YTSEJAM Digest 1367 Today's Topics: 1) Mail Item Format Warning by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/25/96 - 14:57:30" 2) Guitar or Bass? by email_address_removed 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1366 by email_address_removed (Scheponik, Paul) 4) MAG ADS by Dave 5) John Myung... by Bryce Bukowsky 6) Pull Me Under/ Hamlet by Charone Frankel 7) RE Spellings... by Pat Griffin 8) Ytse-Con III by email_address_removed 9) CD clubs/BMG by Pat Daugherty 10) Re: join list by duck 11) WDATU by email_address_removed (Ernesto Schnack) 12) barfbag by email_address_removed (Ernesto Schnack) 13) Spelling, cont... by Pat Griffin 14) Steve Morse by borlangw 15) Re: MAG ADS by Gilbert Thetgyi 16) DT Icon by Daniel McCormack 17) CoM-Ple_xi+ty noncomplexity by Ben Laussade 18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1366 by Ben Laussade 19) UaGM by email_address_removed 20) Wankers by email_address_removed 21) Coolio? by email_address_removed 22) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1366 by Chad ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:58:27 EST From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/25/96 - 14:57:30" To: email_address_removed Subject: Mail Item Format Warning Message-ID: The mail item that you sent at 14:57:26 GMT on 25 Mar 1996 has been delivered. However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL. Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 12:42:06 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Guitar or Bass? Message-ID: All right, this is my last post on this subject, except maybe later to thank everyone for their help. First, my "name" is Feyd, with a 'Y' not a 'W', Ikkleswick. My real name is Mark, Feyd is Sting's character in the movie Dune. Next, I'm not too concerned what technique is for what instrument... By studying what classical guitarists do, I want to learn a new approach to playing bass. They're on to something, I'm sure, and it can probably be modified for use on bass. Back to the woodshed for me... Anyone have a good way of telling whether my bass neck is warped, which way, and which direction I should turn the truss rod to fix it? My bass tends to go into an upbow...and it's buzzing like crazy. Feyd ------------------------------ Date: 25 Mar 96 10:56:57 EST From: email_address_removed (Scheponik, Paul) To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1366 Message-ID: <92C1563101A72C79@-SMF-> I HAVE TRIED LIKE HELL TO "UNSUBSCRIBE" FROM THIS GROUP THAT I WAS ERRINGLY PUT ON AS THE RESULT OF AN EMAIL CHANGE MADE BY MY COMPANY. WILL SOMEONE PLEASE GET ME THE HELL OFF OF THE MAIL LIST!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 11:06:11 -0800 From: Dave To: email_address_removed Subject: MAG ADS Message-ID: Can we PLEASE find a way to squelch those stupid, cheezy, unwanted, hassle to order, gimmick, scams of a magazine ad that keeps getting placed here by morons??? Mass Email JUNK mailing on the internet is somewhat forbidden, and many servers have strict rules against it. If someone out there is an expert on tracking the origination of the posts from Lucy and her friends, please help. I would LOVE to get them banned from net all together:) (to those of you who may consider that too harsh, think about where they are posting their propaganda. I didn't subscribe to Ytsejam to recieve the same unwanted crap that I find in my snail mailbox when I get home from work everyday) I apologize to the genuine Jammers/readers here for taking up space, but I want to find I way to track these idiots down! I'm pissed! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:52:56 -0600 (CST) From: Bryce Bukowsky To: email_address_removed Subject: John Myung... Message-ID: I am posting in regard to the John Myung question. I do agree w/ the recent post that when they say he's using his fingers and NOT a pick. A bass is not meant to be played w/ a pick! I also agree in that he uses his index and middle fingers the most and he also uses the ring finger every once in a while. The point of using the ring finger would be in playing triplets. It's pretty hard to using in any other situation because when you use three fingers you almost have to play some pattern in a triple duple. I think you should be able to play fast enough w/ just two fingers. The thumb should not be used. The only times the thumb should be used is if you were playing a chord(which doesn't occur on a bass too often, except when Myung uses it in TTT). Well, that's my opinion, I hope some other bass players will give their feedback on the subject as well. Bryce Bukowsky ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:25:23 -0800 (PST) From: Charone Frankel To: email_address_removed Subject: Pull Me Under/ Hamlet Message-ID: Aw, what the hell- I have nothing better to do. Yes, Dale. Pull Me Under WAS inspired by Hamlet, and the amazing coincidence you were talking about is probably the line from the play that James sings at the end. Check out the FAQ at the DT we page for more info. Didn't we just finish this thread? <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<* <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<* @ .. @ /\_/\ (----) Charone Frankel ( o.o ) ( >__< ) > - < "Death is the first dancing turrtellle!!!" -James LaBrie "Where's your sense of humor, man?" -Bart Simpson <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<* <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 12:17:41 -0600 (CST) From: Pat Griffin To: ThE NuGgeTjAm Subject: RE Spellings... Message-ID: >y'know, this is really starting to annoy me. Other countries spell >things differently, like theatre, certre, favour, etc. So what if they >spell the name Dream TheatRE, that doesn't mean they like the band any >less. > >Scott Cook I agree with you on the matter on general, if they want to call theater theatre, let them. I have been in acting for several years now, and even though I'm American, it was always theatre to us. However, we aren't talking about theatre in general here, we are talking about Dream Theater. They have been very insistant that it should be spelled ER, not RE, and we owe them that much for all the great music they have given us. Dream Theater is not a noun, it's a *proper* noun. It's the name of a band, and it has a specific spelling, no matter what country you hail from. It's the same reason we call you "Scott" and not "scott." Proper nouns have a proper spelling, and it doesn't stop at captialization. They want to be Dream Theater. They *are* Dream Theater. h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 / | Pat Griffin Reality2 Design | | email_address_removed email_address_removed | h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 / ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 13:21:56 PST From: email_address_removed To: Ytsejam Subject: Ytse-Con III Message-ID: Where exactly is Ytse-Con III going to be held and are there any approximate dates. I would like to go if it is close to me and I can afford it. Also, who do I have to get in touch with to tell whether I am going or not. I remember seeing something about it on the jam awhile ago but I forget. Ben told me it was in NY but I would like an exact location. Is it in NY state or NY city. If it is in NY state where is this going to be held. Also if anyone knows of an exact place where this will be held that would be appreciated also. Thankyou for your time. Robert Barker(Ibanez) ------------------------------------- Name: Barker E-mail: email_address_removed Date: 3/25/96 Time: 1:21:56 PM ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:44:33 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Daugherty To: Dream Theater Mailing List Subject: CD clubs/BMG Message-ID: On the topic of that guy whou CD HQ screwed over. The people at BMG must be idiots... So I send in a signup to BMG. 3-4 weeks later I get this letter listing my selections that they do have in and saying that since so many of my selections that were not available I had to rechoose some. No problem, right? Well I look at my selections that they do have in and there is some cd called Tony Tonie Tone-Who? I am like what the hell is that? So I look at what I had really selected and it should have been Rush-Hemisperes, they got 2 numbers mixed up. The letter says to just write on the letter my new selections. So I do and I also write on the letter that they mixed up the number of the Rush cd. Well on Friday, my cds come and low and behold: thje Tony Tonie Tone cd is there instead of Rush. what a bunch of idiots. Also 2 cds that I rechose weren't there and there was no mention that it was a partial order. I am hoping that the other two come or else my nasty letter will become really nasty... **** Pat Daugherty email_address_removed **** **** "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater **** **** "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files **** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:41:16 -0800 (PST) From: duck To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: join list Message-ID: On Thu, 21 Mar 1996, duck wrote: > Please add me to the Dream theater list > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:53:34 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Ernesto Schnack) To: email_address_removed Subject: WDATU Message-ID: YESS! I finally got it... great job Mike...MTFBWY... I found out what the problem was w/ SS... it's slowed down...the song starts out in G, but in WDATU it's in F#...solution? I dubbed it to a tape and played it on my 4-track, tuning it to G w/ my 4-track...WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!! anybody who has the equipment to do this, try it... you'l be surprised... TOWHTSTS rules... to bad JL forgot the second pre-chorus... |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| |This message brought to you by Ernie: | | the only Panamanian Ytse-jammer- | | - or so the Germans would have us believe... | |===========================================================================| |Bert's out by the pool shooting pigeons {Ernesto Schnack ernie@.pananet.com} |===========================================================================| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:53:43 -0400 From: email_address_removed (Ernesto Schnack) To: email_address_removed Subject: barfbag Message-ID: Yesterday I learned barfbag on guitar, from LiT... and then I looked at an old GW column where JP transcribed some parts of that song, to see if I had figured it out right, and guess what? those lines aren't anywhere on the song... could it be that what me thinks is barfbag really isn't? also, on the column, it's in C, and in LiT it's in B...but I don't think that matters because he could've easily transposed it to fit in the TLF-AFiL transition (TLF's in B and AFiL starts in it) Anybody have bootlegs where he plays barfbag? is it just that he's changed a lot throughout time?? |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| |This message brought to you by Ernie: | | the only Panamanian Ytse-jammer- | | - or so the Germans would have us believe... | |===========================================================================| |Bert's out by the pool shooting pigeons {Ernesto Schnack ernie@.pananet.com} |===========================================================================| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:55:19 -0600 (CST) From: Pat Griffin To: ThE NuGgeTjAm Subject: Spelling, cont... Message-ID: I just wanted to add that there are "regal" spellings for a lot of words, but I don't think you're going to see anyone in England buying an "Arse Ponies" CD any time soon. h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 / | Pat Griffin Reality2 Design | | email_address_removed email_address_removed | h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 / ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 20:23:04 GMT From: borlangw To: email_address_removed Subject: Steve Morse Message-ID: After hearing lots of great words about Steve Morse on the 'jam, I went out and bought his "Structural Damage" CD. I love it! Thanks to everyone who recommended this wonderful man . . . Graham B. ____________________________________________________________________________ | | | Graham Borland, email_address_removed.ac.uk, http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~borlangw |:: |____________________________________________________________________________|:: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------ Date: 25 Mar 96 15:59:18 EST From: Gilbert Thetgyi To: dt Subject: Re: MAG ADS Message-ID: >Can we PLEASE find a way to squelch those stupid, cheezy, unwanted, hassle to >order, gimmick, scams of a magazine ad that keeps getting placed here by >morons??? Mass Email JUNK mailing on the internet is somewhat forbidden, and >many servers have strict rules against it. If someone out there is an expert >on tracking the origination of the posts from Lucy and her friends, please >help. I would LOVE to get them banned from net all together:) (to those of >you who may consider that too harsh, think about where they are posting their >propaganda. I didn't subscribe to Ytsejam to recieve the same unwanted crap >that I find in my snail mailbox when I get home from work everyday) > >I apologize to the genuine Jammers/readers here for taking up space, but I >want to find I way to track these idiots down! I'm pissed! I'm irked by these ads too. But, it in the "Welcome To Ytsejam" message, it says: Welcome to YTSEJAM, the Dream Theater mailing list! This list is for fans of Dream Theater, and will discuss them and any related topics. The magazine poster (as in one who posts) could say that they carry Guitar World. Guitar World, as we all know by now, has a column by John Petrucci. Thus, there is DT content, albeit indirectly. I'm not saying that I approve of these ads, I'm just showing a possible argument. I'd rather see TIE Fighters, mutant chickens, warrior knights, and funny people in mirrors than some magazine ads. And I was against the sig. wars! Another point of interest, also in the "Welcome To Ytsejam" message: AUTOMATIC UNSUBSCRIPTION ------------------------ I will unsubscribe you if one of the following happens: 1) I get "User Unknown" or other bounces from your site for 3 consecutive days 2) You receive a warning and ignore it. You'll receive a warning if you spam the list with an unrelated ad (Olga, incense sticks, etc). You'll not receive one for posting ads for stuff related to the list (albums, etc). So, if the powers that be (Skadz) deem this an "unrelated ad", the problem should take care of itself. If the magazine poster isn't subscribed to the 'Jam though, I guess there's nothing we can do unless the list became moderated again. Sincerely, G. Jack Thetgyi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:06:37 -0400 From: Daniel McCormack To: YtseJam ML Subject: DT Icon Message-ID: Hey, everyone. I created a DT icon of the Majesty Logo. It came out pretty cool, looks exactly like the one on the I&W CD, and I just wanted to check if anyone wanted me to send it to them UUEncoded. It's the standard 766 bytes. E-mail me personally (email_address_removed) if you want a copy. Later, -DMC- -- Daniel McCormack email_address_removed http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/dan.html "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-" - General John Sedgewick, Union Commander in the Civil War, speaking his last words. "Whad'ya mean I ain't kind? Just not your kind." - Megadeth, Peace Sells...But Who's Buying? ___ ___ ___________________________/ \___________/ \__ / __ ____ __ __ __ __ . / __ __ __ _/_ /\ / /_// / // / / | / / /_ /_/ / / /_/ / / / / /_ / / //__ @ /__ /__/|/ / /__//_ ./ / /_ / / / /_________________________________________________/ / dmc \_________________________________________________\/ 1996 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 15:11:30 -0700 From: Ben Laussade To: email_address_removed Subject: CoM-Ple_xi+ty noncomplexity Message-ID: >They are one of the few Progressive Metal bands >(yes they are Progressive-check out anything from Rust in Peace), to have >broken in platinum popularity status while still making complex music. >(Yes, I know Youthanasis is not as complex as Rust..., but the music is >still more complex than many Fates Warning or even Savatage songs.) Do you only like bands because they are complex? I have a question. I think it will be interesting to see the answers. What is Music? Ben Laussade Favorite Song of the Week: Amish Paradise ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 15:16:33 -0700 From: Ben Laussade To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1366 Message-ID: > y'know, this is really starting to annoy me. Other countries spell >things differently, like theatre, certre, favour, etc. So what if they >spell the name Dream TheatRE, that doesn't mean they like the band any >less. I know you're a young guy Ben; but you could be a little less >confrontational when correcting people. Just my opinion, I could be >wrong. > Did I insult anyone in any way? No...unless the person who misspelled it is sensitive to that kind of thing....in that case, I apologize. And don't start picking on me because I'm younger, okay? That just pisses me off. Ben Laussade Favorite Song of the Week: Amish Paradise ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:43:06 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: UaGM Message-ID: Hey, you guys miss me? I've just gotten back from possibly the best weekend of my life so far, and it involved absolutley no drugs or alchohol! :o Anyway, I'm so proud of myself. I finally have the timing down pat for the begining part of the instrumental part of UaGM. Happy happy joy Joy! later--------------Brian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:26:34 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Wankers Message-ID: >>What the hell is wrong with you people?!?!?!?!!? Why are all the Metal bands >>being refered to as Wankers? It sounds like some redneck term that I'd hear >>in ARKVILLE!!!!!I know this is your opinion, and this is my opinion...YOUR >>OPINION SUCKS!!!! :) Have a nice day. Thank you, drive through. >> >>Brian > >Listen you imbecile, don't do what Matt did and put words in my mouth. I didn't >refer to _all_ metal bands as wankers, just Megadeth. I once referred to >Pantera as a bunch of wankers, much to RipZero's dismay. So, I stopped >referring to Pantera as wankers out of courtesy. If you had read one of my >previous messages about this matter, you would know that I like some metal >bands. Megadeth is not one of them. Any band that refers to one of my favorite >band's music (Queensryche) as "music for pussies" does not deserve my attention, >time, or even bandwith for that matter, even if it's their opinion. So, I think >your opinion of my opinion SUCKS! Now YOU listen here you fucknut. I never said that you said all metal bands are wankers. I wanted to know why that is your term for all the metal bands you don't like. And so what if they don't like Queensr˙che (Hi Rip, thanx!). I like R˙che too. Just because they called them music for pussies means they're wankers? i think not. I think Scott Cook will back me up on this one. >Now chill out and go post 47 messages in a >row. Eh he he he. Good one, ass wipe. I'd really do that, but I don't want to piss of the jammers in ACK. later--------------Brian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:26:19 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Coolio? Message-ID: >Favorite Song of the Week: Amish Paradise Anyone wanna write the lyrix to this song? later--------------Brian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:12:33 -0600 (CST) From: Chad To: email_address_removed Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1366 Message-ID: Replying to numerous messages to conserve time/space/bandwidth. > As to Megadeth touring with DT I would love it! Megadeth has a > habit of touring with great up and coming bands (ie Stone Temple Pilots, Quick reality check...DT is not an up-and-coming band. They have a major record deal, have recorded four albums, and have gone platinum on two of them in Japan. When STP played with Megadeth opening, the only song which I had ever heard from the album was "Sex Type Thing," and only then because it was getting airtime on MTV, not local radio. -------- > y'know, this is really starting to annoy me. Other countries spell > things differently, like theatre, certre, favour, etc. So what if they > spell the name Dream TheatRE, that doesn't mean they like the band any > less. I know you're a young guy Ben; but you could be a little less > confrontational when correcting people. Just my opinion, I could be > wrong. > Scottie Cook Yes, you actually ARE wrong. What if your employer spelled your name Scotty Cooke on your W-2 form, the IRS never got the information of your wages, and they hunted you down and SHOT you? (OK, a little exaggerated, but you get the point) Dream Theater is a proper noun (the specific name of a specific person, place, or thing), and just because those in Western Europe spell your name Scotty Cooke doesn't make it right. ---------- > I have a question. Was "Pull Me Under" inspired by Hamlet? If > it wasn't at all, there is an amazing coincidence. I'll elaborate when > I have more time. God bless. > > Dale R. Newberry Right on! For more info., check the FAQ. Chad Klunck (Raytheon to IRC) .............................................................................. . I'll always remember : "Seize the Day" . . The chill of November : I heard him say . . The news of the fall : Life will not always be this way . . The sounds in the hall : Look around . . The clock on the wall ticking away : Hear the sounds . . : Cherish your life while you're . . : still around . . - Dream Theater . .............................................................................. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1367 **************************