YTSEJAM Digest 2115 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Sherinian, Portnoy by "Damon M. Fibraio" 2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2112 by "Damon M. Fibraio" 3) Re: earpluggs on Ivanhoe..? by "Damon M. Fibraio" 4) Re: Jap PPV vid, potty mouth DT?, and Damon by Ytse-Kurt 5) Liner notes and I&W by "LRW" 6) what's on the Xmas CD... by email_address_removed (Dan Temmesfeld) 7) RARE DT VINYL FOR SALE!!! by NuGgeTMaN 8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2113 by "Damon M. Fibraio" 9) Re: Jap PPV vid, potty mouth DT?, and Damon by "Damon M. Fibraio" 10) backup vox by Pat Sullivan 11) AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH! by email_address_removed.br 12) Re: Sherinian, Portnoy by "KorgX3" 13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2114 by email_address_removed (George Sumschidt) 14) TSO Sound Samples by Sava Web 15) Pothead at the Birch Hill show by "Fission Chicken" 16) re: keys and penises by William T Bajzek 17) WOOHOO! by Brian 18) Re: TSO, is there really a TSO??? by email_address_removed 19) In Regards to the Keys vs. Guitars Argument by Ben Laussade 20) help. by email_address_removed 21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2114 by William T Bajzek 22) Birch Hill and Bootleg by email_address_removed 23) stan by email_address_removed 24) BH boot by email_address_removed 25) Providence...a good one. by Jeremy Kube ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Dec 96 18:59:59 EST From: "Damon M. Fibraio" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Sherinian, Portnoy Message-ID: Didn't somebody post here not too long ago that Mapex is made by Tama or vice versa. I think he's back with Tama again, but what do I know? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 96 19:01:59 EST From: "Damon M. Fibraio" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2112 Message-ID: they played it on the P.A. DT did not cover Rush at all, they just played Chronicles at the end of disk 2 or something. But at the end of the encore, DT kicked into Damage INC. and was there another Metalica song in there, too? pretty cool. MP must've started that. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 96 19:04:09 EST From: "Damon M. Fibraio" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: earpluggs on Ivanhoe..? Message-ID: OK. I bought those ear filters for about 20 bucks in a music store, and normally they work wonderfully, but they have this hatred for DT concerts. I was not even close to the stage at all, and my left ear rings like the Liberty Bell. I had the plugs in. Maybe I should get better plugs? What do you guys think. They're not the squishy hunting/shooting foam plugs, they are meant to filter out loud noises, I bought them in a music store. They should be good and they usually are, except at DT concerts. Hey, guys, turn the music down just a little, please next year. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:57:37 -0500 From: Ytse-Kurt To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Jap PPV vid, potty mouth DT?, and Damon Message-ID: LRW wrote: > > hey everyone. Excuse my ignorance, but does anybody know which tragedy it > was that called for the 15 seconds of silence? That vid rocks. > It was because of the Kobe earthquake..which had happened like days before i think..and it killed a lot of people.. > -- Look around...hear the sounds... Cherish your life,while you're still around... WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 17:00:27 -0700 From: "LRW" To: Subject: Liner notes and I&W Message-ID: Can any of you helpful jammers tell me where I might find the liner notes to Antiquities and/or Dream Out Loud? Also a setlist or info on the Japan ppv vid? Fernando just traded me these and I would like to have any and all info about them that I can. I also forgot in my post about the Christmas CD to mention that the latest issue of I&W is extremely well done and very informative. I felt that necessary since no one has mentioned it yet due to the excitement about the awesome DT CD. Keep 'em coming!!! woot ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:09:04 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Dan Temmesfeld) To: email_address_removed Subject: what's on the Xmas CD... Message-ID: -an opening message from the guys (minus James) -Red Hill Mining Town (orig. U2) -Tears (Rush) -Damage Inc (Metallica) -Oh Holy Night (with James on vocals) ***awesome!! great sound quality from soundcheck*** -closing message from the guys Dan ---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - email_address_removed / email_address_removed "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Page" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm ---+ +--- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:12:21 -0500 (EST) From: NuGgeTMaN To: email_address_removed Subject: RARE DT VINYL FOR SALE!!! Message-ID: Here's the scoop...I'm Way hard up for cash right now and could use some extra $$$ So...I have the following for sale!!! 1 Actual Vinyl record of the old show METAL SHOP featuring DREAM THEATER "Pull Me Under" as one of the weeks most valuable Metal!!! If I recall correctly it was #3 most valuable...The show is no longer in existance, and the actual records used for airplay are damn near exstinct! So BEST OFFER GETS THIS ONE!!! Comes with NO scratches, actual time sheet/playlist of the show, and all the good stuff like that (including a few army commercials). ONLY 1 available so start sending in those bids!!! 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In my desire to meet the band and throw my radio credentials around, which nobody at the club cared about anyway, I missed meeting ytsejammers and having fun, again. The first year, last year, I could blame my friend for making me miss the get together last year, but this year. Oh well, I could blame Derek, but that's not cool, since he did give me an interview. Oh well. Maybe next year, or will you guys find some way to avoid me again? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 96 19:22:25 EST From: "Damon M. Fibraio" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Jap PPV vid, potty mouth DT?, and Damon Message-ID: No, for the record, once again, I did not go blind by playing with my weinie. I repeat. I did not go blind by playing with my weinie. Steve Vai might have, but I didn't. Thank you, drive through. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:20:43 -0500 From: Pat Sullivan To: email_address_removed Subject: backup vox Message-ID: > Who was doing background vocals for Mirror at Bh? When he yelled out >Hyjpocrite, James just burst into laughter. Kind of ruined the line, but it >was so funny, I almost pissed myself. I assume it was Mike Portnoy. At least, that's who did it at the Strand. As a matter of fact, the whole scene you just described happended in RI: Mike does the line, James starts laughing, then picks up the line. Must be an insode joke they just can't avoid. :) ----- ________Pat Sullivan__________________________________ E-mail: email_address_removed WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html IRC: DDictator NP: Trans-Siberian Orchestra - "Christmas Eve...." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:21:16 -0300 From: email_address_removed.br To: email_address_removed Subject: AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH! Message-ID: This post is a total waste of bandwidth, and I know it, and am sending it cause I'm kinda pissed off (flames privately, please :) ) Dammit... I tried... I got my messages today and the jams were coming: 2109, 2110, 2111... then it stopped... "Cool, I have a chance to get in 2112". Then I wrote that message, and when I reconnected (like, 2 minutes later) to post it, and after I was connected for 1 minute, I received a announcemente "A messagem from email_address_removed has just benn delivered from SMTP". Try to imagine what came to my mind, specially because my message was the FIRST int ytsejam 2113... 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But last I was informed, Tama does not own Mapex. I guess the reason Mike switched back is because he always loved Tama drums. I guess the reason he signed with Mapex is because they were the only company to endorse him at that time. You can't blame him, though. They're nice drums and you oughtta take an endorsment and run with it. I mean, this is the guy who plays Hot Sticks. :P Anyway, all of this was information spouted from the mouth of my drummer, a devout Portnoy worshipper. Besides, you asked. :P KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore) email_address_removed "Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to." --David Arkenstone ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 20:18:58 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (George Sumschidt) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2114 Message-ID: >Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 18:00:57 -0500 >From: "Fred Block" >To: >Subject: Neon and TGIF group shot >Message-ID: > >To the guy who flipped his Neon or whatever and did not even know it....In >the future....I do not recommend you telling that story to someone who just >met you...made ya look like....well...... kinda weird. :) No offense eh? > Uh, that would be me. Lesson to be learned here kiddies... NEVER mix alcohol and sobriety! What quote is it that comes to mind? Ah yes, "Instant asshole. Just add alcohol". Fred, I take no offense to your comment. Point well taken, dude. Perhaps, on recollection, my Neon story is _very old_. 'Nough said. On with the jam. P.S. I guessed Saturday at 7 pm) that jam #2112 would be out about 6:15 on Sunday evening. I was wrong! I admit it. Skadz, how could I know that every jammer that didn't go to the BH show would try and get a post onto #2112? Oh yeah. One more thing before I go. If you want to see or have the picture I took outside the TGIF, e-mail me (not the jam) at email_address_removed. I have to finish out the roll and get it developed. Uh, if you live near Cleveland and have a scanner, lemme know so I don't have to bother Buster again with this. Thank you, please drive through... G. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:22:39 -0600 (CST) From: Sava Web To: email_address_removed (Ytse Jam) Subject: TSO Sound Samples Message-ID: Jammers, TSO Sound Samples are on the Net!!! http://www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso -------------------------------------------------------------------------- email_address_removed Savatage Fan Web Pages Trans-Siberian Orchestra Web Pages www.winternet.com/~savaweb www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso W I N A G U I T A R (see URLs above) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 20:29:55 -0500 From: "Fission Chicken" To: email_address_removed Subject: Pothead at the Birch Hill show Message-ID: First off, let me say that this year's show completely kicked my ass. But there was one thing which *almost* ruined it for me.. The guy standing behind me was smoking pot! Arrrgh!!! You're at a friggin Dream Theater concert, you don't NEED drugs to be high! Sheesh. Well, other than that it was great.. new music, old music, and I was even able to breathe this time. :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 20:48:13 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek To: email_address_removed Subject: re: keys and penises Message-ID: >the guitar is phallic. the keys are not. girls who go see bands like >guys who play with phallic things because they are wholly convinced >that's how they play with their true phalli. males, ever-wise >marketers of the good of the world, realize this, and thus push all >other instruments out of the way. this is completely false. if this were true, everyone would play the chapman stick. look at http://clever.net/stick/stickwire/. the stick is the single most phallic instrument in existence, except possibly for those flutes that are actually sculpted to look like penes. how often do you see people playing the stick? williambajzek|email_address_removed|http://phoebe.dws.acs.cmu.edu/~wb2a/ twobirdsonestoneonechanceisthrowndon'tmakemistakestwothievesstrungupon eknifeonecuttwodoorsoneshutonefightonewayoneroadtotakewestandandwaitfr omcooltowarmfromdusk'tildawnfromfluxtoformkneelingontheroadtograceland ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 21:07:27 -0800 From: Brian To: email_address_removed Subject: WOOHOO! Message-ID: >Subject: YTSEJAM digest 2112 WOOHOO! Now when are we gonna get to YTSEJAM digest 5150? ;) ======================================================================== "Are you gonna bark all day, little ----- doggie, or are you gonna ---- ------------- ---- bite?"-Micheal Madsen, ---- - ---- Reservoir Dogs -- - - - - - - - -- "Just victims of the in-house - - - - - - - drive-by. They say jump, - - -- - -- - - you say 'How high?"-Rage -- - - - - - - - -- Against The Machine ---- - - - ---- later--------------Brian ---- ------------- ---- ----- ======================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 21:36:47 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: TSO, is there really a TSO??? Message-ID: Is it really true? has Jon Oliva done a sols album? ii killed me when he ditched the SAVA lead singing job. If he and O'Neil have gotten together I need it. Please anyone give me some info. When, Where, How etc. Thanks, Saint "TURN THEM ON AGAIN ONE MORE TIME FOR ME MY FRIEND" Savatage, When the Crowds are Gone. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:05:44 -0800 From: Ben Laussade To: email_address_removed Subject: In Regards to the Keys vs. Guitars Argument Message-ID: Face it, guys. Drummers rule the planet. Ben Laussade ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:10:43 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: help. Message-ID: anyone, i repeat anyone on the jame, if you bootlegged the birch hill show PLEASE< PLEASE To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2114 Message-ID: <0mh=message_id_removed> >I was disappointed when I heard that James says "shit" in one of the >new songs. Not that I don't listen to stuff with naughty words in it, >but I just always thought DT was above that sort of stuff. DON"T >STOOP TO RAP'S LEVEL!!!! whoa sorry about that. pull me undah, biotch williambajzek|email_address_removed|http://phoebe.dws.acs.cmu.edu/~wb2a/ twobirdsonestoneonechanceisthrowndon'tmakemistakestwothievesstrungupon eknifeonecuttwodoorsoneshutonefightonewayoneroadtotakewestandandwaitfr omcooltowarmfromdusk'tildawnfromfluxtoformkneelingontheroadtograceland ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:37:30 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Birch Hill and Bootleg Message-ID: Hey folks. I finally signed back onto the jam after a long time. anyhow, I went to the BH show last night and I was suprised that they came on before midnight. the new material is incredible, esp the song for JP's father (take the pain away) Peruvian nights and Soul Burning (i think) were great as well. anyhow, I NEED A BOOT. I must have it. it is a tradition of mine to get boots of DT shows that I go to. I hear that there is a tree. someone please email me @ with a subject BH Boot. plese give the info i need. thanx so much y'all later, Howard ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:42:53 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: stan Message-ID: The intro to killling hand is normally another hand. however, last night they used To live forever (instrumentally) as an intro.....JUST LIKE LIVE AT THE MARQUEE. So, stan, YOU should know your dream theater. you will still be you tomorrow when you find out that you are WRONG. listen to TLF on either TSM or Lie single (i forget which one) and you will know what the fuck I am talking about. how dare you insult me over the jam like that....ASSHOLE. have a merry fucking x-mas, if that is possible for your anal retentive, self centered, assanine, stupid self. fuck you very much too. Howard ps- I met Al B at the show and he seemed nice even though there was all that crap about him before. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:46:14 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: BH boot Message-ID: please anyone on the jam if you bootlegged the Birch Hill Show, email me and we can set up something, i really need a tape from this show. stan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:49:26 -0500 (EST) From: Jeremy Kube To: email_address_removed Subject: Providence...a good one. Message-ID: I have been to a great deal of concerts in the past couple months. One of which was Rush. I have to say that in comparison to Rush, Dream Theater didn't have much display wise but they were even better when displaying their talent. The show began with "ACoS" and after the acoustic section @ the beginning of "The Crimson Sunrise" was played off the CD the band continued with the remainder of the song. After that they BURST into Mirror/Lie and ROCKED the house apart (brief spurts of crowd surfing began, the security didn't like this much, in fact later in the show @ the end of one of their songs one of the crazed crowd surfers was thrown up on stage and security RiPpEd him off the stage. When the song ended KJ said in his Canadian accent "Bye-Bye...Bye-Bye" He later remarked when other crowd surfers were put up on stage, "We've got a fucking football game up here!" It was so funny the way he said it. I guess you had to be there to know exactly what I mean. I have to say the the new material is really HARD edged and perky. The melodic heavy rythems are awesome! I can't wait. "footsteps in the sand" is one of those songs. I can't wait until everything is ironed out and put on the album! It will seriously kick some ass. I was up for some change but at the same time I wanted to hear the old stuff off of Awake. They "fooled" around with "Caught in a web" they really slowed it down. I was looking forward to hearing the beginning of the song the way they usually play it, but I wasn't disappointed with what they did with it. It was one of those wierd things that they did that night. One of the other things they did was kick right into "Pull me under" from one of the new songs. Overall, I have to say that my first Dream Theater concert was un-fucking belivable and if given another opportunity I would definately attend another one of their shows. The only things I wish that they would have done was 1. Been able to do their encore, the Strand cut them short. 2. Have had less opening acts. 3. Less time between set changes. But, I realized that this wasn't really their fault. Oh, well the good definately outdid the bad. If you haven't had the opportunity to see Dream Theater yet you are deprived. Skip work, school or whatever to see them...it is well worth the risk.. Later...J ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2115 **************************