YTSEJAM Digest 2188 Today's Topics: 1) by "Julien" 2) Re: Tapestry/Darkest of Winters by durnik 3) Public Funkenness by Adam Barnhart 4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2187 by email_address_removed (Barb Battaglia) 5) Rules for women by "Sheri Williams" 6) Re: boots and gloves and more boots, size fiXXtra large by email_address_removed 7) Van Halen Rumors by Steve Borzilleri 8) CDs for auction & sale: ACOUSTIC DREAMS SUBCON etc. by durnik 9) Sorry ladies! 50 Facts About Men (NDTC) by "Vincent G. LuPone" 10) rules for women thing by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" 11) Kurt Cobain, DT boots, Jam Sucks? by Jeremy Kube 12) Re: Cobain, Steve Morse by Jon Parmet ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 21:24:31 +0100 From: "Julien" To: Message-ID: Please, help me. How can I subscribe me to this mailing-list. Thanks. Julien CONSTANTIN 14 years old email_address_removed Montpellier, FRANCE ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:30:32 -0700 (MST) From: durnik To: email_address_removed (Kevin Villines) Cc: email_address_removed, email_address_removed Subject: Re: Tapestry/Darkest of Winters Message-ID: Hi Kevin! This part of your mail, I'm CCing to the Jam, because now that I have a chance to explain it, I figure there are others who are curious as well. Might as well keep people informed, I figure. To everyone else: Kevin asked me about the part in the update where I refer to something BIG in the works that would allow me to either produce way more CDs per year (excepting the fact that I promised DT I'd lay off for a while) or not be able to do much at all. > P.S.-What exactly do you mean by something BIG that might affect your > ability to produce CDs? I fully understand if you aren't at liberty to > say, but it would be a dissapointment if you were limited to two CDs a > year. Dammit Mike, you've spoiled me! Good luck on this endeavor, as I Well, I didn't explain this in the update only because it's kind of a long-winded, detailed scenario, but the crux of it is that I'm trying to raise dough in my other business and this one to purchase the CopyCat, a rather large, expensive machine that lets me crank out something to the tune of 100 CDs in a day! Of course, the day before and after is setup and prep, so it'd amount to around 150 discs per work week, average projected production over a period of time. This machine would allow me to counter the large amount of time I am having to spend on both businesses to keep them cranking along, and if I cannot get it, I have to cut back and conserve expenses, meanwhile if I _can_ get it, I can just whip out CDs left and right. CD production is half manufacturing and half shipping, so I'd be able to produce around 6 or 7 discs a year instead of my current 3 or 4, and cut that down a little for time constraints... I'd say it will make the difference between 2 releases per year and 5 per year. Now, I'd just take a loan and buy the thing, except that I can't, because I'm $30,000 in debt already. I own two vehicles, only one of which is paid for (my Chevy truck), the other I still owe $10 grand on (my Saturn). The remaining debt is from a debt consolidation loan I took out in order to pay off and close my six maxed-out credit cards. Hey, who ever said we make smart decisions straight out of college!! :) My sole redeeming financial footprint is that I scrimped and saved enough off CD production that by the time I had done six or seven projects, I was able to pay off my student loan and truck loan. I don't worry much about money, though, because I _know_ I'm gonna succeed, it's just a matter of when, how, and in what way. So that leaves the Mikester with two main focal points for 1997. As you all know, I'm going to persist and finish all current CD projects. This means selling out of the remainin stock of WDATU, Scenes from a Memory (this will be easy since I'm almost out), Critical Mass (see the note from Scenes), and then finishing production and shipping on Precious Things and Darkest of Winters. I want to also let y'all know I'm done printing Metallica discs, and shipping is underway. Then, I'll probably wrap up the spring with Rush: Virtual Songs. That's one focal point: Prism Records and its associated efforts and endeavors. The second focal point is building my independent Equinox distributorship. Now, a lot of you might wonder why I bothered to get into that, because it's time-consuming and I was doing fine with CDs anyway. Two reasons. Firstly, I promised DT that I would slow down and lay off doing CDs of them for a while. I mean, six boots in two years? I think I may have taken unfair advantage of their lenience, and even though they're too nice to say it to me, it's time I took a break. I'll probably produce one DT disc a year (not counting current efforts) if things look favourable to continue. At the request of several of you, I want one or more of these to be complete shows featuring the band in top form. Secondly, I did it for my health. Literally. I was going to DIE eventually the way I was living ("Yes, I'll have that deep-fried bacon and cheese jalapeno puff!") and was overweight and having real health concerns. With the awesome health products from Equinox, I've turned that all around, and hopefully I can turn it around for some of you as well. I lose weight so fast these days that I have to buy new pants every month... but that's a POSITIVE problem! :) I quit smoking, for GOOD, thanks to their No Smoking Nutrition. I cleaned out my system and started eating healthy and maximizing the nutrition of what I _could_ eat. Finally, I took every poisonous chemical in my home, from cleaners to shampoo, and replaced it all with healthy, all-natural stuff from Equinox that makes 100% of the difference. After all, our bodies are only as healthy as what we put into them. I even use Equinox's water purification system in my sink and shower, and it's second-to-none. So what can you as a Jammer do, to ensure that I'll be able to continue to crank out releases for all of your enjoyment? Remember that with the copycat, I can easily cut $5 off the price of each CD, and not affect production at ALL. THAT is how tremendous a difference this machine could make. To succeed in that endeavor, I need to succeed in my two businesses. And I think that each of you can help yourselves by helping me. Firstly, let's talk CDs. I know alot of you have friends. You just do. Even the most anti-social of us has anti-social friends. :) I _do_ give bulk discounts on multiple purcahses of the same title, for as few as 5 discs, so that you can profit while getting this rare and wonderful musical material into the hands of other hardcore fans. Remember, the more people you meet who have Images and Awake who want "to find something more" that you help, the more people will pack the clubs on DT's next world tour, and the higher sales will be for the new record. Everyone wins. (I love it when that happens.) Secondly, help YOURSELF. Because you're out of state and I don't have to charge sales tax, I'm able to slice a little off the price of the health and environment products I distribute. For example, No Smoking Nutrition costs $36 per bottle (one is all you'll ever need... by the time you finish it, you will have quit for good if you took it properly), but I've been distributing it to Jammers at $33. (local 8.0% sales tax taken out). Do you lack energy? Sleep poorly? Stress out? Work out and need a better boost than GNC stuff can give you? Smoke? Get sick a lot? Have asthma? We don't make medical claims, but this stuff is documented to work well consistently or I wouldn't bother distributing it. What do you clean your home with? What do you clean your body with? Is it something you want your kids to get into when you're not looking? If your kid drank our degreaser, he would NOT get sick or die. It wouldn't taste too hot, though. Basically, let me know what sort of problems I can attempt to solve for you, and we both win in the bargain. Well, I've gone on long enough. I hope you are all thoroughly sick of hearing me blather about what I do these days. (wink) Have a good one, folks. - Mike Bahr/email_address_removed- An independent Equinox representative ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 12:41:18 -0800 From: Adam Barnhart To: email_address_removed Subject: Public Funkenness Message-ID: >From: The Digital Man > >"Kings of Sleep" is the only Hamm CD I have :( (well, except for Vai's >P&W, but that doesn't really count). This disc gets regular rotation in >my CD player. Some of the songs are a bit lame songwriting-wise, but the >bass playing throughout is top-notch. And every time I listen to him >play Bach's "Prelude in C", I'm tempted to just give up playing bass >altogether. If you're a fan of any of Stu's work (and Working Man is not >a fair representation - he's much better than that), pick up anything you >can find by him. He has three or four solo CD's out, all on Relativity >from what I understand (back when they were good). I actually think that "Kings Of Sleep" is his best album, compositionally. Of course, I think the compositions are GOOD. "Radio Free Albemuth" is probably his best work, "The Urge" his most accessible. Stu plays some frightening stuff on all three -- a Stu primer: "Quahogs Anyone?," "Terminal Beach," "Moonlight Sonata," "Surely The Best," "Flow My Tears," "Count Zero." I LIKE Stu's playing on "Working Man," too....I like, especially, where he is rhythmically on "YYZ." >From: "Vincent G. LuPone" > > Yeah, or the dudes from Type-O, (newer) Anthrax, Pantera, Fear >Factory, etc. Even Mustaine from Megadeth with that higher voice can grind >it out every now and then. That gutteral growl is awesome. > >RRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! What about Glenn Danzig? That Jim Morrison-cum-thrashhead approach is awesome. Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Rush: Rush 2. Marillion: Made Again (Disc 1) 3. Marillion: Made Again (Disc 2) 4. Alexis Korner: Get Off My Cloud 5. Nirvana: From The Muddy Banks of the Wishkah Adam D. Barnhart email_address_removed email_address_removed http://www.cfmc.com/adamb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:51:51 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Barb Battaglia) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2187 Message-ID: >Thought you all could use a little humor! > >>>25 rules for Women: Hello everyone, it's BABS. Here's the #1 rule that I follow: 1. Men are nothing, but trouble and heartache - thank God they come equipped with a wallet. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jan 1997 13:59:04 -0700 From: "Sheri Williams" To: "dream theater" Subject: Rules for women Message-ID: Please tell me you were joking with that load of shit you put on the jam about these pathetic rules for women. I guess you think women don't read the jam. I've got news for you, prog rock is not only for men who think they know every little detail about what's going on music today. Not all women think night life involves a trip to the mall shopping for that perfect outfit for the man of their dreams. I'm sure you were just joking just to provoke someone like me who would get pissed off at your little "list". I don't see women using the jam to rag on men- I thought at least relative topics were discussed on the jam. Just so you know their are women out there who know their shit about music(yes, I am one of them), love sports, drink beer, and just love to hang out and have a good time. I won't waste anymore space. Again if this was some kind of joke, maybe you should think twice before you critize people you probably rarely associate yourself with!!!! -sheri ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 16:00:52 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: boots and gloves and more boots, size fiXXtra large Message-ID: In a message dated 1/15/97 3:00:59 PM, you wrote: <> not to be the bad guy, im a drummer myself, and MP did mess up at least once on a boot i have, from dec 29m 1995 the birch hill show, he messed up in the intro to ACOS, i dont remember if he dropped a stick or not but he missed a snare hit in what i feel was a critical part of the song, i didnt catch it at the show but caught it on a boot. ohh yeah, on the more syrupy side of the pancake, anyone here with fixx for 96 tapes from any of the shows PLEASE email me, id like to set up something Laterz, Stan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:03:34 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: Van Halen Rumors Message-ID: > From: Ryan Webb > Subject: Michael Anthony/VH > > December 29, 1996 > Rumors of Michael Anthony being out of Van Halen NOT true! > > Michael Anthony's brother Dennis, just called us about the rumors > concerning Mike leaving the band and they are without a shadow of a > doubt, 100% UNTRUE. > > Dennis laughed off the rumor and found it very amusing how widespread > it had become. Almost as amusing as that "David Lee Roth Is Back In Our Band" rumor, huh? Hahahaha that sure was a good one. What crap, I can't believe everyone fell for that, I mean the information only came out of Eddie Van Halen's MOUTH. Pardon my hasty conclusion, but any band who pulls a stunt like that one will have the word "rumor" jeering at them all the way to Hell. What I learned from Van Halen over the past year is that there are no rumors as far as their lineup is concerned. Everything one hears might be true, and don't be surprised if the unthinkable happens. If someone mentions that Billy Sheehan is replacing Michael Anthony, is that any more unbelievable than, say, Gary Cherone becoming their lead vocalist? Bafu Vai ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:09:06 -0700 (MST) From: durnik To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: CDs for auction & sale: ACOUSTIC DREAMS SUBCON etc. Message-ID: Well, the final buyer backed out of the deal, so these two go back up for grabs. The previous highest bids were both held by Keith Williams of Tucson, AZ. at: Subconscious #009 - $95 Acoustic Dreams #396 - $90 If you'd like to top that bid, let me know, on either one. Otherwise, Keith is a happy man. I notice these things ain't exactly plentiful these days. It makes me wonder how many are actually circulating as opposed to being in the hands of their owners for good. I also have four items to ADD to the sale, courtesy of another friend of mine who bought extra when they came out. These are flat-rate prices, no need to auction, so first come first served. The dude even bought MY #004, figuring it'd be worth something someday. Even though these are flat-rate, if I hear a really awesome offer on them, I'll likely seal the deal with the person making the offer. Antiquities #004 - $60 Antiquities #493 - $50 Cygnus (opened) - $50 Cygnus (sealed) - $60 Inside The Storm #002- $70 Inside The Storm prot- $70 And those of you waiting for me to sell my #000 or #001 of each disc can just forget it, because it ain't gonna happen! :) Besides, I give those away as gifts and just keep a prototype for myself. :) Take care everyone... and just remember... the Super Bowl would have been about 100 times better as Carolina vs. Jacksonville, just on principle alone, but at least the COWBOYS aren't in it!! - Mike Bahr/email_address_removed- An independent Equinox representative ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:11:47 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" To: email_address_removed Subject: Sorry ladies! 50 Facts About Men (NDTC) Message-ID: Hi all, I got some nasty e-mails from women who didn't think my "25 rules for Women" thing was that funny. I meant it in good fun, I want you all to know, and we hadn't had much humor on the jam for a while and I just felt like posting it. To show that I'm totally unbiased on this, here's one for you ladies. Enjoy! Peace be with you and God bless, ~Vince >> >>Rita Rudner's 50 facts about men. >> >> 1. Men like to barbecue. Men will cook if danger is involved. >> 2. Men who have pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. >> They've experienced pain and bought jewelry. >> 3. If you buy your husband or boyfriend a video camera, for the first >> few weeks he has it, lock the door when you go to the bathroom. Most >> of my husband's early films end with a scream and a flush. >> 4. Be careful of men who are bald and rich; the arrogance of "rich" >> usually cancels out the nice of "bald." >> 5. Marrying a divorced man is ecologically responsible. In a world >> where there are more women than men, it pays to recycle. >> 6. Men are very confident people. My husband is so confident that when >> he watches sports on television, he thinks that if he concentrates he >> can help his team. If the team is in trouble, he coaches the players >> from our living room, and if they're really in trouble, I have to get >> off the phone in case they call him. >> 7. If it's attention you want, don't get involved with a man during >> play-off season. >> 8. Men like phones with lots of buttons. It makes them feel important. >> 9. Men love to be the first to read the newspaper in the morning. Not >> being the first is upsetting to their psyches. >>10. All men look nerdy in black socks and sandals. >>11. The way a man looks at himself in a mirror will tell you if he can >> ever care about anyone else. >>12. Don't try to teach men how to do anything in public. They can learn >> in private; in public they have to know. >>13. Men who are going bald often wear baseball caps. >>14. All men are afraid of eyelash curlers. I sleep with one under my >> pillow, instead of a gun. >>15. A good place to meet a man is at the dry cleaner. These men usually >> have jobs and bathe. >>16. Men love watches with multiple functions. My husband has one that is >> a combination address book, telescope and piano. >>17. All men hate to hear "We need to talk about our relationship." These >> seven words strike fear in the heart of even General Schwarzkopf. >>18. Men are sensitive in strange ways. If a man has built a fire and the >> last log does not burn, he will take it personally. >>19. Men are brave enough to go to war, but they are not brave enough to >> get a bikini wax. >>20. All men think that they're nice guys. Some of them are not. Contact >> me for a list of names. >>21. Men don't get cellulite. God might just be a man. >>22. Men have an easier time buying bathing suits. Women have two types: >> depressing and more depressing. Men have two types: nerdy and not >> nerdy. >>23. Men have higher body temperatures than women. If your heating goes out >> in winter, I recommend sleeping next to a man. Men are like portable >> heaters that snore. >>24. Women take clothing much more seriously than men. I've never seen a >> man walk into a party and say "Oh, my God, I'm so embarrassed; get me >> out of here. There's another man wearing a black tuxedo." >>25. Most men hate to shop. That's why the men's department is usually on >> the first floor of a department store, two inches from the door. >>26. If a man prepares dinner for you and the salad contains three or more >> types of lettuce, he is serious. >>27. If you're dating a man who you think might be "Mr. Right," if he a) >> got older, b) got a new job, or c) visited a psychiatrist, you are in >> for a nasty surprise. The cocoon-to-butterfly theory only works on >> cocoons and butterflies. >>28. Men own basketball teams. Every year cheerleaders' outfits get >> tighter and briefer, and players' shorts get baggier and longer. >>29. No man is charming all of the time. Even Cary Grant is on record >> saying he wished he could be Cary Grant. >>30. When four or more men get together, they talk about sports. >>31. When four or more women get together, they talk about men. >>32. Not one man in a beer commercial has a beer belly. >>33. Men are less sentimental than women. No man has ever seen the movie >> THE WAY WE WERE twice, voluntarily. >>34. Most women are introspective: "Am I in love? Am I emotionally and >> creatively fulfilled?" Most men are outrospective: "Did my team win? >> How's my car?" >>35. If a man says, "I'll call you," and he doesn't, he didn't forget... >> he didn't lose your number... he didn't die. He just didn't want to >> call you. >>36. Men hate to lose. I once beat my husband at tennis. I asked him, >> "Are we going to have sex again?" He said, "Yes, but not with each >> other." >>37. Men who can eat anything they want and not gain weight should do it >> out of sight of women. >>38. Getting rid of a man without hurting his masculinity is a problem. >> "Get out" and "I never want to see you again" might sound like a >> challenge. If you want to get rid of a man, I suggest saying, "I love >> you... I want to marry you... I want to have your children." Sometimes >> they leave skid marks. >>39. Men accept compliments much better than women do. Example: "Mitch, >> you look great." Mitch:"Thanks." On the other side:"Ruth, you look >> great." Ruth: "I do? Must be the lighting." >>40. Impulse buying is not macho. Men rarely call the Home Shopping >> Network. >>41. Men who listen to classical music tend not to spit. >>42. Only men who have worn a ski suit understand how complicated it is for >> a woman to go to the bathroom when she's wearing a jumpsuit. >>43. Men don't feel the urge to get married as quickly as women do because >> their clothes all button and zip in the front. Women's dresses >> usually button and zip in the back. We need men emotionally and sexually, >> but we also need men to help us get dressed. >>44. Men are self-confident because they grow up identifying with >> superheros. Women have bad self-images because they grow up identifying >> with Barbie. >>45. When a woman tries on clothing from her closet that feels tight, she >> will assume she has gained weight. When a man tries something from >> his closet that feels tight, he will assume the clothing has shrunk. >>46. Male menopause is a lot more fun than female menopause. With female >> menopause you gain weight and get hot flashes. Male menopause - you >> get to date young girls and drive motorcycles. >>47. Men forget everything; women remember everything. >>48. That's why men need instant replays in sports. They've already >> forgotten what happened. >>49. Men would like monogamy better if it sounded less like monotony. >>50. All men would still really like to own a train set. >> >> > > > ************************************************************************* "All the world's a stage, and most of us are desperately unrehearsed." -- Sean O'Casey ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:11:06 -0600 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds Subject: rules for women thing Message-ID: i wasnt the one who posted this, but man, that one got some really blown responses :) anyways, to women who would take offense to it- really, you shouldnt, if you look at it, pretty much everything was directed at men's habits and beings in reflection also, so its satirical to both genders. i also dont think it was posted with malice, so try not to let it get you to hard. d:-> ~Rip ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 16:21:02 -0500 (EST) From: Jeremy Kube To: email_address_removed Subject: Kurt Cobain, DT boots, Jam Sucks? Message-ID: Alright..I have to get a few things off my back! First things first.. Kurt Cobain, as much as people feel differently, he had an effect on our society and kind of headlined that "Grunge" thing that most of us would rather forget we ever listen to or were associated with. Kurt Cobain had an emotional hold on our society. Every kid had heard of them, most people even listened to him (eek!) and even some people liked him (aaaahhhh!) but regardless I know that I had "Nevermind" their first big release. I also know that when I was moving along with drums that it was the only stuff that I could play, this is the same for all of my buddies and myself. We listened to Nirvana, learned the chords or beats (which wasn't all that tough) and played along with it. In summary, I would like to say that Kurt sucked at guitar BUT, he influenced our society in the fact that he was simple...catchy and had a grasp on all the kids. They (the media) where right when they stated that the first person of importance had died in Generation X (I hate that definition but oh well) Next, DT fix for 96 boots? If you have em let me know I am still looking for someone to correspond with. I don't have much to send in return but I think I can come up with some stuff off a friend. email_address_removed The Jam Sucks? How could anyone say that. I have heard more about DT in this newsletter than anywhere else. I have to agree it's in a lower form than it usually is (I think that's because there isn't much to talk about DT lately, you know because there has been a long while since DT has put anything out.) If you have a problem with the jam, write something interesting. Put it out there where I can see it and I will write something about it. Even better, write about something controversial, then you will get a rousing response like people have responded to Kurt Cobain etc.... Later, J ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 21:46:47 +0000 From: Jon Parmet To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Cobain, Steve Morse Message-ID: > From: Steve Borzilleri > Did Malmsteen call him one day and begin playing 32nd notes over the phone? When 16ths would have more than done the job :) > Even more bizarro was when I was listening to a tape of Steve Morse's > "Picture This," which happens to be the only piece of music I own by that > icon and what is arguably one of the most beautiful pieces of music around. I'll have to grab that one. I first saw Steve with the Dixie Dregs in the early 80's at a little place in R.I. (wait, was that redundant? :) called Lupo's Heartbreak Hotel and he/they blew my socks off! Some wierd kind of bass called a SteinBrenner :) was about a foot from me and the bassist was all over it!! I suggest picking up "Stand Up" if you can find it. I scooped the vinyl in a used bin for something like a dollar or two many moon ago. The wonderfull thing about popularity and talent being uncorrelated is the correlation to economics :) There's some excellent stuff on there which span so many genres, from jazz to country to rock to classical. Rockin' Guitars, for example, should get the head to snap up and take notice, even if you're not a big country music fan :) What he does with it is simply wonderful. There's another tune on there whose name escapes me right now, but starts out with what I'd call a progressive classical (Bach-like) sound. By the middle of the song there's a keyboard/bass fusion thing happening that has so much emotion, it makes my hair stand on end! Regards, Jon *------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | email_address_removed | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------* ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2188 **************************