YTSEJAM Digest 2197 Today's Topics: 1) Apocalypse, CD Europe by Rick Audet 2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2195 by Chris Ptacek 3) Special Offer: CD for $2! by "DREG Records" 4) Ytse Line Up by Chris Ptacek 5) Cover band by "Brian Hayden" 6) by Rick Audet 7) All Dream Theater Band by Dan 8) Dream T Cover band, Steve Morse, etc. by Randall Braun 9) Thanks for Tori by Eric John Marlett 10) S.Morse and Cover band by email_address_removed.mx (Raul Rodriguez) 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2189 by email_address_removed.mx (Raul Rodriguez) 12) Re: Live Maiden by "Dale R. Newberry" 13) animals/EVH/DLR/'Tage/'Tooch <--- progressive subject list by Jon Parmet 14) Tellus -- Tellus -- Tellus by email_address_removed (Dan Temmesfeld) 15) DT cover band... by email_address_removed (Dan Abosso) 16) WTB: Dweezil Zappa "Confessions" by email_address_removed (Dan Temmesfeld) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:44:17 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet To: email_address_removed Subject: Apocalypse, CD Europe Message-ID: Mr. Brian Henderson asked, >Also, I'm pretty sure I've heard good mention of Apocalypse here on the >'Jam. I sent out a money-order to them several weeks ago, but nothing's >arrived yet. I have E-mailed 'em a few times since then, each time met >with no response. Anybody have any idea whether the guy who does it is on >vacation? Do they usually take a long time to deliver an order? Isn't >mail answered on a regular basis?... Ah, Apocalypse. This is something I too have wondered, and I'll explain why. I first ordered from them this past September. I got two DT singles, and before I ordered I sent a few emails with questions about the discs and prices and all that sort of thing. Every email was answered promptly and courteously. I sent a personal check (at the time they weren't equipped to accept credit cards), and within two weeks I got my order. So I was happy and I spread the word that they were cool to deal with. I suspect some other Jammers ordered those singles not long after my praise. Then in November, I was reading alt.music.bootlegs, and someone was bitching about having dealt with Mike (the Apocalypse guy) in a trade, and the guy never held up his end of the deal, and never returned his email. I don't know if the posts about this debacle were bullshit or not, but I've been wondering ever since. I even emailed Mike to let him know he was being slammed on the usenet and that I had faith in his service, in case he wanted to defend himself and the Apocalypse name. He never wrote back saying "thanks for the tip", nor did he ever appear on the usenet. So I don't know what his deal is anymore. I'd give him more time, in case he runs a setup like that of CD Europe, in which they don't carry any stock, and order things from their "suppliers" when an order comes in. This can make the wait for product very long. If after 2 or 3 months you still receive nothing, then I'd start to worry. Maybe in the meantime you could post to alt.music.bootlegs (even though Apocalypse does not sell boots) and ask if anyone has had any trouble with them lately. And as for CD Europe, I slammed them about a month ago, but it was because they refused to cancel my order when I requested it. After corresponding with them about this issue, I found out that their automated email update system mistakenly told me an item I ordered was out of stock (from their supplier), but in actuality it was in the process of being shipped. And since it was in shipment, it was too late to cancel. I simply lost my head a bit prematurely. I can say, though, that they did get me what I ordered, although it took months. They specialize in hard-to-find items, which is what I ordered. The bottom line is that I'd order from them again if I could not find something of interest anyplace else. Sorry if I caused any trouble from my previous bad press. Best wishes, -Rick Audet ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:50:59 -0600 From: Chris Ptacek To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2195 Message-ID: >FUCK OFF ALREADY WITH THE USENET-QUALITY VH "DISCUSSION" In case anyone else didn't hear it, I'll repost that timely advice. I'm IN the agrument and I was man enough (uh oh... should I say "person enough?") to drop it from the jam. Do like I do and you'll be a sexist texus lexus pig. :) >(Chris is half-Hawaiian, half-Bohemian, and half-Venusian, you know) No... I subscribe to the melting pot ideology. I'm an American. Like Hulk Hulgan. >People "like" me? And what exactly "am" I? Are you STEREOTYPING, YOU >FACIST SEXIST SOMNABULIST PIPPENWITHTHEASSIST SHOPPINGLIST PIG?!?!?! I'd argue, but I forgot what somnabulist means. Sounds like it's a fun word to say in a conversation. "Hi mom. What's for dinner?" "SOMNABULIST!" >So... Who's Fernando Sor? Do your homework. He wrote many of the basic etudes you should be practicing to develope your classical technique. >Hey, my company ain't like the other guys. We install it ONCE. And ONLY >ONCE. Plus, unlike Data's emotion-chip, you can't turn it off. Ever. Get it off me!!! KILL THE POWER! I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY LONGER!!!! >Rag? "RAG?" She's making fun of Middle-Easterners! I'll have you know that >my ancestors were from the Caucas Mountains! And that makes me Asian! >CAUC-Asian!! DAAAAAMN YOOOUUUU...uh...TOOOO HEEELLLLLLL!!! Really? I didn't know I was Asian too. Does that mean i can voyage back to my homeland and join a martial arts clan and come back to kick butt on motion picture TV? >That settles it, you're not my >friend anymore, get these Gorilla amps outta my house. NOW. How DARE you assume I own any Gorilla amps! (But those are the ones that tend to be left at peoples' houses after a jam.... go figure... I had about 3 of them left at my house one day). >And who do androgyns make fun of? Huh? WHO??? Oh, I forgot, they aren't >"real" people, are they? So I guess they just don't get to make fun of >ANYONE, do they?? YOUR HEAD ON A SPEAR, PTACEK!! JUSTLIKETHELORDOFTHE >FLLLIIIIIEEEEES!!! Simple. Androgyns make fun of gerbils and Neil Evans. Take Care Ytsebolas! Chris W. Ptacek Musician and Listener A.K.A Madsman, on IRC "Can we search for inspiration -- those ideas that just come from 'nowhere'? They don't surface when you're tHiNKinG. They just come. What we CAN do is make fertile the ground on which idea seeds fall." - Michael Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:28:21 +0000 From: "DREG Records" To: email_address_removed Subject: Special Offer: CD for $2! Message-ID: Time to clear out the shelves and make room for new items... "DREGs of the Internet - Volume 1" Includes a dozen independent bands and over 70 minutes of the internet's best progressive rock and metal. Hear this ground-breaking new music BEFORE these bands make it big! 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Orders must be post-marked by Febuary 7, 1997 to receive this special pricing. * Free bumper stickers and promotional items with every order! * (while supplies last) Shipping: US: $2 for 1 CD, $3 for 2 International: $4 for 1 CD, $5 for 2 Send check, money-order, postal-order, or carefully hidden cash to: DREG Records 1912 Old Stonemill Drive Cranbury, NJ 08512 USA or use our ordering form available at our web site: DREG Records http://www.hutman.com/dreg/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:32:07 -0600 From: Chris Ptacek To: email_address_removed Subject: Ytse Line Up Message-ID: >Chris-- > >You forgot papally infallible. roflmao... Hehehehe No doubt. :) Can I call myself the YtsePope? Anyway, here's my DT cover lineup. No electric instruments will be allowed in any shape or form. In fact, the room will not fit more than 40 people and there won't even be mixers or microphones. All light will come from a fireplace and candles. :) Guitars: Al DiMeola, John McLaughlin and Michael Hedges. This mix would allow for the frightening dynamics needed to play together without mics. Hedges would do some amazing things to the arrangements, McLaughlin would use his unnatural technique to cover the spots (Tapping, legato, etc) that Al wouldn't do, but using a pick, because he can pull it off, I bet. Al would be the rhythmic musical god that he is, and take care of all the extra Shred. Bass: I think because he might get really irritated by me throwing him into this position, we'll make Sean Malone play stand up. I bet he'd do a fantastic job. Drums: Tito Fuente and Terry Bozzio... BUT, they have to play percussion kits... no full drum kits... these guys have to play standing up at my show. :) Vocals: Tori Amos and Sting. Keys: There would be no need... but perhaps we'd let the Kronos Quartet come in to play strings. :) Too bad there are no outlets in this place... there probably won't be a bootleg available ever! Buy your tickets now. :) Chris W. Ptacek Musician and Listener A.K.A Madsman, on IRC "Can we search for inspiration -- those ideas that just come from 'nowhere'? They don't surface when you're tHiNKinG. They just come. What we CAN do is make fertile the ground on which idea seeds fall." - Michael Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 11:57:45 -0600 From: "Brian Hayden" To: email_address_removed Subject: Cover band Message-ID: Here goes.... Rhythm guitar - Martin Barre (Jethro Tull) Lead guitar - Marty Friedman Acoustic guitar - Al Stewart Drums - Bill Ward (Sabbath) Bass - Steve Harris Keyboard - Stevie Wonder Vocals - Bono hmmmm....... -Brian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "There must be a third and last dance, this one will last forever... The third is love, love is the dance of eternity." - Dream Theater ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:19:39 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet To: email_address_removed Message-ID: Partha wrote, >But anyway......here's my semi-useful question: Is the iron maiden "Live >After Death" album taken from the same source as the video? Becuz I was >totally digging the video (Killer version of Powerslave) and I'd sorta >shied away from live IM after buying and not really liking A Real Live One I believe so. That show was recorded from 4 nights at the Long Beach Arena, California. The LP, however is longer because side 4 is extra stuff recorded over 4 nights at the Hammersmith Odeon, England. Mention of that album puts me in nostalgia mode, because that's what got me into IM, and I bought the LP when it was first released. Further, that's the record that I attempted to emulate when I first picked up the guitar. I really got my money's worth out of that Gorilla amp and Rat distortion pedal. Even my guitar looks like one of Dave Murray's from that tour...black strat, white pickguard, Floyd Rose trem, etc. That album inspired me to keep playing. I have since discontinued practice. Sigh. +++++++++++++++++ Satu wrote, >Since we've had the discussion here about bands with the x >in it, here's something else to think about: >SCHIZOPHRENIA-MANIA !! And everybody's favorite... "Schizophrenia" by Mr. Petrucci, from the Guitar Player Spotlight flexi-disk, also seen on InstruMental I, and a bonus track on Uncovered. Have a day, -Rick Audet "I hope to impress upon you that what we're reviewing is fundamentally and critically important, and utterly useless." -Dr. Fred Taylor, EEL 6702, Digital Filtering University of Florida ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:30:51 -0500 (EST) From: Dan To: email_address_removed Subject: All Dream Theater Band Message-ID: Vocals: Sebastian Bach Guitars: Thomas McRocklin Bass: Billy Sheehan Drums: Bobby Blotzer Keyboards: Jens Johannson OR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Vocals: Tony Harnell Guitars: George Lynch Bass: Stu Hamm Drum: Scott Rockenfield Keyboards: Kev Moore ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:02:26 -0600 From: Randall Braun To: "'Ytsejam'" Subject: Dream T Cover band, Steve Morse, etc. Message-ID: On Steve Morse & *High Tension Wires*-although SM calls it his *first actual solo album*, most of the other musicians are Dregs/ex-Dregs anyway. It's a great CD. I've had it since it first came out in 1989. I'm listening to it as I key in my JAM. On the Dream T Cover band-although I'm still contemplating my choices, I've noticed that NOONE (that I can recall) has put down EVH for guitar. Do I notice a trend....? As a fellow Y'Jammer noted: I hope EVH doesn't abuse/ruin Gary Cherone!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 ....."Dweezil Zappa's Confession": This CD is produced by Nuno Bettencourt and it's full of great guitar and vocal harmony. There is many singer on this album (Nuno, Dweezil, Ahmet Zappa, Moon Zappa, Donny Osmond). Overall, it's a great CD. Also has guests Gary Cherone & Pat Badger (ex-Treme) on back vox and Zakk Wylde (ex-OZ) on the axe. Donny Osmond covers a Bee Gee's tune. One tune *written* while underwater in a swimming pool in Fresno, CA (I be Fresno)!! Interested parties may also note this album came out about the same time as ex-Treme's *Porno...* came out, on which DZ did a guest appearance. Reciprocation? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:16:17 -0500 (EST) From: Eric John Marlett To: email_address_removed Subject: Thanks for Tori Message-ID: Just wanted to throw out a thank you to everyone who has praised Tori. I finally, after listening to your recommendations for a couple years, picked up Little Earthquakes yesterday. LOVE IT. Something I should have done a long time ago..... Eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:25:47 -0600 From: email_address_removed.mx (Raul Rodriguez) To: email_address_removed Subject: S.Morse and Cover band Message-ID: hi: First off all 1996 was a great year for Steve Morse, he rule in deep Purple "Purpendicular", and he also made "STRESS FEST", IMHO his best CD. You can get the SF transcription the July(1996) issue of Guitar Mag. if you want to impress someone playing the guitar, this is the song you need to play=A1=A1= =A1 The band: Guitar: Steve Vai ....We need a seven string god. Keys: John Paul Jones(led Zep).....Great musician, he has no job=A1 Bass: Mike Inez...ex Ozzy Bassist (No more tears) Drums: Scott Rockenfield, or N. Peart Vocals: Sammy Hagar.....some day he will stand on the top of the world. see you Omar Rodriguez ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:25:45 -0600 From: email_address_removed.mx (Raul Rodriguez) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2189 Message-ID: > Al Di Meola (hehe,does he play electric?, the only thing i have from >him is Guitar Trio) Guitars OH YEAH. He plays anything with strings, very fast=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1 See you=20 Omar Rodriguez ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:33:28 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Live Maiden Message-ID: Maiden's Live After Death album is taken from the same basic source on a different night at the same place as the video (most overtly noticeable thing is that Dickinson says some different stuff before "Rime..." :). Also, A Real Live One (or "...Dead One") are NOT good representations of Maden live (sound quality is not the best). As far as some "different" musicians to cover DT, let's see drums (sorta) - Future Man from The FLecktones bass/vox - Les Claypool keys/vox - Tori Amos guitars - The Edge/Prince That's all I can think of off the top of my head :). later. Dale R. Newberry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:37:14 +0000 From: Jon Parmet To: YtsAJoke Subject: animals/EVH/DLR/'Tage/'Tooch <--- progressive subject list Message-ID: > a whole different animal (I hope I didn't offend any animals > on the list.) Well, speaking as a lower-order, non-human primate, I'd just like to say that I'm offensive, uh, er, offensed :) ///////////////////////// > EEEEEKKK, wonder how long it will be before EVH tires of Mr. Cherone > and boots him? I though EVH didn't approve of boots. Wait, oops, that's another guitarist. :) ///////////////////////// >>bask in some glory. Can anyone blame him? (DLR) > For being an egotistical idiot who needs public adulation to affirm > his ego? > yup! Thankfully, life goes on without him! The sooner Gary starts performing, the better. ///////////////////////// I finally got over to http://www.winternet.com/~savaweb/savatage.html and sucked down the audio samples. So far, Edge of Thorns and Shotgun Innocence get thumbs up. I could swear I've heard this somewhere, especially the chorus to Shotgun. Have they done anything for movies? > From: Tilman Kuendgen > why I consider John Petrucci as a very good guitarist: He has the > technical knowledge, can play very fast AND he has the feeling for > melodies, tempi, chords etc. AND he has new, surprising ideas. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You hit the nail on the head, for me! That's what keeps me listening. It's not about just taking something from 20 years ago and repackaging it. I see too much of the new stuff (grunge,alt,etc.) that way. Yeah, it's got a little different sound hook to it, but once you carve away the top layer, there's just not much there. Regards, Jon *------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | email_address_removed | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:49:04 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Dan Temmesfeld) To: email_address_removed Subject: Tellus -- Tellus -- Tellus Message-ID: Hey all, if you like good music with good lyrics, check out Tellus!!! Good music recommendation, seeing as we're going to be waiting a while for some new Dream Theater...sigh... Tellus: They're not mainstream, they're not alternative, they're not metal, they're not strictly progressive...but they meld many different styles together. It's been getting great rotation in my car discman lately. They're a Texas 3-piece band (with female vocals) with one album "Stand By" produced by Alan Doss (of the Galactic Cowboys). FYI. http://www.onramp.net/tellus/ http://www.onramp.net/tellus/ http://www.onramp.net/tellus/ No, I do not get paid for saying this. I just happen to have stumbled across a CD of their for a great price (from their page), and I now love it dearly!!! Maybe you can find something in their style that you like as well... http://www.onramp.net/tellus/ Later all, Dan ---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - email_address_removed / email_address_removed "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Page" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm ---+ +--- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:50:05 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Dan Abosso) To: email_address_removed Subject: DT cover band... Message-ID: My ideal DT cover band would be... vocals: Charlie Dominici guitar: Slash keyboard: Elton John bass: Roger Waters -- Friendly fire in hostile waters... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:51:40 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Dan Temmesfeld) To: email_address_removed Subject: WTB: Dweezil Zappa "Confessions" Message-ID: I heard about Dweezil Zappa's "Confessions" a long time ago on the Extreme ML. I got some of the songs on a dub tape (*thanks, Clive)... But, does anybody out there know where I can get a copy? I really want a CD copy of this stuff. If you see it (used, new, etc) let me know. I'm definitely willing to pay for shipping and whatever. Thanks, Dan ---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - email_address_removed / email_address_removed "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Page" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm ---+ +--- ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2197 **************************