YTSEJAM Digest 1373 Today's Topics: 1) anagrams by email_address_removed 2) Belladonnna by email_address_removed (Scott Cook) 3) Mr. Big Rulz! by Jeffrey Cline 4) Re: DT - Lack of exposure in Europe by borlangw 5) Snare drum sound by email_address_removed.de (Steffen Barabasch) 6) German fan club news by email_address_removed.de (Steffen Barabasch) 7) Mail Item Format Warning by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/27/96 - 21:57:53" 8) Galactic Cowboys by Charone Frankel 9) Thought Industry by email_address_removed (Ryan Good) 10) Under 18 by Daniel McCormack 11) Re: Snare drum sound by "Damon M. Fibraio" 12) Thanks! by Scott Daugherty 13) Joe Satriani Orlando, FL 3/30/96 / Stuart Hamm by Walter S Semerenko 14) Echolyn by andrew miller 15) Review of 4 CT Progressive Bands I Caught Live by email_address_removed 16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1370 by email_address_removed 17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1370 by email_address_removed 18) Stuff by email_address_removed (Sheila Swanson) 19) Metropolis Bass Transcriptions by email_address_removed 20) stuff from the last digest by email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:04:31 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: anagrams Message-ID: >DreamNDay-------> M Dead Yarn > >what do ya think Brian? >--- >Andrew Miller------------------------------------Sub Strange. I think it's definately strange. later--------------Brian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:17:33 -0800 From: email_address_removed (Scott Cook) To: email_address_removed Subject: Belladonnna Message-ID: Has anyone heard Belladonna's cd? When Anthrax fired him they dissed him pretty bad saying he wanted to make Anthrax more like Poison. It is as heavy as the stuff he did with Anthrax? Just curious. Scott Cook ONE MORE DAY TILL MAIDEN AT THE FILLMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:14:26 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey Cline To: email_address_removed Subject: Mr. Big Rulz! Message-ID: For those of you that have talked about the new Mr. Big CD I must say it's great. This is a group of super talented musicians. Each member of this band is well respected as a master in their particular area of excellence. On their new disc entitled "Hey Man" they showed of their musicianship by using time-changes and intricate guitar, bass, and drum work throughout the disc. This band has gotten a label as being a "soft-rock" band because of hits such as "To Be With You" and "Wild World". However, they also know how to jam if you have listened to other songs of theirs not played on the radio. This CD is a must for any fan of hard rock music. JEFF ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:21:57 GMT From: borlangw To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: DT - Lack of exposure in Europe Message-ID: Ali wrote: > Hello hello hello, new to this place but just thought I would answer > an earlier mail about how much exposure DT get in Europe. Quite > frankly, none, nil, zilch. They seem to do OK in mainland Europe (Germany, Italy, etc), but they are ignored here in the UK. > Likelihood of ever hearing them on any radio station is > about as likely as me eating British Beef! I've been eating it for 21 years now, and I still haven't turned into a mad cow. I'll keep trying, though. :-) Incidentally, Clyde 1 FM played the Big Medley from ACOS a few weeks back . . . > Anyway, there are people of taste in the UK, and we're just patiently > waiting for the day when DT decide to don their thermal undies and > pay us a visit (spread the word to them that I make a great cup of > English tea!). I know, it's almost 3 years since I last saw them live :-( Graham B. ____________________________________________________________________________ | | | Graham Borland, email_address_removed.ac.uk, http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~borlangw |:: |____________________________________________________________________________|:: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 22:39:38 +0100 (MEZ) From: email_address_removed.de (Steffen Barabasch) To: email_address_removed (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list) Subject: Snare drum sound Message-ID: Hello! Dave wrote: >Whoa! You mean I'm not the only one that got irritated the first time he >heard that snare on ACOS??? I remember ripping the CD out of the case I asked Mike at the clinic in Leverkusen, Germany two days ago about the drum sound on ACOS, and he said that it was fully intentional. He wanted to make the drums sound REAL. He even didn't care for that buzz and rattling sometimes. Just listen to it as a crisp, precise, and, of course, real snare drum sound. >much. It's actually kind of cool in places, but I definitely like the >AWAKE and I&W snares MUCH better. I personally also like the Awake snare sound better, but hate the IAW trigger sound. John Petrucci said to me that he liked it! I couldn't believe it! Mike does not like it, of course. I heard him play the middle part of Metropolis at the clinic, and it sounds so much better with all the ghost notes on the snare! Steffen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 22:40:34 +0100 (MEZ) From: email_address_removed.de (Steffen Barabasch) To: email_address_removed (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list) Subject: German fan club news Message-ID: Wake up! Hello German 'jammers! As some of you know, the German fan club Dream Head is quite dead. I was trying to contact the Dream Head guys for a while, but never succeeded. Anyway, during the last few days there has been some unexpected development. There is nothing definitely cleared, but be prepared. I hope there will be some new activity soon, so watch out. Hell, am I tired! I went to bed at seven this morning and woke up at half past ten... Bye, Steffen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:58:37 EST From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/27/96 - 21:57:53" To: email_address_removed Subject: Mail Item Format Warning Message-ID: The mail item that you sent at 21:54:54 GMT on 27 Mar 1996 has been delivered. However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL. Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:07:18 -0800 (PST) From: Charone Frankel To: email_address_removed Subject: Galactic Cowboys Message-ID: I don't remember which one of y'all I was talking to about the Galactic Cowboys show in Palo Alto, but I'm definitely going to be there. Also, I just got my CDs from Tim Lodge. Totally fuckin' awesome. <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<* <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<* @ .. @ /\_/\ (----) Charone Frankel ( o.o ) ( >__< ) > - < "Death is the first dancing turrtellle!!!" -James LaBrie "Where's your sense of humor, man?" -Bart Simpson <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<* <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:56:54 -0600 From: email_address_removed (Ryan Good) To: email_address_removed Subject: Thought Industry Message-ID: To the Songs for Insects freak-- Congratulations!! This cd kicks some serious ass. I've had it for almost 4 years, and I just got the chance to see them live. They are, however, going to aim for a less "progressive" sound, and turn more for the modern hard rock new wave type rock. Get their other discs, Mods Carve thee Pig, and the newest one, Outer Space is Just a Martini Away, and you will be able to see the direction they are heading in. I just can't believe you like GWAR!!! "god exists, god is good, god is omnipotent; you can only have 2 of 3, to choose them all you contradict." -TI ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 20:33:22 -0400 From: Daniel McCormack To: email_address_removed Subject: Under 18 Message-ID: > BTW, I'm just wondering, how many other jammers are under 18? I know of only > one (Rip), but I want to know more. > > later--------------Brian Hey, what's up. I'm 16. Anyone else? -DMC- -- Daniel McCormack email_address_removed http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/dan.html "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-" - General John Sedgewick, Union Commander in the Civil War, speaking his last words. "Whad'ya mean I ain't kind? Just not your kind." - Megadeth, Peace Sells...But Who's Buying? ___ ___ ___________________________/ \___________/ \__ / __ ____ __ __ __ __ . / __ __ __ _/_ /\ / /_// / // / / | / / /_ /_/ / / /_/ / / / / /_ / / //__ @ /__ /__/|/ / /__//_ ./ / /_ / / / /_________________________________________________/ / dmc \_________________________________________________\/ 1996 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 19:44:05 EST From: "Damon M. Fibraio" To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Snare drum sound Message-ID: Re: drum sounds I am not a huge fan of drum triggers, but sometimes they really do sound nice. It usually depends on the machine you are triggering sounds from, and the quality of the samples, (that's what triggered drums are, usually). Athough nothing will ever beat naturally miked drums, sometimes triggers can really do neat things to a song. I happen to like the drum sounds on ACOS. But, my favorite drums sounds come off of Rush's Signals album, listen to them really closely. In fact, Enchant, a magna carta band, uses that same drum sound, especially on the toms. They sound so melodic like that. It's awesome. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 20:41:57 EST From: Scott Daugherty To: Kobayashi head-bashing club Subject: Thanks! Message-ID: Hey everybody, This is just a waste of bandwidth to say thank you because I actually enjoyed reading the last couple of jams (I don't know the #'s, I'm in ACK mode) The discussion is good and we're all friends again! A couple of my opinions (more waste of bandwidth): -Shawn Lane rocks (if you're a guitar player, you NEED his stuff. He's also got an instructional video) -I liked the drum sounds on IAW (I'm not a drummer) -My computer's too slow to get the QR cd-rom. :( Another thing, how in the world can you people afford to buy all those CD's? Do you, like, have real jobs or something? Whoa, that would be cool. Love and Chahuahuas, Scott Daugherty (only one of the great Scotts on the jam, Hi S.Cook! I've never mentioned it before, but Hey Pat, we've got the same last name, are we related? If so, then how about giving me some of those CDs that you're always buying! :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:04:44 -0500 (EST) From: Walter S Semerenko To: email_address_removed Subject: Joe Satriani Orlando, FL 3/30/96 / Stuart Hamm Message-ID: Hi jammers, Satriani will be playing at the Embassy Saturday the 30th. I ran into a copy of Stuart Hamm's _The Urge_ for 2 bucks, and I must say it was really worth it. Most of the album is bass dominant rock music. I was really impressed with the bass solo on the album. It's called "Quahogs Anyone?" It starts starts off slow, then breaks into the Peanuts theme song, then into a countryish tune that sounds like a banjo player using a bass guitar instead of a banjo! Can't wait to hear Stu in concert... Walter. ------------------------------ Date: Wed Mar 27 20:06:02 1996 From: andrew miller To: email_address_removed Subject: Echolyn Message-ID: Hey! there's been posts in the past about Echolyn. if someone has info on their new album that's to be released, i'd appreciate hearing it. i'm also looking for dubs for their albums prior to As The World. please contact me if anyone can help. thanx. --- Andrew Miller------------------------------------SubtleRage "these visions keep clouding my perceptions of time as the day fast forwards into another episode of darkness" email_address_removed@act.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:53:03 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@ax.com, metropolis@arastar.com, durnik@indirect.com, Subject: Review of 4 CT Progressive Bands I Caught Live Message-ID: Hello All. WOW! I knew of some Progressive bands in CT, but it didn't hit me untill I attended this show that there are some INCREDIBLE PROGRESSIVE BANDS IN LITTLE OLD CONNECTICUT! Even though the monitors on stage did not work properly the bands were all tight as HELL and performed flawlessly. Now lets start with the start shall we? 1) MISCONCEPTION - Picture this you are the singer/ guitar player of a Prog band and you are at sound check. You walk up to the mic while you are playing and begin to sing. As soon as you put your face near the mic you are hit by a barrage of electric shocks. What is the first thing you do? You tell the sound guy so he can fix this little problem, right? Well what if the response is, "just tell him not to play when he is singing"? You guessed it folks you grin and bear it and recieve electric shock therepy for the sake of the fans in the audience. This is exactly what Seth did! And let me tell you he sounded great especially with the harmony vocals. I have watched and listened to these guys progress since they put out their first tape. I used to have them down to WNHU for interviews on my Progressive show. Most of the songs are 10 min. or so and hold your attention throughout without getting boring. Ok, now, recorded material they have two demos plus a Full CD coming soon. When I get info on ordering I will let you know. 2) SOUNDSCAPE - You may have already heard about these guys. They released a 2 CD rock opera "America the Beautiful" last year. They are about to release a new disc "Discovery" and let me tell you it will blow you away! It is over 78 min. long and the tracks I have heard are just incredible. The singer/ Keyboard player has a very emotional theatric stage presence and is Mr. Range as far as vocal ability. The drummer sets his kit up SIDE WAYS! He is Mr. Finesse and I kid you not when I say he ranks right up there with one Mr. Portnoy. If you would like to find out more about this band check out this Home Page from Angel Thorne Music: http://www.e1.com/ATM/ATM.html At this point I don't think they have samples from "Discovery" but they do have some from the rock opera "America the Beautiful" which is a beautiful piece about the life of M. Monroe. 3) ALTER EGO - This band is on the heavier side of Prog and was quite good. I am afraid I don't have any info on them as far as recorded material but will post again when I do and review what I get. 4) IMAGE BEYOND - This is FATES WARNING's original drummer STEVE ZIMMERMAN's band. Need I say more? Ok probably not but I will! This man is incredible and also incredible is his ability to choose musicians to perform with. This band has all the energy and power of pre-moody Fates and I had the chills throughout their show. As far as recorded material, I ran into John Arch at the show and he has gracefully agreed to get ahold of what he can from Steve so keep your fingers crossed! What ever I can get my hands on I will review and if there is a way to order such items I will be sure to supply all with that info. Bottom Line, if you see a show with any of these bands listed GO!!!! I am hoping to make a cheesy little web site with my free 2Meg page from AOL and upload sound samples when I get some recorded material. To serve and to PROGRESS James Arin Colberg email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:54:32 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1370 Message-ID: In a message dated 96-03-26 22:51:37 EST, you write: >BTW, I'm just wondering, how many other jammers are under 18? I know of only >one (Rip), but I want to know more. I'm a fellow Ytse-jammer of 17 years. I got into DT because of all the DT posts on the QR newsgroup. QR, BTW, I've been following since I was 12! (My sister influenced me!) Bogie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:54:43 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1370 Message-ID: <960327215441_179809837@mail04> In a message dated 96-03-26 22:51:37 EST, you write: > Where is this from? It sounds like something I would >hear on Comedy Centeral at three in the morning. Hey, It would cure my >insomnia. Close...it's actually taken from a broadcast of Late Night with Conan O'Brien. Bogie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:03:18 -0700 From: email_address_removed (Sheila Swanson) To: email_address_removed Subject: Stuff Message-ID: How's it going!?! I am 15 years old. Just said that for whoever asked who was under 18. I have determined that anyone who stayed home to watch MTV spring break is a loser, and The Grind is the worst show on TV, period. About Rush and the Hall of Fame - I heard from my guitar teacher that Rush is the overall most sucessful band in the world, as far as total album sales. He says this is due to the fact that they have a steady fan base, they never quit, and they release a lot of albums. Can anyone justify this? About the library. I have been screwed over by friends when I have lent CD's out and I have become very stingy about lending my CD's. There really has to be something in it for me to convince me. To whoever complained about the immaturity on this list, try the White Zombie list. They never talk about the band and I have never seen the word Fuck used more in one sentence in my life. Language doesn't bother me at all, but there is a point where you quit sounding cool and start sounding pretentious. This list is a breath of fresh air. At least we try to talk about the band. DTC: Just a little anecdote. When my band played this Sunday, our drummer found an ugly old vest in his basement and wrote Space-Dye Vest on it and wore it live. He showed it to people all night and got many looks of confusion. Not one person outside of the band got it. Inside jokes rule. Later, Cory ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 22:45:07 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Metropolis Bass Transcriptions Message-ID: Hello Ytsejammers! I remember seeing the bass transcription to Metropolis Pt.1 in some magazine. I can not find it over the internet. Does anyone (I would really appreciate this) know of the Magazine and the issue that this appears on? Daus Studenberg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 19:53:29 PST From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) To: email_address_removed Subject: stuff from the last digest Message-ID: <9603280353.AA00492@tengs1> > > From: Andrew Bunk > Subject: See ya! > > I'd just like to say that I'm tired of weeding through all this immature > nonsense on the jam. No one told him about Metropolis. Oh well... F 'em if he can't take a... > From: Pat Daugherty > Subject: Carpe Diem > > I went to the post office to see about an internatinal money order so I > could pay for the Carpe Diem boot. Well, it turns out that from the post > office international money orders are a pain in the ass and cost 7.50. > You have to send the money order to St Louis where they convert it and > send it along. > > I'd advise anyone to just send the money to Mike Bahr and let him deal > with it. Mike, is there some secret? If there is one. > From: "Dr. Teeth" > Subject: Various impressions of cool-ass albums... > > I've been meaning to give some impressions of some albums I've boughten > recently, so here goes: Cool. Now, after I pay taxes and Mike B., perhaps I'll pick some of hese up. Here in the Bay Area, the CD Warehouse (independent store in Sunnyvale) added a "Progressive Rock" section. It's about time! I haven't been there since I moved farther away though. > > From: email_address_removed (RipZero ) > Subject: Rhoads, Wankers, Mags, and other sensless garbage,,, the usual > > >What Ever Happened to Music Videos? > > when i was checkin' out all these old guitar mags i almost flipped. > They're incredible! real guitarists on every page, tons of great > techniques and the parts at the beginning of the magazine where people > write in were about things like Nuno vs. Satch! Its great! what ever > happened?! Now its full of alternative bands interviews because theres > nothing for them to offer musically, and when they do try its just how > to finger power chords like they do or stuff like that. Dont get me > wrong here, alot of you like Alternative type music and thats fine, but > i dont think they need to be in all these guitar magazines so much. > They transcibe things like Greenday songs which is a big waste > considering anyone should be able to figure them out and as for > beginner guitarists, they should be able to find SOMEONE who can show > them, ug. Oh well, readin all these old mags sure is fun anyways, > remember how Mtv used to be? I came across the Grind the other day, > which is a show where people dance and thats about it, and just kinda > thought if the kids from 10 years ago could see this what would they > think? It's pretty damn sad. And VH1 was only decent for a few years (of course, I've never had cable (hell, I watch MASH reruns when I get home from work at 11:30 on a 4" screen)), but I only see the music channels occaisionally at other people's houses. I was in Houston in ~ '85 and they started up a new *local* music channel (5) that had videos 24 hrs/day. After 2 weeks, the only sponser they could get was Marine World. Needless to say, I don't think it survived for long (I was only there 2.5 weeks). That's okay, you can only play Pat Benetar and Dead or Alive videos so many times before dudes start to riot. You know, Though I cringe at the clothing styles (like when I see repeats of _My Bodygard_ late at night or the "Subdivisions" vid.), the 80s were pretty bitchen. > > From: Jason Breitweg > Subject: Fates Warning T-shirts!!! > > Hi All, > > I saw this on Usenet the other day and thought I would post it here: > > > Hey all. I'm considering the idea of putting together a FW > > t-shirt, and wanted to see if there was enough interest. Heck yeah! I'm still pissed I didn't pick one up when I saw them in SFO (I ran out of money buying DT merchandise and 'drivers) > > > > We'll need 50 to make the order work, so if you're interested, > > email me and let me put your name on the pre-order list. Oh. oops > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > I M A G E S A N D W O R D S > > Internet Presence for Printing Professionals > > email: email_address_removed > > http://www.win.net/images > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > For God's sake please don't respond to me about this, write to the guy > above. double-oops. > I think FW shirts would be cool since probably a lot of us > have never seen them on tour and don't have shirts. [burys head in sand] > > From: email_address_removed > Subject: Space Dye vest > > >DTC: On Space-Dye Vest there is a soundbite that goes like this. "In > >houston or something they say that it's 180 degrees but it's a dry heat. In > >Houston they say that? Come on, they're all messed up. Why would they have > >the swimming pools?" Where is this from? It sounds like something I would > >hear on Comedy Centeral at three in the morning. Hey, It would cure my > >insomnia. > > Wow. Now I know I've been a jammer for a while cuz _I _ remember this thread. > First of all, I believe we established it to be "Dry until they hit the > swimming pool", and second it's from Conan O Brien. "Oh, maybye not, I'm all mixed up." and "It's dry feeling at the swimming pool." That *could* be Conan, but none of the voices is Andy (I watch the stupid show almost every night). I _still_ think it's from _Biloxi Blues_, but no one ever agrees with me, so I'm probably wrong--- yet *again* !>(> Zach ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1373 **************************