 at 5:03, Eddy M wrote: Is Kirk Hammett a poofter ?? I thought we were done with this. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:56:15 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Play with me and JP column Message-ID: To the guy who missed 'Play w/ me' on the Extreme CD, it starts w/ a nifty classical intro done by Nuno, so maybe you skipped it because of that. As for the JP column, it said on the Editors page on GW that JP would be back in '97. I imagine that will happen after the new CD comes out... like what happened w/ EJ thankyouverymuch Ernie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:55:45 +0200 From: "Raivo Hool" To: email_address_removed Subject: devin Message-ID: > Theater picked him instead of, oh, say, Devin Townsend. (This guy > really sucks, I picked up Vai's S&R today, bleah!) Incorrect. Try again. :-) R. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 07:56:35 -0600 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: John Petrucci 7-string Message-ID: I received the following from Ibanez. Thought you guys would be interested. >X-From_: email_address_removed Tue Jan 21 07:33:35 1997 >From: email_address_removed >Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:33:19 -0500 (EST) >To: email_address_removed >Subject: Re: John Petrucci 7-string > >Richard, > The JPM100P3 is exactly like the JPM100P2, except the color scheme is >black & white. We currently have no plans for a John Petrucci 7-string >guitar, though. > >Jim McCloskey >Customer Service, Ibanez USA Hope they change their mind on the 7-string!!!!!!! Richard Warren email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 07:04:11 -0800 From: email_address_removed Subject: Band not on Magna Carta Message-ID: Does anyone have that post about the band that was almost signed to Magna Carta and how to contact them? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 23:51:45 +0900 From: email_address_removed.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: RATT unplugged, Portnoy bands Message-ID: Greetings! At 6:08 PM 97.1.20 -0800, Conrad Chi wrote: > Hey there > I am looking for the RATT Unplugged that they did a few years > ago. If you have it on video or audio, I would love to get a > copy or take it off your hands. (or any other RATT videos) > About Ratt unplugged..... I have one track 3-inch single of it. It contains "Born On The Bayou" from MTV unplugged session. This disc was included in Ratt & Roll 8191 (Japanese version original pressing). It's amazing. If you want this recording,let me know. Thanks. -Keiji Nishihara email_address_removed.or.jp email_address_removed.ac.jp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:50:53 -0500 From: "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" To: YtseGods Subject: Studio Questions Message-ID: This are a couple of questions to all of you out there, especially is you are in a band and have worked in music recording studio's before. A few of my friends and I are seriously considering building a music studio in Reading, PA (about an hour west of Philly and hour South of Allentown). I put that info because I know there is at least 2 studios in the Philly area and one in Allentown (Shadow Gallery's studio). The Questions: Are we to close to these other studio's to compete? A ballpark figure on how much $$$$ we might have to consider to spend to do this project. What is the average size in square feet do most studio's run? Average hourly cost that other studios charge to rent it out? (This is obviuously the whole purpose of our venture ---- allow local bands and more use our facility and to make a profit). Well, there are few questions. I' sure I'll have more later as this thing gets more involved. Please email if you might have some good information or other help. Thanks Bruce D. Duesterhoeft ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:15:46 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2210 Message-ID: This is about Jason Becker. Try Tower Records or a used CD store because Becker's stuff does not sell that well.... Try out Jeff Kolman if you like mellow playing, too. Larry Mitchell's first disc is really good for fast and slow licks--good writing, also. Shemp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:27:13 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2210 Message-ID: This is about Jon Finn. Yes, he does have an album out. For some weird reason I cannot remember the title. On the cover is just his face with doodles on it (a moustache/beard/others) By the way, no H in Jon. I know that you can pick up his disc anywhere in Boston or the outlying suburbs, but he may be more difficult to get elsewhere-I have no idea. He is a Boston native, studied at Berklee, and is good friends with Andy Timmons (Danger Danger, and now one of the best guitarists I have ever seen--another "monster") I believe that he played with a bunch of guitarists at Berklee. I have heard that you must catch his live performances on a good day or he screws up his effects and it sounds bad. He teaches at Berklee with Bruce Bartlett and others. Anyway...his album is excellent, well-produced and,if you can find it, it is a great pick-up to add to a collection. None is complete without it. Shemp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 09:49:28 -0600 From: "Robin L. Campbell" To: email_address_removed Subject: Artension, Enchant, Steve Morse Band, TSO Message-ID: Hi all, Kris writes: >Anyone heard the Artension album? > >IT's GREAT > >Kris Kris, I agree with you 100% This is an awesome album! Incredible keys, Shredding guitar work, and great vocals. This is one disc definitely worth checking out in my opinion. about ENCHANT: I downloaded and listened to all 4 of the soundbytes from 'Blueprints of the world' from their web site, and they sound really good. Does anyone know of any more sound clips available for download that I could check out? Also, for whoeve has this album, do those clips accurately represent the rest of the album, cuz if so, I will order the damn thing today! Any info or opinions on this band are much appreciated. about STEVE MORSE BAND: I just bought 'StressFest' last night after hearing some positive comments about him on the jam recently, and I am VERY pleased with this disc. He is an amazing player! Now I will have to search for the rest of his stuff! Thanks to anyone who posted about him. about TSO: I feel sorry for those of you have not been able to locate this disc anywhere, because it is incredible. I was lucky enough to get the last copy at Best Buy a week before Xmas, having heard about it that day on here. It is now one of my favorite albums, even though it ain't Xmas time anymore! What an Exquisite mix of different vocalists, choirs, rocked-up classics, and an emotional storyline weaving it all together. You can definitely see Jon Oliva's style running through this thing after hearing 'streets' and 'dead wubter dead'. Anyone else see the similarity betweentrack #3 on TSO and 'Chance' from HOR? Love that vocal polyphony! thanks for listening, rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:26:40 CST From: "Louie The Drunken Irishman" To: email_address_removed Subject: Boots Message-ID: I'm new to the list and was just wondering; where's the best place to get DT bootlegs. Thank you very much for your help. Pat Worrall @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world because they'd never expect it. |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Pat "Louie" Worrall | | Zeta Omega Omega | | Augustana College | | Rock Island, IL 61201 | | email_address_removed | ````````````````````````````````````````` ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2211 **************************