YTSEJAM Digest 1645 Today's Topics: 1) asdf (WWW generated email) by Warren Armstrong 2) Re: now THIS is DT content!!! More please?? by email_address_removed 3) ****YOU CAN WIN A (boot) CD by Dream Theater**** by email_address_removed 4) ****YOU CAN WIN A (boot) CD by Dream Theater**** by email_address_removed 5) ALmost forgot...you can see the stickers by email_address_removed 6) in answer to a ? by email_address_removed 7) Re: now THIS is DT content!!! More please?? by "Robert Quezada" 8) number-one(not-Riker) (WWW generated email) by Yutaka OTsuka 9) My 1st post... by email_address_removed 10) Green day/new to the list by "James P. Garrett" 11) JM bass video by Monty Newberry 12) An excuse to post - cool :) by "C.S. Frankel" 13) Bospop Weert by Wessel Marquering 14) being there by email_address_removed.ch 15) asdf (WWW generated email) by Volker Scheunemann 16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1644 by Steve Mueller 17) Beavis & Butthead by email_address_removed 18) re: the B&B post (huh huh) by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 21:49:31 -0400 From: Warren Armstrong To: email_address_removed Subject: asdf (WWW generated email) Message-ID: 5 Old Cassowary St. Freshwater, Cairns, 4870 Queensland, Australia. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:29:00 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: now THIS is DT content!!! More please?? Message-ID: In a message dated 96-06-19 15:55:07 EDT, you write: << All in all, it was lots of fun and great to see all the jammers. We asked John about the Con and he definately knew about it and said that they should be there. He said they were still searching for a producer. He said they basically missed the October window to get an album out and they wanted to skip Christmas, and that the end of January or February will probably be when the album comes out. He didn't play any of the new music at the clinic, but mentioned Metropolis Pt ][. That's about all I can type now, considering I was up til 4AM, but if I think of anything else that was sorta interesting, I will post :) Skadz >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:36:48 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: ****YOU CAN WIN A (boot) CD by Dream Theater**** Message-ID: Hey all you Ytsejamers- The (new) limited Dream Theater stickers are here...and ready for ship-out! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Would you like a chance to win a limited edition CD by Dream Theater? The CD is "When Dream And Today Unite". (by mike b/Prism Records). I believe there is only 1000 in print. Some of the following live songs are on this cd: A Fortune In Lies, Get Funky, The Ytsejam, Light Fuse and Get Away, Mission Impossible, To Live Forever, Only A Matter Of Time, and several others! A must for any DT fan! If you order (3) or more stickers by August 15th, 1996 your name will be entered in a drawing to win "WHEN DREAM AND TODAY UNITE". The drawing will be held August 16th, 1996 and will be announced via E-MAIL & Ytsejam maillist that day. (don't forget to send your email address with your order). * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ABOUT THE STICKER: The Dream Theater sticker is simple, yet captivating! It will get attention. The sticker is 3 inches x 3 inches. It is made of vinyl, so the quality is nice. It is a 3 color sticker. At the top of the sticker says, "Dream Theater". In the middle of the sticker is has the "Majesty symbol" (in a yellowish/white tint). The majority of the middle background is a dark blue color. With black fade in,on the top and bottom. On the bottom of the sticker says, "-YTSEJAM-". I must take this moment to thank, "Thinker" from the Ytsejam maillist, he did the artwork for the sticker. Thank you! If you are not completely satisfied with the sticker(s) I will refund your money for any unused stickers. 100 % guaranteed! ---(don't forget, if you order 3 or more, you will be entered in the drawing for the boot DT CD)--- IF YOU would like your own sticker(s)...then you can write to the address below. The Stickers are only $2.00 each. (includes shipping and handling). (U.S. Currency/check/M.O. accepted). Orders *Outside the U.S./add $1.00 for shipping/on any # ordered). (((want to get even a better deal??? If you order 10 or more stickers at any one time...your cost is $1.50 each)* (total $15.00). ALSO if you order 10 or more, your name will be entered in the DT CD drawing five (5) times, so your chances to win are greater!))) FOR RUSH ORDER/write to: TRS GROUP 11184 Antioch Road SUITE 701 Overland Park, Kansas 66210 USA (checks and M.O. made out to: TRS GROUP). (Don't forget your email address, and make sure you have the above "suite" number on the outside of your envelope). all orders are shipped out next business day. If you have ANY questions, feel free to write me! take care, todd s email_address_removed -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:37:48 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: ****YOU CAN WIN A (boot) CD by Dream Theater**** Message-ID: Hey all you Ytsejamers- The (new) limited Dream Theater stickers are here...and ready for ship-out! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Would you like a chance to win a limited edition CD by Dream Theater? The CD is "When Dream And Today Unite". (by mike b/Prism Records). I believe there is only 1000 in print. Some of the following live songs are on this cd: A Fortune In Lies, Get Funky, The Ytsejam, Light Fuse and Get Away, Mission Impossible, To Live Forever, Only A Matter Of Time, and several others! A must for any DT fan! If you order (3) or more stickers by August 15th, 1996 your name will be entered in a drawing to win "WHEN DREAM AND TODAY UNITE". The drawing will be held August 16th, 1996 and will be announced via E-MAIL & Ytsejam maillist that day. (don't forget to send your email address with your order). * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ABOUT THE STICKER: The Dream Theater sticker is simple, yet captivating! It will get attention. The sticker is 3 inches x 3 inches. It is made of vinyl, so the quality is nice. It is a 3 color sticker. At the top of the sticker says, "Dream Theater". In the middle of the sticker is has the "Majesty symbol" (in a yellowish/white tint). The majority of the middle background is a dark blue color. With black fade in,on the top and bottom. On the bottom of the sticker says, "-YTSEJAM-". I must take this moment to thank, "Thinker" from the Ytsejam maillist, he did the artwork for the sticker. Thank you! If you are not completely satisfied with the sticker(s) I will refund your money for any unused stickers. 100 % guaranteed! ---(don't forget, if you order 3 or more, you will be entered in the drawing for the boot DT CD)--- IF YOU would like your own sticker(s)...then you can write to the address below. The Stickers are only $2.00 each. (includes shipping and handling). (U.S. Currency/check/M.O. accepted). Orders *Outside the U.S./add $1.00 for shipping/on any # ordered). (((want to get even a better deal??? If you order 10 or more stickers at any one time...your cost is $1.50 each)* (total $15.00). ALSO if you order 10 or more, your name will be entered in the DT CD drawing five (5) times, so your chances to win are greater!))) FOR RUSH ORDER/write to: TRS GROUP 11184 Antioch Road SUITE 701 Overland Park, Kansas 66210 USA (checks and M.O. made out to: TRS GROUP). (Don't forget your email address, and make sure you have the above "suite" number on the outside of your envelope). all orders are shipped out next business day. If you have ANY questions, feel free to write me! take care, todd s email_address_removed -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:46:52 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: ALmost forgot...you can see the stickers Message-ID: If you would like to see the new DT sticker, then see: H T T P : / / W W W . D R E A M T . O R G (look in the merchandise section). The picture will not be up for about 15 more days. Thanks! ___ see ya todd s email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:57:58 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: in answer to a ? Message-ID: I forgot to mention the part about the Savatage date at Jaxx being postponed. I knew that. I just forgot. ::slapping self on wrist:: Kevin Madden inquires: << Jamie, I wonder about your signature. It read "Jamie the exasperating Dragon" Is that what you meant to say? You are exasperating? Or are you exasperated because Savatage isn't coming? Just curious. >> The adjectives I use are generally inside jokes of a sort. I said "exasperating" because I exasperate people. Certain folks will agree with this wholeheartedly, if not in public. ;) Though I will admit that I *am* a wee bit put out about the 'tage date being cancelled; every other time I've had a chance to see them, all before Criss was killed, I was underage and couldn't get into the clubs they were playing. Jaime the snoopy Dragon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:38:06 +0000 From: "Robert Quezada" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: now THIS is DT content!!! More please?? Message-ID: On 25 Jun 96 at 20:35, email_address_removed wrote: In a message dated 96-06-19 15:55:07 EDT: > All in all, it was lots of fun and great to see all the jammers. > We asked John about the Con and he definately knew about it > and said that they should be there. He said they were still > searching for a producer. He said they basically missed the Maybe I missed something over the past few jams. Does this mean that David Prater isn't producing the new album? One could hope.... rq ********************************************* Visit RQ's Software Page at http://www.monmouth.com/~rquezada/home.html RQ's CD Player (for NT/Win95) *Uses special lyric files to view lyrics as they're sung. *Can download these lyric files from internet and use them without special configuration *Divide songs into indices *Example lyric files & instructions on how to make your own ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:48:37 -0400 From: Yutaka OTsuka To: email_address_removed Subject: number-one(not-Riker) (WWW generated email) Message-ID: Hello, jammers. Dream Theater has no counterpart in the world.---Yutaka--- ============================================================= We are all DT-fans. There's no question about that. In fact, if we are deprived of DT, we tend to grow psycotic. ============================================================= ....We are such stuff As dreams are made on.---W.Shakespeare(The Tempest) ============================================================= Kyoto Institute of Technology Yutaka Otsuka ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:38:13 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: My 1st post... Message-ID: Hey all, This is my first post (after reading the last 100 or so Jams and suffering through the whole *Load* thread). So i'd like to introduce myself to all the other Jammers. My name's Tim Caudill, i'm a college student from Pittsburgh, PA, my favorite bands are Dream Theater and Savatage, and i'm an amatuer musician/singer/songwriter. But enuff about me. I just wanted to respond to some themes which seem to be recurring here on the Jam recently. First of all, i have to agree with Grinder when he says: DT and Rainbow on the same bill? I don't think it would work. However, i agree for a different reason. I think it wouldn't work because DT is an up-and-coming, progressive band who's best material is yet to come and who's audience is increasing exponentially. Rainbow, on the other hand, is a band who's best material is FAR behind them and are now reduced to touring and rehashing the past, playing for aging audiences who are just reliving the good ol' days. As far as these two bands touring are concerned, i don't think it would work for this reason: DT has two choices when it come to their next tour. Either (1) tour as an opening act for an established band or (2) as a headliner with another, lesser-known band opening for them. Which one they chose depends on what it is they hope to gain from the tour. If they hope to please their existing fans and play a longer set, then they'll do the latter. However, if they chose the former, then chosing the band they'll open for is of utmost importance. The only reason to choose this avenue is to expose a wider audience to their music and hope to gain some converts. You must ask yourself, then, what type of established and popular band would attract an audience who would also enjoy DT. I don't think this is Rainbow. The type of fans they'd attract are not looking for new music to listen to, they're too busy reliving the past (for the most part, remember, this IS a generalization...if this doesn't apply to you, then nevermind). The only band who would be able to give DT this audience is RUSH. And if DT has to sacrifice some stage time to accomplish this (if this is, in fact, their goal) then it'd be well worth it. They may lose a small few fans who wish they'd been on stage longer, but the fans Rush would pull in would appreciate DT (if they don't already). I think it would create a whole new audience for the boys. They may lose the battle, but i think it'd go a long way in helping them win the war. My point is probably moot anyways, since it ain't gonna happen... But anyways, my other point was that there seems to be a lot of bashing on the Jam recently by those who don't like other's listening tastes. To that i say: i like what i like, you like what you like, but since we both like DT, let's talk about THEM and FUCK the rest. All of this is purely just MHO. Thanks for reading my words, Tim -----------=======================--------- / "I am the way, I am the light, I am the \ / dark inside the night. I hear your hopes, I \ \ feel your dreams, and in the dark I hear / \ your screams." -- Savatage, "Believe" / -----------=======================--------- | email_address_removed | ======================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:50:18 -0700 From: "James P. Garrett" To: email_address_removed Subject: Green day/new to the list Message-ID: Hey Jammers, I've been lurking for a couple of weeks and am relieved to find that this is indeed the Dream Theater list and not the Metallica bitch-box. I'm 29 years old and I finally got my first job out of college; I was an English major in school, so it took me a while to find something that wasn't being a teacher. Not that there is anything wrong with teaching, but in LA the schools are pretty dangerous. So now I sit in front of a computer and listen to DT, Rush, Metallica (even Load), Zappa, and whatever else I'm in the mood for. Far too much about myself. . . Does anybody notice when you listen to Dream Theater that it takes some work? Keeping up with the time changes and the complexity of the music takes a careful ear and some knowledge of music theory. I'm no music guru, but I can identify time signatures, counterpoint, and profound lyrics. This is why DT is not "popular." Green Day is "popular" simply because the vast majority of the public is LAZY! The have been desensitized by TV and MTV to the point that their sub-literate minds cannot comprehend anything more complex than a Green Day or Blind Melon. Sure its great music to dance to ("it has a beat and I can dance to it Dick. I'll give it a 92"), but if you listen to too much of it, it numbs the brain. I could get into a bunch of conspiracy theories about how the dominant class wants to keep the public a bunch of fucking sheep, but now that I actually have a job, I don't feel so angry anymore and don't think that those unethical, bloodsucking politicians who don't have our best interests at heart aren't such bad people after all. At least I can listen to Dream Theater and read the Jam. Always IMO, Moat Builder ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:06:39 -0600 From: Monty Newberry To: email_address_removed Subject: JM bass video Message-ID: Hey all. Somebody a few jams back mentioned a bass instructional video done by our good frien John Myung. Well, how and where could I get this? I am very interested in improving my playing, and cannot really afford formal lessons at the moment, so a good instructional vid I guess is the next best thing (I've got the time and desire. I( just need some sort of direction). From the sound of this vid, it kind of intrigues me. I am VERY interested. Please help. Thanks, guys. You all rule. Dale R. Newberry P.S. I just saw a sort of new band (Fleming & John) the other night. They did this really cool thing where they took the lyrics to "I Got You, Babe," and put them to the tune of "Black Dog." They really pulled it off well, too. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:33:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "C.S. Frankel" To: email_address_removed Subject: An excuse to post - cool :) Message-ID: Was it Dave who asked about the song "Don't Look Past Me"? Well anyway, it's one of the old Majesty songs. I'm not sure exactly when they wrote it, but I really like it. In fact, it's one of my favorite DT songs. There's a John Myung instructional video? Wouldn't he have to...like...talk? @ .. @ /\_/\ (----)^{Alllrrighty then!} ( o.o ) ( >__< ) > - < Charone Frankel "Death is the first dancing turrtellle!!- James LaBrie "Hey man, where's your sense of humor?" -Bart Simpson "Viva El Salvador!"- Jim Carrey <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 12:30:00 DFT From: Wessel Marquering To: "email_address_removed" Subject: Bospop Weert Message-ID: Is anybody of the yammers going to Bospop (Weert, the Netherlands) this year? The following bands will be playing: Maiden, Satriani, Tyketto, Motorhead and Aura. The most interesting act (IMO) will be Aura. They'll be releasing a CD on the Magna Carta label in september and they sound like Dream Theater meets Rush & and Fates Warning. I've heard the advance tape (thanks A.!!!) and it's really sensational stuff!!! Aura will play at 12.00 on Saturday. See you there!!! Does anyone know whether the bill on Friday is interesting? Wessel (Live at the) Marque(e) ring ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:06:56 +0200 From: email_address_removed.ch To: email_address_removed Subject: being there Message-ID: >> I post plenty of positive things also, but those posts are almost >> never quoted....sometimes it seems like it's only when you slip and >> say something stupid around here that anyone bothers to acknowledge a >> post. Of that I've made my tactique. I only post stupid childish things that make you people mad at me. In the process, I'm making an ass out of myself, but at least I get noticed. Ha ha! ........................................................................ D A V E K I N G "If you see a problem where there is none, then the problem is YOU" (dk) "holding on is easier than letting go" (fw) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 07:25:11 -0400 From: Volker Scheunemann To: email_address_removed Subject: asdf (WWW generated email) Message-ID: Hi there, I'm one of the biggest Dream Theater fans in good old Germany and would like to get in contact with some of you guys. Subscribe ytsejam (Volker Scheunemann) ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jun 1996 09:27:41 -0600 From: Steve Mueller To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1644 Message-ID: First of all, does anyone know how Jason Becker is doing? Lastly, I am going to the KISS concert in Milwaukee on August 10. Does anyone have any info on a set list? I'm going with three friends of mine and I get to be Gene. Are there any other DT fans out there who spent every Halloween back in the late 70's dressing up like their favorite KISS member? Back in fourth grade we used to have debates over whether Gene Simmons could take Darth Vader. In my mind, there was never any question... Steve (no matter how hard I try I can't play the solo in Lie) Mueller ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 11:31:47 -24000 From: email_address_removed To: Subject: Beavis & Butthead Message-ID: Has Dream Theater ever been "reviewed" on Beavis and Butthead? If they got a good review, it could send them into platinum status (a la White Zombie). Although, if they get panned (a la Winger) it could be a disaster. Also, has their music appeared anywhere? Either on Soundtrack or Television? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:05:00 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: re: the B&B post (huh huh) Message-ID: someone asked if DT music has ever made an appearance. I was watching some sort of diving thing on a platform that is 150 feet up and the music they were playing was the intro to all the song on I&W. It was about 3 years ago. -yitzik ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1645 **************************