YTSEJAM Digest 2110 Today's Topics: 1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2107 by "Richard A. Rivera" 2) too damn loud by email_address_removed (acook) 3) Action Figures. by "Jeremy C. Hallum" 4) Re: too damn loud by Fernando Ma 5) Re: Action Figures by Stephen Daedalus 6) Replacement CD cases by Fernando Ma 7) Parental Jammerz by Nick Guadagnoli 8) DT Christmas CD!!!! by email_address_removed (Dan Temmesfeld) 9) Re: Savatage Christmas album by Sava Web 10) TSO by RipZero 11) Re: Please don't go and stretches by Carlos Alfaro 12) Re: too damn loud by Carlos Alfaro 13) moody blues is prog? by Partha Mukhopadhyay 14) more fun galore, echolyn question by RipZero 15) Re: moody blues is prog? by Carlos Alfaro 16) Ytsejam Information by "Ryan P. Skadberg" 17) New Single? by "Jan-Michael Souter" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:50:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard A. Rivera" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2107 Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Dec 1996 email_address_removed wrote: > But look at all the substandard people who are idolized by > guitarists. The guy from Bonjovi, for a while when Bonjovi was king, (bleh). > Sorry, guys, he's not all that. Flame me if you want, Bonjovi fans, but the > guy just writes cheesey love balads. Okay, now you're really asking for it. Richie Sambora is one of the best guitarists out there today. Not because he is the most techincally proficient, especially when compared to people like Satch and Vai like you go on to do in your post, and not because he is the most innovative either. His playing so fluid and fits so well for the song and he does have alot of technical ability too. Granted, when Bon Jovi first came out, he was trying to fit in with all the other guitar god types. But in the last couple of years he has really let his blues influences out and you can hear that on his solo album "Stranger In This Town," which if you have the balls to buy you'll find that it debunks the myth that all he can write are "cheesy love ballads." In fact he is one hell of a song-writer. > Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me? Who's sinking to my level. I happen to think I am on > a very high level of discussion. Pardon me for having a tough period in my > life. Pardon me for losing my cool briefly. I'm sorry that I can't be as cool > as you, Bafu. [various whining and bitching graciously deleted] Everyone's got problems dude, not everyone takes them out on total strangers. > I should just be unsubscribed from Ytsejam without my own > consent. All in favor....? I am such a lowly human being. Here's proof, my under-developed > retinas. Listen up. You've got a chip on your shoulder the size of Greyhound bus. Just because you're blind doesn't give you an excuse to act like an asshole. Grow up. Have you ever thought that the fact that you are a keyboard player is not the reason why people are not letting you into their bands? Maybe they don't want to jam with assholes. I know I sure don't. Hell, I need some support, too ya know. > What you need is a relaxation tape. Richie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:56:11 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (acook) To: email_address_removed Subject: too damn loud Message-ID: > The >worst part (and I was right next to the soundboard so there are no excuses) >was when James would try some of those high wails. Those screeches were >soooo nasty. They sounded out of tune and the breakup was insane. I >remain very supportive of James and I really think that this was the fault >of the sound system/volume level and not James' fault but Jesus, I thought >that my skin would curl on each one. If you cant play loud cleanly, then >please turn it down until the sound IS clean. I've said it a billion times and I'll say it again, get some damn earplugs. People worry about wearing them, think that if they're not manly or something if they do, but that's just plain stupid. I had those squishy ones in at this show, and with the exception of the bass drum slamming my chest, the sound was great. I could actually HEAR everything clearly, even the words to the songs. As far as James' screaming was concerned, he actually wasn't out of tune most of the night. I think he's lost some of his range though, because he couldn't hit the late 3 highest notes in that part of Learning To Live towards the end of the instrumental. Once again, ear plugs do not muffle the sound, they just turn it down to a safe, comfortable level, and actually make everything a lot clearer. Adam Cook email_address_removed visit me at, http://www.tiac.net/users/com (hard hat construction area!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 18:38:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeremy C. Hallum" To: email_address_removed Subject: Action Figures. Message-ID: Hey! I got me two of those laughing D-Man figures.... I'll trade someone for a Richie Rivera one. I need one for my 48 hour roadtrip playset! I'll even throw in my extra Bafu(with swinging guitar action) and my Damon (with swinging keyboard action). It's a real DEAL!!!! -jeremy OBYJ: Thanks to Andy Keegan for the help with the lyrics to the verses of TAMP. Hmm.... that acronym don't look too good. Take Away My Pain. Just need the second verse and the bridges now. +==========================================================================+ # _ ,/| #grad student, Boston U.#"He's sitting at the edge of the bed # #'\`o O' # Boston, MA 02134 # staring at the headlines in paper # # =(_^_)=# Astronomy # He said 'Look at poor Gene Kelly # # |U| # <*> <*> <*> # I guess he won't be singing in the rain'# # # Jeremy Hallum # You Took Away All My Heroes # # # email_address_removed # Can you Take Away My Pain"-Dream Theater# +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:20:37 -0700 (MST) From: Fernando Ma To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: too damn loud Message-ID: I too am a supporter of earplugs, both when performing and listening. For me, it cut's out the really high frequencies and helps make the bass stick out (me being a bass player and all...). =09=09Fernando Ma =09=09Materials science & engineering =09=09University of Arizona =09=09http://bigdog.engr.arizona.edu/~ma =09"Chaos is the unb=F3dercurrent of everything we do in life" - =09Danny Carey, TOOL drummer. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 19:21:33 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Daedalus To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Action Figures Message-ID: How 'bout Mike and Irine with huge newly-wed shit-eating grins on their faces? They'll have to tell us about any classic moments at the wedding. Be well. Matt B "Mary: Why is there evil in the world, Alexandra? Alexandra: To thicken the plot." (On the Verge, ) "The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams College) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:22:15 -0700 (MST) From: Fernando Ma To: ytsejam list Subject: Replacement CD cases Message-ID: Anyone know where I can get replacement cases for the DT singles-type cases? The IFC X-mas CD rules. =09=09Fernando Ma =09=09Materials science & engineering =09=09University of Arizona =09=09http://bigdog.engr.arizona.edu/~ma =09"Chaos is the unb=F3dercurrent of everything we do in life" - =09Danny Carey, TOOL drummer. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 16:42:19 -0800 (PST) From: Nick Guadagnoli To: email_address_removed Subject: Parental Jammerz Message-ID: This is ONE more thing that helps me relate to my dad: He and I both dig: DT, Dixie Dregs, Kansas, Frank Zappa, King Crimson, King's X, Queensr˙che, Genesis and a lot of others. We are the only ones in the family that don't fight over what radio station to put on, or which CD to play in the case of my truck. On another note: Boy am I glad I went for the loud stereo when I bought a system!! I just put a new exhaust on my toyota, and I would not have been able to hear LTL this morning when I was driving. Thank Bob for the little things. Hasta Luego, y Plácido Domingo, ProgRockBoy CD: Yes- "Drama" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 20:17:21 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Dan Temmesfeld) To: email_address_removed Subject: DT Christmas CD!!!! Message-ID: I just got mine today!!! Nice!!!! What a great band!! They really appreciate their fans, and this shows!!! I'm really psyched...10 DT CDs in my collection now, and 2 more from Mike Bahr on within the next few months (hopefully)... :) Dan ---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - email_address_removed / email_address_removed "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Page" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm ---+ +--- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 19:55:25 -0600 (CST) From: Sava Web To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Savatage Christmas album Message-ID: > > Does anyone know or have a Savatage Christmas album? A co-worker told me > about it last night and I'm going to go looking for it after the Xmas rush is > over. > > Most likely he was reffering to Trans-Siberian Orchestra. A side project of Paul O'Neill and Jon Oliva. TSO is getting some air play on Radio and on MTV!!! Call up and request it!! Last day to enter the TSO Guitar Give Away is Dec 15th !!! Enter NOW!!! http://www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso -------------------------------------------------------------------------- email_address_removed Savatage Fan Web Pages Trans-Siberian Orchestra Web Pages www.winternet.com/~savaweb www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso W I N A G U I T A R (see URLs above) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 20:21:09 -0600 From: RipZero To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds Subject: TSO Message-ID: ah, i let my mom listen to TSO today while she was putting up decor for the holidays... lets see, this is the what, twelfth time she's played it now? haha, good thing christmas is only once a year!!! ;) what an awesome cd though, this one should go down in the books. ~Rip ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 22:28:41 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Please don't go and stretches Message-ID: Stephen Daedalus wrote: > > Guys, why do people scream "please don't go" during that section of ACOS? > Also, fuck yeah!!! I just made it to the first fret with J P's > stretches without hurting my hand. Raw flexibility, that's me. > Matt B Because inthe original Acos,james Screams "please dont go" ..and also after "he is my only one..now that my time has come..now that my life is done we look into the ??? sun ..." instead of saying "seize the day and dont you cry..blah" he starts screaming "dont go..dont gooo pleaseedont goo dont gooo" ... it sounds really emotional.. > > "Mary: Why is there evil in the world, Alexandra? > Alexandra: To thicken the plot." (On the Verge, ) > > "The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams > College) -- Look around...hear the sounds... Cherish your life,while you're still around... WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 22:33:36 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: too damn loud Message-ID: Fernando Ma wrote: > > I too am a supporter of earplugs, both when performing and listening. For > me, it cut's out the really high frequencies and helps make the bass stick > out (me being a bass player and all...). > Even thought i dont use them.. cuz i dont play much live ..or with a band..as amatter of fact :) ..but when i do ocassionally play with people and stuff.. dont use em.. i really recomend them for people who really listen to loud music..and are exposed to it a lot.. a good example is Eric Johnson (is it him or Steve morse) who developed tinitus.. which is a really bad hering desease (you hear loud ringin in the ears constantly i think) ... -- Look around...hear the sounds... Cherish your life,while you're still around... WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 21:51:14 -0500 (EST) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: moody blues is prog? Message-ID: saw a story about all the bx sets coming out in time for christmas season, and there was one for "the progressive era of rock and roll" or something like that.......said it limited bands to only two songs, tops, so yes and elp were underrepresented....and wasted space on some other bands i'd never heard of.....then it said it also included the moody blues.....wha??? sure, they got the orchestration stuff happening, but are they really considered prog? and, has anyone plunked down the $60 to get this, or heard any of it? I ain't gonna be buying it, but I'd love to know if whoever put it out did a good jonb representing prog...... partha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 20:53:34 -0600 From: RipZero To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds Subject: more fun galore, echolyn question Message-ID: well, i finished up ALLLL my x-mas shopping today :) WOOHOO! anyways, does anyone know how many copies were originally made of Echolyn's first cd and even of the EP? since it's long gone now and i'm just getting into them i'm just wondering how many are floting around :) thanks! ~Rip ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 23:00:07 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: moody blues is prog? Message-ID: Partha Mukhopadhyay wrote: > > saw a story about all the bx sets coming out in time for christmas season, > and there was one for "the progressive era of rock and roll" or something > > and, has anyone plunked down the $60 to get this, or heard any of it? I > ain't gonna be buying it, but I'd love to know if whoever put it out did a > good jonb representing prog...... > partha Whos featured on it!!?!?!? Look around...hear the sounds... Cherish your life,while you're still around... WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 00:00:02 -0500 From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" To: email_address_removed Subject: Ytsejam Information Message-ID: (IF THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU ARE SEEING THIS POST, PLEASE READ IT THROUGH COMPLETELY, THERE IS ALOT OF IMPORTANT INFORMATION) Hey All .... Here is my new weekly posting about how to get the most (or least if you don't like us) out of the ytsejam. This will be coming out weekly (hopefully) at least for a while since we are quickly gaining subscribers since school is now back in session. I may post it less often after a while, but for now, it will be weekly. 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JM pink! pink! pink! :> ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 2110 **************************