YTSEJAM Digest 2113 Today's Topics: 1) DT X-Mas CD by email_address_removed.br 2) Hearing Loss by thekid 3) birch hill, that guy howard next to me, new material by email_address_removed 4) java by "Monty J. Newberry" 5) TSO Cd by Corey Bell 6) Attention: Live simulated sex at the DECK BAR!! YOU DO KNOW by "Kevin W. Madden" 7) Altura...Dixie Dregs.. by Ytse-Kurt 8) anyways......... by email_address_removed 9) as for the kes vs. guit controversy by email_address_removed 10) Re: YTSEEar plugs and Blindness by Stephen Daedalus 11) Re: DT Collection for sale by Jason Breitweg 12) ooops by Jason Breitweg 13) LEMUR VOICE ON TELEVISION (TMF) !!! by Marcel Coenen 14) carpe diem by Wronskian 15) Sherinian, Portnoy by Steve Borzilleri 16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2112 by Brian Cox ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 14:50:20 -0300 From: email_address_removed.br To: email_address_removed Subject: DT X-Mas CD Message-ID: Hey Jammerz, Hmmm... I must say that this post is not really for making a question, but a simple attempt to have a message in the Ytsejam 2112 (hey! we finally made it! :) ) So, to make this post of some use and not to be a total waste of bandwidth, can someone tell me which songs are in the DTIFC x-mas cd you are receiving? I'm not a member of the fanclub, so I'll not be receiving one... :( []'s Marcelo Vanzin Sao Paulo - Brazil email_address_removed.br email_address_removed http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/index.html ÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ DarkStar Multimidia BBs Telnet: dks.com.br Fone +55 011 870-1888 Internet, Gameconection, Games, ShareWare ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 10:59:28 -0600 From: thekid To: email_address_removed Subject: Hearing Loss Message-ID: First post in a while, but it's an important subject. I now wear earplugs to all shows, practices, gigs, the works. I get my hearing tested annually at work, and although my hearing has not shown any dramatic loss, I do suffer from tinnitus. If you've ever been to a loud show (duh), the ringing in your ears after is what I experience all the time. The loudness of the ringing is only about 25-30% of the ringing immediately following a show, but it's there ALL THE TIME. From what I understand the worst it gets the more it sounds like everything you hear is being run through a distortion pedal. It actually sounds like frequencies are clipping. So, please, wear ear plugs. Your hearing diminishes naturally as you get older, and I've already screwed mine up, so I now dread the future. Imagine your favorite music sounding bad all the time, and it's you that's the weak link in the chain. Your hearing can't be upgraded. THE KID. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 12:16:51 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: birch hill, that guy howard next to me, new material Message-ID: ohhhh, wow, anyone that didnt get to see one of these shows should really be kicking themselves in the head right about now. The only word that comes to mind is FLAWLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! James sounded much better than last year, mike your new kit sounds ohh so sweet, whoever said derek was doing all of those 32nd notes, i had a good enough position to watch him, (i didnt really see any, wouldnt have cared as he is very powerful on stage). what a show, i absolutly love what they did to all of their old songs that was rockin!!!!!!!! ok, heres the fun part(and where i really got annoyed_) there was this guy standing next to me( a real loser) howard, he was so damn ytse-annoying, and to boot had no clue about anything. as the boys started playing killing hand(rocked really hard) hes pulling on my arm saying its to live forever, i had to laugh in his face cause even though not many people knew this one many who did were going nuts (like me). I told him he doesnt know his theater and laughed in his face, he tried to prove me wrong up until the vocals come in..............so to howard, i give a hearty "Kiss my ass" as he really annoyed me on more than that one occasion. the new stuff, wow, what an amazing thing to hear new songs b4 they are recorded, hearing them in there roughest purest state was an absolute treat. i would have to say that my favorite of the new ones is burning my soul TWISTING..........TURNING.......... the delivery on those to words in the song sent chills down my spine. what a sho, loads better then last years BH........ im off to bed for more sleep, stan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 11:42:50 +0000 From: "Monty J. Newberry" To: email_address_removed Subject: java Message-ID: >Musical coffee....that brings to mind J.S.Bach's "Coffee Cantata". >So *that's* how he wrote so much music! I just wish all the coffee I >drink got me to do more schoolwork. How do you think I got through four years of college - CAFFEINE!!!!! As much as I HATE working in a mall, at least I get free coffee :). Ear plugs. Waer them. I remember seeing Megadeth last summer. I wore plugs, the dude I was with didn't. He couldn't hear after the first opener (Fear Factory). I could hear after the entire show (and I could hear the bands really well, too). Plugs were a necessity at Maiden (since I was about 3 or 4 feet from the front speakers). Man, and I missed jam 2112 by one. Crap. Went to pick up some Metallica tix for a friend yesterday. I'm not going to the show (unless I can score some free ones and am in the area when they play). I heard the stage is supposed to take up almost the entire floor of the Kiel Center. That's friggin' big. Okay, sorry for the uselessness of this post. Dale R. Newberry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 12:36:33 -0500 From: Corey Bell To: email_address_removed Subject: TSO Cd Message-ID: <199612151736.MAA00338@inx> I am trying to find the Trans Siberian Orchestra cd here in Illinois and I am not having very good luck. I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Corey ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 13:00:16 -0500 From: "Kevin W. Madden" To: People Who Fell From The Sky Subject: Attention: Live simulated sex at the DECK BAR!! YOU DO KNOW Message-ID: Ah, sleep. It's 12:30pm and I have just come from my slumber. Unlike some of you losers, I felt not the need to post upon my arrival from the totally inadequate confines of Birch Hill. ((The deck bar is open, you assholes)) So, instead of giving an account of the show, because that surely will be done upto infinity and beyond, I will recount the magical happy story of one (well, two if you count my passenger) man's struggle to find the fucking club and all things other that can go wrong. First, I left from sunny (or was it cloudy?) Cape St. Claire, Maryland, on the banks of the Magothy River. I pick up Mr. Backof over near Baltimore and we are on our way. I listen to Superior for the firt time. I wasn't as impressed as I thought I would be. Then, somewhere in Jersey we stop for facility utilization. I return to the car, and hello! If it isn't the ever-friendly "Check Engine" light. Ok, I can deal with that. We continue to exit eight, get off, ease on down the road (allusion to the times when Michael was still black. Jackson that is.) Strangely enough, my car seems to be accelerating by itself. That is, I AM NOT PRESSING ON THE GAS, YET I AM ACCELERATING. As I repeated numerous times this evening, "This is not good." Engine light on. Engine light off. Clutch in, rpms revving. Argh. So we go along northbound on 9. No sign of Birch Hill. "Hey, there's TGIF!" he said. "Well, where's the K-MART?" Ok, let's ease on down the road. Soon there is another TGIF. Hmm. The club should be around here somewhere. So we continued along 9 north. "Hey, how'd we get on the fucking parkway again?" "Let's pull a u-turn" "Damn." So we exit, pay our 35 cents and go back and pay another 35. Go back south on 9. Pull into the TGIF. No one resembling a long-haired hippy fuck. Ok, let's eat. So we eat. We see a guy in jam shirt. So. We aren't the only ones. Then we go back south on 9, and pull into coconuts records. "So, where the hell is Birch Hill?" "Right down the road." Hmm, so maybe we went to the wrong TGIF....Entering the new TGIF, we see a long table full of happy, expectant (not that way) Jammers, some of whom were friendly, some of whom were not. Ms. Dragon chastises our idiocy. All I have to say is that NJ should be eliminated from the map if for no other reason than the stupid bottle-necks (jug-heads, whatever). I drove back and forth because, like an idiot, I assumed u-turns are made from the left lane. "Oh, there's the jug neck!" "Shit." Car is still mysteriously assuming a Christine-like behavior. So finally we reach Birch Hill. Looooooong ass line. Coooooold ass wind. But I had thought to wear my jacket. So we get in and the crush begins. We situate between the two bars in the back. Mike is tall, so no problem for him. Asshole. Some people congratulate me on my choice of Red Wings apparel. Others scoff at their choking come play-off time. So the opener starts up right away. Not too bad, but I saw effectively nothing of the show. Then, BEFORE 11 O'CLOCK, DT comes on. Wow. That's early. Idiots squish in some more. Drunks dangerously wave lit cigarettes near my 175 dollar Wings sweater. Grrrrrr. Two people toke up right next to the bar. Cigarette smoke decends, covers, and infiltrates. We decide to move over to the source of fresh air, *the deck bar door.* Now I experience the sensation of freezing and burning up at the same time. A fat guy blocks the breeze. Hot. Fat guy leans to the other side. Freeze. Drunks in cowboy boots slip on the wet stairs. People laugh uncontrolably. Somehow the drunk with the cigarette (which one, you ask?) makes it over there and starts waving his burn around again. I try to make myself smaller. Fat guy #2 seizes the day, so to speak, to steal my sqaure foot of space. Asshole. Meanwhile, there is a concert going on. They *sound* good....But, who knows what they look like? Note: why do all middle-aged NJ meatheads have to wear a bandanna on their fat, balding heads? *Dude* we still notice! So, I look at the monitor to see the show. Nice resolution Mr. Fuckin' Circuit City. No good. The wind picks up. Damn it's cold over here by the door. Hmm. No where to move.The show ends at a very respectable hour, 200 people stick around. I remove my ear plugs just in time to be plastered to the wall by ACDC and Rush. Fuck this. I am driving the 3 1/2 hours back home tonight. Hopefully Mike can find the buried key in his grandparent's yard or else....Grandpa's getting woken up at 5:00am. The ride home is uneventful, beside Christine, er...my car's unexpected acceleration and generally freaky behavior. Of course I just took it in for service on Thursday....I can just see telling the cops, "But officer, *I* wasn't speeding, it was the damn car!" Anyway, I got home at 5:30, went directly to bed, and didn't rise until now. It was good meeting some of you - others...well, we can't all be as cool as you. Kevin GO WINGS!!! GO PACKERS!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 14:37:50 -0500 From: Ytse-Kurt To: El Jam Subject: Altura...Dixie Dregs.. Message-ID: Hey.. just bought altura's cd.. i must say it is awesome.. its very good.. very reminiscent to DT (imo) .. liked it alot.. i also picked up Dixie Dreg's Full Circle.. i was a little dissapointed.. i had listened to a live one... and it was a little better..but this ones' ok.. but i expected a bit more...can anyone recomend other Dregs cd's more in the bring them back alive vein? anyway to find Full Circle was a bitch..i cant imagine trying to find older cd's -- Look around...hear the sounds... Cherish your life,while you're still around... WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 14:23:03 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: anyways......... Message-ID: there was one important word in this phrase i unintentionally left out, mr. rick audet, and so i'll put it in, to make it seem like i wasn't quite attacking you. there should've been a "me" inserted in that sentence. i'm sorry, ricky........i didn't mean to make it seem like i was insulting you..... as for..... . thank you, rick, i wasn't sure if i was being a dick. i'm glad you had the insight to remind me. i feel lots better now. the trademark also re-affirms to me that you calling me a dick carries some weight. consider me censured. anyways......... now that this debate has fallen into a realm of stupid name calling and we've BOTH misread each other hopelessly now, .....this "jazz for the dt listener" issue is really getting dull. so here's how i'll end my part here. if you don't like it, yadda yadda yadda. whatever.......... jazz for the dt listener: fine, fusion is all good and that. if that so happens to make the dt listener comfortable, whatever. that's great. i just really object to what seems to be this silly attitude i see prevalent (not necessarily just here on the jam); this attitude that coltrane and miles are too much for a prog listener to get into. i think that's stupid and retarded, and i thought i saw that in your post. if that wasn't the case, whatever. that's fine, too. if that was, i just happen to think that's some lame shit going on. but whatever, to appease the gods, i'm stating again, that i don't intend to offend anyone, so please accept my humble remarks as benign. -truth is, not that i REALLY care, but i figure, it's good to be civil occasionally. as for the people trying to convert their girlfriends into dt fans (i believe mr. rick mentioned this in the jam- further proof that i read your posts).........it doesn't work. don't bother. it's a retarded venture, that should be left alone. believe it or not, i had a girlfriend, too. i even took her to a dt show, and she seemed to "enjoy" it. truth is, if she really likes dt (or any other band, for that matter), she'll do it herself. as cool as it would be to have someone to wear matching dt shirts and ytsejam keychains with, trying to convert her to liking dt is pointless. i think the next girlfriend i ever get (if i am so lucky, since i'm such a scummy fucker), i'll see to it that i don't bore with her with, "oh, you wanna listen to a change of seasons? how about some metropolis?". i'll take my alanis angry, please. ho hum. i starting to really HATE this christmas season. and now that we're over our penis-envy about posting on the great 2112 jam, i hope things go back to normal..... wake me up when it's time. thanks. jesus fucking christ. ytsegoon, the boy with the musically flexible ears. **************************************************************** david kobayashi email_address_removed email_address_removed "my yellow in this case is not so mellow, in fact, i'm trying to say it's frightened like me. and all of these emotions of mine keep holding me from giving my life to a rainbow like you...." -j. hendrix "through nature's inflexible grace, i'm learning to live." - j. myung **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 14:23:06 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: as for the kes vs. guit controversy Message-ID: assuming that someone still will listen to me, namely damon. as for your gripe that keys players get no respect- i totally fucking agree with you. i wanted to get that across previously, but then i got stuck with some other stupid thread. and you know what? i hate admitting this too, but keyboardists will always be where they are, whatever position in the musical hiearchy you call it. they will constantly be overlooked. this is why: the guitar is phallic. the keys are not. girls who go see bands like guys who play with phallic things because they are wholly convinced that's how they play with their true phalli. males, ever-wise marketers of the good of the world, realize this, and thus push all other instruments out of the way. but what about drums? what's so phallic about drums, and they get all the attention, too. well, some girls get so enthralled by guys beating on things, well....the rest is history. if any of these statements sound outdated (as prog itself is accused of being), forgive me, damon- i've deleted the other jams where this has been discussed. we should be drinking buddies- we'd probably conspire to blow up the pentagon. as for you and bafu getting kicked off the jam- that would be a great service to the ytsejam community. i mean, bafu is such a fucking idiot, and i mean, you ramble too god damn much. i'd probably go with you, though, since i've been nothing short of wonderful myself. ahahahah. the humor. yadda yadda yadda, ytsegoon **************************************************************** david kobayashi email_address_removed email_address_removed "energy, intensity, eclecticism" - robert fripp "the present-day composer refuses to die." -e. varese **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 14:35:53 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Daedalus To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEEar plugs and Blindness Message-ID: OK. Have you guys ever heard about the ear plugs that cost about forty bucks but that a specialist crafts to your ears in particular to make the sound perfect, but simply in a lower decibel range? Sound cool to me. Damon, I think you are over-stressing the need to breach people's fear or disrespect of blindness to succeed in music. I have been blind for as long as I can remember (two years old or so) and musically, if I play well and work on the songs and they're what people want to hear, they aplaud and apreciate me. Look at the classics Stevy Wonder, Ray Charles, Jeff Healy, etc. They've been very respected and I don't even think Healy can play decently enough. Personally, I think other problems exist for people like us in the music industry, but here's something very important. By being on the net and meeting people through severs like these for the first time, that first impression of "the blind guy" is dropped. When non-impaired people find out that someone who they've been corresponding with is impaired, most people's minds are opened, I believe and these people are people who are musically involved and can help educate the masses. What do you sighted people think? On a similar note, does anyone know of a good composition/sequencer program that runs on IBM's with a DOS interface? The music lab on campus only has Phenally (or however you spell it) and that is only accessable to me through other people. Thanks for tollerating this long-ass post. Happy holidays. Be safe and well. M B "Mary: Why is there evil in the world, Alexandra? Alexandra: To thicken the plot." (On the Verge, ) "The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams College) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 13:57:18 -0600 From: Jason Breitweg To: email_address_removed Cc: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT Collection for sale Message-ID: Hi Olaf, Olaf> To all you DT maniacs : A big DT Collection is for sale now! Olaf> If you're interested send me a mail and I'll send you a list Olaf> and all the informations you need. For Sale : Promo CD's, Olaf> LP's, tapes, videos, CD -Singles and many CD's. (Rare Import Olaf> CD's from JP and the US!) I saw this a while ago on Usenet. Could you please send me a copy of the stuff that you have left? Thanks. Jason -- Jason Breitweg --> email_address_removed, email_address_removed.de http://lobelia.physics.wisc.edu/jbreitwe, http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg "The Gods Made Heavy Metal And It's Never Gonna Die!" - MANOWAR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 13:57:52 -0600 From: Jason Breitweg To: email_address_removed Subject: ooops Message-ID: I need to be more careful with that CC: line, sorry for the accidental post. Jason -- Jason Breitweg --> email_address_removed, email_address_removed.de http://lobelia.physics.wisc.edu/jbreitwe, http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg "The Gods Made Heavy Metal And It's Never Gonna Die!" - MANOWAR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 21:09:57 +0200 From: Marcel Coenen To: email_address_removed Subject: LEMUR VOICE ON TELEVISION (TMF) !!! Message-ID: Hi Jammers, Tomorrow, monday december 16th there is a special about the festival "Headbanger's Heaven" on the dutch television, on TMF (The Music Factory), the programm is called "Wet and Wild" and Lemur Voice will also be a part of that programm. So all of you, go to watch us on TV !! Another question, does anyone know the band TOXIK out there ? Does anyone know what became of the bandmembers from TOXIK, I really liked that band a lot, especially the guitarwork from Josh Christian, please, anyone ?? I really want to know what those guys are doing at the moment, especially that guitarist Josh Christian. Greetings from all Lemur Voice members, Marcel Coenen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | --- - - | | | | | * | | | ---- ----- - - /--- | ------- --- ---- ---- | | | |-- | | | | | |--| | | | | | | |-- | | ------- ---- - - - ---- | \ ----- ---- --- ---- ---- | | | | Marcel Coenen | | Guitarist LEMUR VOICE | | | | E-Mail: mcoenen@cobweb.nl | | | | Lemur Voice Homepage URL: http://www.cobweb.nl/mcoenen | | | | Check out our new album "INSIGHTS" available at | | Magna Carta (USA) and Roadrunner (Europe & Japan) | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 14:34:24 -0600 (CST) From: Wronskian To: ytsejam Subject: carpe diem Message-ID: Did anyone in the states get their Carpe Diem cd yet? I havent gotten mine and was wondering what was up with it. Ed Chat with: talk email_address_removed WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/ BOOTLEGS: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/boots/boots.html ------------------------------------------------------------ - Duct Tape is like The Force: It has a Dark Side, it - - has a light side, and it holds the Universe together. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 13:13:55 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri To: Dream Thespians Subject: Sherinian, Portnoy Message-ID: > From: Jeffrey Robert Chew > Subject: Derek Sherinian > > I think Derek Sherinian would be the last person in the world who would > be homosexual. Whatever do you mean, Jeff? ---- > From: Luke > Subject: 6 Strings Vs Keys > > I can't believe that Damon and Bafu are arguing over the superiority of > instruments. Me neither. Probably because I'm not. Anyone at the shows happen to see what kind of kit Mike Portnoy is using? Is he back with Mapex? Tama? Maxwell House? Bafu Vai ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 15:22:06 -0600 (CST) From: Brian Cox To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2112 Message-ID: now that the shows are over, ie. spoilers dont matter, can somone send me the correct setlists for all the shows? i dont really read the ytsejam anymore, and am disappointed that i decided to not go see/tape the shows at the last minute. i want to see what i missed. somone said something about they played lots of rush at the end of the birch hill show, what's up with that? <><><><><><><><><> Brian V. Cox (email_address_removed) <><><><><><><><><> <>Rush|Dream Theater|Queensryche|King's X|Echolyn|King Crimson|Voivod><> "You have to systematically create confusion - it sets creativity free. Everything that is contradictory creates life." -Salvador Dali, 1980 <><><><><><><><><>DAT Taper/Trader - Email me for list<><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><>< http://www.metronet.com/~lerxst/ ><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2113 **************************